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Old 06-20-2011, 09:07 AM   #271
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Sounds like you're off to a great start already. Way to go!

I'm telling you, the longer I read around LCF, the more it's confirmed that one size doesn NOT fit all, and that folks are wisest to find out how they WANT to do it. On my DDs, it works best for me to eat about 5 little meals, each about 100 calories, give or take a few. So my plan is for about 500 cals a day. And if I go over, Oh.. Well.. It's still a wonderful low-calorie Down Day. And sometimes I end up being under too, so it's all good.

And if someone needs to do their calorie cycling plan with Down Days in the 800-900 calorie range, most folks would consider that to still be really, really low in calories. I'll bet you will do very well. Good luck with your six little meals. Be sure to let us know how that works for you.

(And tell what you eat! LOL That is one of the best ways I get inspiration for things I think would make this JUDDD plan both interesting and fulfilling as well as effective! And if you can post photos, that's even better! ) Food Porn is a beautiful thing.

What calorie range will your UDs be? I make certain that mine are fairly high, else I've found my metabolism wants to slow down. If I keep the one day low, but the next one is high, apparently my metabolism doesn't get the idea that *food is scarce and every day is pretty low.. time to slow down*. I don't know if that is just me or not. Whenever I've tried to diet in the more traditional way of lowering calories every single day for weight loss, I've also seemed to trigger this metabolism slow-down response. But this might be one of those YMMV things too.

Looking forward to your great and ongoing success!
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Good morning, ladies. Although I know you're not supposed to weigh after an Up Day, I did anyway, just for curiosity's sake. You guess it--right back up the pound and a half! Ha! No worries, though. I remember from last time that there's lots of ups and downs to JUDDD.

Today I intend to follow exactly the same DD plan as I did Saturday. I felt full enough and enjoyed the food, and I still have all the same foods left, so that'll make it easy.

Every Monday, i take my 25 yr old daughter out to lunch (she works at a university in the next "town" over from me, if you can call the massive sprawl of Orange County separate towns!) I already warned her I'm JUDDDing again, and that today happens to be a Down Day, so I'll be ordering a side salad, no dressing. It's a gorgeous day here, and I hope we can sit outside somewhere and I can enjoy the blue sky and the company.

At age 54 and a lifetime of dieting, I'm not bothered at all by not eating much while those around me feast, so it's all good.

Wishing everyone a great Monday--will check in later!
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Here's a picture I took the other day of one of my variations of a DD Ouizoid Superlow-cal muffin. SoHappy you would probably hate this, because there are several different As's in it lol. Warning - it is nothing like a regular muffin, but for me does the trick since I have a crazy appetite and cannot let myself ever get hungry. The muffin is huge, has under 50 calories, and sits like lead in you stomach for hours, so keeps you full, and since it is almost all fiber it cleans you out the next day



Lemon Superlow-Cal Muffin

1/4 cup oat fiber - 0 cals
1 tsp gluc powder - 0 cals
1 tbs SF vanilla or lemon pudding mix - 5 cals
1/2 tsp SF lemon jello mix - 5 cals
1/2 tsp baking powder - 5 cals
1/4 cup egg white liquid (or could use 2 egg whites) - 25 cals
2 or 3 tbs SF Torani lemon syrup - 0 cals
A drop of Splenda if you like it really sweet
A little bit of water if needed

Mix dry ingredients together until well blended, then add egg white and syrup and stir until moist. (I do all of this in one big cappucino mug) If you are still seeing dry powder, you can add a few splashes of water as needed. Microwave on high for 1 minute to get a "cookie dough" like texture (which is how I like it), or a few seconds longer for a dryer muffin. Warning, it does get pretty dry if you leave it in the micro too long. It puffs up some while cooking but doesn't raise really high. It's dense and filling which is perfect for me, but probably not to everyone's taste.
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Good morning, ladies. Although I know you're not supposed to weigh after an Up Day, I did anyway, just for curiosity's sake. You guess it--right back up the pound and a half! Ha! No worries, though. I remember from last time that there's lots of ups and downs to JUDDD.

Today I intend to follow exactly the same DD plan as I did Saturday. I felt full enough and enjoyed the food, and I still have all the same foods left, so that'll make it easy.

Every Monday, i take my 25 yr old daughter out to lunch (she works at a university in the next "town" over from me, if you can call the massive sprawl of Orange County separate towns!) I already warned her I'm JUDDDing again, and that today happens to be a Down Day, so I'll be ordering a side salad, no dressing. It's a gorgeous day here, and I hope we can sit outside somewhere and I can enjoy the blue sky and the company.

