August's Uber-Hot JUDDDDers!

[homestretch]

Made it through my first DD. I did great until about 10 p.m. and then I had to have a couple of cups of organic chicken broth to make it though. I feel better today than I have in many, many, many weeks. I was not even hungry at breakfast and that was terrific.

I found out that the party I am going to is on Saturday not Sunday which will be an UD anyway. The menu is smoked turkey, pork, fresh veggies, salad and cake so I can do that without a problem....well the cake may be a problem. The host told me she was having her mother bake me a special chocolate cake because she knows how I love chocolate cake

[nitenurse]

The party things are always a challenge, it's nice that on JUDDDD there is always tomorrow.
I am having a slow time getting back to losing. Wt coming down but still 7# up, you know that's water, but it is still annoying.
DD today, protein shakes and a hamburger patty. I am so un-inventive.
there's always tomorrow.

[Ilpirata]

Originally Posted by LBishop

Taking at least a temporary exodus from the group. I LOVED JUDDD, however, my doctor would like me not to follow this plan at least for the time being. I could argue it, but I'm in his care and feeling wonderful, I might add. This t3 temperature protocol is working so well for me already and I am having so much fun with all the new energy I have. It's really quite amazing! I do miss JUDDD, but it was not all in vain. I learned that hunger doesn't kill me and quite to the contrary, I always feel better when I'm not stuffed constantly with food. I am following a very "sensible" healthy diet and trying to not freak out with the few pounds that have found me again. I know my metabolism is changing. I'm running again finally and just generally feel good. I'm just going to slip away from the board for now as I will be busy anyway planning my new year of homeschooling! Best wishes to you all!

Leisa... I too will miss you and absolutely hope you'll be back at least occasionally to check in. It sounds like you are making a great decision for yourself.

Originally Posted by homestretch

Made it through my first DD. I did great until about 10 p.m. and then I had to have a couple of cups of organic chicken broth to make it though. I feel better today than I have in many, many, many weeks. I was not even hungry at breakfast and that was terrific.

I found out that the party I am going to is on Saturday not Sunday which will be an UD anyway. The menu is smoked turkey, pork, fresh veggies, salad and cake so I can do that without a problem....well the cake may be a problem. The host told me she was having her mother bake me a special chocolate cake because she knows how I love chocolate cake

Good for you! The first DD can notoriously be the hardest. Remind me if you are Low Carbing along with JUDD. Some of us are but some aren't and its absolutely not required for this plan. I think you can get away with a piece of cake on your UD unless you are low carbing also. Just don't take any cake home with you LOL!

Originally Posted by nitenurse

The party things are always a challenge, it's nice that on JUDDDD there is always tomorrow.
I am having a slow time getting back to losing. Wt coming down but still 7# up, you know that's water, but it is still annoying.
DD today, protein shakes and a hamburger patty. I am so un-inventive.
there's always tomorrow.

Me too. I'm way up too after going off my thyroid meds for two days. me too. Me too. I *know* on some level that the weight will come right back off as the meds build back up in my system... but its frustrating to see the higher numbers on the scale again so I feel ya!

[NoSugarShell]

Hey guys!!

Well, I have not been doing very good the last week or so. I am having trouble getting back my motivation. I have had 3 crazy UD's in a row. Today, is a DD, and I will stick to it, even though right now I am starving.

I have just been so hungry everyday and I am thinking it has to be the carbs. I have let them get alot higher than normal.

Wish me luck on my DD today.

[Leo41]

Michelle-

I think it's the carbs--they'll do it every time. I know that way back in April when I went on vacation, I had four UDs in a row, but I watched my carbs, and when I returned, I had no problem going right into a DD--with hardly any hunger (at least no more than usual). I low carb for health, but if I didn't, I'd NEVER be able to control my appetite! Just relax; you know you've done this before. It might be easier if you just try to go low carb for a few days before you try a DD?

Kisha-

Just curious--why were you off your thyroid meds? It wasn't because of the blood draw was it? Neither of my endos ever asked me to go off the meds for ANY reason. In fact, I even take my morning meds when I'm having a fasting blood draw.

