August's Uber-Hot JUDDDDers!

[weasel!]

Welcome to August JUDDDD!

(also know as Dr. Johnson's Up Day Down Day Diet or The Alternate Day Diet)

The following is quoted from Dr. Johnson's web site.

Getting Started

There are two phases: weight loss and maintainance. To lose weight, calorie intake on the “down” day is limited to 20% to 35% of daily calorie requirement, although it is strongly recommended that calories be below 25% when starting a weight loss diet. To maintain weight loss and for optimal health, down day intake is kept at 50% to 60% of calorie needs.

Use the following tool (go to Dr JOhnsons website for this) to calculate the down day calorie requirements. There is a strong tendency for overweight individuals to overestimate the "Activity" level, thereby allowing themselves high calorie allowance on the down day. To avoid this problem, for the first two weeks, you should consume no more than 500 calories on the down day regardless of your activity level.

Please google Dr. Johnsons site to find the Up Day Down Day Calorie Calculator

*This calculator provides an estimate of your calorie requirement so that you can determine your down day calories. The "Normal Calories" shown may be more or less than you actually feel like eating on the up day. The important principle is to adhere to the down day calorie limit as closely as possible. You do not have to eat all the calories shown as "Normal Calories".


Hunger Management

The key to success on the down day is learning what works for you. Remember that you can eat tomorrow. The book will detail useful techniques for down day hunger management.


Diet Stress

Other diets require daily reduction in calorie intake or limit the type of food eaten. This requires intricate meal plans and menus, cooking separate meals, and often more expensive foods. This wastes a lot of time and creates great stress. With the Johnson UpDayDownDay Diet™, you are allowed to eat whatever you want on the up day and your choices are greatly simplified on the down day, markedly reducing stress.


Energy level/mood

We have observed a consistent, measurable dramatic increase in energy level which is noticeable within 7-10 days which peaks around three weeks on the diet. This is consistent with animal studies in calorie restriction. This is a desirable and reinforcing sensation which encourages you to keep going.



The Up Day

On the up day, you can eat anything you want and as much as you want, but do not intentionally over eat.

When starting out, it is important to not concern yourself with up day calorie intake because of the phenomena of diet stress and diet fatigue. Focus on staying under 20-25% on the down day.

Based on animal research, the type of food eaten on the up day is unimportant compared to adhering to the down day calorie limit. This will activate genes (SIRT1) which set in motion the beneficial processes which produce optimal health.

The Down Day

It is important to commit in advance to a certain number of calories on the down day. We strongly suggest 20 – 25% for the first two weeks, but find that 30 - 35% is more tolerable for some people for a prolonged period of dieting. The lower the calories on the down day, the better, but the most important thing is to find a caloric intake you can comply with on ongoing basis.

We strongly suggest using only commercially prepared shakes in the first two weeks. Later, prepared foods with the calorie content marked on them can be eaten.. This is critically important to help guard against the universal tendency to underestimate how much we are eating.

Body Weight

How much you lose depends on several factors, the average in our study was 2.5 pounds per week, more the first week or two.

You should weigh yourself only on the morning after a down day and not more often than once a week or fluctuations will lead to frustration.

Down Day Recipes

It is important to choose a shake which is personally tolerable and satisfying. There are a number on the market including Atkins Advantage, Slim Fast Optima, MetRx. For weight loss diet, it is highly advisable that for the first two weeks, you consume only shakes on the down day.

Delicious, easy, very low calorie recipes are available in the soon to be published book, The Johnson UpDayDownDay Diet™.

What People On The Diet Have To Say
“I will never diet any other way. I lost 30 pounds three years ago which I have kept off without the awful feeling of being on the diet.” – Heidi P.
“There was never a time in my entire life when I wasn’t wheezing from asthma until after being on the diet for two weeks.” – Theresa G.
“I couldn’t walk 50 feet without resting. After three weeks on the diet, I spent all day walking around the shopping mall.” – Ellen M.
“My rheumatoid arthritis got better 31 days after starting the diet.” – Judy L.

