SEPT. JUDDD/ Alternate Day Diet

[Karenlou]

Morning all.

Mommy Gates, welcome to the judddd thread. I'm new on here too and looking forward to the support from more experienced judddders

Donia, I'm kind of new at this myself, although I have done it before and done a lot of reading on it and I'm with Kisha. Don't sweat the calories on an UD - if you're eating till you're satisfied, you shouldn't be too (ha) hungry on your DD. You can always add in some good fats if you do do want to boost your cals - olive oil, avocado, oily fish. You should be eating plenty of good fats anyway as they are good for you.

I'm on DD number two and not feeling hungry at all so far (it's 10.30am) so just drinking hot water, which sounds disgusting but I like it. Not intending to do liquids only though, so will eat my cals if I need them later.

Tomorrow will be a MD as DH and I are going out for the day on Friday and he will want to go to Pizza Express, creature of habit that he is - bless. Hence, Friday will be an UD and also my weigh-in day. Although I won't have done a full week, I still want to weigh in on a Friday as that's my usual day and Christmas Day is on a Friday this year too so I'm keeping that in mind. I have a gift voucher for Monsoon (lovely but expensive clothes shop) and I'd like to buy myself a nice dress to wear on Christmas Day

Have a good day all of you x

[Karenlou]

Hi fitchick - you posted while I was posting. Six pounds in two weeks then? Wow, excellent start, you must be pleased.

[Leo41]

Misty-

I think some of your issues are age related. That is, when I was younger, any time I was dieting, I was longing for the things I couldn't have, and if I had a plan like JUDDD in those days, I think I would have spent my UDs exactly like you--in the beginning at least.

As fitchick wisely noted, for many of us, once we realized that we could have things on UDs, we found we no longer needed to have them. Several folks found this out after a few weeks on JUDDD, some right away. So it could be just a matter of time for you until you lose the sense of deprivation and just enjoy your UDs. Perhaps if you scheduled one simple treat each UD, it might help.

Snaggle-

On practicing for eating like a 'normal' person--yesterday (UD), I had a unique experience. I wasn't hungry at lunch time (mainly because I ate a second (small) breakfast after my workout in the am), but by 3 pm, I wanted the tuna salad I'd planned for lunch--so I had it. Then, I wasn't hungry at dinner time. I had planned a fish fillet and green salad, and I had plenty of calories to spend on it (yes, I count even on UDs), but I wasn't hungry. So I reminded myself that today would be a DD, so I should stoke up tonight. I decided that was silly; let me deal with tomorrow when it comes.

So I skipped dinner--I think for the first time in my life (I do this on DDs regularly, but never before on an UD). Years ago, I worked with a thin woman who used to mention frequently that she'd skipped dinner because she was busy and not hungry, and I thought she was insane:-) I couldn't imagine doing that. I think this is all from JUDDD--I think the plan itself promotes intuitive eating.

I also think that your recent experience is much like what maintenance will be. You've noticed that even with only 2 DDs and a lot of "partying," your weight has remained fairly stable. That's what I'm hoping to achieve when I decide to maintain. I really think that DDs are the key to JUDDD.

[oobladee]

Yeah, homestretch, I can identify with so much of your post! Interesting that you said "to punish yourself". Hmmm, not sure I ever hit on that nail before! hard to beleive as much as I carry on and talk about my Eating Disorder for many years now. These days, i am a little better about not using food as anything but fuel, but right now i am in a danger period cuz DH is out of town long term - being alone on a longer term basis is a very hard place for me to be. I am very conscious of the red flag times - and I am in one right now!!!

Leo, you said a very important thing: if out of control UD seem to occur, it can be a sign that this WOE is not for you. I am already onto that...very much as a recovering binger/purger. The DD's are - or can be - a trigger for me. Anytime I greatly restrict food intake, some monster deep inside me stirs. This very reason and the way I don't seem to do this JUDD very well in times of alternate operation is why i am re-examining.


The one thing that helps me overall is accepting that obeisty is a CHRONIC disease. It is literally a dis-ease with food. I used to be terrified of eating as a matter of fact. It took many years to not be afraid of eating (good nutrient dense food, of course - we should all be a-skeered of the crappy things like candy, chips, etc).

So, now my challenge to manage this dis-ease is to manage my food. My aging body does not need that much food any more - and I have to get my head/body around that. The chronic piece means we, I really, cannot ever take my eyes off it. I need to find the line of being obsessed with all this to where i am responsible.