At age 54 and a lifetime of dieting, I'm not bothered at all by not eating much while those around me feast, so it's all good.

Wishing everyone a great Monday--will check in later!
Have a fun luncheon out with your DD, Jessica. That's such a nice little tradition you two have developed. Fun to be Mother/Daughter friends, and lunch together is a fun way to get caught up with each others news.

LOL that you're back up after the UD, but that usually happens to me too. Although there are those mornings that I'm down after the preceeding UD, so who can guess what that scale is going to reveal.

I weigh every single morning and record it on my calendar. I don't care whether the weight is up or down, just as long as the week doesn't end on an upward weight trend, and it almost always ends a bit less than the last week ended. I like to get an average of what my weight was at the end of each week too. Fun to add up the days as they bounced a bit up and a bit down, and then divide by the seven and see my average weight of the week. That's fun to track as the weekly average is a little bit less week after week. (Usually.)

That has always helped me stay the course during the periods of time I have been in maintenance as I've gone along. I'm awfully slow at this... lose a little, maintain for awhile, lose a little more, maintain for awhile longer..

Wishing you a great day!
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Here's a picture I took the other day of one of my variations of a DD Ouizoid Superlow-cal muffin. SoHappy you would probably hate this, because there are several different As's in it lol. Warning - it is nothing like a regular muffin, but for me does the trick since I have a crazy appetite and cannot let myself ever get hungry. The muffin is huge, has under 50 calories, and sits like lead in you stomach for hours, so keeps you full, and since it is almost all fiber it cleans you out the next day



Lemon Superlow-Cal Muffin

1/4 cup oat fiber - 0 cals
1 tsp gluc powder - 0 cals
1 tbs SF vanilla or lemon pudding mix - 5 cals
1/2 tsp SF lemon jello mix - 5 cals
1/2 tsp baking powder - 5 cals
1/4 cup egg white liquid (or could use 2 egg whites) - 25 cals
2 or 3 tbs SF Torani lemon syrup - 0 cals
A drop of Splenda if you like it really sweet
A little bit of water if needed

Mix dry ingredients together until well blended, then add egg white and syrup and stir until moist. (I do all of this in one big cappucino mug) If you are still seeing dry powder, you can add a few splashes of water as needed. Microwave on high for 1 minute to get a "cookie dough" like texture (which is how I like it), or a few seconds longer for a dryer muffin. Warning, it does get pretty dry if you leave it in the micro too long. It puffs up some while cooking but doesn't raise really high. It's dense and filling which is perfect for me, but probably not to everyone's taste.
No, no... I would probably adore this! I'm not wild about Splenda, but it's one I can actually include and tolerate pretty well, flavor-wise. I AM SO GOING TO MAKE ONE OF THESE. I've never made a *muffin* before. I do eat the little 80-calorie yogurts that are sweetened with Splenda.

Now I just have to buy some oat fiber. Am I looking for the stuff that is labeled Oat Bran?

And I'm thinking s/f chocolate pudding as well as this lemon. LOL I'm pumped! Would this be a good thing to treat myself to as a dessert on a DD?

Loved seeing the photo! It looks so good.

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SoHappy - the variations on this can be endless. I was never able to find oat FIBER locally - I have to order it. It is a very white fine powder, looks very much like regular white flour. The oat bran is nothing like it. I ordered mine from Netrition.

Ouisue's original was a chocolate one that uses Hershey's Special Dark cocoa powder (the lowest cal cocoa out there, I believe), and it's somewhere here on the site. I like that one, too. Lately I've been on a lemon kick.

You may not even need any added Splenda, if the SF puddings and syrup make it sweet enough for you.

You could certainly dress it up with thickened SF syrups and sauces to make it dessert-ish! Ouisue did have some type of FF cream cheese (I think) concoction that she was using on top of hers....darn, I'll have to try to remember where all the discussion was about it.

One of my other fave versions is to use the SF Alpine Cider mix, and some grated daikon radish to make an "apple" muffin.

I almost always eat this in the a.m. and it keeps me full for hours, but sometimes if I'm having a white-knuckle DD, I'll make up one in the evening to get me through.
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Okay, found it! (I never did use the erythritol or hershey's syrup in mine. Would probably be way more decadent with those!)

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ALERT. Please do not read if you have an objection to Frankenfoods. I, for various reasons, have to keep things super LC/LF and so I often depend on things other people wouldn't touch with a ten-foot pole.

