July JUDDDD / Alternate Day Diet 2009

[spiralsky]

I was just thinking about this double dipping thing and I'm thinking: If I ate an extra 700 calories b/c I burned them off in exercise - THEN it would be double dipping - and totally offset the lower calories.

[dasiey]

Originally Posted by spiralsky

I was just thinking about this double dipping thing and I'm thinking: If I ate an extra 700 calories b/c I burned them off in exercise - THEN it would be double dipping - and totally offset the lower calories.

thats how I see it to.

[Leo41]

Personally, I never count exercise when I calculate my daily calories--mainly because my metabolism is so slow that I don't trust any of those charts that give the number of calories expended. I exercise for health, although my endo suggests that a good aerobic workout might stimulate my sluggish metabolism--I'm hoping!

[oobladee]

me 2 Leo...the day I released the fact that exercise cals have anything much to do with scale movement, I focused on eating less primarily and became more successful at losing weight!

Exercise's benefits are VAST - I am an addict in fact. But, count weight loss near the bottom of the list for me. In fact most people do not perform significant amounts of exercise to burn all that much, so most of you out there in TV Land can pretty much drop the belief as well!

Caveat: competition-level athletes, yes, DO burn enough to matter and actually need to eat more food! But the rest of us burning 200-500 cals - my advice is to faggedaboudit. Chances are very great that we all under state or miscalculate serving sizes anyway and any exercise at that level just covers those errors. Studies show that in fact - even RD's under estimate cals eaten.

I mean, you WILL get more toned and build muscle, blah blah blah, but by and large, you are not making headway in actually burning enough cals to get real excited about!

[cristaljoy]

hey everybody!

i've been JUDDDing for the last week and following all yr posts

great conversations going on here

i don't enter my elliptical sessions in ****** either because i can usually only make it to 20 minutes... it's just enough to remind me of how far i have to go, and how yes... 100 calories IS a big deal

[Ilpirata]

Originally Posted by cristaljoy

hey everybody!

i've been JUDDDing for the last week and following all yr posts

great conversations going on here

i don't enter my elliptical sessions in ****** either because i can usually only make it to 20 minutes... it's just enough to remind me of how far i have to go, and how yes... 100 calories IS a big deal

Hey girl, welcome to the thread! I think its good just to quietly take the benefit of the exercise but not try to get back the calories by eating them up know what I mean?

[oobladee]

Just to poke my head in: 3rd day of Fast 5 (last Friday, Monday and today; weekend days off, both UD's)


I would rate it as highly as the JUDDD so far. I feel pretty darn good, very little hunger. Day One was last Friday and it was the worst - felt kind of low blood sugary, just a bit irritated (no hunger, though) for a period of time, but got past it pretty quickly.

The average cals from Friday to tonight will be 1340. I shoudl lose weight doing this...and truly not hard on me. Today I feel awesome..I allowed a raw squash to break my fast but seriously could have gone without it til supper!

[GME]

Originally Posted by cristaljoy

hey everybody!

i've been JUDDDing for the last week and following all yr posts

great conversations going on here

i don't enter my elliptical sessions in ****** either because i can usually only make it to 20 minutes... it's just enough to remind me of how far i have to go, and how yes... 100 calories IS a big deal

[spiralsky]

Hi cristaljoy,

Yes, I hear you, 100 calories is totally a big deal! Here's an interesting tidbit: woman who regularly walked 45 minutes compared to women who walked half an hour burned a lot more fat than would be expected based on the number of calories they burned. There's a kind of x-factor involved with exercise that is not just about the number of calories burned - that seems to take effect with longer cardio - it's something to aspire to, I think, even if you are going slower, you will burn more fat by doing a longer duration. It may have something to do with the way the body starts tapping into the fat after 20 minutes of cardio.

Well, I messed up my DD today. A bite of my daughter's lunch was my downfall. So, I started my fast at around 4:15 today, plan to water fast until a DD dinner tomorrow and then back into true alternation! I can do this !!!