[oobladee]

Here is a copied piece by a very inspirational person on another board i go to:

The Best Advice:

I've had some success-- I suppose I can admit as much at this point, although it feels weird. So now I get a lot of people who PM asking for advice, or saying they look up to me, and flattering though that is, it's silly, because I pretty much just follow the rules (okay, the ones that make sense) and it all comes out in the wash. So I usually don't have much to add when people ask how you get where I have gotten, there's no great mystery: the reason I have been successful in some ways that others have failed I usually pass off as luck.

But that's not entirely true. I just realized it. There actually *is* one more piece, and because I love ya, I am going to share it with you now. Sounds trifling, but it contains volumes.

Here it is: YOU CAN do hard things.

I know, you're saying, "What's your point?"

Sometimes, when faced with a challenge-- especially if you're a recovering addict as so many of us are, when you approach something difficult, your inner voice says, "Holy crap-- I can't DO that"...and you do an about-face-- you reach for the drug (or Ring Ding) of choice. To feel uncomfortable..and not to comfort yourself, is a hard thing --

but you can do hard things.

When it's late and you're tired, and you know you are supposed to walk, you said you would, and it's looking like it might rain-- it's hard as hell to lace those sneakers up and get out there---

but you can do hard things.

Protein shakes can taste yucky. It's hard to remember all those calcium supplements. It's hard to get 64 oz of water in. It's hard to plan meals, buy expensive and healthy choices, stay out of the cake in the lounge at work--

but you can do hard things.

You don't have to self-medicate. You don't have to eat those chips. You don't have to duck and avoid every unpleasant, difficult challenge in your path. Sometimes, the best bet is to admit their existance..."Yes, hard things, I see you trying to get in my way, but you know what? I CAN DO HARD THINGS!"

Sometimes this means having to survive a host of feelings you never felt before because you never let yourself feel them before-- stress, confusion, anger, rage. You can't numb them out or sand off their edges-- you have to stand right in your space and let them have a go at you-- and grit your teeth, and say to yourself, "Go ahead, get in my way. I'll get through this. I can do hard things."

And you will find that you will survive them. And as you survive them, you will face new ones, standing a little taller, because in time you will eventually understand and rely on the fact that you can do hard things. And eventually the "pass me some Ben and Jerry's--my boss is a jackass" response gives way to something new-- something that sounds more like this:

"Go ahead, Boss, bring it on. I'll have that on your desk by five."
"No thanks, Nancy, it's gorgeous but I really can't have an eclair right now."
"I guess I could just park back there and walk."
"It's only 8 ounces and I don't have to love the stuff, I'll just drink it quickly."
"If I spend ten minutes planning now, I won't be faced with tough choices later."

[NoSugarShell]

Good Morning JUDDDers!!

I am still here lurking in lurkdom. I am still JUDDDing although struggling. I am certain it's thyroid related. I have just recently switched over to synthetics and I am thinking there will be an adjustment period. I hope it gets better as my appetite is out of control and I am still sooo tired. I want to get back to normal. So, I continue to just try to do the best I can right now.

[homestretch]

Just wanted to check in this am and tell everyone that I am down 2 pounds!!!! And TOM cam this morning so I typically have water weight but thought I would get on the scale anyway. I am just shocked to say the least. I have lots more to share but have to head out the door for my Dr's appt. I will check in later.

**Leo**Thank you! I will request those specific tests.

[Karenlou]

Well done on the 2lbs off, homestretch!

[Leo41]

Oobladee-

I fully agree that if you identify DDs as a 'trigger,' you should re-think JUDDD. I read somewhere (I don't remember where) that JUDDD is a poor choice for anyone with a history of EDs because the alternate days can easily bring on the binge/purge mentality.

I, too, am struggling with the issue of weight and age, and I'd like to suggest you take a look at Protein Power (Drs. Eades). When I was having difficulty losing on standard low carb, I used PP for a while, and it was really effective. I still use those principles while on JUDDD--i.e., focusing on getting sufficient protein.

Thanks for that post about 'hard things.' That's exactly what JUDDD did for me. The very first DD when I ate only 400 cal, I woke up the next morning and said, "Wow." I had eaten much less than I thought possible and didn't die from it!

