July JUDDDD / Alternate Day Diet 2009

weasel! · 07-01-2009, 04:25 AM

Welcome to July JUDDDD!

(also know as Dr. Johnson's Up Day Down Day Diet or The Alternate Day Diet)

The following is quoted from Dr. Johnson's web site.

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Getting Started

There are two phases: weight loss and maintainance. To lose weight, calorie intake on the “down” day is limited to 20% to 35% of daily calorie requirement, although it is strongly recommended that calories be below 25% when starting a weight loss diet. To maintain weight loss and for optimal health, down day intake is kept at 50% to 60% of calorie needs.

Use the following tool (go to Dr JOhnsons website for this) to calculate the down day calorie requirements. There is a strong tendency for overweight individuals to overestimate the "Activity" level, thereby allowing themselves high calorie allowance on the down day. To avoid this problem, for the first two weeks, you should consume no more than 500 calories on the down day regardless of your activity level.

Please google Dr. Johnsons site to find the Up Day Down Day Calorie Calculator

*This calculator provides an estimate of your calorie requirement so that you can determine your down day calories. The "Normal Calories" shown may be more or less than you actually feel like eating on the up day. The important principle is to adhere to the down day calorie limit as closely as possible. You do not have to eat all the calories shown as "Normal Calories".

Hunger Management

The key to success on the down day is learning what works for you. Remember that you can eat tomorrow. The book will detail useful techniques for down day hunger management.

Diet Stress

Other diets require daily reduction in calorie intake or limit the type of food eaten. This requires intricate meal plans and menus, cooking separate meals, and often more expensive foods. This wastes a lot of time and creates great stress. With the Johnson UpDayDownDay Diet™, you are allowed to eat whatever you want on the up day and your choices are greatly simplified on the down day, markedly reducing stress.

Energy level/mood

We have observed a consistent, measurable dramatic increase in energy level which is noticeable within 7-10 days which peaks around three weeks on the diet. This is consistent with animal studies in calorie restriction. This is a desirable and reinforcing sensation which encourages you to keep going.

The Up Day

On the up day, you can eat anything you want and as much as you want, but do not intentionally over eat.

When starting out, it is important to not concern yourself with up day calorie intake because of the phenomena of diet stress and diet fatigue. Focus on staying under 20-25% on the down day.

Based on animal research, the type of food eaten on the up day is unimportant compared to adhering to the down day calorie limit. This will activate genes (SIRT1) which set in motion the beneficial processes which produce optimal health.

The Down Day

It is important to commit in advance to a certain number of calories on the down day. We strongly suggest 20 – 25% for the first two weeks, but find that 30 - 35% is more tolerable for some people for a prolonged period of dieting. The lower the calories on the down day, the better, but the most important thing is to find a caloric intake you can comply with on ongoing basis.

We strongly suggest using only commercially prepared shakes in the first two weeks. Later, prepared foods with the calorie content marked on them can be eaten.. This is critically important to help guard against the universal tendency to underestimate how much we are eating.

Body Weight

How much you lose depends on several factors, the average in our study was 2.5 pounds per week, more the first week or two.

You should weigh yourself only on the morning after a down day and not more often than once a week or fluctuations will lead to frustration.

Down Day Recipes

It is important to choose a shake which is personally tolerable and satisfying. There are a number on the market including Atkins Advantage, Slim Fast Optima, MetRx. For weight loss diet, it is highly advisable that for the first two weeks, you consume only shakes on the down day.

Delicious, easy, very low calorie recipes are available in the soon to be published book, The Johnson UpDayDownDay Diet™.

What People On The Diet Have To Say
“I will never diet any other way. I lost 30 pounds three years ago which I have kept off without the awful feeling of being on the diet.” – Heidi P.
“There was never a time in my entire life when I wasn’t wheezing from asthma until after being on the diet for two weeks.” – Theresa G.
“I couldn’t walk 50 feet without resting. After three weeks on the diet, I spent all day walking around the shopping mall.” – Ellen M.
“My rheumatoid arthritis got better 31 days after starting the diet.” – Judy L.