For more information, visit Dr. Johnson's website, or read his book,
"The Alternate-Day Diet: Turn on Your 'Skinny Gene,' Shed the Pounds, and Live a Longer and Healthier Life."

[Ricci_DOLL]

I'm here to get Uber hot in August!

CONGRATS on the lost weasel!

[NoSugarShell]

I wanna get uber hot too!!

[Leo41]

Thanks for getting us started in the new month, Vesna. And CONGRATULATIONS on the 138. I know how frustrated you've been, so I'm glad to see it's working for you.


About resveritrol--I know that Dr. J recommends it, but I did some research on it a while back, and the consensus was that there was no known amount that had been tested as helpful. It seemed that taking it would be "a shot in the dark" in terms of benefits, so I decided against it. I take supplements of fish oil, Vt. D, Centrum silver, biotin, and now taurene, so I didn't want to add anything else.

[nitenurse]

How about a "Not So Hot" thread (snicker). I would join if anyone put one up lol.,

[cagmom]

Hope everyone finds a this great steamy hot days of summer, where the weigh-ins are downward and our health has improved. To think,When the summer is hot I'm more to drink fluids than eat less. I tend to find salads mixed with fruits very refreshing.

Going back to the Buick open will see you tomorrow.

[dasiey]

hope eveyone is having a gr8 weekend.

[scandalouslyglam]

Hey I'm August and I'm uber-hot IN August...how cool is that?

Today is official DD#2, I had a terrific UD yesterday. Surprisingly I didn't go overboard, either. I was prepared for it. But I ate until satisfied and that was that. I did have several margaritas and they were terrific.

I was telling my mom about this eating plan and she seemed skeptical. I'm gonna let her read the book it really cleared things up for me.

Weasel, congrats on the lowest weight ever!!! That is awesome! I cannot wait to just be under 200. I'm not asking for miracles...just 199 ya know?

Have a great day everyone!!

[Leo41]

Today was a scheduled "medium" day for me, and it worked out that way. When I first started JUDDD, this was the most difficult day (because I try to keep M,W,F DDs for convenience). It would almost always become an UD before I knew it. But for the past two months, I'm finding myself able to keep the calories down.

Tomorrow is my regular DD, and for the first time, I have a business meeting that includes lunch. I could make it another MD, but I'm hoping to just have a big salad and keep it as a DD. Usually I eat the most by noon (often don't eat later in the day), so it won't be difficult to end my eating for the day with lunch.

Yesterday and today, I made a big pot of homemade chicken broth, and then I pureed the vegetables (onion, celery, zucchini, and some broccoli) and added the puree to thicken the soup. This will make a great DD 'supper' for a few weeks for only about 60 cal for a bowl. I have enough to freeze some for the future as well.

I can only cook like this on an UD. I don't know how those of you who have to prepare meals for a family manage a DD! I'd have to give them take out:-)

[Lucianna]

Hello JUDDers!

After lots and lots of research (where I found your threads incredibly helpful, so thankyou muchly!) I've decided to lose some weight JUDD-style!

I did something very similar a couple of years ago and lost about 25kg. I reckon that coupling very low carb, with JUDDing should produce some drastic results.

I'm a pharmacist by trade, and I realise that very rapid weightloss is not ideal or possibly sustainable in the long run, but I'm also realistic and honest enough with myself to know that I am not patient enough to wait around! I love seeing changes on that scale or I easily give up

I've never been to a wedding before and my first will be on October 17th. Ideally I would love to lose 15kgs (30 lbs ??) and I've done more before so I can do it again!
I attempted a very very half hearted low carb regimen last week and still managed to lose 1.2 kg (2.64lbs?). Haha, this week involved three days of proper induction, one day of a cookie/fruitcake/bottle of wine binge , a day of indian food and custard slice bingeing, and a day where I ate a WHOLE chicken (it was small, but a whole chicken nonetheless!), a bite of HJ's burger and lots of KFC chips.
What I did notice though was that on all of my naughty day binges, I had fasted (unintentionally!) all day and broke my fast with the binges at about 6PM.

