August's Uber-Hot JUDDDDers!

[Trishagrrl]

Well, I didn't make it to the gym! I'm a big slacker. Instead I went through my clothes. It is ridiculous how many clothes I have that don't fit. I got them all organized and packed for the move. Looking at all of those clothes was a great diet motivator!

So far, my dreaded DD is going quite well! I had a big mug of green tea when the first hunger pangs arose earlier this morning. And I just finished a dill pickle to stave off the second hunger pangs. I've found that pickles are a GREAT low cal snack on DD!

[homestretch]

How do most of you pattern your up days and down days? Today I am on a down day but I need an up day for a party on Sunday...any advice?

[Ilpirata]

Originally Posted by homestretch

How do most of you pattern your up days and down days? Today I am on a down day but I need an up day for a party on Sunday...any advice?

So right now you are on

W: DD
Tr: UD
Fr: DD
Sat: UD
Sun DD
Mon: UD
Tues: DD

Here's what I'd do:

W: DD
Tr: UD
Fr: DD
Sat: MD (Medium day halfway between UD & DD Calories)
Sun: UD
Mon: DD
Tues: UD

[Trishagrrl]

I typically do a MD sometime during the week too. My TYPICAL schedule looks like this
Su-DD
M-UD
T-DD
W-UD
TH-DD
FR-UD
Sa-MD
But, this schedule does change depending on social obligations. That MD gives me some flexibility. This week Sunday was a DD, Monday UD (had dinner plans with family), Tuesday I made my MD (dinner plans with friends), Wednesday DD, and I'll keep on this rotation until Sunday when I'll be back to my regular rotation.

[Leo41]

Trisha-

I am on a DD, and just had a pickle myself! I don't like all the sodium in the commercial pickles (although I have a jar right now), but earlier this summer I neighbor gave me some pickles he'd made himself from cucumbers in his garden LAST summer. They were kind of mushy, but the mix he used is not at all salty, and I've been buying cucumbers, slicing them, and putting them into his mix--they're delicious after a few days.

So I'm going to start making my own. This tastes mainly like vinegar and dill, but I'd add garlic, too. It's not real 'pickling' but I get the same effect as from commerical pickles.

I find them really great for DDs when I need a little "crunch" but don't want calories. Something about the sourness kills appetite.

[Ilpirata]

my tests are back and my T3 is halfway in range but not in the upper part of the range where it should be 1.18 (.60-1.81). Both my Endo AND her nurse practitioner are out of the office so I won't be able to get any relief on the meds until one of them is back. And even then who knows... They may not be willing to increase.

Either way I'm feeling pretty down today. Literally. And its a Down Day LOL. Its so hard to not lose and not lose for months when following such a strict WOE. I'm not sure if I can keep doing it if I don't lose anything.

Of course I don't know what other plan I'd switch to since giving up altogether is absolutely NOT an option.


*sigh*

[GME]

Originally Posted by Ilpirata

my tests are back and my T3 is halfway in range but not in the upper part of the range where it should be 1.18 (.60-1.81). Both my Endo AND her nurse practitioner are out of the office so I won't be able to get any relief on the meds until one of them is back. And even then who knows... They may not be willing to increase.

Either way I'm feeling pretty down today. Literally. And its a Down Day LOL. Its so hard to not lose and not lose for months when following such a strict WOE. I'm not sure if I can keep doing it if I don't lose anything.

Of course I don't know what other plan I'd switch to since giving up altogether is absolutely NOT an option.


*sigh*

I feel for you. I got my results back from my PCP and even after talking about how TSH isn't a reliable test and watching her check "Complete Thyroid Panel" on the lab slip, all that came back was a TSH in "normal range." I need to call I guess, but it just seems like a waste of time.

I have the name of an endo, but after hearing all the trouble everyone goes through to get diagnosed and treated it just seems overwhelming, especially since I don't have the big symptom of fatigue.