For more information, visit Dr. Johnson's website, or read his book,
"The Alternate-Day Diet: Turn on Your 'Skinny Gene,' Shed the Pounds, and Live a Longer and Healthier Life."

Dovelette · 07-01-2009, 04:29 AM

subbing

LBishop · 07-01-2009, 04:42 AM

subbing.

Trishagrrl · 07-01-2009, 05:42 AM

Good Morning!

Hope everyone has a fabulous day! UD for me YAY

Weasel- Thanks for starting the July thread!

Dovelette · 07-01-2009, 05:47 AM

Me too Trish! I had a protein shake and bacon for breakfast and my first ever Muffin in a Minute for a snack. Ready for sausage, onions and peppers for lunch (hubbys dinner last night, which LOVINGLY cooked while sipping a protein shake). Still hoping we can find lettuce cause I want a big fat salad!

NoSugarShell · 07-01-2009, 05:54 AM

Hey JUDDDERS!!

Well, I really struggled yesterday with my DD. I was going to do a water fast, but ended up having a fage 2% with some PB2 before I left work to hold me over. Surprisingly, that held me over for the rest of the night. Yea!!

I have been a little discouraged as it seems my weight loss has slowed from 3 lbs a month to about 1 lb a month. I have thought about doing 2 DD's in row to speed things up, but after reading the posts from Kisha and Leo I think I will not do that. That might just be too much.

I am doing a MD today, since I want Saturday to be an UD.

Happy JUDDDing everyone!!

Trishagrrl · 07-01-2009, 06:10 AM

Dove- your posts make me hungry! lol

Michelle- I'm sure it's hard to see weight loss slow down, BUT you are soooo close to goal. I'm sure your body is just fighting you because it doesn't want to let go of the last pound or two. Don't get discouraged, just keep it up and it will come off eventually

Leo41 · 07-01-2009, 07:03 AM

Weasel-

Thanks for starting the new thread for July. I'm sure Kisha won't mind. As you know, she's on the West Coast and doesn't get on until later in the day.

Michelle-

I really think you've slowed because your weight is so low right now. I know you want to lose more (and I don't blame you!), but losing those final pounds so slowly probably guarantees that they will remain off. Another point to consider is what Naomi [I think it was her] posted a while ago about goal weight. She pointed out that women's weight tends to fluctuate because of water retention and hormonal issues, so it's best to target a number BUT consider oneself at "goal" within 10 lbs of that number. For example, if your goal is 115, then anything between 110 and 120 would be OK on any given day, but if the scale showed over 120, it would be time to restrict calories again. Her formula makes sense to me because I know that I can fluctuate 5 pounds within one day.

giJ · 07-01-2009, 07:32 AM

HAPPY JULY EVERYONE. Here's to a great month!

Vesna ~ thanks for getting us started.

DD today. I'm going to work on some packing (I'm moving at the end of the month), so I'm hoping to stay busy enough to not notice that it's a DD.

snaggle · 07-01-2009, 08:12 AM

THanks Weasel and welcome everybody. I just re-read my first post of June and checked my food/weight diary. 5.5 lbs lost. I did not stick to my goal and completely eliminate sugar and white flour, but did stick to the true alternation.
July will be harder than June because we have a lot of stuff planned including this 4th weekend. I will be happy if I can just drop another 4 lbs.
I also realized towards the end of June that my up days were creeping up and I was having too many big ones. Goal for July is to keep them under 1800 and since we have more stuff going on this month than in June, I hope to use the medium day as a tool to get thru the weekends without really blowing it.

Good luck everyone. Let's all have great success in July and lots of summer fun!

Leo41 · 07-01-2009, 08:16 AM

DD for me, too, and staying busy really helps.

Today I had something that I've had before but never shared. I buy V-8 low sodium vegetable juice because I often use it as a base when making pot roast and other slow-cooked meats--it makes a nice sauce.

But 8 oz has only 50 calories, and I've made a DD 'cocktail' with 4 oz and a splash of hot sauce. That's only about 30 cal., and it's amazingly satisfying--it's thick, and I sip it slowly. I just had one for 'lunch.'

Snaggle- Congratulations on that June loss--that's terrific!