My plan is to have coffee with cream on my DD and to eat low carb on my UD. The purpose of the cream/coffee is to integrate Dr Atkins Fat Fast into my DD. Has anyone ever tried this or anything similar?

I would love any support or tips you guys might have! So many of you sound like you've been doing this for ages with great success!

Thanks again!

XX

[dasiey]

Lucianna

[Ricci_DOLL]

Hi Lucianna! I have been thinking of limiting my DD intake to hard boiled eggs & coffee. DD tommorrow...remembering that i can eat Tuesday.

[LBishop]

Originally Posted by NoSugarShell

I wanna get uber hot too!!

You already ARE uber hot, Michelle!

[scandalouslyglam]

So, how do you manage a Down Day with JUST coffee? I am SURE I would rip someone's head right off. All I thought about yesterday was FOOD.

I made a batch of the Summer squash soup from Dr.J's Book and it was AWESOME!! (1 small carton Low sodium chix broth, 1 can diced tomatos-I used the kind with chiles, 1 choped summer squash, 1 chopped zucchini, 1 stalk chopped celery. Simmer 15 minutes then puree 2 cups in blender add back to soup heat through and enjoy!!)I had it for supper and I did not feel the least bit deprived. Perhaps as time goes on I will get use to DD's, this was only my 2nd REAL down day.

[Leo41]

Lucianna-

I would never recommend setting extreme weight loss goals because my own experience is that my body doesn't cooperate--and then I get depressed. My only goals are related to staying on plan, both with food and exercise.

I fully understand your desire to lose quickly, but in my old age I've come to believe that health is more important than weight. One of the problems I've observed about JUDDD is that the plan tends to attract those who want to go to extremes, but I think the plan works best when done in moderation.

Everyone I've ever known who went to extremes in dieting gained the weight back very quickly because it's a natural psychological reaction to want to 'compensate' for all that suffering to get to x weight. My own sister, way back in the 1970s when she needed to lose about 50 lbs had her jaw wired shut by a dentist (it was quite the fad at the time) for about 5 months! She lost the weight, and regained it (and more) almost as quickly. Can you imagine the suffering of those 5 months with her jaw wired shut? And she says that she was determined, absolutely, to make this her last diet and NEVER regain. But it happens.

[dasiey]

Originally Posted by scandalouslyglam

So, how do you manage a Down Day with JUST coffee? I am SURE I would rip someone's head right off. All I thought about yesterday was FOOD.

I made a batch of the Summer squash soup from Dr.J's Book and it was AWESOME!! (1 small carton Low sodium chix broth, 1 can diced tomatos-I used the kind with chiles, 1 choped summer squash, 1 chopped zucchini, 1 stalk chopped celery. Simmer 15 minutes then puree 2 cups in blender add back to soup heat through and enjoy!!)I had it for supper and I did not feel the least bit deprived. Perhaps as time goes on I will get use to DD's, this was only my 2nd REAL down day.

its really not that hard. Just keep busy. I never go to the grocery store. and I try to stay away from the kitchen as much as possible. and sometimes I'm just not that hungry.

[weasel!]

Lucianna, do you mean you're planning to have only coffee with cream all day? Interesting.

According to ******, 13 ounces of cream is about 500 calories, with a macro ratio of 77%f/13%c/11%p. You might want to think about swapping some of that for eggs. 9 ounces of cream and 2 eggs is about the same cals, but with a ratio of 73%f/10%c/18%p. Lower carb, higher protein. Unfortunately, the fat is also lower, but how else can you lower the carbs, unless you're into drinking tallow? Which you might be ... ZCarnivore and all that.

To respond to your Q, I have not tried the fat fast.

[Trishagrrl]

Good Morning and Happy August JUDDDers!

I'm back in the saddle after a rough week with my mother in law here. It was fantastic to have her here, it was just the diet side of things that was rough . I managed to pull off a DD yesterday, but I had more calories than I wanted. I really wanted it to be an AWF, but I felt like gnawing off my arm. So I finished the day with about 625 calories.

I didn't manage to get to the gym even once last week so it is going to be a rough day this morning when I get there!