[dasiey]

Originally Posted by cristaljoy

hey everybody!

i've been JUDDDing for the last week and following all yr posts

great conversations going on here

i don't enter my elliptical sessions in ****** either because i can usually only make it to 20 minutes... it's just enough to remind me of how far i have to go, and how yes... 100 calories IS a big deal

[Dovelette]

**NOTE: THE INFORMATION DISCUSSED BELOW IS NOT PART OF THE JUDDD PLAN!**

Hey so I'm curious if anyone has read anything about the plan by Dr. Eades (Protein Power) called PSMF (Protein Sparing Modified Fast)?

The Steaks Are High: Protein Sparing Modified Fast = Fast Weight Loss!

Here are the basics (BTW I'm only bringing this up for JUDDD since it seems to be a very good DD option):

- Four protein shakes throughout the day
- Dinner made up of 6-8 ounces of meat and a large salad OR 2 cups of low carb veggies

It also seems to say you don't need 4 shakes, you just use them to supplement your protein intake for the day. For example, I like to eat about 90 -1 20g protein a day. So I would probably do 2 shakes (300 calories, 60g protein) or turn them into 4 mini shakes and then 6 oz chicken for dinner (200 calories, 33g protein) and lets say you do 2c of cabbage (36 calories) or a big salad (20 calories)...so it may put you over by 20 calories or so (though you could cut the chicken down to 4oz really, which would be 150 cal and 25g protein). My DD calories are 480, but most folks don't need/want as much protein as me so it'd be easy to cut calories by having smaller shakes.

Anyway...for those of you that lift weights it seems like this might be a good DD plan, or at least for me it looks pretty good. Glam this might be something good for you to look at too. I know lots of folks combine plans like Fast Five, Low Carb, AWFs or Food Combining (NONE of which, BTW are JUDDD but many of us find they are excellent "companions") and thought I would throw out this option since it seems to fit REALLY well with JUDDD, "saves" muscle AND is VLC.

PLEASE REMEMBER! This "tweak" is NOT JUDDD. It is just an idea to use WITH JUDDD. (BTW I really think the disclaimers are good ideas, that was a good suggestion)

Any thoughts?

[dreamer girl]

Dasiey what a beautiful g-babyWelcome, cristaljoyI didn't do so well on my Dd yesterday.I had 700 calories instead of 500I am going to eat lower calories today than I normally do on an UD and have a good DD tomorrow.I want to see that scale go down on SunI think I need to drink more water on my DD's too so I won't be so hungry.I really haven't been doing that

[scandalouslyglam]

Good Morning!!

Today is DD#1.

I am having coffee (3 cups) with 3 Tbspoons Light Cream ...............120 Cals
Home Brewed tea over Ice........(according to fat Secret)....................9 Cals
2 Pre-measured baggies JRobb whey shake mix................110Cal/x2..220 Cals

I will mix the powder in a shaker cup with ice and water at work as needed. I guess That leaves me plenty of calories to eat/drink another shake at Dinner time.

I am worried about Going overboard tomorrow...I am just not great at Moderation. However I did promise to do my best for the 14 week induction (AT LEAST) to give myself time to really see if this can work for me.

[weasel!]

Dreamer girl, careful, don't fall into the trap of not eating enough on your UDs in order to "make up" for a DD that wasn't as low as you wanted it to be. I think it is the contrast between having plenty to eat and eating hardly anything on alternate days that shakes up your metabolism and makes this plan work. If you deprive yourself on an UD you'll be setting yourself up for the struggle I've seen many people going through, where they don't meet their goal DD after DD, and eat little on the UDs. The most important thing is good, low DDs. The best way to set yourself up for a good, low DD is to have a satisfying UD.

In other words, if you keep your UD low, it'll be hard to keep your DD as low as it should be.

Worse, you could slow down your metabolism so that your overall low caloric intake will not induce fat loss, but just the opposite, fat retention.

So, enjoy your UD freedom, and plan ahead for a low DD!


