Nov JUDDD / Alternate Day (We can do hard things!)

[Whitlin']

EmandM, I range between 750 and 900 on DDs (3 per week), depending, frankly, on whether the scale agreed with my opinion of my weight that morning! (smile) It's mostly closer to 900. The morning I saw the pound up I kept it to 715 that day and the pound disappeared. Yesterday was 840 and I felt really good, scale steady.

I suppose it is disappointing for some of us to hear that I still watch calories in maintenance, and I could probably do it by the "feel" of what I'm eating that day. But it's not a hassle for me to count, so I do. It helps me keep sodium in control, too, and reminds me to eat healthy things. I try for 1,800 on UDs so I am very close to a straight 50 percent on DDs.

[EmandM]

Whittlin - I am the same on maintenance. I do 3 DD's a week and I range from 750-1000 calories, also depending on the scale. I eat to satisfaction on UD's but if I were to count it'd be around 1700-1800. I find that I don't really count but I am aware and I tend to eat the same foods, or the same combinations of foods, so I know pretty well how many cals I am eating on DD's.

[Leo41]

Whitlin-

I am not discouraged by your counting because I'm sure that I'll have to count for the rest of my life. A couple of times I've tried to just 'eat to satisfaction' on an UD, and when I counted in retrospect, I was amazed at how high I'd gone. Like you, I don't find counting a problem at all.

Thanks for the info about maintenance. I'm scheduled to go on a 2-week cruise in February, and my plan is that regardless of where I am at that time, I'm going to switch to maintenance for those two weeks. I've been on cruises before, and I honestly think that I can manage an 800-calorie DD. If I can return without a gain, that will be a triumph.

[Leo41]

Weekly Weigh In

I didn't weigh last Saturday because I was away, but I had a doctor's appointment on Monday, 11/2, and got a weight there. I weighed myself when I returned from Disney (after one DD) on Tuesday, 11/10, and I was down one pound. This morning, I'm down another .5 for a total of 1.5 for the two weeks. It's my typically slow loss, but at least I'm not gaining

On another board, I read about a study done (in Chicago, I think) of 'alternate day' dieting that had nothing to do with JUDDD--at least there was no reference to Dr. J's plan. These doctors acted as though they thought of it themselves. The only difference was that on DDs, the participants only ate in a window between 10 am and 2 pm, although on UDs they ate whatever and whenever they wanted. I'm assuming that restriction is to keep the fast longer, and I'm thinking of trying this next week just to see how it works. Although I'm a morning eater, I find that on DDs, I'm not as hungry in the morning as I am on UDs. I mainly eat my egg whites to have something with my fish oil/vit D supplements, but I can take those later with food at 10.

However, this report didn't include many details about weight loss of participants. They admitted that there was a "range" of loss, with the average being about 1.5 lbs a week. Since I'm a very slow loser, it doesn't seem as though I'd lose any more this way than with what I'm doing, but it might be interesting to try it, since I think I can adapt to it fairly easily.

[Redeemed]

066.gif Started JUDDD last Saturday. Down six pounds today; however, I did have a seven pound loss during the week. The UD I had Thursday went a little over the top because of the restaurant food. Today's UD is already prepared, pacakaged and calories counted. I have a 12 hour shift. I have about 1700 calories for the day. Will save 300 in case I get hungry after work.

LEO: Congratulations on 1.5 pounds down. You must be closing in on your forty pound milestone.

BILL: Alzheimer's is a robber. I'm sorry your joy was stolen yesterday. I hope you have a good day today. My first job as a nurse was in an Alzheimer's unit. The challenges for everyone concerned are very profound.

EVERYONE: Have a great day.

[EmandM]

Originally Posted by Leo41

Weekly Weigh In

I didn't weigh last Saturday because I was away, but I had a doctor's appointment on Monday, 11/2, and got a weight there. I weighed myself when I returned from Disney (after one DD) on Tuesday, 11/10, and I was down one pound. This morning, I'm down another .5 for a total of 1.5 for the two weeks. It's my typically slow loss, but at least I'm not gaining

On another board, I read about a study done (in Chicago, I think) of 'alternate day' dieting that had nothing to do with JUDDD--at least there was no reference to Dr. J's plan. These doctors acted as though they thought of it themselves. The only difference was that on DDs, the participants only ate in a window between 10 am and 2 pm, although on UDs they ate whatever and whenever they wanted. I'm assuming that restriction is to keep the fast longer, and I'm thinking of trying this next week just to see how it works. Although I'm a morning eater, I find that on DDs, I'm not as hungry in the morning as I am on UDs. I mainly eat my egg whites to have something with my fish oil/vit D supplements, but I can take those later with food at 10.