I've noticed on DD's that when I have a lot of caffeine (which I've been doing) that I have a hard time sleeping at night. It doesn't seem to usually effect me that way. Anyone else have this problem? ````````

[Leo41]

Trish-

I have caffeine all day long (black coffee and green tea) to spur my metabolism (my endo's suggestion), and it doesn't keep me from sleeping.

But that may be because I'm chronically sleep deprived--thanks to my adorable cat who thinks that the morning 'begins' at 2 am:-)

You might try stopping the caffeine by 2 pm to help with the sleeping. Some hot, herbal tea or some broth would help with hunger if that's the issue.

[NoSugarShell]

Originally Posted by scandalouslyglam

So, how do you manage a Down Day with JUST coffee? I am SURE I would rip someone's head right off. All I thought about yesterday was FOOD.

I made a batch of the Summer squash soup from Dr.J's Book and it was AWESOME!! (1 small carton Low sodium chix broth, 1 can diced tomatos-I used the kind with chiles, 1 choped summer squash, 1 chopped zucchini, 1 stalk chopped celery. Simmer 15 minutes then puree 2 cups in blender add back to soup heat through and enjoy!!)I had it for supper and I did not feel the least bit deprived. Perhaps as time goes on I will get use to DD's, this was only my 2nd REAL down day.

That sounds so good. I am going to try that.

[NoSugarShell]

Originally Posted by Trishagrrl

Good Morning and Happy August JUDDDers!

I'm back in the saddle after a rough week with my mother in law here. It was fantastic to have her here, it was just the diet side of things that was rough . I managed to pull off a DD yesterday, but I had more calories than I wanted. I really wanted it to be an AWF, but I felt like gnawing off my arm. So I finished the day with about 625 calories.

I didn't manage to get to the gym even once last week so it is going to be a rough day this morning when I get there!

I've noticed on DD's that when I have a lot of caffeine (which I've been doing) that I have a hard time sleeping at night. It doesn't seem to usually effect me that way. Anyone else have this problem? ````````

Trish - I am really sensitive to caffeine. If I have more than 1 cup in the morning it will interfere with my sleep. It doesn't matter if it's an UD or DD for me.

[NoSugarShell]

Good Morning JUDDDers!!

Well, I have really been slacking on my UD's and have had some really crazy ones. I am ready to get serious and go back to Fast Five style JUDDD. Eating early in the morning just doesn't work for me no matter how bad I want it to. Sooo, today it's back to Fast Five and lower carbs. I haven't been losing, but it's not JUDDD, it's me.

I didn't work out at all last week and getting back to that starting today. I have just slacked...lol. NO MORE!

[JONAH'S GRANNY]

I continue to look at JUDD. Wish I could commit so I could get this last 10 pounds off. I have problems with low blood sugar if I don't eat fairly often and just wonder if I can handle the DD. Anyone have the hypoglycemic symptoms and able to do the DD? If so, what would your menu look like.

Thanks a bunch,
Ann

[Ilpirata]

OMG VESNA!!! YAY!!! You really stayed the course through that frustrating stall and I'm so stoked for your VFT!!!

You too LEO!!! Yeah, its just a pound but the first downward movement on the scale after a plateau is always so encouraging.

Originally Posted by scandalouslyglam

Hey I'm August and I'm uber-hot IN August...how cool is that?

Today is official DD#2, I had a terrific UD yesterday. Surprisingly I didn't go overboard, either. I was prepared for it. But I ate until satisfied and that was that. I did have several margaritas and they were terrific.

I was telling my mom about this eating plan and she seemed skeptical. I'm gonna let her read the book it really cleared things up for me.

Weasel, congrats on the lowest weight ever!!! That is awesome! I cannot wait to just be under 200. I'm not asking for miracles...just 199 ya know?

Have a great day everyone!!

Girl, you are UBER HOT! So beautiful. I remember wanting to get under 200 for sooooooo long. I even had a challenge for it. The ultimate hilarity of which was that I finally hit 199 like six months later LOL. And that was just the last ten pounds! I was like "I just want to weigh 199! Gah! Is that asking so much?" LOL.