This made a wowzer delish chocolate low carb low fat muffin:

DRY
1/4 cup oat fiber
2 Tbs Hersheys special dark cocoa (20 cals)
1/2 tsp baking powder
1/3 or a little less cup erythritol
1 tsp glucomannan powder

blend dry ingredients

WET
1/3 cup liquid eggwhite (30)
2 Tbs davinci SF vanilla syrup
2 Tbs hersheys sf chocolate syrup (15 cals)


mix together wet and dry and microwave for about a minute. There may be a little moist stuff on top--don't microwave until entirely dry.

Im thinking about 65 calories and 2-3 carbs for the thing. I sliced it up and topped with a little more hersheys sf syrup and it was so YUM. I think adding the glucomannan powder to the dry ingredients gave it a much moister crumb than you usually get with oat fiber--and of course cocoa acts like flour most of the time.

I will so not be offended if no one a) wants to try this, or b) can't because they don't have all the wacky ingredients but go for it if you are a mad scientist like me

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=))) mommy_gates I'm so new to this I really don't have a clue what I'm doing but I'm doing this to try to figure it out. I do terribly myself trying to eat several small meals...small turns to a bit bigger then bigger. I have done Intermittent fasting which is what works for me best. JUDDD seems to have the flexibility though to work combining either small frequent meals or one or two large ones. I would think as long as you are satisfied with your progress how can it be wrong to have a bit more calories on your down days? If DD does nothing but make you feel deprived it's going to tempt you to slip.

Oh and what SoHappy said...one size does not fit all. The more I read about diet and nutrition I think everyone needs to find what works for them...one plan works great for many people but not everyone...another might be just terrible for the first group but just the ticket for others.

verbqueen I did not know you weren't supposed to weigh after up day! I weigh every day because I have problems with edema which I need to keep in check. I have found I can't eat fruit...one cantaloupe eaten over the course of one day recently caused me to retain 7 pounds of water =/ I have trouble like that with almost all carbs but not beans so far lol.

penguinpower I adore Oiuzoid's recipes...she's my hero! Oh and retroworx...they both are so good at making up recipes for carb like foods that don't make me retain fluid. I'm going to try retro's microwave bread today to make some BLTs. Yeah these things do sit like lead in your tummy don't they? When I eat regular high carb breads and treats I really don't feel like I have eaten anything but these high fiber/protein low calorie goodies give my body the signal that I have eaten something yummy.

I have not decided what I'm having today other than a stack of BLTs and my usual hunk'o meat...I was fantasizing yesterday about some really fatty pork chops...mmm. I try to keep most foods low fat so I can indulge on something that is special to me like that. I have been taking 3k mg of fish oil every day for Omega 3s to offset the Omega 6s I get from everything else. My osteoarthritis is so much improved by it.


SoHappy...that reminds me...that Land O Lakes butter is half the calories and fat but I do try to not overuse it since it is probably high Omega 6. I don't know if that is important to you.
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After a big UP day yesterday, I'm only up .2 of a pound.

Doing a DD today and starting off the morning sipping hot Earl Grey tea.

Trying to decide on what to have for meals today.. going to plan on another 500 to 550 calorie day.
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I've been up for three hours so decided to have breakfast earlier than I usually do.

Menu: breakfast sandwich of 2 slices low-cal bread, 2 egg whites, lettuce & tomato, with mustard.. more hot Earl Grey tea to drink

****** says 139 calories.
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..........SoHappy...that reminds me...that Land O Lakes butter is half the calories and fat but I do try to not overuse it since it is probably high Omega 6. I don't know if that is important to you..........
Good Morning, Bittersweet. I didn't realize I wasn't the first up and posting this morning so glad I went back and saw your post. You posted 5 minutes before I did!

If I can find the Land o' Lakes, I'm going to buy a pound just to use on DDs. It's like with eggs... I only use the whites on my DDs in order to keep my calories down, but on UDs I feel free to use the leftover yolks and whole eggs with no problem. I'll use the butter that way too. I don't eat much animal protein on DDs either, in order to spare the calories for other *more filling* foods.. like enormous piles of vegetables, but then on UDs I eat a lot of meats..

I take fish oil caps too for the Omega 3s. Don't figure it can hurt. And I like fish a lot too, and we have it a lot, and that's supposed to be pretty good for you too. LOL Mostly I just eat quite a lot of different 'stuff'.

I limit the commercially manufactured foods for the most part, so rarely use the bake mixes and specialty flours, etc. But then, if I need some flour or sugar for a recipe, I pretty much just use the 'carby stuff' that I've always used.

