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Old 11-29-2010, 10:31 AM   #271
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I have a fasting blood draw at 9 am.
Leo, I hope it went well.

(I hate anything that involves needles...)
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It makes JUDDD look like heaven.
Thanks, Michelle. I've been wondering about HCG.

Somewhere on the internet I read that it can make a woman feel like she's in early pregnancy, since it's a hormone our bodies release at that time. That made me decide against trying HCG... I remember feeling nauseated and exhausted for the first couple of months of each pregnancy, and very emotional at the drop of a hat. No thanks.

Also, I think it can't be good for our bodies to have a pregnancy hormone circulating around when we're not actually pregnant.

I still have the irrational wish for a quick and easy way to lose my excess weight, even though I know that lasting results require sustained lifestyle changes.

Anyway, welcome back to JUDDD.

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Thanks for the good wishes, but my blood draw is routine now. My endo checks my thyroid every 4 months. I'll know the results when I see him next week for our quarterly appointment.

I've never been pregnant, but I, too, don't like the idea of taking hormones without a medical reason--as with my thyroid. When I began menopause, hormone replacement was the big thing, but I wouldn't do it because I didn't like the idea of 'tinkering' with my hormones unnecessarily--i.e., I wasn't 'suffering,' and I regard menopause as a totally natural process.

Magentagirl- It's natural for a DD to be tough, but it may be worse if you didn't eat much yesterday. I find that on some of my UDs [very few], I'm naturally not very hungry, but that always makes the following DD more difficult.
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Thanks for the good wishes, but my blood draw is routine now. My endo checks my thyroid every 4 months. I'll know the results when I see him next week for our quarterly appointment.

I've never been pregnant, but I, too, don't like the idea of taking hormones without a medical reason--as with my thyroid. When I began menopause, hormone replacement was the big thing, but I wouldn't do it because I didn't like the idea of 'tinkering' with my hormones unnecessarily--i.e., I wasn't 'suffering,' and I regard menopause as a totally natural process.

Magentagirl- It's natural for a DD to be tough, but it may be worse if you didn't eat much yesterday. I find that on some of my UDs [very few], I'm naturally not very hungry, but that always makes the following DD more difficult.
Magentagirl, I agree with Leo, dd's are tougher when you didn't eat much on your ud before. I'm kind of experiencing this today also. It's not really bad and I'll make it but I am having a more difficult time than my last dd for sure. We can do it! I've had a lot of tea today and I sometimes think I do better if I don't eat OR drink much. Next dd I'm going to experiement with not drinking much again, like my last dd and see if I have an easier time.
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Good morning everyone! I was down today after my UD yesterday. I know it's water weight from my period but whatever!
Here's a wonderful old post from elsewhere on the board that explains some of the science behind "water loss" and "fat loss," and makes it clear that the scale is not always giving us accurate information:

WHY THE SCALES CAN LIE

A biologist at Berkeley shared something very revealing on the low-carb BBS system about 4 years ago that helps us all through the erratic weight fluctuations you invariably encounter: Fat cells are resilient, stubborn little creatures that do not want to give up their actual cell volume. Over a period of weeks, maybe months of "proper dieting", each of your fat cells may have actually lost a good percentage of the actual fat contained in those cells. But the fat cells themselves, stubborn little guys, replace that lost fat with water to retain their size. That is, instead of shrinking to match the reduced amount of fat in the cell, they stay the same size! Result - you weigh the same, look the same, maybe even gained some scale weight, even though you have actually lost some serious fat.

The good news is that this water replacement is temporary. It's a defensive measure to keep your body from changing too rapidly. It allows the fat cell to counter the rapid change in cell composition, allowing for a slow, gradual reduction in cell size. The problem is, most people are frustrated with their apparent lack of success, assume they have lost nothing, and stop dieting.

However, if you give those fat cells some time, like 4-6 months, and ignore the scale weight fluctuations, your real weight/shape will slowly begin to show. The moral of the story - be patient! Your body is changing even if the number on the scale isn't.