Originally Posted by Lucianna

Hello JUDDers!

After lots and lots of research (where I found your threads incredibly helpful, so thankyou muchly!) I've decided to lose some weight JUDD-style!

I did something very similar a couple of years ago and lost about 25kg. I reckon that coupling very low carb, with JUDDing should produce some drastic results.

I'm a pharmacist by trade, and I realise that very rapid weightloss is not ideal or possibly sustainable in the long run, but I'm also realistic and honest enough with myself to know that I am not patient enough to wait around! I love seeing changes on that scale or I easily give up

I've never been to a wedding before and my first will be on October 17th. Ideally I would love to lose 15kgs (30 lbs ??) and I've done more before so I can do it again!
I attempted a very very half hearted low carb regimen last week and still managed to lose 1.2 kg (2.64lbs?). Haha, this week involved three days of proper induction, one day of a cookie/fruitcake/bottle of wine binge , a day of indian food and custard slice bingeing, and a day where I ate a WHOLE chicken (it was small, but a whole chicken nonetheless!), a bite of HJ's burger and lots of KFC chips.
What I did notice though was that on all of my naughty day binges, I had fasted (unintentionally!) all day and broke my fast with the binges at about 6PM.

My plan is to have coffee with cream on my DD and to eat low carb on my UD. The purpose of the cream/coffee is to integrate Dr Atkins Fat Fast into my DD. Has anyone ever tried this or anything similar?

I would love any support or tips you guys might have! So many of you sound like you've been doing this for ages with great success!

Thanks again!

XX

I agree with Leo not to set too high of a weight loss expectation... if you have historically lost quickly while on program you will *probablY* experience quick weight loss again but nothing is guaranteed and its so important to lose weight in as PERMANENT a way as possible. JUST HWC (in coffee) on DD is definately possible but it may be a good diea to have some solid food options (I like the egg suggestion) in case you get super mouth hungry to chew on something. I've done the fat fast and its good for short periods of time but not long ones. I'd be more likely to try to incorporate it one or two DDs per week not every single DD.

Originally Posted by JONAH'S GRANNY

I continue to look at JUDD. Wish I could commit so I could get this last 10 pounds off. I have problems with low blood sugar if I don't eat fairly often and just wonder if I can handle the DD. Anyone have the hypoglycemic symptoms and able to do the DD? If so, what would your menu look like.

Thanks a bunch,
Ann

I know this WOE is not recommended for those with blood sugar issues. You COULD look at a modified version though> maybe start by lowering your DD cals to 50% of your UD cals... not the radical 20% induction suggested by Dr. J. Then as long as you planned out your six mini meals and snacks if needed and pre loaded them into ****** to make sure that they stayed on track calorie wise you'd probably be okay. Isn't it key with hypoglycemia to eat frequently?

[Allieglover]

Originally Posted by Trishagrrl

I've noticed on DD's that when I have a lot of caffeine (which I've been doing) that I have a hard time sleeping at night. It doesn't seem to usually effect me that way. Anyone else have this problem? ````````

I notice that I sleep horrible on DD no matter how much coffee I have.

I also feel so tired lately and have had a headache most days of the week, especially last week. Does anyone else have this happen to them? I'm not sure if is PMS or the diet.

I have been eating very unhealthy on my UD, usually take out. I'm going to start eating healthy on my UD and give myself one take out splurge a week. I need to start eating more whole foods again. I've just been too tired to cook.

[Trishagrrl]

Originally Posted by Allieglover

I notice that I sleep horrible on DD no matter how much coffee I have.

I also feel so tired lately and have had a headache most days of the week, especially last week. Does anyone else have this happen to them? I'm not sure if is PMS or the diet.

I have been eating very unhealthy on my UD, usually take out. I'm going to start eating healthy on my UD and give myself one take out splurge a week. I need to start eating more whole foods again. I've just been too tired to cook.

I had some horrible headaches on my DD's for the first month of JUDDD. I'm also more fatigued on my DD's. I think that's why I compensate and drink more caffeine.