I guess if I was diabetic or quite sensitive to those carbs I'd have to eliminate the flour and sugar completely, but as it is, it doesn't save me much to use a carbquick-type product over the original higher carb one, since I hardly ever make anything of that type or use any of that stuff to begin with. I used to buy and use those lower carb replacement products, but since I don't use any of it too much, I just stopped spending my money on the alternatives. I don't use much of the real stuff very often anyway, so most of my carbs are from fruits and veggies. With the exception lately of the low-calorie bread, and I've enjoyed a couple loaves of that recently. LOL I'll have to try and locate a recipe for my bread machine for a low calorie bread. I might have to order some special products for that.
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Good morning ladies...down another lbs this morning.....i thought i was doing a DD day yesterday but it turn out i did consume a little bit more(1,311 calories)....higher than the day before (1,122).. so today i'll try for a lower comsumption...my menus are always done before my day starts but to stick to it ....

Breakfast this morning...2sliced of 12 grain toast with PB and chia seeds and my coffee

I'll be writing all my foods today...it give you all an idea where i go wrong or where there could be an improvment...

Bittersweet....i tend to overeat also...binging all afternoon than nothing till the next day...but i know it's not a healthy way that why i'm looking for something more than this binging...something more normal...

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Good morning ladies...down another lbs this morning.....i thought i was doing a DD day yesterday but it turn out i did consume a little bit more(1,311 calories)....higher than the day before (1,122).. so today i'll try for a lower comsumption...my menus are always done before my day starts but to stick to it ....
Gaets! Congratulations for another pound down.

This is only how my body works, so I don't know if it would apply to you but..... if I eat a day of only 1,100 or 1,200 or 1,300 calories, then the next day I would be too hungry to eat at an even lower calorie level... like a Down Day.

But if I eat at a higher calorie level on an Up Day, such as 1,500 or 1,600 or 1,700 (or higher) calories, then I am able to stay much lower calorie on my Down Day with great success. So then the really low DD calories averaged out with my higher Up Days, results in an overall average that is in the 1,100 or 1,200 range, but my HIGH calorie days keep my metabolism from slowing down, so in the end I am able to lose weight better.

Well, I just worry about slowing my metabolism down by eating at a low calorie level every day. I know the slow-down won't likely be permanent at all, but I need my metabolism to run as fast as it can in this old body. LOL

But those are only my calorie numbers. We're all different in what we can manage. But the cycling between high calories and low calories has seemed to make the weight loss easier for my body to achieve somehow, so in order to make it work for me, I have to make sure I don't keep my calories too similar from day to day and there not being enough of a high-low cycle in there. That high-low calorie cycle difference really seems to be one of the big keys for my body.

Do the rest of you experience this? Do you lose just as well and just as fast by holding your calories low every single day? Or do you find the JUDDD plan of alternating between the more extreme levels of high and low calories beneficial in stimulating weight loss? I'm curious about this.
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Thanks SoHappy....i thought b/c i didn't eat below 1,000 calories yesterday ..i had to try to have a lower DD today...but like you say if for me 1,311 was a o.k. day with some restriction...i should maybe have a UD today...bring my calories higher...(and that shouldn't be any problem there ....)...i'm still trying to figure out what would be my DD and UD...i did get a small headache yesterday with those amount of calories(1,311)...

today calories

1st meal...Breakfast - 280 cal.
2nd meal..apple -80 cal
3rd meal..lunch - ham sandwich with lowfat cheese string,ice tea and popchips:blush:..i know i have an addiction to salt (chips i stay away but baked chips...i love )..418 calories...(too much you think)..

So far i've got 778 calories consume....

4th meal if needed will be vegetables

5th meal -dinner will be 1 corn of a cob with becel margarine and 1/2 cup of potato salad made with light mayo

6th meal...if needed...fat free yogurt...total would be 1,222 for the day..lower than yesterday...

...Let you know how it goes...

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Thanks SoHappy....i thought b/c i didn't eat below 1,000 calories yesterday ..i had to try to have a lower DD today...but like you say if for me 1,311 was a o.k. day with some restriction...i should maybe have a UD today...bring my calories higher...(and that shouldn't be any problem there ....)...i'm still trying to figure out what would be my DD and UD...i did get a small headache yesterday with those amount of calories(1,311)...

today calories

1st meal...Breakfast - 280 cal.
2nd meal..apple -80 cal
3rd meal..lunch - ham sandwich with lowfat cheese string,ice tea and popchips:blush:..i know i have an addiction to salt (chips i stay away but baked chips...i love )..418 calories...(too much you think)..

So far i've got 778 calories consume....