That's what has kept me going when some DDs were more difficult. I'd say to myself, "You've done this before, and you survived, so you can do it now."
This has kept me on plan throughout some rough periods. JUDDD has given me a sense of power over food for the first time in my life.

But as I said earlier, because JUDDD works for me that doesn't mean it will work for everyone.

[kind]

Yesterday was first day on Judd.Dd. dropped 3lbs. as of today.
Ud but going to up my calaries higher then I used too.
Next weigh in Friday.

[Ilpirata]

Morning JUDDers...
I'm still on my break.
I decided to get real with my siggy weight as I haven't seen the 188 I was claiming since June.

[Dreamtrue]

I think I'm going to start this again except I'm going to low carb it. I tried JUDD last time without regard to carbs/fat etc and did not do so well. But I've been low carbing mostly vlc for the past two weeks (have only lost 2lbs), and I don't feel those some ravenous cravings. Today is a down day which I think should be easy as I'm not hungry. When I started LCF in 2007, I lost almost 60lbs but I have gained 30lbs since last year. I really would like to get these 30lbs off before winter.

[NoSugarShell]

Originally Posted by Ilpirata

Morning JUDDers...
I'm still on my break.
I decided to get real with my siggy weight as I haven't seen the 188 I was claiming since June.

Hey Kisha - I am going to get really with my siggy tommorrow morning after a DD. I have been hanging about 3 lbs above and haven't actually seen the 115.6 for awhile....gulp! It's time.

[Karenlou]

Brave souls all, updating that sig!

Kind, well done on dropping 3lbs and welcome back to dreamtrue.

My DD hasn't gone quite to plan. I had:
- Alpen Light bar - 60cals
- roasted pepper soup - 80cals
- bread - 100 cals
- packet of cheese curls - 90 cals
- brioche roll (aargh!) - 200 cals

So 530 in total. Could be worse but certainly could have been better! MD tomorrow and weigh-in on Friday.

[donia]

Thanks, everyone, for all of the advice and homestretch, congratulations on the pounds lost!!

Karenlou, I liked your "ha" in there. hehe Also, I think 530 is great for a down day. I wouldn't feel bad about that at all! I usually shoot for 500, but as long as I stay under 600, I'm not too upset with myself. I used to even have some days where I would do 300 or less.

[Leo41]

Rhonda-

Yes, I think you'll do best with JUDDD if you're low carbing. I was low carbing before I came to JUDDD and have kept to low carb, and, quite honestly, I wouldn't have been able to survive DDs if I didn't have the appetite suppression of low carb.

I've also found that after a while on JUDDD, if I happened to have a high-carb UD, I didn't immediately get that appetite back as when I was doing standard low carb. That means I can go on vacation and eat carefully because my appetite won't surge after an ice-cream cone!

[dasiey]

Hi just checking in. still holding at 142. Still doing juddd/Lc

[mammapo]

Originally Posted by mistydisa

Mammapo ~ Maybe it is all the years of dieting and being so restricted that is making me feel like letting loose so much on UDs. I (along with half of the U.S., it seems) did the fat-free craze years ago. Keep in mind when I say years ago, I mean when I was in 6th grade - high school (I'm 29 now). I have literally struggled with my weight my entire life. I kept myself to a strict 20 grams of fat/day, usually never exceeding 10 grams, though. And this I did BY MYSELF. I heard someone talking on TV one day about how you can lose weight by keeping fat grams below 20 (looking back now, I believe this person may have been referring to saturated fats, but I didn't know the difference back then), so I "made up" my own diet plan around that. I lost weight and felt pretty good about myself back then. I weighed 129 when I graduated. Looking back at pics now, I realize I looked fantastic, but I always felt like I wanted to lose more back then. I was a *gasp* size 7 while all my girlfriends were 2's... Anyway, I can distinctly recall fantasizing--literally FANTASIZING--about all the things I would eat if I could have just one day to eat what I wanted.... I would dream of biscuits and gravy, Big Macs, fries, etc..... I started college, gained weight. Got married when I finished college, gained more weight. I eventually tried Atkins (again, as half of America did, it seems). I lost some, but again, felt super restricted. I know a lot of you are diehard low carbers, and that's great if it feels good to you, but it never did for me.

In 2006, I started taking Phentermine and writing down every single morsel I put in my mouth. I lost 50 lbs. in about 6 months. I went on a cruise and gained 20 back, then got pregnant and gained 55 more. Pregnancy was one of the happiest times in my life because I felt like it was okay to eat what I wanted. I was pregnant and "supposed" to eat a lot and have crazy cravings for chocolate and such. And I never felt like anyone judged me because I was eating. It was a very liberating feeling....