I haven't lost, but I haven't gained, on basically two meals a day. One LC meal around lunchtime and then "a reasonable" dinner within a two to three hour window. I'm still tweaking since I haven't seen a loss yet, but it is certainly easier than JUDDD with no loss.

I don't mean to dump my issues out on you when you are down, but you are not alone. I keep thinking about what you say about giving up. In a year I want to weigh less, not more, so giving up isn't an option for me either.

[Redeemed]

Kisha: I would really like to comment about how impressed I am with your staying on plan even though you have had such a difficult time losing weight recently. You have an amazing capacity for "taking the bull by the horns and keep hanging on" - Even though you may need to turn this bull in another direction () you have an amazing ability to stay on plan.

[Ilpirata]

Originally Posted by GME

I feel for you. I got my results back from my PCP and even after talking about how TSH isn't a reliable test and watching her check "Complete Thyroid Panel" on the lab slip, all that came back was a TSH in "normal range." I need to call I guess, but it just seems like a waste of time.

I have the name of an endo, but after hearing all the trouble everyone goes through to get diagnosed and treated it just seems overwhelming, especially since I don't have the big symptom of fatigue.

I haven't lost, but I haven't gained, on basically two meals a day. One LC meal around lunchtime and then "a reasonable" dinner within a two to three hour window. I'm still tweaking since I haven't seen a loss yet, but it is certainly easier than JUDDD with no loss.

I don't mean to dump my issues out on you when you are down, but you are not alone. I keep thinking about what you say about giving up. In a year I want to weigh less, not more, so giving up isn't an option for me either.

Hmn Gina, that sounds like IF... glad you are at least maintaining on that while you regroup and gather your forces. I may need to do something like that... pick a plan to maintain for awhile before I push for more weight loss. Right now I'm still undecided and have NO plan... except a vague one to stick with JUDD for awhile longer. Thanks for your support - and its NOT dumping! We've been through alot together on these boards and seem to be weight loss twins in so many ways, including our frustrations (shared)

Originally Posted by Redeemed

Kisha: I would really like to comment about how impressed I am with your staying on plan even though you have had such a difficult time losing weight recently. You have an amazing capacity for "taking the bull by the horns and keep hanging on" - Even though you may need to turn this bull in another direction () you have an amazing ability to stay on plan.

Thanks so much hon! I really appreciate it. Right now I'm focusing on not having a freak out binge but rather staying on *some* track while I come up with a plan. I think its frustration making me want to eat! I'm an emotional eater deep down although I can usually exercise control.

[Trishagrrl]

Originally Posted by Leo41

Trisha-

I am on a DD, and just had a pickle myself! I don't like all the sodium in the commercial pickles (although I have a jar right now), but earlier this summer I neighbor gave me some pickles he'd made himself from cucumbers in his garden LAST summer. They were kind of mushy, but the mix he used is not at all salty, and I've been buying cucumbers, slicing them, and putting them into his mix--they're delicious after a few days.

So I'm going to start making my own. This tastes mainly like vinegar and dill, but I'd add garlic, too. It's not real 'pickling' but I get the same effect as from commerical pickles.

I find them really great for DDs when I need a little "crunch" but don't want calories. Something about the sourness kills appetite.

I decided to try my hand at canning last year. One of the things I decided to do was pickles. A bushel of pickling cucumbers at our local farmers market was incredibly cheap! I used my mom's recipe for pickles and they turned out great and crunchy too! My husband devoured most of them and they've been gone for many months. I'll have to do a lot more this year because I'm eating more since starting JUDDD! I do wonder if I could cut down on the salt in the recipe... I'll have to do some checking on that.

[Trishagrrl]

Originally Posted by Ilpirata

my tests are back and my T3 is halfway in range but not in the upper part of the range where it should be 1.18 (.60-1.81). Both my Endo AND her nurse practitioner are out of the office so I won't be able to get any relief on the meds until one of them is back. And even then who knows... They may not be willing to increase.

Either way I'm feeling pretty down today. Literally. And its a Down Day LOL. Its so hard to not lose and not lose for months when following such a strict WOE. I'm not sure if I can keep doing it if I don't lose anything.