4th meal if needed will be vegetables

5th meal -dinner will be 1 corn of a cob with becel margarine and 1/2 cup of potato salad made with light mayo

6th meal...if needed...fat free yogurt...total would be 1,222 for the day..lower than yesterday...

...Let you know how it goes...
I think it's just hard as the dickens to figure out what calorie and carb, etc. levels your body does best on, while being willing to release the fat stores, and still keep you feeling happy and pleased instead of discouraged and even angry!

I suppose only time tells us whether what we are doing is effective. Did you go to one of the good sites like freedieting to use their calorie calculator to figure out how many calories you should be eating to just maintain your body at its current weight?

I had to laugh when you said you couldn't resist baked chips.... I enjoyed a Snickers Almond Bar last evening! :blush:

But.. see.. it was my Up Day, and the calories fit into my allowed cal amounts. And today I'm back doing a good DD and will hold it to 500 to 550 calories, so-o-o-o.. I get to have that candy bar. I know most wouldn't have chosen that. But I don't have any no-no foods, so occasionally I really like a bar of candy. LOL Just saying I understand about the chips and how some things are pretty tasty.

As to your calorie numbers, wish I could help more. I'd just suggest finding out what your calories should be if you are strictly on maintenance and not in weight loss mode at all. And then I'd eat at that level (give or take a bit) on my Up Days, and I'd eat at about one third of that on my Down Days, and see if that resulted in a nice comfortable slow but easy weight loss over two or three weeks.

I don't know what to tell you about headaches. Low calorie days don't do that to me, but weather pressure changes sure can! And occasionally worry and stress, but I don't have too much of that these days. Do you get the headaches very often? Like on every single DD? Or do you just occasionally get headaches, whether you're on a diet or not?
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I think it's just hard as the dickens to figure out what calorie and carb, etc. levels your body does best on, while being willing to release the fat stores, and still keep you feeling happy and pleased instead of discouraged and even angry!

I suppose only time tells us whether what we are doing is effective. Did you go to one of the good sites like freedieting to use their calorie calculator to figure out how many calories you should be eating to just maintain your body at its current weight?

I had to laugh when you said you couldn't resist baked chips.... I enjoyed a Snickers Almond Bar last evening! :blush:

But.. see.. it was my Up Day, and the calories fit into my allowed cal amounts. And today I'm back doing a good DD and will hold it to 500 to 550 calories, so-o-o-o.. I get to have that candy bar. I know most wouldn't have chosen that. But I don't have any no-no foods, so occasionally I really like a bar of candy. LOL Just saying I understand about the chips and how some things are pretty tasty.

As to your calorie numbers, wish I could help more. I'd just suggest finding out what your calories should be if you are strictly on maintenance and not in weight loss mode at all. And then I'd eat at that level (give or take a bit) on my Up Days, and I'd eat at about one third of that on my Down Days, and see if that resulted in a nice comfortable slow but easy weight loss over two or three weeks.

I don't know what to tell you about headaches. Low calorie days don't do that to me, but weather pressure changes sure can! And occasionally worry and stress, but I don't have too much of that these days. Do you get the headaches very often? Like on every single DD? Or do you just occasionally get headaches, whether you're on a diet or not?
So Happy...i never get headaches,i just went through some site to see about calorie maintenance for me it would be between 1,650-1,561...so i will take the time and calculate what is what ....

Thank you so much for your patience and understanding ...i've been trying to figure out the best way to lose weight and to be healthy which that's what everybody wants...and trying to get away with cheating at times....
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Tuesday greetings, JUDDDers! Up Day for me today. I weighed in this morning a pound less then yesterday, but still a half pound more than Sunday's low post--DD weigh-in. I'll probably just continue to weigh every day. Every time I stop doing that, I seem to instantly have an out of control gaining problem. I know it's way too early to tell how this is going to work for me this time around, so I'm just observing what's happening on the scale right now, but not drawing any particular conclusions.

My DD was just fine yesterday--went to bed feeling a tad hungry, but dropped off to sleep quite easily and slept well.