NoSugarShell · 07-01-2009, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Leo41

Weasel-

Thanks for starting the new thread for July. I'm sure Kisha won't mind. As you know, she's on the West Coast and doesn't get on until later in the day.

Michelle-

I really think you've slowed because your weight is so low right now. I know you want to lose more (and I don't blame you!), but losing those final pounds so slowly probably guarantees that they will remain off. Another point to consider is what Naomi [I think it was her] posted a while ago about goal weight. She pointed out that women's weight tends to fluctuate because of water retention and hormonal issues, so it's best to target a number BUT consider oneself at "goal" within 10 lbs of that number. For example, if your goal is 115, then anything between 110 and 120 would be OK on any given day, but if the scale showed over 120, it would be time to restrict calories again. Her formula makes sense to me because I know that I can fluctuate 5 pounds within one day.

Yes, I am thinking that is why my weight loss has slowed so much. I don't think I will be happy with 110-120, but I would like to have a range, since my weight can literally jump 7 lbs in one day. I am thinking more like 105-115. I will just have to be content with losing it really slow. I agree that it is more likely to stick if it's a slow weight loss.

Ilpirata · 07-01-2009, 09:35 AM

O darn i had a bunch of people to reply to but most of them were on the other thread...

Thanks for starting the new thread - of course I don't mind weasel starting it...

Congrats on the losses Snaggle & Dovelette! We've got a good little group going here.

Michelle... i agree with leo that its how close you are to goal. I know it must be frustrating but I think that we must all brace ourselves for snail like losses when we are within our ideal range. Just stick with it and I know you'll get where you need to.

And I can't remember who all else i needed to respond to darn it!

Ilpirata · 07-01-2009, 09:38 AM

Well, I'm not down i weight really... i think i started last month at 196 but that was a post vacay bounce up. I'm starting July at 190.2 after finally getting my meds adjusted up and recovering from a couple off plan weekends. I didn't stick with true alternation last month like I wanted to... but I stuck with JUDD as well as I could.

SO, For July...
My goals are true alternation as much as possible with no two UD in a row... at worst I'll let in a few MD. My goal weight wise is to get back down into VFT sometime this month and headed back down the scale. After a several month "stall" I'm ready to go on another good losing streak!

Happy JUDDDDing this month everyone! Here's to a great and succesfull July for all of us!

SherBel · 07-01-2009, 11:28 AM

Happy Canada Day, Happy July JUDDDing!

My goal for this month is a solid ten pounds. It's going to be interesting; my mom is coming to stay with me for ten days, and I'll have to explain to her what's happening. In a weird way, my health 'issue' (which is jaw-related) should make it easier to convince her that I need to do shakes every second day. (Mom's 79, and a bit of a handful, lol, though I love her to bits).

Doing a DD today, and all sorts of household chores, such as painting the fronts of the cabinets that I'm painting. (The doors are off, being painted separately).

Have a happy July 1st, everyone!!

weasel! · 07-01-2009, 11:32 AM

Doin' DD#12. I'll report tomorrow after weigh-in. I didn't lose at all after DD#11, which was Monday. In fact, I was up a pound, to 146. Probably because I overindulged over the weekend's two UDs. Hope to get that number moving down again.

dasiey · 07-01-2009, 11:33 AM

happy july 1st. everyone. ud today. just had a apple and some almonds. I started the month out at 146. I hope to lose a couple pounds this month.

Leo41 · 07-01-2009, 11:53 AM

Sherry-
Do you lose that quickly to set a 10 lb goal for the month? I ask because I don't want you to set yourself up for unrealistic expectations. Granted, I'm old with medical issues, so the most I've ever lost on JUDDD in one month has been 5 lbs, but even Dr. J in his book mentions for the average person to expect a loss of about 2 lbs a week--which, if steady, would be about 8 lbs for the month. If your past experience has shown you that you can lose 10 lbs in a month, then that's fine--and I'll just be jealous

Vesna-
I know I sound like a broken record with my mantra about weighing only once a week, but that's because I've had exactly the same experience without having had any overindulgence on a weekend. That is, my weigh day is Saturday, and if I weigh after a DD on Monday or Wednesday, I often see a gain. And that's dispiriting for me because I think the program isn't working all of a sudden (my basic fear). But then the following Saturday, I'll record a loss for the week. My suspicion is that the reason Dr. J mentions weighing only weekly in his book is that he knows that this system takes a while to register the true loss and that it involves a series of fluctuations in the process. I'm not telling you not to weigh; just don't try to analyze the reasons for any gain too closely. It could simply be JUDDD in action

Remykins · 07-01-2009, 11:53 AM

bookmark.