[Ilpirata]

Originally Posted by Leo41

Michelle-

I think it's the carbs--they'll do it every time. I know that way back in April when I went on vacation, I had four UDs in a row, but I watched my carbs, and when I returned, I had no problem going right into a DD--with hardly any hunger (at least no more than usual). I low carb for health, but if I didn't, I'd NEVER be able to control my appetite! Just relax; you know you've done this before. It might be easier if you just try to go low carb for a few days before you try a DD?

Kisha-

Just curious--why were you off your thyroid meds? It wasn't because of the blood draw was it? Neither of my endos ever asked me to go off the meds for ANY reason. In fact, I even take my morning meds when I'm having a fasting blood draw.

yes thats why. They tell me not to take them! I know its ridiculous but if I take them when they tell me not to it will skew what they are looking for in the results even more. As you know I'm trying to work with what I've got on the Doctor front. For now.

[NoSugarShell]

Originally Posted by Ilpirata

yes thats why. They tell me not to take them! I know its ridiculous but if I take them when they tell me not to it will skew what they are looking for in the results even more. As you know I'm trying to work with what I've got on the Doctor front. For now.

Leo - My doctor always tells me not to take them either.

[NoSugarShell]

Originally Posted by Leo41

Michelle-

I think it's the carbs--they'll do it every time. I know that way back in April when I went on vacation, I had four UDs in a row, but I watched my carbs, and when I returned, I had no problem going right into a DD--with hardly any hunger (at least no more than usual). I low carb for health, but if I didn't, I'd NEVER be able to control my appetite! Just relax; you know you've done this before. It might be easier if you just try to go low carb for a few days before you try a DD?

Kisha-

Just curious--why were you off your thyroid meds? It wasn't because of the blood draw was it? Neither of my endos ever asked me to go off the meds for ANY reason. In fact, I even take my morning meds when I'm having a fasting blood draw.

Thanks Leo - I am so anxious to get back on track I was trying for a water fast today, but I am starving, tired and grumpy....lol. Not sure I will make it all day. Maybe I do just need to go for something low carb and filling and make it a DD instead of WF.

[Ilpirata]

Originally Posted by NoSugarShell

Thanks Leo - I am so anxious to get back on track I was trying for a water fast today, but I am starving, tired and grumpy....lol. Not sure I will make it all day. Maybe I do just need to go for something low carb and filling and make it a DD instead of WF.

yeah girl, just release the fast! Aim instead for a good healthy eating DD. Plan a couple or one meal that will fit within your cals and make it filling! I personally like a couple of scrambled eggs with a couple of cups of cooked vegetables. Or a salad + protein.

[NoSugarShell]

Originally Posted by Ilpirata

yeah girl, just release the fast! Aim instead for a good healthy eating DD. Plan a couple or one meal that will fit within your cals and make it filling! I personally like a couple of scrambled eggs with a couple of cups of cooked vegetables. Or a salad + protein.

Yes, I am giving up the fast for today. I am going to have some fried eggs w/ bacon..yummy, filling and low-carb.

[mammapo]

Originally Posted by Lucianna

Kisha- I know exactly what you mean! That's why I promised I would cut out drinking during this process, but it's so difficult when drinking is the social norm. I was at a band at I was getting free drinks. I resisted and only had two, but I know I went well above 20carbs last night--purely based on my cheese consumption, hehe.


Mamapo- Thanks! I didn't know we could have one SUD...I'm with Homestretch....really need to get a hold of the book! I am disappointed that I've used up my SUD this early on, especially with a 21st party coming up on the 22nd August. Aw. I'm gonna have to do a really strict DD today

You know, here's an idea.... (my own tweak)

up until the party, if you were to do straight water fasts or SDD (super down days - I count that as 100 -300 cal days) on your down days... I bet you could totally have another SUD and it wouldn't even phase you.

[mammapo]

Originally Posted by homestretch

Made it through my first DD. I did great until about 10 p.m. and then I had to have a couple of cups of organic chicken broth to make it though. I feel better today than I have in many, many, many weeks. I was not even hungry at breakfast and that was terrific.

I found out that the party I am going to is on Saturday not Sunday which will be an UD anyway. The menu is smoked turkey, pork, fresh veggies, salad and cake so I can do that without a problem....well the cake may be a problem. The host told me she was having her mother bake me a special chocolate cake because she knows how I love chocolate cake

It's an Up day - EAT THE CAKE!