[Leo41]

Ann-

As Kisha says, Dr. J warns that folks with blood sugar issues should not do this diet, although he then qualifies it for "certain" type 2s, but I can't follow the science to tell what the issues are. If it's a case of frequent eating, I eat at least 3x a day on DDs--and could even eat more frequently if I needed to, although most folks here don't do that. I've found all sorts of 100-150 cal. 'meals' that I can have, and I find that with my black coffee or hot tea, the small amount of food is very satisfying.

I don't eat egg yolks, but I make myself a 'eggbeater' omelet with Pam spray and a little chopped spinach or other veg for about 70 cal. You can have a hardboiled egg for the same 70 cal.

This morning I had a pouch of wild salmon that's listed as 90 cal. (15g protein).

I buy sardines in water that are 120 cal. and mash them with some hot sauce.

I've been experimenting with eliminating dairy, but before that, I usually had a cup of Greek yoghurt for 90 cal.

My big treat is 1 Tbsp. of all natural chunky peanut butter at 100 cal.

I try to focus on getting as much protein as possible for my calories.

You could have more food if you wanted to focus on veggies or salad.

My point is that if frequent eating will help you, it's possible even on a DD.

[mammapo]

HI all! I'd jumped ship for the summer - but I'm back. 10 lbs heavier... but back.

What did I miss, and who all's still here from my crew?

Naomi

edit: looking back, it seems I only jumped ship for july, but boy did I ever. I went on vacay and had a leeetle too much fun with Mr. Salt and Mrs. Pepperoni.

It was all like, yeah, Kisha, I'm in this with you..... THUMP (that's the sound of me dropping out and hitting bottom a few minutes later)

I'm starting up the walking again, which should help, but DANG I am NOT used to being hungry again.


*waves at Kisha*

HELLO!!!

[Ilpirata]

Originally Posted by mammapo

HI all! I'd jumped ship for the summer - but I'm back. 10 lbs heavier... but back.

What did I miss, and who all's still here from my crew?

Naomi

edit: looking back, it seems I only jumped ship for july, but boy did I ever. I went on vacay and had a leeetle too much fun with Mr. Salt and Mrs. Pepperoni.

It was all like, yeah, Kisha, I'm in this with you..... THUMP (that's the sound of me dropping out and hitting bottom a few minutes later)

I'm starting up the walking again, which should help, but DANG I am NOT used to being hungry again.


*waves at Kisha*

HELLO!!!

Hi Hon! LOL. Well you're back and thats what matters. I haven't lost a pound since our July Pact either so meh lets move on!

[Lucianna]

Thanks for the advice!

Leo- Oh my goodness, she had her jaw wired shut? I can't even begin to fathom how horibble that would be! Jeez, how could medicine even rationalize that as a healthy weightloss method?
I wholeheartedly agree with both you and Ilpirata though. Quick weightloss is not realistic, I'm only looking for a bit of a nudge to get me motivated at the start.

Vesna- Thankyou so much for analysing that for me! I didn't realise that cream had quite so many carbs! I do read the labels on everything now (after a terrible acident involving me guzzling a bottle of sugary Fanta, which I misread for Diet Fanta!). I agree, eggs are a more feasible option in terms of balancing out the fat. Hehe, I love as rare steak, thats true, but I'm not so sure about tallow. What do you think of cream cheese or macadamias? Dr Atkin's claims they are perfect Fat Fast foods.

Ilpirata- That is such a beautiful name!! So unusual, would love to know its roots...hmm, would also make a great band name.
How was the Fat Fast? The last time I did it, I followed it to the letter with macadamias. I was starving and light headed, but it also came with a strange euphoria! I enjoyed and lost alot of weight, but I'm never quite hungry when I only drink (especially coffee, which is supposedly an appetite suppressant).

The previous two days I have been doing Intermittent Fasting. I've only been eating between 6PM-7PM and very low carb (steak, lettuce and two cubes of cheese). I am however rearing at the heels to start JUDDing. Do you think I should start of today as DD or an UD?
Would love your imput!

Happy JUDDing everyone, and thanks for the warm welcome!