Nov JUDDD / Alternate Day (We can do hard things!)

[EmandM]

Great picture Kisha! You look fantastic!

[mistydisa]

Kisha, you look awesome!

[Ilpirata]

Aww Thanks you guys! Yeah... Corsets... NOT COMFORTABLE... but extremely effective! LOL.

[EmandM]

Originally Posted by Ilpirata

Aww Thanks you guys! Yeah... Corsets... NOT COMFORTABLE... but extremely effective! LOL.

That's what I say about Spanx when I need to fit into an LBD or a sleek outfit sans muffin top! lol

[Ilpirata]

Spanx: I'm a fan!

[mistydisa]

Can you find Spanx in stores? I'm thinking I could use some extra help on my cruise...

[Ilpirata]

Originally Posted by mistydisa

Can you find Spanx in stores? I'm thinking I could use some extra help on my cruise...

Spanx brand they sell at Torrid. There is also a Target brand called Assets that is more affordable and *almost* as good.

[snaggle]

Great outfit Kisha! We love dress up parties.

I bought my spanx at Nordstrom- they work well, although I have a hard time using
the bra connector things. I bought an imitation one and it isnt as good.
It wasn't the target one tho.

(t.m.i. warning) I hate peeing with spanx on- the little flap thing is lame.

[GrammyPat]

Hey gang, just checkin' in to say TGIF everyone! and how gorgeous Kisha is ...thanks Whitlin and congratulations on reaching your goal! That's encouraging news for all of us...please keep checkin' in to let us know how you're doing on maintenance and what your menus are, OK?

I was doing fantastic up until last night.....no meds except spiriva only - that is incredible by itself. I think the big factors were limited carbs and at least 6 hrs. on the CPAP (I have to take Tylenol PM at night in order to do this otherwise I wake up during the night and stay up!). But last night, I was at a committee meeting, someone brought cookies to share because she was hungry, and bam! I had to eat at least 4 of them....oh man. And then I got 5.5 hrs of CPAP...this morning I paid the price but at least I have Advair to take and I'm good to go...I can't tell you how happy I am that today is a DD so I can purge all the sugar and carbs. So even though I had an uber UD yesterday, I'm still learning about myself with this WOE. It really does make me more aware of how I am with food....and how my body reacts to different foods! The best part: one good DD and I'm back on track! Have a great weekend everyone. Looking forward to hearing from you Leo when you get back from Disney!

[PMoon]

Morning, everyone. I'm having one last cup of coffee before I finish getting ready for work. it's gonna be a long day because of a morning meeting. I have to be to work an hour earlier than usual.

It's going to be a medium day today. I started out the day with some sausage and cheese. (We are out of eggs! The horror!) Taking left-over steak and veggies for lunch. Then, I may nibble a little when I get home.

I feel a lot less sore this morning after having the day off yesterday. I alternated heating pads and ice packs on my back and I rested a LOT. So, now I am ready to get after it again!

Hope you all have a great day today.

[Ilpirata]

Originally Posted by GrammyPat

Hey gang, just checkin' in to say TGIF everyone! and how gorgeous Kisha is ...thanks Whitlin and congratulations on reaching your goal! That's encouraging news for all of us...please keep checkin' in to let us know how you're doing on maintenance and what your menus are, OK?

I was doing fantastic up until last night.....no meds except spiriva only - that is incredible by itself. I think the big factors were limited carbs and at least 6 hrs. on the CPAP (I have to take Tylenol PM at night in order to do this otherwise I wake up during the night and stay up!). But last night, I was at a committee meeting, someone brought cookies to share because she was hungry, and bam! I had to eat at least 4 of them....oh man. And then I got 5.5 hrs of CPAP...this morning I paid the price but at least I have Advair to take and I'm good to go...I can't tell you how happy I am that today is a DD so I can purge all the sugar and carbs. So even though I had an uber UD yesterday, I'm still learning about myself with this WOE. It really does make me more aware of how I am with food....and how my body reacts to different foods! The best part: one good DD and I'm back on track! Have a great weekend everyone. Looking forward to hearing from you Leo when you get back from Disney!

EXACTLY! Thats the beauty of this WOE. One good Dd and you're right back on track.