Scandalouslyglam, good luck! If you get really hungry, just remember, you can do ANYTHING for one day. And it does get easier. You can tough it out. Sounds like you have a lot of protein going there. Remember to have plenty of fat (I take in as much fat as possible, percentagewise, on DDs) for maximum satiety. Other things might take up more space on the plate and seem like they'll be more filling, but it's hard to beat the staying power of a couple of hard-boiled eggs.

[scandalouslyglam]

Thanks Vesna,

I would prefer hard boiled eggs for dinner. I need the extra protein because Like Dove I am a post-op Gastric Bypass Girl. Our protein requirements are a little different.

I like your comment "You can do anything for one day." It's a GREAT motto.

Thankyou!!

[cagmom]

Good Morning Ladies

Weather here on the cape is getting Hot & Humid,we have to put the other A/C in their rooms. We were so lucky for the past 2 month with decent breathing weather,but I guess it summer so why complain.

I had a little surprise when going on the scale this morning I lost 4 of the 8 lbs that I gained on the cruise,hope the rest will be off by the time of my official W-I this Monday.

One thing I found that I didn't feel deprived on yesterday DD.But now this morning I felt hungry and got up early to have a UD breakfast.I was aiming for 2000 cal, for the day,but according to my food journal I'm lucky to have 1770 down.

Welcome Scandalous (I too love that name) and cagmom! Good luck on your first DD!

ILPIRATAL-Thanks I had a great day,hope tomoorw will be as easy as it was yesterday.

Dreamer girl, careful, don't fall into the trap of not eating enough on your UDs in order to "make up" for a DD that wasn't as low as you wanted it to be. I think it is the contrast between having plenty to eat and eating hardly anything on alternate days that shakes up your metabolism and makes this plan work. If you deprive yourself on an UD you'll be setting yourself up for the struggle I've seen many people going through, where they don't meet their goal DD after DD, and eat little on the UDs. The most important thing is good, low DDs. The best way to set yourself up for a good, low DD is to have a satisfying UD.

WEASEL-I'm new here,but I agree with your 100% of what your told Dreamer girl.I had 570 cal on my DD and to day I'm up to 1770. Don't think one day is going to hurt ,if you do it every day that's a different story.

[scandalouslyglam]

CAG, My Inlaws live in Mattapoissett MA. (Sp?) we were going to drive down this weekend but My Hubby has to work alot

I'm very excited about this new way of eating!!!

[cristaljoy]

thanks for all the warm welcomes!

is anyone else finding themselves dreading UDs?

DDs are becoming easy as i just drink water and coffee (with real sugar yay!)

but on UDs i get this ridiculous panicky feeling that i must eat everything in sight

it's not that i'm really hungry, i guess it's just the same old food issues

[Trishagrrl]

Happy Wednesday JUDDD'ers,

Rough night for me last night, not much sleep. I think I'm going to forego the gym today (though I feel like a total slacker doing it). It's a DD for me and I know I'm going to need my energy just to get through the day.

Dove: Sounds like a very complementary plan to JUDDD. Actually, when I lift weights on DD's thats fairly similar to how I eat. I typically have a protein shake (1/2 before and 1/2 after working out). Then I typically eat a chicken breast and salad or veggie at dinner.

Cagmom: Congrats on the 4 lb weight loss. I'm sure a big part of your cruise weight gain was water, but I know it's always nice to see it come off.

Dasiey: Beautiful beautiful baby picture!

Scanalouslyglam: What's the fat secret iced tea?! I love iced tea, makes me wonder if I can lose some weight just by drinking some special tea

[Trishagrrl]

Originally Posted by cristaljoy

is anyone else finding themselves dreading UDs?

The only thing I dread about UD's in the END of them!!!