PATTERNS OF WEIGHT LOSS

Common patterns of weight loss from tracking a lot of people who become assimilated into the low carb lifestyle, a pattern emerges.... the 2 week induction is pretty heady...weight lost just about every single day, enormous and unbelievable amounts of weight loss are reported. This is often followed by complaints that weight loss "stalls" or that the rate drops to only 1 pound per week.

Many people just don't know that fat-loss ...the actual goal when on a weight-reduction" diet, is rate-limited. In other words, the human body has factors that prevent more than a certain amount of fatty-acid release from storage...and even more factors that prevent those released fatty acids from being used up instead of stored back into the fat cells.

A priority of the human body is survival. Anything that threatens its survival results in the cascade of events to maintain the previous status quo. Water fluctuations are one way the body does this. OK...so you done good on Atkins' during induction...lost 10 pounds the first 2 weeks. Maybe 7 the first week and 3 the second. But, whoa! Weeks 3 and 4 there is NO loss! And weeks 5 and 6 is only 1/2 pound each!

So... what gives? Initially, the body jettisons the water attached to the glycogen stores that we diligently deplete to get into ketosis...this accounts for about 3-5 pounds of water. In addition, muscle stores of glycogen are not being replaced when used...which will account for the rest. All in all...MAYBE 1/2 pound of fat was metabolized during the first week... and MAYBE 1/2 pound of fat was metabolized the 2nd week. Of that 10 initial pounds, only 1 pound was fat and 9 pounds water...

The body senses this lack and sirens start shrieking: Warning! Warning! Losing water... new thing...got to get back to the status quo! Brain tells body to produce and release that vasopressin anti-diuretic hormone....more water is retained, and no weight loss noticed. Fat loss is still occurring, MAYBE even 2 pounds per week, because ketosis is firmly established and appetite suppression is in effect...but water retention is hiding that continuing fat loss. The body is preventing dehydration with this mechanism, and that's a *good* thing.

From the perspective of the scale, it can be discouraging. Which is why the mantra: Water retention masks fat loss (repeated frequently to oneself) is helpful. Water retention will mask ongoing fat-loss for as long as the body retains the water. We can combat this by drinking more water...but we aren't going to totally overcome this mechanism during the initial water-loss phase of the Atkins diet. By weeks 5 and 6, things start to get back in balance, and the scale will begin to reflect the true fat-loss...which, as mentioned before is rate-limited.

Individuals vary, but max weight loss runs about 2 pounds per week...under extremely optimal conditions... or 1% of body weight (whichever is the lower number). So don't use the scale as an excuse to undermine your progress. Even when the scale is in a stall, fat loss can be occurring.

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We've been told over an over again that daily weighing is unnecessary, yet many of us can't resist peeking at that number every morning. If you just can't bring yourself to toss the scale in the trash, you should definitely familiarize yourself with the factors that influence it's readings. From water retention to glycogen storage and changes in lean body mass, daily weight fluctuations are normal. They are not indicators of your success or failure. Once you understand how these mechanisms work, you can free yourself from the daily battle with the bathroom scale.

Water makes up about 60% of total body mass. Normal fluctuations in the body's water content can send scale-watchers into a tailspin if they don't understand what's happening. Two factors influencing water retention are water consumption and salt intake. Strange as it sounds, the less water you drink, the more of it your body retains. If you are even slightly dehydrated your body will hang onto it's water supplies with a vengeance, possibly causing the number on the scale to inch upward. The solution is to drink plenty of water.

Excess salt (sodium) can also play a big role in water retention. A single teaspoon of salt contains over 2,000 mg of sodium. Generally, we should only eat between 1,000 and 3,000 mg of sodium a day, so it's easy to go overboard. Sodium is a sneaky substance. You would expect it to be most highly concentrated in salty chips, nuts, and crackers. However, a food doesn't have to taste salty to be loaded with sodium. A half cup of instant pudding actually contains nearly four times as much sodium as an ounce of salted nuts, 460 mg in the pudding versus 123 mg in the nuts.