[Redeemed]

593568p887g2dyd0.gif Good morning everyone. I'm going to give JUDDD another try. I tried last February and lost twelve pounds, but then gave up. I was working straight nights (50 hours a week) at the time and it was just too difficult. I have cut back to 40 hours a week (son's college tuition finally paid off!). I only have one night shift a week which will be an UD. That way I won't be crazy tired and hungry when I get home from work in the morning. That was such a bad combination for me. I have also have been put on thyroid meds, so I am hoping the weight loss won't be such a struggle. I am going to start DD's with 500 calories for the first three weeks and see if I can loose at that pace. UD's will be 2000 calories. The reason I am coming back to JUDDD is the flexibility in choosing the foods I want to eat, and the convience during the holiday season. I also liked the way JUDDD was soooooo forgiving.

[Ilpirata]

Originally Posted by Redeemed

Attachment 25704 Good morning everyone. I'm going to give JUDDD another try. I tried last February and lost twelve pounds, but then gave up. I was working straight nights (50 hours a week) at the time and it was just too difficult. I have cut back to 40 hours a week (son's college tuition finally paid off!). I only have one night shift a week which will be an UD. That way I won't be crazy tired and hungry when I get home from work in the morning. That was such a bad combination for me. I have also have been put on thyroid meds, so I am hoping the weight loss won't be such a struggle. I am going to start DD's with 500 calories for the first three weeks and see if I can loose at that pace. UD's will be 2000 calories. The reason I am coming back to JUDDD is the flexibility in choosing the foods I want to eat, and the convience during the holiday season. I also liked the way JUDDD was soooooo forgiving.

Welcome back hon! WTG on paying off your son's tuition. Thats just huge. GREAT NEWS on the thyroid meds. As you know they don't *make* you lose weight. What they DO though is give us Hypos at least a CHANCE to succeed when we diet and exercise.

[Redeemed]

Thanks, Kisha! I remember your, Leo, and Retro's strong support the first time around. Really, how difficult is 500 calories every other day? If I work my plan diligently, it will average to 1,500 calories a day by the end of the week. I should be able to do this.

[Bengal Cat]

Kisha!!! You are stunning!!! Great pic!!!

EmandM ~ Large salads always worked well for me, gave me some 'satiety'....plus they are yummy too! When I lost my tomato/cukes plants a few months ago I also stopped my salads.....which was my 'intro to eating sloppy'....lol

Hi Redeemed! Welcome Back! I agree Juddd is flexible and it is very forgiving!!!

Hello to everyone!!! DD for me today! Going to try to hit Costco over the weekend!
Hope everyone is doing well!!!

YAY for the weekend!!!!

[caramel]

Originally Posted by Redeemed

Attachment 25704 Good morning everyone. I'm going to give JUDDD another try. I tried last February and lost twelve pounds, but then gave up. I was working straight nights (50 hours a week) at the time and it was just too difficult. I have cut back to 40 hours a week (son's college tuition finally paid off!). I only have one night shift a week which will be an UD. That way I won't be crazy tired and hungry when I get home from work in the morning. That was such a bad combination for me. I have also have been put on thyroid meds, so I am hoping the weight loss won't be such a struggle. I am going to start DD's with 500 calories for the first three weeks and see if I can loose at that pace. UD's will be 2000 calories. The reason I am coming back to JUDDD is the flexibility in choosing the foods I want to eat, and the convience during the holiday season. I also liked the way JUDDD was soooooo forgiving.

glad to have you here. I thought to stop juddd a few times too, and did but always came back for the same reasons you did.

kisha what a beautiful picture, youre georgeous.

well today is a dd for me everyone take care.

[snaggle]

Redeemed-- so glad to see you back. I love how our juddd peeps keep reappearing and coming back to the plan. I went astray for a while myself to try the eades 6week cure, but quit after 4--- did not like it!
I hope you find success with it. Glad to hear your life is less hectic.

Glad to report I have finally broken thru my 4 week stall and hit 146.5 this morning.
I had a real low dd yesterday- only a teeny bit of wine and cheese. It was my hubby's 50th birthday. I had fixed him a wonderful dinner the night before since we wanted to stick with our alternation. Tonight his mom is cooking a family dinner and he made himself a coconut cream pie. YOWZA.......................glad it's an up day.