However, this report didn't include many details about weight loss of participants. They admitted that there was a "range" of loss, with the average being about 1.5 lbs a week. Since I'm a very slow loser, it doesn't seem as though I'd lose any more this way than with what I'm doing, but it might be interesting to try it, since I think I can adapt to it fairly easily.

Interesting tweak for JUDDDers. Let us know how it goes for you and congrats on the loss!

Redeemed - that is a great loss! Good for you for packing all your food for work! That will help avoid spontaneous trips to the vending machines!

Bill - I too am sorry for what you are going through with your parents. I panic whenever my dad (he is 62) forgets something. Mind you he has been forgetting things for my entire life, so it could be nothing (he has been known to leave his wallet on top of his car, suitcases in the parking lot of an airport etc and he is a brilliant doctor! lol). Alzheimer's is hearbreaking for everyone.

[Leo41]

Redeemed-

Actually, I'm closing in on 50 lbs lost with JUDDD--46 to date. If I can get there by Christmas (when I started JUDDD last year) that would be reasonable, since my losses have been averaging 1 lb a week all year. I'm more than happy with this because I struggled with standard low carb for almost a year, gaining and losing the same 5-10 lbs--after initially losing close to 90 lbs. JUDDD has been great for me, and, like Whitlin', I think I'll follow this in maintenance because it's the only way to restrict without pain.

Bill-

I have had two friends who had to deal with a parent with Alzheimer's, so I know how devastating it can be for everyone involved. It seems to me that you're doing exactly what all experts advise--be sure to care for yourself in this process. Great work controlling your BG!

[BillB]

Hey all,

Thanks for all the kind words!

Easy UD today, exactly on target. Appetite is diminishing...hard to make myself eat enough to get enough protein.

BG levels under 120 all day...very pleased.

I JUDDD.

--bill

[BillB]

Did I scare everyone away?

--bill

[CrystalPistol]

I don't think so Bill. I believe aliens took over the planet yesterday and you were impervious to their mind control. Now we are all back to normal, YAY!!!

Had a cold this weekend and wanted to eat everything in sight. I'm not looking at the scale until Thursday. What is it about being sick that makes you feel like you're entitled to all the food in the world? Or is it just me? Probably just me.

Anyway, I'm sure I'll be fine at the end of the week.

[Jaysma]

I should have been posting here this weekend, as I needed a kick in the rear! Saturday's DD went fine until evening came, then it turned into a UD I thought no problem, I'll just make Sunday a DD. Well, the same thing happened. Was fine until about 9pm, then it turned into another UD. I kept it lc (nuts & jerky), but the calories put me over the edge. I should have just went to bed when I felt the "munchie itch" coming.

Today WILL be a DD for me. Hope everyone had a better weekend food-wise than I did!

[Redeemed]

morning001.gif Good morning everyone. So, I'm another who gave myself en extra UD this weekend?! It felt good and I'm glad I did. Now I'm supercharged to make this week a good UD/DD rotation. I love JUDDD better than anyother plan I have been on. No dredding Thanksgiving or Christmas - I'll just make them an UD. I love the food on LC and can have them everyother day if I want - it's the best of both worlds! So, Leo has lost almost 50 lbs! She has such a slow metabolism. That just goes to show how determination and staying with the program has helped her. If she can do it, I can do it. Bill: I think traffic generally slows down on LCF during the weekend. I enjoy your postings - and everyone elses.

[Leo41]

Crystal-

Not just you! I've posted here before how whenever I'm even slightly ill, I want to eat everything in the world (and usually do). I attribute it to feeling sorry for myself, but whatever the reason, that's how I always react to illness. I grew up with an older brother (by 15 mos) who was exactly the opposite. At the first sign of even the slightest cold, he completely lost his appetite and stopped eating until he was well. I always wished I could be like that. Just recently I read somewhere that for cold or flu, not eating solid food at all but just drinking a lot of fluids is the best thing. Perhaps when I'm sick next, I can try that. Hope you're better soon.

Jaysma-

The thing that saves me on DDs is my stubbornness. I rarely eat after
4 pm, so that unless I'm asleep, I'll get hungry about 9 or so, but I tell myself that I'm not going to ruin the day by eating when the morning will come soon enough. If you think about food, you'll be hungry, but I've found that if I say to myself, "I'll eat [whatever food I'm craving] tomorrow," then it helps banish the hunger. Most often, the next day I don't even want what I've craved that night. JUDDD has shown me how much of my 'hunger' is purely psychological and much of it is more 'habit' than hunger.