I had another lunch out day today--end of the year luncheon for our church staff. I had a quesadilla. I also have another end of the year party tonight, for my bridge group. I will probably go ahead and eat at home and not eat at that party--the woman who is hosting it is all about piles of fattening finger foods and mini-desserts, and I'm not ready to tackle being able to track that kind of grazing this early in the game. It's almost impossible to keep track of what and how much you eat! Because I don't want to answer a bunch of questions about what I am or am not eating (and why are people so doggone interested in other people's diets, anyway?), I'll probably put something on a plate and carry it around with me!
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verbqueen I did not know you weren't supposed to weigh after up day! I weigh every day because I have problems with edema which I need to keep in check. I have found I can't eat fruit...one cantaloupe eaten over the course of one day recently caused me to retain 7 pounds of water =/ I have trouble like that with almost all carbs but not beans so far lol.
I shouldn't have worded it like that, Bittersweet! There aren't any "supposed to's" to it, are there? There's just what works or what doesn't work for each individual person! (I was just remembering that in the original JUDDD group I "hung out" with online, it was suggested not to weigh after an Up Day, especially if you are upset by fluctuations.)

Sheesh--if I were upset by weight fluctuations, I'd spend my entire life upset!

Anyhoo, I'm with you--I feel that I need to keep up my daily weighing, come what may! But I always stop to remind myself that water weight ups and downs are NOT body fat!

P.S. How nice for you that beans don't give you trouble. I love beans!
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So Happy...i never get headaches,i just went through some site to see about calorie maintenance for me it would be between 1,650-1,561...so i will take the time and calculate what is what ....

Thank you so much for your patience and understanding ...i've been trying to figure out the best way to lose weight and to be healthy which that's what everybody wants...and trying to get away with cheating at times....
Good luck in zeroing in on the numbers for UDs and DDs that will work for you for both losing weight and not getting too hungry beyond endurance on DDs nor going too far overboard on UDs.

AND, about that cheating at times thing... You know, other than the number of calories needing to be respected, there is really no cheating on JUDDD. Do you want a sweet roll? Just count the calories. My Snickers bar last night? I had to count the calories.

Now I don't... DO NOT... recommend much of this. But it's possible to have your cake and eat it too on JUDDD if you just count calories and stay within your limits on both UDs and DDs.

The real cheating on JUDDD is: consuming too many calories. It's up to you what foods you choose to make your meals from. Most do low carb. Some (me) do mid-range carb. But going overboard is what cheating is on JUDDD.
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..........I'll probably just continue to weigh every day. Every time I stop doing that, I seem to instantly have an out of control gaining problem. I know it's way too early to tell how this is going to work for me this time around, so I'm just observing what's happening on the scale right now, but not drawing any particular conclusions.........
I'm another one who weighs every day too. I absolutely am fine with the day to day fluctuations the dial shows, and I totally understand that all the scale is telling me is the amount of weight standing on it! That isn't all fat. Although... I do like to weigh first thing in the morning, and as 'empty' as I can be.

I use every morning's reading as motivation. If the number is up, it encourages me to hold to a really good day so that maybe I can see a lower number show up the next day. And if the number is down, I tell myself it shows my diet is working, and I use that as motivation to continue doing a good job so I can see more numbers, lower than this one!

I don't feel comfortable going for a week before weighing. I can get off track faster than that!
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I shouldn't have worded it like that, Bittersweet! There aren't any "supposed to's" to it, are there? There's just what works or what doesn't work for each individual person! (I was just remembering that in the original JUDDD group I "hung out" with online, it was suggested not to weigh after an Up Day, especially if you are upset by fluctuations.)

Sheesh--if I were upset by weight fluctuations, I'd spend my entire life upset!

Anyhoo, I'm with you--I feel that I need to keep up my daily weighing, come what may! But I always stop to remind myself that water weight ups and downs are NOT body fat!

P.S. How nice for you that beans don't give you trouble. I love beans!
Sorry. Already agreed with you about the daily weighing above.
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Checking in late today, dear JUDDDers. It is stinkin' hot and humid here today but I decided to cut some grass anyway. It's a DD, but since all I need to do is ride around and not fall off the lawn tractor, it's not too strenuous - but the heat did get to me. I was feeling a tad light-headed for a while.

Fortunately, my awesome Ouizoid chocolate superlow-cal muffin kept me full and satisfied all morning long! I did snap a couple of pix before I gobbled it up. I apologize for the lousy quality, but my good camera is at my business and this is my cheap drugstore camera. The first pic is the muffin with a little bit of SF Monin's chocolate syrup drizzled on top, and the second one is an attempt to show the size - that ruler puts it at 2" thick and 3.5" in diameter so it's a biggie! I like this flavor of muffin underdone so it is like a fudgy brownie when you eat it. I use the recipe I posted yesterday, except I don't use erythritol or Hershey's in the batter, but did add a tube of Baja Bob's Mudslide Mix to the "dough."