Of course I don't know what other plan I'd switch to since giving up altogether is absolutely NOT an option.


*sigh*

Sorry you aren't feeling well! I know for me with this last month and a half with no loss I just keep telling myself "well, at least I'm not gaining" because it seems like when my thyroid is off I typically always gain. I do think my thyroid levels must be better because I"m not sleeping so much lately. Hopefully I'll start to see some change on the scale soon and I hope you do too!

[Ilpirata]

Originally Posted by Trishagrrl

I decided to try my hand at canning last year. One of the things I decided to do was pickles. A bushel of pickling cucumbers at our local farmers market was incredibly cheap! I used my mom's recipe for pickles and they turned out great and crunchy too! My husband devoured most of them and they've been gone for many months. I'll have to do a lot more this year because I'm eating more since starting JUDDD! I do wonder if I could cut down on the salt in the recipe... I'll have to do some checking on that.

FWIW my mom makes zucchini pickles from the plethora of zucchini her garden puts out. DELISH!

[hotmama_007]

Hi Everyone!

I had my first DD yesterday and it really wasn't too bad! I was fairly hungry all day but after the post about embracing hunger meaning that I'm tapping into fat stores, I managed to just have a couple of bites here and there during the day and then just dinner which was a small hamburger patty and pseudo-coleslaw.

After dinner I enjoyed a back of David's super salty Suflower seeds at 160 calories a bag and it took me probably close to 1.5 hourse to eat! After a day of almost fasting, dinner and sunflower seed were SO DELICIOUS!! I never really cared for seeds or nuts until I started low carbing actually.

Anyway, even though I didn't plan to weigh myself until next week, I couldn't help it and weighed myself this morning and even after that bag of salt that I ate, I'm back down to my signature weight!! woo-hoo!!!

Anyway, honestly the DD's all seems much scarier before you actually do one. Over the last couple weeks as I was lurking, I just couldn't imagine actually getting through the day on ONLY 500 calories, but yesterday every time I opened the fridge, I just kept saying to myself that "this will be great to eat TOMORROW!".

I'm excited. I'm a horrible "dieter" but this is really doable. Embrace that hunger!! :-)

[Ilpirata]

Originally Posted by hotmama_007

Hi Everyone!

I had my first DD yesterday and it really wasn't too bad! I was fairly hungry all day but after the post about embracing hunger meaning that I'm tapping into fat stores, I managed to just have a couple of bites here and there during the day and then just dinner which was a small hamburger patty and pseudo-coleslaw.

After dinner I enjoyed a back of David's super salty Suflower seeds at 160 calories a bag and it took me probably close to 1.5 hourse to eat! After a day of almost fasting, dinner and sunflower seed were SO DELICIOUS!! I never really cared for seeds or nuts until I started low carbing actually.

Anyway, even though I didn't plan to weigh myself until next week, I couldn't help it and weighed myself this morning and even after that bag of salt that I ate, I'm back down to my signature weight!! woo-hoo!!!

Anyway, honestly the DD's all seems much scarier before you actually do one. Over the last couple weeks as I was lurking, I just couldn't imagine actually getting through the day on ONLY 500 calories, but yesterday every time I opened the fridge, I just kept saying to myself that "this will be great to eat TOMORROW!".

I'm excited. I'm a horrible "dieter" but this is really doable. Embrace that hunger!! :-)

YAY!!! So glad it went well for you. It sounds like you're already tuning into some of the JUDDD keys:

I'll eat that tomorrow
embrace the hunger
This is DOABLE!

[Leo41]

Kisha-

You're exactly where I was in terms of T3 (but I only had a total test, not the free), and, as you know, my guy was reluctant to increase. However, I've been doing this since last Saturday (increase), and I've had no hyper symptoms at all. In fact, I just feel a lot less "foggy" than I had been. I hope your endo will give you more because the T3 is so necessary. The new Armour probably isn't giving you enough.