[nitenurse]

Here to agree with everything everybody said.lol. I think the liquids when you are ill is a good idea, I never could figure out the " feed a cold, starve a fever" or was it the other way around?
Starting another DD, after trying to manage several days away from home. I usually play music for 3 dances a month, turns out to be 5 in 10 days this month. Which is fine, except I am away from home and trying to figure out what I can do. I think on the DDs when I am out of town I will just have a couple shakes early and try to find a less than 500cal meal somewhere. Maybe Subway, I think they have salads???? Even thought McDs and throw away the bun might come out to be about that. I also have to drive home late, and I am kind of scared to go all day without eating and then deal with traffic.
Sorry if I am kind of mumbling to myself. But luckily, JUDDD is very forgiving of all the Medium days I did over the last 4 days, today the scale was even down a little. This is the best way to live!!!

[mistydisa]

Nitenurse: I had McDonald's yesterday for a DD as I was out shopping all day. I don't do LC, so I had a McChicken sandwich (360 cal) and a Diet Coke. Actually, there are a few sandwiches on the menu that come in under 500 calories, surprisingly enough!

I need to add my name to the "weekend cheaters list", lol. Saturday was supposed to be a DD, but it turned into an UD. My willpower and resolve seem to be waivering some now that I've lost some weight. You'd think it'd be the other way around! I've heard many others say the same thing, so this must be a common phenomenon.

[Leo41]

Nitenurse-

Although I now rarely eat out, when I was working, I'd regularly have the McDonald's broiled chicken salad. If you get their low fat balsamic vinegarette dressing (Newman's and delicious), the entire think comes in at 300 cal. It's very filling, and the chicken provides about 30g of protein. Just be sure to get the broiled rather than fried chicken (they do either), and make sure they give you the correct dressing (check the bag before you leave--I've had problems with this).

[GME]

Hi folks. I'm here to try to pull off a DD today. I've been eating "general low carb" and it isn't getting me anywhere either. I think I have just been too busy and have had my mind occupied with other things.

I ran my half marathon yesterday! I went in undertrained, but I didn't quit. I crossed the finish line, they hadn't run out of medals and I didn't throw up (felt like it though just after I finished) so I'm calling it a win! Beautiful day, perfect running temps and the race was along the coast in Monterey, CA so it was absolutely fabulous. I would do it again (although that is not what I was thinking along about mile 8 or 9). Went out for lunch and paid a visit to a chocolate shop where I ate a delicious piece of chocolate covered cheesecake on a stick. Why is it food on a stick tastes so good?

Overall, I'm up about 7 lbs from my all time low. Some of that is water I always retain after a long run, but not all. I have a relatively normal schedule this week so I'm planning on MWF DDs. I just have to keep my UD mindset in order. That is always my downfall I think.

Have a great JUDDD day everyone!

[Redeemed]

GME: Congratulations on your run. I lived in Monterey when I was little. I went to Del Monte Elementary School in Monterey. I agree with you that Monterey is beautiful. Have a good DD.

[BillB]

GME...congrats your your "race" and your win (I love your definition). I think your body holds on to some extra water when it is recovering from physical stress and repairing muscle...but I am not an expert on anything! Do you get the endorphin high from a run like that?

--bill

[nitenurse]

Thanks for the Calorie tips, misty and Leo, those would work for my out of town days, I think I am going to try for medium days on weekends, if I am on the road-700-800 cals, that would about what I would have to do if and when I ever reach maintainence, anyway, so this would give me some practice.

[Ilpirata]

Originally Posted by CrystalPistol

I don't think so Bill. I believe aliens took over the planet yesterday and you were impervious to their mind control. Now we are all back to normal, YAY!!!

Had a cold this weekend and wanted to eat everything in sight. I'm not looking at the scale until Thursday. What is it about being sick that makes you feel like you're entitled to all the food in the world? Or is it just me? Probably just me.

Anyway, I'm sure I'll be fine at the end of the week.

Count me in with you and Leo. I TOTALLY want to eat when I'm sick. I did pretty well through this last cold I'm recovering from even managing a DD at home on Friday which is relatively unheard of for me. I did two UDs this weekend Sat & Sun...

Originally Posted by nitenurse

Here to agree with everything everybody said.lol. I think the liquids when you are ill is a good idea, I never could figure out the " feed a cold, starve a fever" or was it the other way around?
Starting another DD, after trying to manage several days away from home. I usually play music for 3 dances a month, turns out to be 5 in 10 days this month. Which is fine, except I am away from home and trying to figure out what I can do. I think on the DDs when I am out of town I will just have a couple shakes early and try to find a less than 500cal meal somewhere. Maybe Subway, I think they have salads???? Even thought McDs and throw away the bun might come out to be about that. I also have to drive home late, and I am kind of scared to go all day without eating and then deal with traffic.
Sorry if I am kind of mumbling to myself. But luckily, JUDDD is very forgiving of all the Medium days I did over the last 4 days, today the scale was even down a little. This is the best way to live!!!