Remykins · 07-01-2009, 01:23 PM

Ok, so it is 3:20 here, and i have not been able to keep anything down. I tried eating chicken earlier and it went out and up.. yuck. So i have switched back to the tea juice mix, which actually is spicy and not that bad, but i could do without the ginger in it.

dasiey · 07-01-2009, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Remykins

Ok, so it is 3:20 here, and i have not been able to keep anything down. I tried eating chicken earlier and it went out and up.. yuck. So i have switched back to the tea juice mix, which actually is spicy and not that bad, but i could do without the ginger in it.

oh so sorry you are having a bad time. theirs always tomorrow.

CrystalPistol · 07-01-2009, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo41

DD for me, too, and staying busy really helps.

Today I had something that I've had before but never shared. I buy V-8 low sodium vegetable juice because I often use it as a base when making pot roast and other slow-cooked meats--it makes a nice sauce.

But 8 oz has only 50 calories, and I've made a DD 'cocktail' with 4 oz and a splash of hot sauce. That's only about 30 cal., and it's amazingly satisfying--it's thick, and I sip it slowly. I just had one for 'lunch.'

Great ideas! I never thought to cook with it OR have it for a DD. I'll have to remember that.

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Originally Posted by Remykins

bookmark.

Hey, I noticed you and a few others were posting for subscription purposes. Not that it really matters, but if any of you cared to know, there is a way to subscribe without posting. At the top of the thread you can click Thread Tools and then Subscribe to this Thread. Just thought I'd let you guys know. If you already knew and you prefer posting, don't mind me. I'm just rambling...

So... yesterday's AWF was AS. (almost successful... LOL!!!). I made some delicious salmon and a noodle dish. While cooking, I had a few bites. I was under 100 cals for the day. Also, this morning at 8 am I found a chewy praline treat that I had saved on my binge-day (trying not to think about that) and it was sugary, obviously carby. Since then, I have had no hunger today. I finally had some steamed veggies with cheese sauce at around 2 PM today and some strawberries (very random food, LOL) and I'm stuffed.

Anyway, I guess it's a random mix of things that can trigger cravings for me. Or for anyone I guess! I don't seem to react poorly to carbs, but some days I suppose I could. Remy made me realize that at any given time, we are in need of or overloaded with certain things. I don't know if I'll ever pinpoint why some DDs are easy and others are hard. And Lord KNOWS I react to moods. Who doesn't? LOL. Well, I've dusted myself off and I'm back on track. Enjoying my UD today and tomorrow will be a normal DD. Thanks for holding me accountable! I need it!

Remykins · 07-01-2009, 01:58 PM

Oh, i didnt know that, thanks! that means i can watch and read threads without looking silly. I can be in super secret squirrel mode...
Have you tried really tracking everything you eat (exact time too), and also writing down what time you get hungry and what you get hungry for... then looking for patterns?
For me i know cinnamon sets off cravings for vanilla a few hours later.

CrystalPistol · 07-01-2009, 03:04 PM

I used to a long time ago but didn't notice anything conclusive. Actually, before I JUDDDDED, I tracked EVERYTHING in my Flogg. It definitely helped me control the calories and it also let me put my mood/feelings down. I miss that thing. I'm gonna go get it and start using it again. Plus, I need to make sure I'm on track. It's easy to forget what you ate earlier in the day and mess up your cals, ya know?

SherBel · 07-01-2009, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo41

Sherry-
Do you lose that quickly to set a 10 lb goal for the month? I ask because I don't want you to set yourself up for unrealistic expectations. Granted, I'm old with medical issues, so the most I've ever lost on JUDDD in one month has been 5 lbs, but even Dr. J in his book mentions for the average person to expect a loss of about 2 lbs a week--which, if steady, would be about 8 lbs for the month. If your past experience has shown you that you can lose 10 lbs in a month, then that's fine--and I'll just be jealous

That's a good point, for sure; but if I don't lose ten pounds I won't get upset, I just have to have a difficult goal to make me work harder, if that makes sense. I'm STILL hovering around a set-point and it's making me crazy.