[cristaljoy]

Originally Posted by Trishagrrl

The only thing I dread about UD's in the END of them!!!

i know, i know!

but it's like i start the day off all calm and controlled; "i will enjoy food but eat just for the sake of eating"

which turns into "well i might as well taste this now because tomorrow i won't be able to"

and it goes downhill from there, ending in tears and icecream
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it's actually not that bad at all, i think i'm exaggerating

i'm really quite excited about this woe

i'm not doing LC at all because though i know it's healthy and it works, i absolutely loathe steak and burgers and all that

[nitenurse]

For what it's worth, I do enjoy the dds, don't have to think about food!yay!
On the up days, I'm low carbing, but I make sure I eat something that tastes good to me that day, (last time it was a low carb not lasagna, with yam noodles, but I had the italian fix). Also have found some 1 carb bread, so had toast and sausage and egg whites. Didn't feel deprived at all when the dd rolled around, just kind of relieved. My digestion appreciates the dds, too.

[onceNforall]

to all the newcomers!!

I had my first disastrous DD yesterday (#6). I have been struggling with really out of control UD's and haven't been able to get that in control yet. Had a good DD on Sunday, but still saw a slight gain Monday morning on the scale (I never weigh after UD's ). I guess that was really discouraging and had a great DD planned yesterday and did fine until my daughter asked me to babysit and had no time between my day job and getting to her house for what I had planned for dinner and used it as an excuse to stop for fast food instead. I could have easily grabbed one of my Atkins shakes, but didn't.

So now is when I would normally throw in the towel and say...this WOE doesn't work for me. BUT gonna try to have a MD today and a clean DD tomorrow and try to get these UD's under control. I know this plan can work for me...can't let one little slip ruin everything.

[Dovelette]

DD#9 for me...had a post-workout protein shake, will have another one around...wow it's already 1:30??? Man I haven't been hungry yet! Er, so maybe around 3...then 4-6oz of chicken and stir fry cabbage for dinner. That's my favorite DD dinner (soy sauce, ginger and hot sauce, drop of splenda to stir fry stuff in)

[GME]

Originally Posted by scandalouslyglam

Good Morning!!

Today is DD#1.

I am having coffee (3 cups) with 3 Tbspoons Light Cream ...............120 Cals
Home Brewed tea over Ice........(according to fat Secret)....................9 Cals
2 Pre-measured baggies JRobb whey shake mix................110Cal/x2..220 Cals

Sounds like a good DD. I like the shakes with almond milk too. If I remember correctly, that adds 40 cals per cup. I like the ice in them in a blender. It seems to bulk them up.

Originally Posted by weasel!

Dreamer girl, careful, don't fall into the trap of not eating enough on your UDs in order to "make up" for a DD that wasn't as low as you wanted it to be. I think it is the contrast between having plenty to eat and eating hardly anything on alternate days that shakes up your metabolism and makes this plan work.

it's hard to beat the staying power of a couple of hard-boiled eggs.

I totally agree with both of these.

Originally Posted by cagmom

Good Morning Ladies
I had a little surprise when going on the scale this morning I lost 4 of the 8 lbs that I gained on the cruise

Woo Hoo!!!!

Originally Posted by cristaljoy

is anyone else finding themselves dreading UDs?

No! But I do understand. I think one of the reasons I like this plan so much is I HATE to count calories, carbs, whatever. I fast as much as possible on DDs and rarely count UDs (once in a while as a check-in). I am relived not not have to think about food all the time. One day I don't eat it and one day I make good choices.

Originally Posted by nitenurse

For what it's worth, I do enjoy the dds, don't have to think about food!yay!
On the up days, I'm low carbing, but I make sure I eat something that tastes good to me that day

Me too.

Originally Posted by onceNforall

I had my first disastrous DD yesterday (#6). I have been struggling with really out of control UD's and haven't been able to get that in control yet. Had a good DD on Sunday, but still saw a slight gain Monday morning on the scale (I never weigh after UD's ). I guess that was really discouraging and had a great DD planned yesterday and did fine until my daughter asked me to babysit and had no time between my day job and getting to her house for what I had planned for dinner and used it as an excuse to stop for fast food instead. I could have easily grabbed one of my Atkins shakes, but didn't.

So now is when I would normally throw in the towel and say...this WOE doesn't work for me. BUT gonna try to have a MD today and a clean DD tomorrow and try to get these UD's under control. I know this plan can work for me...can't let one little slip ruin everything.