The more highly processed a food is, the more likely it is to have a high sodium content. That's why, when it comes to eating, it's wise to stick mainly to the basics: fruits, vegetables, lean meat, beans, and whole grains. Be sure to read the labels on canned foods, boxed mixes, and frozen dinners.

Women may also retain several pounds of water prior to menstruation. This is very common and the weight will likely disappear as quickly as it arrives. Pre-menstrual water-weight gain can be minimized by drinking plenty of water, maintaining an exercise program, and keeping high-sodium processed foods to a minimum.

Another factor that can influence the scale is glycogen. Think of glycogen as a fuel tank full of stored carbohydrate. Some glycogen is stored in the liver and some is stored the muscles themselves. This energy reserve weighs more than a pound and it's packaged with 3-4 pounds of water when it's stored. Your glycogen supply will shrink during the day if you fail to take in enough carbohydrates.

As the glycogen supply shrinks you will experience a small imperceptible increase in appetite and your body will restore this fuel reserve along with it's associated water. It's normal to experience glycogen and water weight shifts of up to 2 pounds per day even with no changes in your calorie intake or activity level. These fluctuations have nothing to do with fat loss, although they can make for some unnecessarily dramatic weigh-ins if you're prone to obsessing over the number on the scale.

Otherwise rational people also tend to forget about the actual weight of the food they eat. For this reason, it's wise to weigh yourself first thing in the morning before you've had anything to eat or drink. Swallowing a bunch of food before you step on the scale is no different than putting a bunch of rocks in your pocket. The 5 pounds that you gain right after a huge dinner is not fat. It's the actual weight of everything you've had to eat and drink. The added weight of the meal will be gone several hours later when you've finished digesting it.

Exercise physiologists tell us that in order to store one pound of fat, you need to eat 3,500 calories more than your body is able to burn. In other words, to actually store the above dinner as 5 pounds of fat, it would have to contain a whopping 17,500 calories. This is not likely, in fact it's not humanly possible. So when the scale goes up 3 or 4 pounds overnight, rest easy, it's likely to be water, glycogen, and the weight of your dinner. Keep in mind that the 3,500 calorie rule works in reverse also. In order to lose one pound of fat you need to burn 3,500 calories more than you take in.

Generally, it's only possible to lose 1-2 pounds of fat per week. When you follow a very low calorie diet that causes your weight to drop 10 pounds in 7 days, it's physically impossible for all of that to be fat. What you're really losing is water, glycogen, and muscle.

This brings us to the scale's sneakiest attribute. It doesn't just weigh fat. It weighs muscle, bone, water, internal organs and all. When you lose "weight," that doesn't necessarily mean that you've lost fat. In fact, the scale has no way of telling you what you've lost (or gained). Losing muscle is nothing to celebrate. Muscle is a metabolically active tissue. The more muscle you have the more calories your body burns, even when you're just sitting around. That's one reason why a fit, active person is able to eat considerably more food than the dieter who is unwittingly destroying muscle tissue.

Robin Landis, author of "Body Fueling," compares fat and muscles to feathers and gold. One pound of fat is like a big fluffy, lumpy bunch of feathers, and one pound of muscle is small and valuable like a piece of gold. Obviously, you want to lose the dumpy, bulky feathers and keep the sleek beautiful gold. The problem with the scale is that it doesn't differentiate between the two. It can't tell you how much of your total body weight is lean tissue and how much is fat.

There are several other measuring techniques that can accomplish this, although they vary in convenience, accuracy, and cost. Skin-fold calipers pinch and measure fat folds at various locations on the body, hydrostatic (or underwater) weighing involves exhaling all of the air from your lungs before being lowered into a tank of water, and bioelectrical impedance measures the degree to which your body fat impedes a mild electrical current.

If the thought of being pinched, dunked, or gently zapped just doesn't appeal to you, don't worry. The best measurement tool of all turns out to be your very own eyes. How do you look? How do you feel? How do your clothes fit? Are your rings looser? Do your muscles feel firmer? These are the true measurements of success. If you are exercising and eating right, don't be discouraged by a small gain on the scale. Fluctuations are perfectly normal. Expect them to happen and take them in stride.