Gina-

At least get the TSH number from your doctor (never let them just tell you 'normal,' always ask for a copy of the report--it belongs to you). Most docs will consider anything below 4.0 in the 'normal' range, but Kisha's doctor will treat anyone over a 2.0. And it's possible not to feel fatigued because the symptoms come on so gradually than you might not realize how much better you can feel. I'm hoping you're NOT hypo, but if you are, it's really best to find a good doctor.

[Lucianna]

I had an absolutely ridiculous UD yesterday. It started off quite well, my hunger was well controlled. The I went out, had a couple of beers, came home famished and raided anything and everything low carb in the fridge, including cheese, which I havent eaten in years.
Very disappointed, but today is a DD so I am feeling as though I can redeem myself. I'm actually anticipating embracing the hunger. So much for not drinking...that disappoints me more than anything, but hopefully I can start afresh. I dread hopping on the scales to analyse the damage.

[nitenurse]

Big upday, but stayed lowcarb. I'm still pleased with this woe, I've tried everything else under the sun, and don't know what else I would do-am hoping for some of the health benefits that supposedly come with the SIRT1 or whatever that is. Kept my carbs under 20, inspite of eating a lot. Didn't really plan it that way, but that is the way it happened.
I got some Julian Bakery 1 carb bread (ad was on Netrition) and I am really pigging out on that, after years of not eating bread. I think the novelty will wear off after awhile, but it sure is nice to make a sandwich now and then.

[Ilpirata]

Originally Posted by Leo41

Kisha-

You're exactly where I was in terms of T3 (but I only had a total test, not the free), and, as you know, my guy was reluctant to increase. However, I've been doing this since last Saturday (increase), and I've had no hyper symptoms at all. In fact, I just feel a lot less "foggy" than I had been. I hope your endo will give you more because the T3 is so necessary. The new Armour probably isn't giving you enough.

Thanks for the input Leo! Mine was Total T3 test too not Free... When she gets back I'm going to literally BEG for the cytomel!

Originally Posted by Lucianna

I had an absolutely ridiculous UD yesterday. It started off quite well, my hunger was well controlled. The I went out, had a couple of beers, came home famished and raided anything and everything low carb in the fridge, including cheese, which I havent eaten in years.
Very disappointed, but today is a DD so I am feeling as though I can redeem myself. I'm actually anticipating embracing the hunger. So much for not drinking...that disappoints me more than anything, but hopefully I can start afresh. I dread hopping on the scales to analyse the damage.

For me drinking has always been impossible on low carb. i don't drink anymore (2+ years) but back in my drinking days it always sabottaged me. Either from the booze knocking me out of ketosis or the booze removing all eating inhibitions.

[homestretch]

**Kisha** Thanks for the tip for managing my party on Sunday. I will stick to the schedule you suggested.

I replied to one of your posts before about stalling and while I am not hypo (that I know of) I did stall for an eternity. I have PCOS which made my weight loss pretty slow throughout. I spent 7 months stalled out. It was so frustrating and I did tweak, tweak, tweak until I finally began to lose again. You are doing it though girl! You are surviving the toughest part of weight loss. When you get to the other side of this stall you will have an amazing sense of accomplishment. Don't give up! You can see this through and hopefully your doc will get back in and change your meds. I am totally frustrated also....we can all just lean on one another until our frustrations are history.

[mammapo]

Originally Posted by homestretch

How do most of you pattern your up days and down days? Today I am on a down day but I need an up day for a party on Sunday...any advice?

I'd do this:

TH UD
F DD
S UD
Su UD
M DD

remember you're allowed a back to back UD once a week.

[homestretch]

Originally Posted by mammapo

I'd do this:

TH UD
F DD
S UD
Su UD
M DD

remember you're allowed a back to back UD once a week.

Thank you I did not know that. Maybe I need the book!

[mammapo]

Originally Posted by hotmama_007

Hi Everyone!