I think everyone had failed DDs in the beginning (I continue to now and again) and I know it took me awhile to NOT treat the UDs as a chance to eat everything I've been missing for the past two years.

If you need something while you are out, Subway has some good low cal choices. I hadn't paid attention to calorie counts in years so I had no idea.

****

DD for me today. I have a good feeling about VFT by the end of the week. I am only up 1.5 lbs off my low and yesterday was an UD. I could use some of those good VFT vibes for tomorrow morning's weigh-in.

I didn't feel well last night and had a pretty small dinner for an UD. I can feel it now. I'm having some coffee and then I'll head out for a short run. Running usually takes my appetite away for awhile. I'll have a Powerade when I get back.

I'm not sure what to do about Friday. It is scheduled to be a DD. DH is off (furloughed state worker) and we are planning on going hiking (free) and to a concert at the Boardwalk (also free), but we may stop for a the $20 dinner for two special at Chili's (and drink water- look how frugal I have become). He wouldn't care if we did dinner another night, but that is a long day with a lot of activity. On one hand, being busy will make it easier not to eat. But on the other, it would be nice to just enjoy. But I'm so close to VFT I don't want to miss it. But, but, but Yikes, I just remembered Saturday needs to be an UD because I'm running in a 6 mile race Sunday morning. Double OK, I'll leave Friday a DD and we'll do Chili's on Saturday. Whew, that's settled.

Have a great day everyone!

[oobladee]

Hi Friends! All this talk of failed DD's...just try to plan for "those days"...they are going to occur here and there so if we steel our attitudes toward punting in those situations rather than doing the Fatchick Salute (arm thrown over forehead and head back in a wail).

I encourage those who have not tracked their food formally like in ftday or dailyplate or??? to do so. It is uber encouraging to see a "failed" DD and compare it to a week of good days: the net effect is NOT that bad. Certainly many of us are better off than if we kept on pulling into fast food driveways or putting our heads in bags of chips!!

Please, don't make this a series of Oopsies and Woohoos...it's only food, so let's just put on our science glasses and analyze it! Keep those emotions down!

[Ilpirata]

Originally Posted by Dovelette

**NOTE: THE INFORMATION DISCUSSED BELOW IS NOT PART OF THE JUDDD PLAN!**

Hey so I'm curious if anyone has read anything about the plan by Dr. Eades (Protein Power) called PSMF (Protein Sparing Modified Fast)?

The Steaks Are High: Protein Sparing Modified Fast = Fast Weight Loss!

Here are the basics (BTW I'm only bringing this up for JUDDD since it seems to be a very good DD option):

- Four protein shakes throughout the day
- Dinner made up of 6-8 ounces of meat and a large salad OR 2 cups of low carb veggies

It also seems to say you don't need 4 shakes, you just use them to supplement your protein intake for the day. For example, I like to eat about 90 -1 20g protein a day. So I would probably do 2 shakes (300 calories, 60g protein) or turn them into 4 mini shakes and then 6 oz chicken for dinner (200 calories, 33g protein) and lets say you do 2c of cabbage (36 calories) or a big salad (20 calories)...so it may put you over by 20 calories or so (though you could cut the chicken down to 4oz really, which would be 150 cal and 25g protein). My DD calories are 480, but most folks don't need/want as much protein as me so it'd be easy to cut calories by having smaller shakes.

Anyway...for those of you that lift weights it seems like this might be a good DD plan, or at least for me it looks pretty good. Glam this might be something good for you to look at too. I know lots of folks combine plans like Fast Five, Low Carb, AWFs or Food Combining (NONE of which, BTW are JUDDD but many of us find they are excellent "companions") and thought I would throw out this option since it seems to fit REALLY well with JUDDD, "saves" muscle AND is VLC.

PLEASE REMEMBER! This "tweak" is NOT JUDDD. It is just an idea to use WITH JUDDD. (BTW I really think the disclaimers are good ideas, that was a good suggestion)

Any thoughts?