My guess is that planning to eat the cake will mean you end up eating less of the cake than you would have if you had planned not to and given into temptation. That is the way it works for me, anyway.

[mammapo]

I'm headed into the dinner hour at 349 calories, which is about 18% of UD - and all this while making 400 potstickers for an upcoming engagement..... I am going to try really hard to make it through at 20% but I'll give myself to 30% if I can't take it anymore.

[Ilpirata]

Originally Posted by mammapo

I'm headed into the dinner hour at 349 calories, which is about 18% of UD - and all this while making 400 potstickers for an upcoming engagement..... I am going to try really hard to make it through at 20% but I'll give myself to 30% if I can't take it anymore.

Sounds like a plan... and man I love potsitckers! thats sounds hella nummy right now.

ME:
I'm doing a halfhearted DD. I was hungry at lunch and reflected that maybe I should just do induction for a week (watching calories) while gathering up the will to tackle JUDD again. I ate a small chicken caesar salad with no croutons. I came back and plugged it into ****** and its only like 350 calories so I'm actually find to keep this a DD. So I'm going to still go for it and hope I hold out!

[snaggle]

Hi everybody!! Love the new name--although after getting back from back to back, OFF PLAN, vacations, I am SO not feeling uber-hot. Had a wonderful time camping, boating, hiking, eating etc. etc.
Back late last night and it feels great to be having a down day!
Can't wait to read thru all the posts I missed while I was gone.
Hope everyone is loving Juddd.
I missed you all!

[Ilpirata]

Originally Posted by snaggle

Hi everybody!! Love the new name--although after getting back from back to back, OFF PLAN, vacations, I am SO not feeling uber-hot. Had a wonderful time camping, boating, hiking, eating etc. etc.
Back late last night and it feels great to be having a down day!
Can't wait to read thru all the posts I missed while I was gone.
Hope everyone is loving Juddd.
I missed you all!

WELCOME BACK!!! So glad you had fun.

[dasiey]

Originally Posted by NoSugarShell

Hey guys!!

Well, I have not been doing very good the last week or so. I am having trouble getting back my motivation. I have had 3 crazy UD's in a row. Today, is a DD, and I will stick to it, even though right now I am starving.

I have just been so hungry everyday and I am thinking it has to be the carbs. I have let them get alot higher than normal.

Wish me luck on my DD today.

as always best of luck.

[NoSugarShell]

Originally Posted by snaggle

Hi everybody!! Love the new name--although after getting back from back to back, OFF PLAN, vacations, I am SO not feeling uber-hot. Had a wonderful time camping, boating, hiking, eating etc. etc.
Back late last night and it feels great to be having a down day!
Can't wait to read thru all the posts I missed while I was gone.
Hope everyone is loving Juddd.
I missed you all!

back!! That sounds like so much fun.

[dasiey]

Originally Posted by snaggle

Hi everybody!! Love the new name--although after getting back from back to back, OFF PLAN, vacations, I am SO not feeling uber-hot. Had a wonderful time camping, boating, hiking, eating etc. etc.
Back late last night and it feels great to be having a down day!
Can't wait to read thru all the posts I missed while I was gone.
Hope everyone is loving Juddd.
I missed you all!

back

[Leo41]

Kisha & Michelle-

I got nervous for a moment about the thyroid meds and then realized that you're both on Armour. Perhaps that's why your endos tell you not to take them? I know they tend to act differently in the body than synthetics. I just thought it was strange that neither of my endos (or my primary) ever told me not to take the meds before a blood test, but perhaps that's because I'm on synthetics.

Kisha-

I know that I lost a pound last week, but if I don't lose steadily in August (even a half pound a week), I might try doing a couple of weeks of low calorie, low carb just to see if a 'change' does anything. But I'm going to give it this month.

[Ilpirata]

Originally Posted by Leo41

Kisha & Michelle-

I got nervous for a moment about the thyroid meds and then realized that you're both on Armour. Perhaps that's why your endos tell you not to take them? I know they tend to act differently in the body than synthetics. I just thought it was strange that neither of my endos (or my primary) ever told me not to take the meds before a blood test, but perhaps that's because I'm on synthetics.

Kisha-

I know that I lost a pound last week, but if I don't lose steadily in August (even a half pound a week), I might try doing a couple of weeks of low calorie, low carb just to see if a 'change' does anything. But I'm going to give it this month.