And then this is a picture of my alyssum border in part of my garden. I took it to make my mother jealous because hers isn't blooming too well for some reason. I'm such a bad daughter:

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Checking in late today, dear JUDDDers. It is stinkin' hot and humid here today but I decided to cut some grass anyway. It's a DD, but since all I need to do is ride around and not fall off the lawn tractor, it's not too strenuous - but the heat did get to me. I was feeling a tad light-headed for a while.

Fortunately, my awesome Ouizoid chocolate superlow-cal muffin kept me full and satisfied all morning long! I did snap a couple of pix before I gobbled it up. I apologize for the lousy quality, but my good camera is at my business and this is my cheap drugstore camera. The first pic is the muffin with a little bit of SF Monin's chocolate syrup drizzled on top, and the second one is an attempt to show the size - that ruler puts it at 2" thick and 3.5" in diameter so it's a biggie! I like this flavor of muffin underdone so it is like a fudgy brownie when you eat it. I use the recipe I posted yesterday, except I don't use erythritol or Hershey's in the batter, but did add a tube of Baja Bob's Mudslide Mix to the "dough."





And then this is a picture of my alyssum border in part of my garden. I took it to make my mother jealous because hers isn't blooming too well for some reason. I'm such a bad daughter:

Glad for the Food Porn!!! And really happy to see your beautiful, beautiful garden!

Now, as to the chocolate muffin... I'm in! All I have to do is order oat fiber. I have everything else on hand or can get it. I was about 98% tempted by the lemon muffin. But chocolate is my all time weakness, so this muffin photo put me over the top. Yummy looking.

And your poor mama... to have raised a daughter who would flaunt her alyssum border! Do you mulch with mowed grass? It looks so neat and orderly and without any little weeds trying to get a foothold there. Just beautiful. I'm envious.
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Yes SoHappy - I am a die-hard grass mulcher. When we moved here our soil was just horrible - lots of clay and so hard you could barely get a shovel in. Now, the soil is totally black and rich, and so easy to work you can just kind of push it aside to put in a plant. If a weed manages to start, it's really easy to pull out. The only downside is the birds figured out that lots of worms are under the grass and they will scratch and claw to get to them unless we keep the mulch really deep, so that's what I do. I have a couple of people who bag their dog-free grass and we pick it up when they cut. I don't bag my own grass lol - too weedy, and our lawn tractor mulches as it cuts so there isn't really any to get!

As for the muffin, after talking about the chocolate version yesterday I got to hankering for it, and it really tasted extra good today (poke at SoHappy to order that oat fiber!)
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Yes SoHappy - I am a die-hard grass mulcher. When we moved here our soil was just horrible - lots of clay and so hard you could barely get a shovel in. Now, the soil is totally black and rich, and so easy to work you can just kind of push it aside to put in a plant. If a weed manages to start, it's really easy to pull out. The only downside is the birds figured out that lots of worms are under the grass and they will scratch and claw to get to them unless we keep the mulch really deep, so that's what I do. I have a couple of people who bag their dog-free grass and we pick it up when they cut. I don't bag my own grass lol - too weedy, and our lawn tractor mulches as it cuts so there isn't really any to get!

As for the muffin, after talking about the chocolate version yesterday I got to hankering for it, and it really tasted extra good today (poke at SoHappy to order that oat fiber!)
LOLOLOLOL about getting a poke to order the oat stuff!

Well, I mulched with grass clippings years ago, and I liked it pretty well back then too. I don't even remember why I stopped doing that. But I have lots of *gardens* around the house here, although none so beautiful as yours, so I think I'll pick out one and use grass to mulch it and see what I think. We also have lots of birds around here, and lots of chipmunks, and rabbits and deer, so this will be a test mulch garden to see how it works. Usually I mulch with spagnum moss, but I have to pay many, many dollars every spring for that stuff, while my DH mows and disposes of all the many bags of grass clippings in our 'yardy' for curbside pickup each week.

And by using grass clippings for mulch, I can refresh the depth each week. Great! A whole new work project I've just assigned to myself!
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YAY! NEW LOW!!! Virgin Weight Loss Territory! JUDDD works!

Yesterday was a Down Day. This morning is a new low for me.

OK, now that I've celebrated this new number on the scale that I haven't seen in a long, long time, let me say that I know there will be a 'bounce' back up when I weigh again tomorrow morning after enjoying an UD today. At least, there usually is. Although occasionally I've lost even after an UD.

After seeing a new low weight on the scale in the past, sometimes I want to eat really, really low calorie and carefully so as not to see the scale go back up, and this is the compulsion I have to fight. I don't want my Up Days to be kept very low. It is precisely the fact that Up Days are not low, combined with DDs that are low that seem to trigger my metabolism to work better for me than it has in years!