I had my first DD yesterday and it really wasn't too bad! I was fairly hungry all day but after the post about embracing hunger meaning that I'm tapping into fat stores, I managed to just have a couple of bites here and there during the day and then just dinner which was a small hamburger patty and pseudo-coleslaw.

After dinner I enjoyed a back of David's super salty Suflower seeds at 160 calories a bag and it took me probably close to 1.5 hourse to eat! After a day of almost fasting, dinner and sunflower seed were SO DELICIOUS!! I never really cared for seeds or nuts until I started low carbing actually.

Anyway, even though I didn't plan to weigh myself until next week, I couldn't help it and weighed myself this morning and even after that bag of salt that I ate, I'm back down to my signature weight!! woo-hoo!!!

Anyway, honestly the DD's all seems much scarier before you actually do one. Over the last couple weeks as I was lurking, I just couldn't imagine actually getting through the day on ONLY 500 calories, but yesterday every time I opened the fridge, I just kept saying to myself that "this will be great to eat TOMORROW!".

I'm excited. I'm a horrible "dieter" but this is really doable. Embrace that hunger!! :-)

(((huggs!))) YAY!!! this IS doable. It's all about being able to say I CAN have that tomorrow as opposed to I can't ever....

I'm so proud of you!!!

KISHA
THink about this - you may be stalled pending meds, but and this is a BIG BUT... imagine what would be happening on any other plan than JUDDD. Without that skinny gene activated, my guess is that you'd be packing on weight and very fast....

[mammapo]

Originally Posted by Lucianna

I had an absolutely ridiculous UD yesterday. It started off quite well, my hunger was well controlled. The I went out, had a couple of beers, came home famished and raided anything and everything low carb in the fridge, including cheese, which I havent eaten in years.
Very disappointed, but today is a DD so I am feeling as though I can redeem myself. I'm actually anticipating embracing the hunger. So much for not drinking...that disappoints me more than anything, but hopefully I can start afresh. I dread hopping on the scales to analyse the damage.

It is OKAY to have a Super Up Day every once in a while. In fact, experts reccommend doing this kind of thing at least once every 21 days to shake up the body and keep it from stalling.

So consider this your SUD for the next three weeks and move on!

[Lucianna]

Kisha- I know exactly what you mean! That's why I promised I would cut out drinking during this process, but it's so difficult when drinking is the social norm. I was at a band at I was getting free drinks. I resisted and only had two, but I know I went well above 20carbs last night--purely based on my cheese consumption, hehe.


Mamapo- Thanks! I didn't know we could have one SUD...I'm with Homestretch....really need to get a hold of the book! I am disappointed that I've used up my SUD this early on, especially with a 21st party coming up on the 22nd August. Aw. I'm gonna have to do a really strict DD today

[weasel!]

Originally Posted by homestretch

How do most of you pattern your up days and down days? Today I am on a down day but I need an up day for a party on Sunday...any advice?

I do MWF down days only. I work Monday through Friday, so it makes it easy, because at the office I am occupied. All I have to do is have a 350-calorie lunch and 150 calories either for breakfast or dinner, and white-knuckle it until bedtime.

Generally speaking, the fun opportunities for cooking, baking, parties and so forth happen on the weekends, so having Saturday and Sunday always be back-to-back Up Days has made it super-easy to stay on plan. There have been weekends when I've absolutely stuffed myself on great food and Wisconsin craft beer at cookouts or whatever, and STILL I've lost weight between my Saturday (post-Friday DD) and Tuesday (post-Monday DD) weigh-ins.

This schedule has been super-easy to maintain because four days out of the week, I'm not on a diet -- and still I've been losing more weight, and more consistently, than on any other weight loss effort.

Originally Posted by Lucianna

I had an absolutely ridiculous UD yesterday. It started off quite well, my hunger was well controlled. The I went out, had a couple of beers, came home famished and raided anything and everything low carb in the fridge, including cheese, which I havent eaten in years....