Sounds like a plan... and a good one. I'm feeling more optimistic right now and just about ready to swear to join you LOL. In fact I think I will. If you're in for the rest of August so am I.

[nitenurse]

For what it's worth-here I am mostly though my DD; my wt this am was still up 6# from sig, due to 3 udays in a row (wedding weekend). All of a sudden this afternoon, I am feeling so much better. I think that may mean the water will be leaving before morning. Just haven't noticed this so obvious before.
anyone else notice this when things are working well?

[Ilpirata]

Originally Posted by nitenurse

For what it's worth-here I am mostly though my DD; my wt this am was still up 6# from sig, due to 3 udays in a row (wedding weekend). All of a sudden this afternoon, I am feeling so much better. I think that may mean the water will be leaving before morning. Just haven't noticed this so obvious before.
anyone else notice this when things are working well?

Well at lunch I was ready to give up on JUDD! I was hungry and just didn't force a fast. I ordered what I thought was an Atkins Induction lunch and it turned out the calories totally fit my Down Day. And strangely after eating and seeing that and coming here and posting... yeah I feel a million times better too! odd. As far as if that will be reflected on the scale I'm not sure but maybe!

[cherlyndria77]

Hey guys! I've been stalking you for like a week now! I've started my juddd on Monday just gone, and I've been checking out you tips, suggestions etc and so I'd like to get in on the support. I'm getting married in November next year and no weight loss plan has ever been sustainable for me, so I'm really hoping that this is the one! I am on my 3rd dd and find it sooo easy (knock on wood), I'm mainly surviving the induction phase on cuppa soups and biggest loser protein shakes. It doesn't seem like a big deal because each thing I have to abstain from I know I can have tomorrow! Hurray for Juddd

[hotmama_007]

Hi Everyone,
Almost done with DD #2. Can't wait for breakfast tomorrow. LOL...

Yesterday was my UD and DH's birthday. I think yesterday I really made up for the previous day's DD. I was ok during the family party that we had. I ate as low carb as possible since carbs are definite triggers for me but I defintely ate a lot and EVERYTHING but the cake.

And then it happened.

After having a tough week last week and totally going off plan it took me 3+ days to get back into Ketosis. So last night, after all that avoidance of cake and even avoiding extra helpings of great salads, I ran to the bathroom for a quick pee and there they were: evil KETOSTIX. Just to confirm that I was STILL in ketosis, I dared to check. Clearly not a single ketone was released. I think the stick was lighter than ever! LOL! And it was over after that. I helped myself to strawberries, watermelon, and then MORE watermelon. It wasn't cake, right?

After the guests went home, I had some cheese, and then some more, and then some more and then some nuts, and then some yogurt and then I found and Atkins bar and then, and then, and then... you see where this is going?

I just read the TaDa success post (SUCH A GREAT POST) in the main lobby about restrictions and binging. So I have to ask. Does Juddd make you binge on Up Days? I seem to have so many triggers...sugar, scale, ketostix, etc. I'm trying Judd because not losing quickly enough is also a trigger for me. I'm not a fast loser with regular low carb, but on the other hand perhaps I'm not a fast loser because the triggers tend to make me overdo the menu (that's a mild way of saying it, right?).

Anyway, just venting and curious if Juddd itself has been somewhat of a trigger for anyone.

Congrats to all on your successfull DDays. I'm sensing you all look thinner!! ;-)

[slimlizzie]

I really really want to do this WOE..but talk about social obligations..I have been on an UD ever since I started. Something always gets in the way. We just moved back home and family and friends stop by we get invited to dinners..I start the DD and some always happens. I love being home with my family and friends. So it is hard.

It is nice to know you're allowed a back to back UD once a week. I first have to do a whole DD!

Originally Posted by mammapo
I'm headed into the dinner hour at 349 calories, which is about 18% of UD - and all this while making 400 potstickers for an upcoming engagement..... I am going to try really hard to make it through at 20% but I'll give myself to 30% if I can't take it anymore.

POTSTICKERS...I love them..one of the parties we were at was an Asian Party Potluck and I had lots of Potstickers!! and that started the UD syndrome for me.

hotmama_007 Oh dear I have had those insane days..it just happens it's like I can't stop eating every evil carb in the house!
Well today is another day (DD?)and I will keep on keeping on!!