I'm also a wee bit nervous about our holidays in August; doing DDs at the lake will be 'interesting'....but I can bring my blender! I kinda depend on the shakes on DDs.

If I hit 8 pounds, I'll be thrilled, lol, and thank you for being so caring, really.

Leo41 · 07-01-2009, 03:17 PM

I don't think it has to be food that sets me off. Today is a DD, but I had a disturbing e-mail from my travel agent (issue is irrelevant to this post), and in dealing with that problem, I must have had an adrenalin surge because I felt my BP rising. When I was finished with the issue, I found myself famished!

Fortunately, it passed after a cup of hot tea, but my point is that a variety of issues in our lives can cause hunger, not just what we eat or don't eat.

GME · 07-01-2009, 03:28 PM

Remykins, I hope you feel better soon. Is your doctor a regular, plain MD doc? I've never heard of one paying that much attention to vitamins and diet.

Looks like I'm down 5 lbs for June. I bounced back up some, but I do usually do that. I know I lost some inches this month too.

I'm in for the rest of July and I hope to get under 180. I would really like to see my profile goal of 175 by my birthday on the 29th, but I just don't see that happening. I'll just focus on doing AWFs as often as possible, alternate UDs & DDs (MDs have never worked out for me), keep a handle on my UDs and not let them turn into junk-fests, and keep running.

Ilpirata · 07-01-2009, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by GME

Remykins, I hope you feel better soon. Is your doctor a regular, plain MD doc? I've never heard of one paying that much attention to vitamins and diet.

Looks like I'm down 5 lbs for June. I bounced back up some, but I do usually do that. I know I lost some inches this month too.

I'm in for the rest of July and I hope to get under 180. I would really like to see my profile goal of 175 by my birthday on the 29th, but I just don't see that happening. I'll just focus on doing AWFs as often as possible, alternate UDs & DDs (MDs have never worked out for me), keep a handle on my UDs and not let them turn into junk-fests, and keep running.

Sounds like a good plan to me! I don't know if you'll hit 175 by the 29th but its not impossible... and I know for sure you'll be closer to it! Man I just cannot wait to see the 170s (at this point I'll be happy to get back to my sig weight LOL) and I'm hoping we both get there together... AND SOON!

Remykins · 07-01-2009, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by GME

Remykins, I hope you feel better soon. Is your doctor a regular, plain MD doc? I've never heard of one paying that much attention to vitamins and diet.

No, not a plain MD. My insurance never allowed a dietitian or nutritionist, but after a wrestle with a couple serious medical diagnoses i needed to look else ware... the plain old MD's were not cutting it. So i switched insurance, and with a referral (and i huge deductible) i can go to just about anyone. I actually see 4 doctors for the same things, all specializing in something particular. Best thing i ever did, i highly recommend it.

Ilpirata · 07-01-2009, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Remykins

No, not a plain MD. My insurance never allowed a dietitian or nutritionist, but after a wrestle with a couple serious medical diagnoses i needed to look else ware... the plain old MD's were not cutting it. So i switched insurance, and with a referral (and i huge deductible) i can go to just about anyone. I actually see 4 doctors for the same things, all specializing in something particular. Best thing i ever did, i highly recommend it.

Remy forgive me and please feel free not to answer if you don't want to. I am wondering what your diagnosis is? You have mentioned before something going wrong about six months ago? I'm wondering what it is. I would hate to give you advise that wasn't appropriate for your medical condition...