It is interesting because I have been making these proclamations that my issue is with my up days, but after seeing success with a super low down day, I am rethinking the concept. I had a big up on Weds (2200 cal), so now I wonder if perhaps I should not worry so much about my ups and concentrate on getting my downs even lower. It isn't as if they have been high, usually between 400-450 cals. The other thing is that TOM is now almost over, and I am also almost done with the flu. Perhaps I had been retaining water. I don't know, maybe it is just my wierd bod doing its thing.


Anybody have any thoughts on this? What gives you more success--- controlling your up days or getting your down days lower?

[mistydisa]

Snaggle ~ For me, it seems the key is "true" alternation above all. Weeks where I go nuts on UDs and totally indulge in all kinds of evils but I still maintain true alternation, I'll lose, but on weeks where I have b2b UDs, it doesn't matter what my UDs or DDs look like...I know I won't lose and maybe even gain. I don't know why that is for me, because I know many of you do MWF DDs and do just fine. Maybe if I'd reign in my UDs on weeks where I can't follow true alternation, I'd do better.

Just my experiences!

[Redeemed]

873641qsfmzadxhx.gif Good morning everyone. Thank you for the warm welcome back. I weighed myself today and I weigh exactly what I did when I first started JUDDD. So I really am starting all over again. The first time around it took three weeks to lose three pounds. Now I am hoping my thyroid meds will help me lose quicker. I'm going to weigh myself every Saturday. Hope everyone has a great week.

Snaggle: What will be my victory or defeat will be how I handle my Up Days. They were my waterloo my first time around with JUDDD. Down days are easy for me to control. I'm going to work harder this time around to control my calorie intake on Up Days. I won't be doing low carb; but will not be overdoing it on carbs either. I'll probably stay on the induction schedule unless a special occasion occurs where I'll need to add an extra UD. Have a great week.

[CrystalPistol]

Originally Posted by snaggle

It is interesting because I have been making these proclamations that my issue is with my up days, but after seeing success with a super low down day, I am rethinking the concept. I had a big up on Weds (2200 cal), so now I wonder if perhaps I should not worry so much about my ups and concentrate on getting my downs even lower. It isn't as if they have been high, usually between 400-450 cals. The other thing is that TOM is now almost over, and I am also almost done with the flu. Perhaps I had been retaining water. I don't know, maybe it is just my wierd bod doing its thing.


Anybody have any thoughts on this? What gives you more success--- controlling your up days or getting your down days lower?

For me, there have been a couple of things that have helped my progress. First, I choose to have 3 UDs, 3 DDs, and a MD. Might be mental, but I seem to have better success when it goes UD MD DD and not DD MD UD.

I also noticed when I have a higher than usual UD, a DD with almost nothing for dinner (maybe a cucumber or soup or something with higher water content) can do more than correct the UD. Case in point: I had a pretty damn high UD on Thursday, so yesterday I ate about 400 cals at lunch and had a cucumber with a little ranch for dinner. I went down 4 lbs! (That was 2 lbs gained from the UD and 2 lbs actual weight lost!)

To be honest, though.. I've seen this diet correct itself in many ways. Sometimes it's lower UDs for me, and others its the DDs. I guess maintaining the average of both days is the only gaurantee.

[snaggle]

Mistydisa-- interesting point about the true alternation. I know Dr. J mentions medium days but it doesn't sound like he really has done any research into the success of his diet and whether any of the common "tweaks" help or hinder progress. I feel like our little group is more of a case study of his plan than what his book offers.
My problem with true alternation is dealing with social obligations. I was supposed to go to a dinner party tonight and was kind of worried because it really should be a down day, but the hostess cancelled at the last minute due to flu, so now I am actually happy because now I can make it a real down day. After hitting a low yesterday, I was kind of bummed that I was going to have a bad 3updayinarow weekend, but now I can stay on plan. yippee.
CP- I think you are right too, but I think the key to doing 3 UD's 3 DD's and a medium is keeping the ups and especially the medium in more control. My hunch is that if you do true alternation, perhaps it is a little more forgiving, and you can get away with a little crazier up days. Our Leo is a good example because she has always done it with a medium day, but she is also the queen of controlling calories.
Either way, I just feel happy because I am now in the throes of what I knew would be a very tough "season" and, so far, I still feel very in control and it is because I am doing JUDDD.
Last night was a family party for my hubby's 50th. It had only been 8 weeks since I had seen them all and was only 6 lbs higher at that point, but they all acted like I looked way different. It felt good because I have been so frustrated these last two months, with the whole Eades 6wkcure attempt and a changed exercise plan and all, and only having lost 6 lbs though it all, so now I am thinking that maybe I have leaned out more than what the scale shows.