[Leo41]

cherlyndria-

It may be that JUDDD is right for you, since you really seem to have a handle on the DDs AND the 'attitude.' That is, what Dr. J recommends (and has worked for most of us) is the idea that "I can eat that tomorrow." We've also found that "tomorrow," we don't really have any desire to overdo it; just to eat normally. I hope this works for you.

hotmamma-

I can certainly relate to your experience, and if you want to stay with JUDDD, my advice would be to dump the ketostix and avoid the scale, except perhaps on a weekly basis. Both are notoriously inaccurate (my understanding is that the ketostix can be thrown off by level of hydration among other things), and if they are such a trigger for you (i.e., if you sense that you're not losing), then they're more harm than good.

However, if not losing quickly is a 'trigger,' JUDDD might not be for you. Some people here lose quickly, but most of us came to JUDDD because we were stalled on standard low carb and are very slow losers. I've been 'very successful' with JUDDD, but my loss has been less than a pound a week.

My own experience is that it's important to forget about how much I'm losing and focus on the process. This way if I don't lose, I can tweak what I've done to try to stimulate loss. JUDDD also seems to create fluctuations, so that if you weigh too frequently, you might see apparent gains that could be a trigger for you, which is why I suggest not weighing so frequently.

[weasel!]

Originally Posted by cherlyndria77

Hey guys! I've been stalking you for like a week now! I've started my juddd on Monday just gone,...

Welcome, cherlyndria77!!!

Originally Posted by mammapo

It's an Up day - EAT THE CAKE!

My guess is that planning to eat the cake will mean you end up eating less of the cake than you would have if you had planned not to and given into temptation. That is the way it works for me, anyway.

My thoughts exactly. Well said. One reason JUDDDD works for me is that special treats are no longer months and months and months away, "after I'm done with my diet." That's what makes this something I can foresee sustaining even through special occasions, family visits and holiday seasons.

Originally Posted by slimlizzie

I really really want to do this WOE..but talk about social obligations..I have been on an UD ever since I started. Something always gets in the way. We just moved back home and family and friends stop by we get invited to dinners..I start the DD and some always happens. I love being home with my family and friends. So it is hard.....
Well today is another day (DD?)and I will keep on keeping on!!

Welcome slimlizzie! I'm going to give you the advice I've given to others who are having a hard time getting the first DD going: Do NOT attempt a DD the day after you tried and "failed" to do a DD. Don't accumulate a chain of regret. Grant yourself an Up Day instead. Eat well and enjoy.

Whatever you managed to do on that DD attempt, that is it, chalk it up to experience. Your next day really needs to be an UD -- a mental vacation from calorie restriction and dieting. I believe that's the only way one can tap into the real power of this alternate day plan.

During your UD, plan the upcoming DD. That way you'll be going into the DD well-fed and well-prepared.

The following DD is bound to go more smoothly. The day after that, whatever you did or didn't achieve, give yourself the Up Day. It might take a while to find your personal rhythm, but you gotta start swinging to get the music going.

[Trishagrrl]

Hey JUDDDers

DD for me today. I made it to the gym, but only managed to eek out a 45 minute workout. I feel like I'm dragging today and I know the lack of food won't help. I think I'll go make some coffee or hot green tea and hopefully that will help me get through this day!

I was planning on going back to my Sun, Tues, Thur rotation this next week, but I've just found out I have my nieces birthday party to go to on Sunday. I'm happy that JUDDD offers me the flexibility to eat with my family and friends for social events!

I am beginning to wonder how long to stick with JUDDD with no loss. I've been on this plan for just over 3 months and the first month and a half I lost. I've been stalled ever since then. I know some of it probably has to do with my thyroid, but my med's have been upped and still I've seen no loss. I am glad that I haven't put on more than a couple of pounds from what I've lost, but it's still quite discouraging. I enjoy this WOE and it really seems doable with my busy life, but when do you decide it's just not working?

Cherlyndria- Welcome to JUDDD. Good luck

[nitenurse]

Had a good down day, 3 shakes and a hamburger patty. Not hungry this am, which is good because I have a lunch/meeting. Planning to have some fish and a salad. More veggies and some protein for supper, getting back on track.
Scale is slowly giving back a loss. I retain potatoes lol.