07-01-2009, 05:54 AM	#6
NoSugarShell Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Hurst, TX Posts: 1,338 Gallery: NoSugarShell Stats: 138/128.8/110 5'0 WOE: JUDDD/Gluten free Start Date: Feb 25, 2013	Hey JUDDDERS!! Well, I really struggled yesterday with my DD. I was going to do a water fast, but ended up having a fage 2% with some PB2 before I left work to hold me over. Surprisingly, that held me over for the rest of the night. Yea!! I have been a little discouraged as it seems my weight loss has slowed from 3 lbs a month to about 1 lb a month. I have thought about doing 2 DD's in row to speed things up, but after reading the posts from Kisha and Leo I think I will not do that. That might just be too much. I am doing a MD today, since I want Saturday to be an UD. Happy JUDDDing everyone!! __________________ ************************************** Michelle Hypothyroid Mini-goals**: 120 115 110

07-01-2009, 09:38 AM	#14
Ilpirata Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 10,061 Gallery: Ilpirata	Happy July Well, I'm not down i weight really... i think i started last month at 196 but that was a post vacay bounce up. I'm starting July at 190.2 after finally getting my meds adjusted up and recovering from a couple off plan weekends. I didn't stick with true alternation last month like I wanted to... but I stuck with JUDD as well as I could. SO, For July... My goals are true alternation as much as possible with no two UD in a row... at worst I'll let in a few MD. My goal weight wise is to get back down into VFT sometime this month and headed back down the scale. After a several month "stall" I'm ready to go on another good losing streak! Happy JUDDDDing this month everyone! Here's to a great and succesfull July for all of us!

07-01-2009, 11:28 AM	#15
SherBel Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: British Columbia, Canada Posts: 414 Gallery: SherBel WOE: Atkins Induction-(esque) Start Date: Feb 17, 2012	Happy Canada Day, Happy July JUDDDing! My goal for this month is a solid ten pounds. It's going to be interesting; my mom is coming to stay with me for ten days, and I'll have to explain to her what's happening. In a weird way, my health 'issue' (which is jaw-related) should make it easier to convince her that I need to do shakes every second day. (Mom's 79, and a bit of a handful, lol, though I love her to bits). Doing a DD today, and all sorts of household chores, such as painting the fronts of the cabinets that I'm painting. (The doors are off, being painted separately). Have a happy July 1st, everyone!! __________________ Sherry A meatball never says, "look at me, aren't I clever?" A meatball just says, "eat me". Nigel Slater - The Kitchen Diaries

07-01-2009, 01:58 PM	#23
Remykins Major LCF Poster! Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 1,182 Gallery: Remykins Stats: 139/132/128 WOE: Low carb Start Date: May 6th 2009	Oh, i didnt know that, thanks! that means i can watch and read threads without looking silly. I can be in super secret squirrel mode... Have you tried really tracking everything you eat (exact time too), and also writing down what time you get hungry and what you get hungry for... then looking for patterns? For me i know cinnamon sets off cravings for vanilla a few hours later. Last edited by Remykins; 07-01-2009 at 02:04 PM..

07-01-2009, 03:28 PM	#27
GME Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: CA Coast Posts: 6,594 Gallery: GME Stats: 250/175/175 And again...223/208.4/146 5'7 WOE: Misc. Start Date: April 2000 (the first time)	Remykins, I hope you feel better soon. Is your doctor a regular, plain MD doc? I've never heard of one paying that much attention to vitamins and diet. Looks like I'm down 5 lbs for June. I bounced back up some, but I do usually do that. I know I lost some inches this month too. I'm in for the rest of July and I hope to get under 180. I would really like to see my profile goal of 175 by my birthday on the 29th, but I just don't see that happening. I'll just focus on doing AWFs as often as possible, alternate UDs & DDs (MDs have never worked out for me), keep a handle on my UDs and not let them turn into junk-fests, and keep running. __________________ Gina

07-01-2009, 04:29 AM	#2
Dovelette Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 1,894 Gallery: Dovelette WOE: Atkins OWL, Current HCG R1P2 Start Date: WLS 4/20/2004, Atkins 3/31/09, HCG 4/9/13	subbing

07-01-2009, 04:42 AM	#3
LBishop Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Western NC, USA Posts: 1,502 Gallery: LBishop Stats: 151.5/144/125-129 5'4" 48yo WOE: JUDDD Start Date: Restart November 2010	subbing.

07-01-2009, 05:42 AM	#4
Trishagrrl Senior LCF Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Michigan Posts: 986 Gallery: Trishagrrl	Good Morning! Hope everyone has a fabulous day! UD for me YAY Weasel- Thanks for starting the July thread!