It's a matter of mind over scale
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Old 11-29-2010, 01:00 PM   #276
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Decision: I'll be joining those of you who are doing JUDDD for weight loss at this time. I've been maintaining my weight well for some time now, but at a level that is higher than I really want to be at. Not bad, but just not as slim as would be my ideal.

I'm 67 years old.. and have just received the BIG NOTICE that our HS 50th Reunion is coming up!!! We'll be having a great big 3-day shindig at the end of May. I will just have turned 68 years old before then, and I think I'm going to attend..... and be looking pretty slim and trim at that time. I don't color my salt & pepper hair, and the sagging and wrinkles are evident now in my older age, but I can at least look fit in my new smaller-sized clothes!

So I'm now officially eating for weight loss rather than maintenance. Oh, wow.

Welcome to the losers group, SoHappy.

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I don't know if I have conquered the weekend eating, but I now know I can do it. I believe the weekend thing is definitely psychological. I just can't figure out what the deal is or why. We didn't do anything social after Thanksgiving this weekend and I had no problem. I think it might be the social thing. I will find out in the next couple of weeks. [/B]
Keep us posted, Michelle. I think weekends can be challenging for many of us... What you learn may be helpful to me, too.

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Welcome to the losers group, SoHappy.

Will you have to change how you're working the JUDDD program?
Ummmmmmm, yeah.....

I expect I'll have to lower the DD calories and lower the UD calories: A LOT!!!

I'll back the DD calories down to about 450 to start with, and lower UD calories to 1,800 to start with and see what about 10 days of that brings.

My Up Days were just so fabulous. And not especially low carb either. :blush: But it all balanced out and let me maintain.

But now that I'm going to head into another round of weight loss, I'll have to tighten up on everything, carbs and calories both.

Today is my first day of UD calories of 1,800 or fewer. (I forgot how many I was worthy of. I'll have to go back to the site and compute what my calorie level should be.) I maybe am supposed to be lower than that, but I am still pretty active.. at least in spurts.

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Looks like you all had a great Thanksgiving and getting back to Judd.I will be doing dd Tuesday and getting back to curves.I was looking at finding recipes for kohlrabi.
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I posted quite a few times today... Hope it doesn't seem like too much.

Just one last post tonight.

My weight was down another 2 pounds this morning. I seem to be getting the full benefit of the water-weight-loss from being off of sugar, extra salty foods, bad fats, etc. 6 pounds down in the first 3 days. Probably goes to show just how swollen and bloated I had gotten.

Today was a moderate UD for me. I had 3 meals so far, and I'm about to have my small, healthy snack. And then, good-night!
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Isn't it nice to see that scale number go down? Whether it's water or fat, you'll still feel a lot better physically!

I had a really easy DD yesterday--but it wasn't pleasant. I had a headache and felt 'unwell' all day, so I had only about 100 cal of egg white 'omelets'--and my usual hot tea. In the olden days, I used to eat more when I wasn't feeling well (because I felt sorry for myself), but yesterday, whenever my thoughts roamed to food, I checked my appetite--and didn't find any! So not eating when not hungry is progress for me. I guess this is what 'normal' people do. . . .

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Leo, I'm sorry you didn't feel well yesterday!

Thanks to everyone for the support during my rough down day. It ended up being a more moderate day because we went to this thing in the evening and they had food samples. Still not an up day, but not as low calorie as I was striving for.

I still lost a half pound, though.

So today will be my first UD, and even though I might see a gain in the morning (I'm a daily weigher), I'll be better equipped to handle my first true DD!

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Just wanted to say good morning you all. Juddd is going very well for me. I read some of your post I will be back to read more later. I am so sleepy right now. DD for me today. staying right on track.
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My first DD today at the lowered calorie level... of 450 calories.

I'm thinking that if 500 calories wasn't bad, this shouldn't be much different.
Off to prepare the foods and post my foods and menu on the DD Menu thread here.