Sorry to ramble, but by typing this, I've realized that this is probably where my issues stem from. I'm going to do some more soul-searching.... On a good note, though, I "practiced" eating to ONLY satisfaction today, and I did great! It feels good to listen to your body!

can I just say I love you????????

If I were physically present I'd wipe a few tears from my eyes, give you a big squeezy hug and proclaim us sistas by another mista!

I'm so proud of you for opening up - this whole WOE has forced me to confront the 'where did it start' - and I was shocked to realize how young my disordered thinking started. I'm sure you're going through the same thing.

Feeling judged for eating is the worst. feeling like everyone makes value judgments on your character and self control because of weight is painful too. I know, because I have been there and done that.

You've got a great group of efriends here - we will be here for you through the whole self-examination process. I KNOW that we will come out of this healthier and more self-aware

[Trishagrrl]

Good afternoon JUDDDers

I've been sticking to JUDDD, but just the same ole' same ole' for me. This is a DD for me, and I'm REALLY hungry today! I've had 100 calories so far today and I know it's going to be tough to stick to it. Monday I only had 250 calories all day and it didn't seem to be that difficult of a day. I think it's funny how some DD's are so easy and others are so hard.

I already know that I'm not going to be JUDDDing this weekend. I'll probably try to pull off a couple of MD's but I'm not going to beat myself up if I can't manage it. I have family coming into town LATE tonight and will be with me until Tuesday. We're going up to some cabins Friday-Monday with a bunch of aunt's, uncle's, and cousins. I haven't lost any weight in so long it doesn't bother me much. I'm just really hoping after my long weekend my weight will bounce back to where it's been. Thankfully, I also have an apt with another doctor in less than two weeks. I'm hoping he'll tweek my thyroid meds and that might help get me losing again.

Leo- Congrats on the 3 pound weight loss - 3 pounds in a week is amazing! Your diligence is to be admired. I just love reading your posts, they're filled with such great insights.

WELCOME to all the newbies!

[mammapo]

Originally Posted by Trishagrrl

Good afternoon JUDDDers

I've been sticking to JUDDD, but just the same ole' same ole' for me. This is a DD for me, and I'm REALLY hungry today! I've had 100 calories so far today and I know it's going to be tough to stick to it. Monday I only had 250 calories all day and it didn't seem to be that difficult of a day. I think it's funny how some DD's are so easy and others are so hard.

I already know that I'm not going to be JUDDDing this weekend. I'll probably try to pull off a couple of MD's but I'm not going to beat myself up if I can't manage it. I have family coming into town LATE tonight and will be with me until Tuesday. We're going up to some cabins Friday-Monday with a bunch of aunt's, uncle's, and cousins. I haven't lost any weight in so long it doesn't bother me much. I'm just really hoping after my long weekend my weight will bounce back to where it's been. Thankfully, I also have an apt with another doctor in less than two weeks. I'm hoping he'll tweek my thyroid meds and that might help get me losing again.

Leo- Congrats on the 3 pound weight loss - 3 pounds in a week is amazing! Your diligence is to be admired. I just love reading your posts, they're filled with such great insights.

WELCOME to all the newbies!

a super hard DD is a sign of a bigger loss coming. Your body is warning you it's going to dip into fat reserves....

Remember that, and EMBRACE the hunger!!!!!

[Trishagrrl]

Originally Posted by mammapo

a super hard DD is a sign of a bigger loss coming. Your body is warning you it's going to dip into fat reserves....

Remember that, and EMBRACE the hunger!!!!!

I sure hope that's true, but I haven't had any loss in 3 months despite the super hard DD's. I'm going hope you're right this time though!

[homestretch]

Finally got the chance to really sit and read all the Sept. posts.

Welcome to the newbies!