The subway chicken salad is only like 130 cals! (not counting dressing dressing is extra)

Originally Posted by GME

Hi folks. I'm here to try to pull off a DD today. I've been eating "general low carb" and it isn't getting me anywhere either. I think I have just been too busy and have had my mind occupied with other things.

I ran my half marathon yesterday! I went in undertrained, but I didn't quit. I crossed the finish line, they hadn't run out of medals and I didn't throw up (felt like it though just after I finished) so I'm calling it a win! Beautiful day, perfect running temps and the race was along the coast in Monterey, CA so it was absolutely fabulous. I would do it again (although that is not what I was thinking along about mile 8 or 9). Went out for lunch and paid a visit to a chocolate shop where I ate a delicious piece of chocolate covered cheesecake on a stick. Why is it food on a stick tastes so good?

Overall, I'm up about 7 lbs from my all time low. Some of that is water I always retain after a long run, but not all. I have a relatively normal schedule this week so I'm planning on MWF DDs. I just have to keep my UD mindset in order. That is always my downfall I think.

Have a great JUDDD day everyone!

Welcome back this week Gina! congrats on your 1/2 marathon win. You're awesome



DD for me Today: Will do nice solid M, W, Fri DD this week... I'm all stocked up on eggs, egg whites, frozen veg, broth, almond breeze etc. so this week should be pretty easy. *fingers crossed* LOL

[Leo41]

Congratulations on the run, Gina, and welcome back to JUDDD. I came to JUDDD originally for the same reason--could no longer lose on 'general low carb.' I don't know why this works, but I'm staying with it until it stops.

I have to count on UDs, too, because I find the calories add up so very quickly. Ironically, I have an easier time managing DDs; I guess because there are so many fewer choices to deal with.

[Redeemed]

I work a very busy 10 hour shift tomorrow and when I come home we are going out to dinner to celebrate our 25th wedding anniversary. I almost feel like throwing my hands up and saying: "What's the use?" I need to eat well to get through my work day - and then celebrate? DH wants to go to a buffett - tons of calories that are impossible to count. I may order off the menu as the weight is usually listed for steak and chicken. Any suggestions? I really don't want to go around in circles with JUDDD this time.

[Ilpirata]

Originally Posted by Redeemed

I work a very busy 10 hour shift tomorrow and when I come home we are going out to dinner to celebrate our 25th wedding anniversary. I almost feel like throwing my hands up and saying: "What's the use?" I need to eat well to get through my work day - and then celebrate? DH wants to go to a buffett - tons of calories that are impossible to count. I may order off the menu as the weight is usually listed for steak and chicken. Any suggestions? I really don't want to go around in circles with JUDDD this time.

Can you go to dinner a different night? Seemslike you should get to schedule the dinner for a UD!

[Leo41]

Kisha-

Didn't Redeemed say it was an UD? I'm confused myself.

Redeemed-

If it's an UD for you, just go out and celebrate and enjoy yourself and don't count anything. I find that I need to have at least one high calorie UD a month in order to keep losing (confusing the body, I think), so I don't think it will hurt you to splurge for your anniversary.

However, if it is a DD, then I'd re-arrange my alternation to make it an UD.

[BillB]

Redeemed...I would go to dinner and have a good time, sort of decide ahead of time what level of control you want to use (LC, free-for-all, moderation, whatever) and try to stick with that. If you track, try to "estimate" your portions, and enter the data later. It's my guess that no matter what you do, the results won't be as bad as what you are fearing. JUDDD is (excuse me) deliciously forgiving. Enjoy your special evening out, but keep enough control that you still respect yourself in the morning.

--bill

[Redeemed]

Thanks Bill, Leo and Kisha: I really don't want to sit home on my 25th wedding anniversay because I'm dieting. I'll just stay clear of the potatoe and macaroni salads. I'm going to plan on having a small steak, baked potatoe, small salad and veggie No french fries. I gained one hundred pounds during this past twenty five years. I would like tomorrow to be a landmark where I can look back and say that's the time when I turned myself around and made dietary changes that seriously impacted my life for the better.

[Leo41]

Redeemed-

Just don't feel deprived with your choices. Think of it this way; that stuff you're choosing not to eat isn't good for you (in terms of health) anyway. In avoiding them, you're making a positive choice. And congratulations on your anniversary

[vanillayo]

Hi Everybody, I started JUDDD yesterday and actually found the DD to be pretty easy. I know it won't stay that way though, lol. I started out doing crack the fat loss code but it just wasn't working out. It was very hard to stay on schedule with the 6 meals. I am still going to stay low carb because I feel better with that. I was so addicted sugar and don't want to go back to that!

[Leo41]

Vanilla-

A lot of us found our way to JUDDD because what we were doing was not (or no longer was) working for us. I hope this works for you.