07-01-2009, 05:47 AM	#5
Dovelette Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 1,894 Gallery: Dovelette WOE: Atkins OWL, Current HCG R1P2 Start Date: WLS 4/20/2004, Atkins 3/31/09, HCG 4/9/13	Me too Trish! I had a protein shake and bacon for breakfast and my first ever Muffin in a Minute for a snack. Ready for sausage, onions and peppers for lunch (hubbys dinner last night, which LOVINGLY cooked while sipping a protein shake). Still hoping we can find lettuce cause I want a big fat salad!

07-01-2009, 06:10 AM	#7
Trishagrrl Senior LCF Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Michigan Posts: 986 Gallery: Trishagrrl	Dove- your posts make me hungry! lol Michelle- I'm sure it's hard to see weight loss slow down, BUT you are soooo close to goal. I'm sure your body is just fighting you because it doesn't want to let go of the last pound or two. Don't get discouraged, just keep it up and it will come off eventually

07-01-2009, 07:03 AM	#8
Leo41 Senior LCF member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 8,426 Gallery: Leo41 Stats: 340 then/145 now WOE: Low carb/calorie cycling	Weasel- Thanks for starting the new thread for July. I'm sure Kisha won't mind. As you know, she's on the West Coast and doesn't get on until later in the day. Michelle- I really think you've slowed because your weight is so low right now. I know you want to lose more (and I don't blame you!), but losing those final pounds so slowly probably guarantees that they will remain off. Another point to consider is what Naomi [I think it was her] posted a while ago about goal weight. She pointed out that women's weight tends to fluctuate because of water retention and hormonal issues, so it's best to target a number BUT consider oneself at "goal" within 10 lbs of that number. For example, if your goal is 115, then anything between 110 and 120 would be OK on any given day, but if the scale showed over 120, it would be time to restrict calories again. Her formula makes sense to me because I know that I can fluctuate 5 pounds within one day.

07-01-2009, 07:32 AM	#9
giJ Major LCF Poster! Join Date: May 2004 Location: NOVA Posts: 1,098 Gallery: giJ Stats: Size 18W+/8 WOE: My own - low carb, high fat, calorie controlled Start Date: You mean this time? 9 Jan 2012	HAPPY JULY EVERYONE. Here's to a great month! Vesna ~ thanks for getting us started. DD today. I'm going to work on some packing (I'm moving at the end of the month), so I'm hoping to stay busy enough to not notice that it's a DD.

07-01-2009, 08:12 AM	#10
snaggle Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: seattle Posts: 1,451 Gallery: snaggle WOE: juddd-5:2	THanks Weasel and welcome everybody. I just re-read my first post of June and checked my food/weight diary. 5.5 lbs lost. I did not stick to my goal and completely eliminate sugar and white flour, but did stick to the true alternation. July will be harder than June because we have a lot of stuff planned including this 4th weekend. I will be happy if I can just drop another 4 lbs. I also realized towards the end of June that my up days were creeping up and I was having too many big ones. Goal for July is to keep them under 1800 and since we have more stuff going on this month than in June, I hope to use the medium day as a tool to get thru the weekends without really blowing it. Good luck everyone. Let's all have great success in July and lots of summer fun!

07-01-2009, 08:16 AM	#11
Leo41 Senior LCF member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 8,426 Gallery: Leo41 Stats: 340 then/145 now WOE: Low carb/calorie cycling	DD for me, too, and staying busy really helps. Today I had something that I've had before but never shared. I buy V-8 low sodium vegetable juice because I often use it as a base when making pot roast and other slow-cooked meats--it makes a nice sauce. But 8 oz has only 50 calories, and I've made a DD 'cocktail' with 4 oz and a splash of hot sauce. That's only about 30 cal., and it's amazingly satisfying--it's thick, and I sip it slowly. I just had one for 'lunch.' Snaggle- Congratulations on that June loss--that's terrific! Last edited by Leo41; 07-01-2009 at 08:17 AM..