**Misty**Your post really touched me. It is so sad what we put ourselves through as children trying to lose weight and conform to societies standards. I got in on the lowfat trend in my late teens and early 20's (I am 40). My thing in HS was starvation. I kept my weight off by eating 300 calories a day. I remember reading a Good Housekeeping article in HS about Melissa Gilbert and she said she stayed slim eating 500 calories a day. I figured if she could do 500, I could do 300. I was always sick and I had bruises from head to toe. My mom took me to the doctor because if someone so much as touched my arm, it would leave a finger inprinted bruise on my me. Of course I lied and said I was fine and they dismissed it by saying I bruised easy. I have a 16 year old daughter now and it would horrify me if she did the things I did to lose weight. She has always been thin and she has an amazing figure yet in the last year she complains that she is fat. I wish I knew what it was that made girls/women so body conscious when for the most part men seem to be fine with whatever shape they are. I do believe it is cultural but cannot help but believe it is programmed in us to be self critical.

**Leo and Kisha** I got the free T3 and T4 tests at the doc today and she is sending me a copy of the lab report so I am anxious to get the results.

I am sticking to my modified JUDDD. The last two weeks I have lost 2 pounds a week and I have been having one super high carb/calorie day a week. This worked for me when I was trying to reach goal the first time. I do not know why it works for me but it seems to rev me up and my body lets go of weight. I am pretty careful the rest of the week with my calories and carbs. My high day is actually the most torturous day of the week because eating carbs makes me feel yuck but it makes the rest of the week feel easy. The day after my high day I cannot wait to eat right again. Another change that I think may be working for me is that while I keep my carbs under control, I quit restricting them so much. I added back in low carb tortilla's, more veggies, natural peanut butter and a couple pieces of fruit in a week. I MUST remember that going too low on the carbs keeps me from losing. I have proven this to myself multiple times but somehow I lose track and think I should go VLC or ZC and it does not work for me!!!! I need to set a reminder to tell myself that over and over and over!!! lol!
Have a good evening!

[Leo41]

Trish-

I really admire you for sticking to DDs even though you're not losing. I'm convinced that it has to be your thyroid because even if you were resistent to losing because of nursing, JUDDD is so extreme that the scale would move just a little. If your T3 is low, it's really impossible to lose from my experience. But just think that if you weren't eating so carefully, you'd surely be gaining, so maintaining is at least the lesser of two evils.

Homestretch-

I don't know about carbs, but I'm convinced that there's something to a high calorie day each week. When I began JUDDD, I was super careful of calories all the time, and I lost regularly and slowly--and was satisfied because I had been stalled for so long. Then two weeks in a row, I had a super high calorie day on the weekend (unplanned), and I was shocked that I lost more weight those weeks than I had been doing previously. I'm afraid to do this on a regular basis (for fear I'll suddenly start gaining), but I also don't agonize if I wind up having a high calorie day once in a while--on an UD of course.

[dasiey]

Trish, I was also not losing went about well at least 2 mts. not losing. so I am doing Juddd/Lc and I have started losing again. I eat mostly eggs on dds and other LC foods on uds I dropped 2 pounds right away. I am going to try and stick with this for awhile and then take the LC part off and go back to what I was doing before.

[mistydisa]

Mammapo ~ You are so sweet! I can't express how much I appreciate your kind words. right back to you! It is a terrible feeling to be judged based on one's weight. I'll never forget how one girl at work was AMAZED to learn that I exercised regularly; her exact words were, "Oh, I guess I just assumed because you're so big, you wouldn't exercise." Ouch. I guess fat automatically = lazy.

Homestretch ~ Sounds like you had a very similar childhood experience. I hope your daughter learns to love her body... I have a 19 month old, and I'm always telling my husband that I need to get the weight off NOW because I don't want her to see Mommy always on a diet. I also desperately want to teach her healthy eating habits in the hopes that she doesn't have to go through being heavy. There's a part of me that resents my parents for "letting" me get so heavy so young. My mom worked 2nd shift for a long time, so we depended on fast food a lot for supper. What makes me angry now is that I was allowed to order 2 Big Macs! No ten year old needs 2 Big Macs! When I mentioned it to my parents recently, they said, "Well, we couldn't let you go hungry!" I just let it go, but I feel like they should've made me order a smaller sandwich (and only 1), and if I was still hungry after eating it, I could've had a piece of fruit or something.

Again, here I go rambling... lol. Hope everyone has a great day!

[oobladee]

Originally Posted by mistydisa

Mammapo ~ You are so sweet! I can't express how much I appreciate your kind words. right back to you! It is a terrible feeling to be judged based on one's weight. I'll never forget how one girl at work was AMAZED to learn that I exercised regularly; her exact words were, "Oh, I guess I just assumed because you're so big, you wouldn't exercise." Ouch. I guess fat automatically = lazy.