If I may suggest, the control was the problem. UDs are not for controlling hunger. They're satisfying hunger. For eating well, and eating plenty. Had you started out planning to eat plenty of food, you wouldn't feel bad about having done just that. And you probably would have made choices you'd have been happier with.

JUDDDD is not supposed to be alternating between eating almost nothing and eating not quite enough. It's supposed to be between eating almost nothing and eating well.

[Ilpirata]

Originally Posted by homestretch

**Kisha** Thanks for the tip for managing my party on Sunday. I will stick to the schedule you suggested.

I replied to one of your posts before about stalling and while I am not hypo (that I know of) I did stall for an eternity. I have PCOS which made my weight loss pretty slow throughout. I spent 7 months stalled out. It was so frustrating and I did tweak, tweak, tweak until I finally began to lose again. You are doing it though girl! You are surviving the toughest part of weight loss. When you get to the other side of this stall you will have an amazing sense of accomplishment. Don't give up! You can see this through and hopefully your doc will get back in and change your meds. I am totally frustrated also....we can all just lean on one another until our frustrations are history.

Thanks for that hon! You're totally right. I've been through this twice before and it always DOES come to an end... eventuallY! And thank goodness for LCF you guys keep me from giving up so many times.

Originally Posted by mammapo

(((huggs!))) YAY!!! this IS doable. It's all about being able to say I CAN have that tomorrow as opposed to I can't ever....

I'm so proud of you!!!

KISHA
THink about this - you may be stalled pending meds, but and this is a BIG BUT... imagine what would be happening on any other plan than JUDDD. Without that skinny gene activated, my guess is that you'd be packing on weight and very fast....

Right again! Yeah I'm SURE this would be way way worse. I don't think I'd be maintaining on 1800 cals every. single. day. I'm just gonna' focus on fighting for more meds when my Endo gets back in town.

[Trishagrrl]

I'm finishing up my DD with 250 calories! YAY! It's been quite a while since I've been able to keep my DD calories this low. I was going to have more to eat at dinner, but I was feeling good after less than my scheduled food so I decided to STOP.

Just in case anyone wondered, tonight I discovered that Oscar Mayer Fat Free hotdogs are nasty! I'm going to stick with the Ball Park Franks from now on.

HotMama: Congrats on a good DD! It's good to get a few of them under your belt. It gives you some confidence that you actually can stick with this WOE. I'm surprised at how easy it usually is. It's so nice to know that tomorrow I can eat

[Ilpirata]

Originally Posted by Trishagrrl

I'm finishing up my DD with 250 calories! YAY! It's been quite a while since I've been able to keep my DD calories this low. I was going to have more to eat at dinner, but I was feeling good after less than my scheduled food so I decided to STOP.

Just in case anyone wondered, tonight I discovered that Oscar Mayer Fat Free hotdogs are nasty! I'm going to stick with the Ball Park Franks from now on.

HotMama: Congrats on a good DD! It's good to get a few of them under your belt. It gives you some confidence that you actually can stick with this WOE. I'm surprised at how easy it usually is. It's so nice to know that tomorrow I can eat

I also like the Hebrew National 97% FF Hot Dogs.

[LBishop]

Taking at least a temporary exodus from the group. I LOVED JUDDD, however, my doctor would like me not to follow this plan at least for the time being. I could argue it, but I'm in his care and feeling wonderful, I might add. This t3 temperature protocol is working so well for me already and I am having so much fun with all the new energy I have. It's really quite amazing! I do miss JUDDD, but it was not all in vain. I learned that hunger doesn't kill me and quite to the contrary, I always feel better when I'm not stuffed constantly with food. I am following a very "sensible" healthy diet and trying to not freak out with the few pounds that have found me again. I know my metabolism is changing. I'm running again finally and just generally feel good. I'm just going to slip away from the board for now as I will be busy anyway planning my new year of homeschooling! Best wishes to you all!

[Leo41]

Leisa-

Good luck with your protocol. In any WOE, health should be primary, and it might be good in the long run for a 'change' in eating. I hope you'll be back with us soon--if not to JUDDD, at least to share.