07-01-2009, 09:35 AM	#13
Ilpirata Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 10,061 Gallery: Ilpirata	O darn i had a bunch of people to reply to but most of them were on the other thread... Thanks for starting the new thread - of course I don't mind weasel starting it... Congrats on the losses Snaggle & Dovelette! We've got a good little group going here. Michelle... i agree with leo that its how close you are to goal. I know it must be frustrating but I think that we must all brace ourselves for snail like losses when we are within our ideal range. Just stick with it and I know you'll get where you need to. And I can't remember who all else i needed to respond to darn it!

07-01-2009, 11:32 AM	#16
weasel! MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Madison, Wisconsin Posts: 1,139 Gallery: weasel! Stats: 153/138/125; 5'7", small frame WOE: JUDDDD/EFGT/WAPF/whole foods Start Date: recommitted to LC 3/11/07; start JUDDDD 6/08/09	Doin' DD#12. I'll report tomorrow after weigh-in. I didn't lose at all after DD#11, which was Monday. In fact, I was up a pound, to 146. Probably because I overindulged over the weekend's two UDs. Hope to get that number moving down again.

07-01-2009, 11:33 AM	#17
dasiey Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 6,105 Gallery: dasiey WOE: Juddd Start Date: 11/13/2011	happy july 1st. everyone. ud today. just had a apple and some almonds. I started the month out at 146. I hope to lose a couple pounds this month.

07-01-2009, 11:53 AM	#18
Leo41 Senior LCF member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 8,426 Gallery: Leo41 Stats: 340 then/145 now WOE: Low carb/calorie cycling	Sherry- Do you lose that quickly to set a 10 lb goal for the month? I ask because I don't want you to set yourself up for unrealistic expectations. Granted, I'm old with medical issues, so the most I've ever lost on JUDDD in one month has been 5 lbs, but even Dr. J in his book mentions for the average person to expect a loss of about 2 lbs a week--which, if steady, would be about 8 lbs for the month. If your past experience has shown you that you can lose 10 lbs in a month, then that's fine--and I'll just be jealous Vesna- I know I sound like a broken record with my mantra about weighing only once a week, but that's because I've had exactly the same experience without having had any overindulgence on a weekend. That is, my weigh day is Saturday, and if I weigh after a DD on Monday or Wednesday, I often see a gain. And that's dispiriting for me because I think the program isn't working all of a sudden (my basic fear). But then the following Saturday, I'll record a loss for the week. My suspicion is that the reason Dr. J mentions weighing only weekly in his book is that he knows that this system takes a while to register the true loss and that it involves a series of fluctuations in the process. I'm not telling you not to weigh; just don't try to analyze the reasons for any gain too closely. It could simply be JUDDD in action

07-01-2009, 01:23 PM	#20
Remykins Major LCF Poster! Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 1,182 Gallery: Remykins Stats: 139/132/128 WOE: Low carb Start Date: May 6th 2009	Ok, so it is 3:20 here, and i have not been able to keep anything down. I tried eating chicken earlier and it went out and up.. yuck. So i have switched back to the tea juice mix, which actually is spicy and not that bad, but i could do without the ginger in it.

07-01-2009, 03:04 PM	#24
CrystalPistol Junior LCF Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 489 Gallery: CrystalPistol Stats: 276/260.4/135 5'5" WOE: Intermittent Fasting Start Date: 05/31/2011	I used to a long time ago but didn't notice anything conclusive. Actually, before I JUDDDDED, I tracked EVERYTHING in my Flogg. It definitely helped me control the calories and it also let me put my mood/feelings down. I miss that thing. I'm gonna go get it and start using it again. Plus, I need to make sure I'm on track. It's easy to forget what you ate earlier in the day and mess up your cals, ya know?

07-01-2009, 03:17 PM	#26
Leo41 Senior LCF member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 8,426 Gallery: Leo41 Stats: 340 then/145 now WOE: Low carb/calorie cycling	I don't think it has to be food that sets me off. Today is a DD, but I had a disturbing e-mail from my travel agent (issue is irrelevant to this post), and in dealing with that problem, I must have had an adrenalin surge because I felt my BP rising. When I was finished with the issue, I found myself famished! Fortunately, it passed after a cup of hot tea, but my point is that a variety of issues in our lives can cause hunger, not just what we eat or don't eat.

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