[Redeemed]

Snaggle: The beauty of this plan is that it is so simple, with very few rules. The diet is so simple, I don't know how Dr. J. could do a follow up book. I would like to see his website updated though - or even finished at the least. Updated testamonies and low cal DD menus would be a nice addition to his website. He seems to have started JUDDD and disappeared. It is because I kept reading of Leo's progress that I became motivated to try again. So, we need to motivate each other.

[CrystalPistol]

snaggle, oh MAN do I agree about the social obligations. As a matter of fact, in the next two weeks, we will be having several food-related events, and I find myself having to change MWF to STT for DownDays. Man, sometimes it seems easier to just not eat. But I won't do that!

[GrammyPat]

Misty, I'm like you: I still have a hard time reigning in those UD's. It's like a food free-for-all for me. BUT, I'm doing true alternation, no MD's, and my DD calories are below 400. I used the calculator at Dr. J's website and it said 329 for the DD so that is what I use for DD's. So far this has worked better for me than having a MD or 2 UD's back-to-back. Occasionally, one of my DD's turns into an UD so I get a grip and make sure the next day is a DD and get back on track. I've lost a total of 11 pounds since mid-September. The weight is not exactly flying off, but hey! it's still coming off (especially since I'm not exercising with any regularity!). And for my age (62), I'm thrilled! I can do anything for one day, and when the DD's are really hard, I drink more liquid and have little food parties in my head about what I'm going to eat the next day! That seems to get me through the day, and other times, I'm just not that hungry. Redeemed, glad to see you're giving this WOE another try. I too, am back for the 2nd time because my UD's were so out of control and spilled over into themselves...so everyday was an UD It's going much better for me this time, so I hope it works better for you too! It took me quitting smoking 4x before it finally stuck! so I figure this is the same - each time I start something and if it doesn't "stick", I ask myself what about it did not work for me and why did I slip up; then I try to find a solution, plan for it, and try it again when I'm ready! It's all about progress, not perfection!

[Redeemed]

Thank you for the warm welcome GrammyPat. I understand the smoking scenerio. It took me five years to quit. That was thirty years ago. Today is an up day. I have it all planned out. I did some stern self-talk before getting up this morning. Last winter there was a lot of emphasis on planning here on the JUDDD thread. Planning meals for both UD and DD will be an important tool in finding success. Glad you gave JUDDD another try. I hope you find great success. When you think about it, it's a great plan. We just have to push hunger out of the way and learn to manage those up days.

[EmandM]

Originally Posted by GrammyPat

I drink more liquid and have little food parties in my head about what I'm going to eat the next day!

OMG this made me laugh so hard! I love it! I did the same thing when my dd's were lower (I am on maintenance now). I rarely ate all that I had planned during my "food party" but it helped all the same!

Just to chime in my 2 cents here from my own experience (I started JUDDD a year ago) I lost more on true rotation of alternate days as well, but most of the time social obligations got in the way and I ended up with an MD or two UD's in a row. But if you can stick with true rotation, you will most likely see faster results. However, speed wasn't an issue for me as I only had a few pounds to lose and was looking for a woe I could adopt for life.