Homestretch ~ Sounds like you had a very similar childhood experience. I hope your daughter learns to love her body... I have a 19 month old, and I'm always telling my husband that I need to get the weight off NOW because I don't want her to see Mommy always on a diet. I also desperately want to teach her healthy eating habits in the hopes that she doesn't have to go through being heavy. There's a part of me that resents my parents for "letting" me get so heavy so young. My mom worked 2nd shift for a long time, so we depended on fast food a lot for supper. What makes me angry now is that I was allowed to order 2 Big Macs! No ten year old needs 2 Big Macs! When I mentioned it to my parents recently, they said, "Well, we couldn't let you go hungry!" I just let it go, but I feel like they should've made me order a smaller sandwich (and only 1), and if I was still hungry after eating it, I could've had a piece of fruit or something.

Again, here I go rambling... lol. Hope everyone has a great day!

Ouch is right!!!! I wish i had a nickel for every time I would mention my running (back when I used to run) and the other persons eyes would travel down my soft body...I knew they did not believe a word.

I cannot gauge how many years it took me to accept this body of mine - not built for speed, but it is all mine and i do love what it tries to deliver to me. I love my strength and endurance. I love my endless energy.

I chalk that up to the media - again - all the info-mercials on thighmasters/treadmills...all the actors are so lithe and awesome. I don't look like that, never did, likely never will, and it's ok.

[oobladee]

Originally Posted by Leo41

Oobladee-

I fully agree that if you identify DDs as a 'trigger,' you should re-think JUDDD. I read somewhere (I don't remember where) that JUDDD is a poor choice for anyone with a history of EDs because the alternate days can easily bring on the binge/purge mentality.

I, too, am struggling with the issue of weight and age, and I'd like to suggest you take a look at Protein Power (Drs. Eades). When I was having difficulty losing on standard low carb, I used PP for a while, and it was really effective. I still use those principles while on JUDDD--i.e., focusing on getting sufficient protein.

Thanks for that post about 'hard things.' That's exactly what JUDDD did for me. The very first DD when I ate only 400 cal, I woke up the next morning and said, "Wow." I had eaten much less than I thought possible and didn't die from it!

That's what has kept me going when some DDs were more difficult. I'd say to myself, "You've done this before, and you survived, so you can do it now."
This has kept me on plan throughout some rough periods. JUDDD has given me a sense of power over food for the first time in my life.

But as I said earlier, because JUDDD works for me that doesn't mean it will work for everyone.

Leo, thanks a bunch!!! I have read Eades online and so I will get that book from the library just to glean more!

i do eat moderate fat and lots of protein. As you know it has come down, simply, to eating less. Period. All about the calories. The protein/fat does help me feel less starving.

mentally i have become comfortable with eating good nutritious food and lots less of the not so good. It is continually rough to eat as little and as carefully as I do 90% of the time with not much pay-off. As has been said here and many other places, I try to stay with the goal while focusing on what is positve. I am chubby, certainly. I have tons of energy and can do lots of activities every day to stay limber and strong.

[kaylowe]

Originally Posted by oobladee

Ouch is right!!!! I wish i had a nickel for every time I would mention my running (back when I used to run) and the other persons eyes would travel down my soft body...I knew they did not believe a word.

I cannot gauge how many years it took me to accept this body of mine - not built for speed, but it is all mine and i do love what it tries to deliver to me. I love my strength and endurance. I love my endless energy.

I chalk that up to the media - again - all the info-mercials on thighmasters/treadmills...all the actors are so lithe and awesome. I don't look like that, never did, likely never will, and it's ok.

Funny you should mention that, obladee - they don't look like that, either!! You know what I mean??

[dasiey]

[QUOTE=mistydisa;12433043]Mammapo ~ You are so sweet! I can't express how much I appreciate your kind words. right back to you! It is a terrible feeling to be judged based on one's weight. I'll never forget how one girl at work was AMAZED to learn that I exercised regularly; her exact words were, "Oh, I guess I just assumed because you're so big, you wouldn't exercise." Ouch. I guess fat automatically = lazy.



Misty
Some people don't think before they speak.
I suppose she was skinny. and thinks she doesn't need to exercise.

[mistydisa]

Originally Posted by dasiey

Misty
Some people don't think before they speak.
I suppose she was skinny. and thinks she doesn't need to exercise.

You nailed it.