So anyway, just am happy about the weight loss this month and the new number on the scale. So far, I'm on track (or really close) to ending the month down 7 pounds from the beginning of it, and that is after including that 3-day 50th reunion and DH's several birthday parties.

So.. admittedly a goodly chunk of my weight loss goal was just to bring myself down from the top to the bottom of the 5-pound maintenance margin that I allow myself. I'd come to the top of that 'weight spread' and it was time to get myself back down to the low end again. But then I added in a couple of new pounds to lose, and that's how I came up with the goal of 7 pounds to lose in June. (So even if I don't lose all 7 pounds, JUDDD has brought me down from the high of my maintenance range to the low end and beyond, all within about three weeks.

What a fabulous and easy eating plan!!!!! And to think that only half of those days are a "diet"... on the other days I don't consider myself to be on any diet of any kind, at all. Other than usually not eating like there is no tomorrow.
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Good luck in zeroing in on the numbers for UDs and DDs that will work for you for both losing weight and not getting too hungry beyond endurance on DDs nor going too far overboard on UDs.

AND, about that cheating at times thing... You know, other than the number of calories needing to be respected, there is really no cheating on JUDDD. Do you want a sweet roll? Just count the calories. My Snickers bar last night? I had to count the calories.

Now I don't... DO NOT... recommend much of this. But it's possible to have your cake and eat it too on JUDDD if you just count calories and stay within your limits on both UDs and DDs.

The real cheating on JUDDD is: consuming too many calories. It's up to you what foods you choose to make your meals from. Most do low carb. Some (me) do mid-range carb. But going overboard is what cheating is on JUDDD.

Very well said SoHappy....couldn't of said it better.....the scale still showed a deficient this morning.....today is a DD...

CONGRATS SOHAPPY ON YOUR NEW LOW.....WAY TO GO GIRL....

One question i would like to ask you....do you exercise??
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..........CONGRATS SOHAPPY ON YOUR NEW LOW.....WAY TO GO GIRL....

One question i would like to ask you....do you exercise??
Thanks, Gaets. I'm happy to see the loss. Maintenance has been pretty easy, allowing for the scale to bounce around a bit within the range I hold to, so this is what got me to thinking I'd go for a bit more weight loss and then maintain for awhile at that lower weight and see how I like 'living' there.

I do exercise on occasion, and that is mainly doing some swimming at the pool, occasionally the treadmill, rarely the 'weight' machines. But as my health club would tell you, my attendance is very, very spotty this time of year.

I try to be active in my life, but alas.. I admit I spend far more hours sitting than I should. I blame being old, but mostly I fear it's being lazy. Occasionally I go walking with gal pals, like taking a nature walk on the trails or occasionally mall walking and then a 'treat'... :blush:

So I'd like to tell you I exercise regularly and well, but that would be a lie. But there is one thing I do that I think actually is a help to maybe burn a few calories. I can't sit still. If I'm watching TV, I have to hop up whenever an ad comes on and go out to the kitchen to wipe up a counter, or pop into the bedroom to put away something. If I'm sitting at the computer, I'm 'online' all day long, but usually not in front of the screen.. I'm off doing something else. So I'm active in that way. I don't sit down and then just sit back and relax. So I sit, I just can't sit still.

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YEAH - VWT for SoHappy. Woo hoo!!!!!!

Bitter and Gates - sounds like you gals are really working the plan to find your "spot" - awesome.

No VWT for me yet; in fact, still hanging on to one stubborn gained pound from the weekend festivities. I still have time to meet my goal, though, and I'm gonna do it.

I made a yummy DD salad yesterday, similar to the tuna-shirataki thing we've been enjoying - just didn't use tuna or shirataki lol. I had some veggies that just had to be used up, so I finely shredded some napa, and thin-thin-thin sliced some celery, snow pea pods, green pepper, regular radishes, and chopped up about 8 green onions. Mixed it all together with 1/2 cup of the Newman's Sesame dressing and let it marinate for half a day. Oh my gosh, it was so cool and crisp and refreshing on a hot day. I think it would be even more awesome with a little extra hot kick and maybe a bit of peanut flour, but this was a winner. I made a huge bowl of it, and even with DH "helping" we didn't finish half of it.
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Every movement helps....whatever your walking or just fidgeting around...your burning calories and that's what you want...

PenguinP....i wish i would love vegetables but that my biggest battle,making sure that i get some at least once a day..and most of the time i don't

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