[Agee]

So...
I've been AWOL a couple of days. I was at a conference, and I've been off-plan (I hardly think 5 UD in a row is on-plan) and last week I ate too much Halloween candy.
But before the conference and the Halloween candy I tried to "watch it" on UD, since unrestricted UD have not been working for me - 2 months on plan with only about 7 lbs loss, 5 in the first week (after vacation bloat). "Watching it" didn't do much at all - I actually went up a pound and a half that week. I know I shouldn't worry so much about weight fluctuations, but it is discouraging. It really seems like I can't make any diet work for me as written...
SO!
Tomorrow I am going back to LC, and doing JUDDD with it. And if this doesn't work then I will just give up! Seriously!
Tomorrow will be an UD, but LC (I probably should do a DD tomorrow but Weds I'm giving a big presentation and I don't want to be starving hungry then), then I'll do the alteration thing. I will ONLY deviate from this if there's some kind of event where it would be very hard not to eat LC, or not to do JUDDD. I still need some kind of flexibility.
I really, really, really want to lose weight. I went shopping today and had a look at myself in the mirrors and although I think I look ok in clothes, w/o clothes I have fat just hanging off of me. I gross myself out.
Pity party over...
A

[Glory be]

Hello everybody,
The LCF website for me is a divine intervention, I joined about a month ago, had never heard of any such thing before, and I have to say I am still gawking...wide eyed, open mouthed, reading and reading and reading.
I have read about JUDDDing in a lot of other threads, so I chose to check it out this morning.
It does sound like something I can add to my new low carbing Woe. I tried Atkins induction but wouldn't let myself go into real ketosis cos I am so afraid of ingestion huge amounts of fat, atleast not straight up...cheeses, cream etc, not for me.
My major carb weakness is sugar & flour. So now I am thinking that low carbing while JUDDDing may help lower my numbers.
I am begging for a lot of tough love and answers to my barrage of questions that will soon follow.
Thank you for this thread, lots of life changing info

[Redeemed]

Originally Posted by Glory be

Hello everybody,
The LCF website for me is a divine intervention, I joined about a month ago, had never heard of any such thing before, and I have to say I am still gawking...wide eyed, open mouthed, reading and reading and reading.
I have read about JUDDDing in a lot of other threads, so I chose to check it out this morning.
It does sound like something I can add to my new low carbing Woe. I tried Atkins induction but wouldn't let myself go into real ketosis cos I am so afraid of ingestion huge amounts of fat, atleast not straight up...cheeses, cream etc, not for me.
My major carb weakness is sugar & flour. So now I am thinking that low carbing while JUDDDing may help lower my numbers.
I am begging for a lot of tough love and answers to my barrage of questions that will soon follow.
Thank you for this thread, lots of life changing info

913901a6fm472zor.gif I hope you have an enjoyable journey with JUDDD!

[Leo41]

Hi All-

Back from Disney, and I must share my JUDDD psyche--i.e., Agee wrote about the difficulty of dealing with conferences, and that has been my experience in the past. There was no way that I stayed on any eating plan while I was traveling and at a hotel. Airports are junk food heaven.

But this time, I did exactly what I outlined to you all--even better than I thought I would! As most of you know, I do JUDDD low carb (and I don't eat dairy either). Here was my plan:

There was a special dinner planned for Thursday (arrival), and I planned to just eat my special youbars (167 cal) for breakfast and lunch, even though it was an UD for me (I knew that the alternation would not hold through the weekend). I planned to enjoy the dinner, but it turned out to be a buffet, and except for the wine I drank, I doubt that I had more than 800 cal, since most of the items were things I don't eat. I mainly had some fish and meat.

What amazed me is that I felt totally 'in control' and had no desire for the desserts or anything else I don't usually eat. I was completely satisfied and didn't feel in the least deprived.

Fri & Sat. We had a catered breakfast and lunch as part of our meetings, and the food was sensational. However, again, there wasn't much that I would eat, so my calories stayed fairly low, and I did a form of IF by not eating dinner. In the past, I never would have been able to skip dinner, but I've done it so much on DDs that it was a breeze.

Today is an UD, and I was happy when I got home at 3 pm that I could finally make my own food--had a couple of bison burgers and broccoli. I had two bars while traveling and a small bag of cashews on the plane. Overall, about 1500 cal. today, which is just slightly higher than my average UD.

I'd like to get on the scale tomorrow morning, but I think I'll wait until Tuesday (after DD tomorrow), mainly because I feel bloated from the plane/travel.

My point is that I didn't eat anything off plan, and I kept my calories low despite being away from home and surrounded by delicious (and free!) food.
Most of all, it wasn't a struggle, and I didn't feel the least big deprived. I think seeing how much slack I had in that airplane seat belt did wonders for my motivation