Hope you all have a great day and a very successful JUDDD one!
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I feel like I'm not interacting much right now, but did want to check in. We started back to school yesterday and I'm trying to have a very productive 3 weeks before we break for Christmas and our trip to Honduras. (we homeschool) So, I wish I could respond more but at this time, it's not possible. I did want to say Leo, that I'm sorry you didn't feel well. I hope you feel better today.

I had a good dd yesterday. I just repeated my 315 calories I had had the other dd before. It worked well for me. I was down to just .4 above my sig weight! woohoo!

Kids are finished lunch...back to the books.
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I had a really easy DD yesterday--but it wasn't pleasant. I had a headache and felt 'unwell' all day, so I had only about 100 cal of egg white 'omelets'--and my usual hot tea. In the olden days, I used to eat more when I wasn't feeling well (because I felt sorry for myself), but yesterday, whenever my thoughts roamed to food, I checked my appetite--and didn't find any! So not eating when not hungry is progress for me. I guess this is what 'normal' people do. . . .
Sorry, you didn't feel well. I hope you feel better.

DD for me today, after a great UD yesterday. I don't really have alot to add to that....lol.

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Well, the fancy dinner on Saturday has been canceled, and as I am not yet hungry after my coffee I am thinking about turning this into a real DD. Then I'll have my UD tomorrow. Perhaps that will help with my hunger level on the next DD.

I have my soup all ready, so I'm not stressing so much.
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One thing I've noticed about JUDDD is that your appetite is brought under control very fast.

DDs aren't nearly as difficult as I thought they'd be, especially subsequent ones after that first day, which was a bit rougher.

And I even find that the UDs following often go until the very late part of the morning before my appetite wakens.

Now that response was on 500 calorie DDs, and today I'm dropping that down to 450 calories, so I'll see if that makes much difference at all.

I know there are some of you who fast on DDs at much lower calorie levels than this even. I'd be interested on your take on whether you get good appetite regulation from this like I seem to.
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Leo, hope you feel better today.
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Thanks for all your good wishes! I feel much better today, but I suspect my body was anticipating the weather. Today it's supposed to rain later and all day tomorrow quite ferociously (according to the guys on TV). But all day today, it's been dismal, damp, and grey. I keep checking to see if it's raining yet because that's what it looks like--but it hasn't started yet. The weather looks like I felt yesterday!

Carrollee-As a daily weigher, be warned (if you don't already know) that there are typically big fluctuations with JUDDD. I only weigh once a week, and the times I've checked mid-week--even after a DD--have been disheartening (because I take the scale number far too seriously).
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Carrollee-As a daily weigher, be warned (if you don't already know) that there are typically big fluctuations with JUDDD. I only weigh once a week, and the times I've checked mid-week--even after a DD--have been disheartening (because I take the scale number far too seriously).
Glad you are feeling better! I do remember the weight fluctuations from last time, and I don't really get discouraged by them for the most part. I have a chart in Excel so I can see my progression downward, even if from day to day it's a jaggedy line.
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Leo, are you bothered by the arrival of low pressure systems? I can always (or usually) tell 24 hours to 48 hours before we are going to get rain, or at least gloomy weather, because the pressure falls. And it affects me so that I feel a lot more pain all over. I guess that's a fibromyalgia thing, and also an arthritis thing. A lot of folks who have either health ailment report they can tell when a low pressure arrives in the area. Hope you feel better now.

I think I'm about the only person who enjoys the grey, somber, misty-cool days of November. My DH thinks that is a little depressing, but to me, that kind of weather seems to be absolutely peaceful. And so many of the sounds are muffled in the mists, so it's blissfully silent.

Some of my ancestors were from Scotland. Maybe I have a genetic longing for the misty moors of Scotland and Heathcliff and Catherine.
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I think I'm about the only person who enjoys the grey, somber, misty-cool days of November. My DH thinks that is a little depressing, but to me, that kind of weather seems to be absolutely peaceful. And so many of the sounds are muffled in the mists, so it's blissfully silent.

Some of my ancestors were from Scotland. Maybe I have a genetic longing for the misty moors of Scotland and Heathcliff and Catherine.
I like this weather, as long as I can stay inside! My son (he's 3) says that this is a fun and cloudy day.
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Old 11-30-2010, 02:46 PM   #294
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Here in California it's crispy-cold and sunny, my very favorite weather.

I'm having an easy DD so far today, enjoying my tea... No hunger at all, but I pretty much never get a hungry body, just a mind that turns to food for comfort, for pleasure, to alleviate boredom, etc.

I used to weigh every day, but now I just weigh after my DDs. Otherwise the fluctuations are too distressing for me.

It's good to be back on JUDDD. After just a few days, I appreciate the serenity I feel about food.
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SoHappy- I have good and bad days with my arthritis, but I've never considered whether they're weather related. If yesterday's headache was from the low pressure system, I'm still worried because I never get headaches--until this recent problem I've been having. I see the neurologist on 7 Dec., and I'm beginning to think that he's going to send me to an ENT because this may all be sinus related.

I'll be happy to finally get a diagnosis because I haven't dared exercise since this all started, and I'm beginning to miss it a lot--not to mention having to really watch my calories without my regular workouts.
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Leo, I most often can tell when the wall of low pressure moves into my area. In the morning I might be feeling really, really chipper and then, almost suddenly it seems, feel pain. It often really is like I can feel the invisible wall as it arrives. My rheumatologist told me that many fibro patients report this, and sometimes folks with arthritis too, so perhaps you are sensitive too.

Had a nice workout at the health center today. About 40 minutes swimming, another 15 in the whirlpool, about 10 in the dry sauna, and then a brief but brisk walk on the treadmill before it was time to leave and go pick up DH from his workout at his athletic center. We each like our own the best.
Now that the cool weather has arrived, the heated pool is a welcome place to visit.
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Here in California it's crispy-cold and sunny, my very favorite weather.

I'm having an easy DD so far today, enjoying my tea... No hunger at all, but I pretty much never get a hungry body, just a mind that turns to food for comfort, for pleasure, to alleviate boredom, etc.

I used to weigh every day, but now I just weigh after my DDs. Otherwise the fluctuations are too distressing for me.

It's good to be back on JUDDD. After just a few days, I appreciate the serenity I feel about food.
me too! I had a very strange (for me) thing happen today. It's an UD for me and usually on UD's I get all excited about eating so I eat, then I'm usually thinking about what I will eat next, etc. Today however, I ate breakfast and then got busy with homeschooling my girls. At lunch, which seemed early for me since we had kind of eaten a late breakfast, I fixed the girls their lunch, but...and here's the weird part, I didn't even think about eating myself. Then later in the afternoon, we were still working at school work and I realized I had to run into town, so we left, did our errands (I did grab a candy bar after we first got to town, but even then, didn't realize I hadn't eaten lunch...I just wanted a candy bar) then much later, we had to run in the grocery store and while shopping I finally thought (and this was about 5pm) "wait, did I eat lunch?....no, I don't think I did...hmmm...) lol! I don't think I have EVER done that! So we came home, I made dinner and we've eaten, but I didn't obsess over food today! yeah me!
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Old 11-30-2010, 06:03 PM   #298
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I didn't obsess over food today! yeah me!

That's great!

Maybe you're settling into the routine of JUDDD. It's a program where we don't have to feel deprived, so we don't have to get anxious about food.

Good for you!
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Today is Tuesday, a DD for me, and I need Saturday to be an UD.

I notice that some people are shifting their days around by having 2 UD in a row, while other people use a Medium Day.

Any thoughts on which works better for you, and why so?
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That's great!

Maybe you're settling into the routine of JUDDD. It's a program where we don't have to feel deprived, so we don't have to get anxious about food.

Good for you!
Yes, I think so. I did eat more this evening than I would ordinarily but I was afraid that since I didn't eat much earlier it would make my dd tomorrow really hard. I still didn't overeat.

I've been thinking about maintenance. I think that at maintenance I would really like to try Fast 5 only because eating in the evenings only is really easy for me so I think it would be a very natural way for me to maintain and then use JUDDD as a correcting plan if I put on a few pounds. Right now though, I'm just praying to get at least 7 pounds off in the next 4 weeks. I think I can!
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