My Thoughts: This seems like a good option for DD... I am familiar with PSMF and like Stillmans and the Fat Fast I believe they are unhealthy when done for the longterm... meaning longer than a short 2-5 day period. HOWEVER with JUDD we are free to impliment some of these more "extreme" ways of eating on our DDs because the every other day nature of JUDD mitigates the harmfulness of long term low cal low carb eating. As we all know long term low cal and low carb eating (the two combined) is unhealthy. In fact I think I contributed to the death of my thyroid through some extreme low carb low cal dieting for a way too long of a period.

Originally Posted by dreamer girl

Dasiey what a beautiful g-babyWelcome, cristaljoyI didn't do so well on my Dd yesterday.I had 700 calories instead of 500I am going to eat lower calories today than I normally do on an UD and have a good DD tomorrow.I want to see that scale go down on SunI think I need to drink more water on my DD's too so I won't be so hungry.I really haven't been doing that

Don't beat yourself up over an extra 200 calories! Enjoy your UD as usual don't limit yourself. Focus on a good clean 500 cal on your NEXT DD instead.

Originally Posted by scandalouslyglam

Good Morning!!

Today is DD#1.

I am having coffee (3 cups) with 3 Tbspoons Light Cream ...............120 Cals
Home Brewed tea over Ice........(according to fat Secret)....................9 Cals
2 Pre-measured baggies JRobb whey shake mix................110Cal/x2..220 Cals

I will mix the powder in a shaker cup with ice and water at work as needed. I guess That leaves me plenty of calories to eat/drink another shake at Dinner time.

I am worried about Going overboard tomorrow...I am just not great at Moderation. However I did promise to do my best for the 14 week induction (AT LEAST) to give myself time to really see if this can work for me.

Sounds like a good plan. For me the first DD was one of the hardest and I've been doing this for over six months. They really DO get easier I swear. Don't worry too much about your UD. In the begining induction period its best to focus on really getting the DD right and then enjoying the UDs and letting them fall where they may. After induction your SIRT1 gene will be activated and if you think you are eating too much on UD that will be the time to address it.

Originally Posted by cristaljoy

thanks for all the warm welcomes!

is anyone else finding themselves dreading UDs?

DDs are becoming easy as i just drink water and coffee (with real sugar yay!)

but on UDs i get this ridiculous panicky feeling that i must eat everything in sight

it's not that i'm really hungry, i guess it's just the same old food issues

Yeah, there is something much easier about DDs on this WOE. Especially on WF or AWF its like "i'll eat tomorrow" and not eating today just takes care of itself. I can totally relate to the food panic thing on UD too. Honestly since you are just starting see my comments above and don't put too much UD pressure on yourself. Do your DD right and enjoy your UD to the fullest. Also the only way I have found to REALLY control UD is to basically plan it out in advance a la Leo.

Originally Posted by onceNforall

to all the newcomers!!

I had my first disastrous DD yesterday (#6). I have been struggling with really out of control UD's and haven't been able to get that in control yet. Had a good DD on Sunday, but still saw a slight gain Monday morning on the scale (I never weigh after UD's ). I guess that was really discouraging and had a great DD planned yesterday and did fine until my daughter asked me to babysit and had no time between my day job and getting to her house for what I had planned for dinner and used it as an excuse to stop for fast food instead. I could have easily grabbed one of my Atkins shakes, but didn't.

So now is when I would normally throw in the towel and say...this WOE doesn't work for me. BUT gonna try to have a MD today and a clean DD tomorrow and try to get these UD's under control. I know this plan can work for me...can't let one little slip ruin everything.

IT HAPPENS! Its happen to just about all of us I'm sure. Sometimes DD don't work out. Sometimes DD turn into UD. The beauty of this plan is that every single day is a new chance to start right over with a clean MD or DD. I've fallen off SEVERAL TIMES over the last seven months and have seen the punishment on the scale. Each time though I've managed to get back on track and JUDD has been very forgiving of these types of slips.

Originally Posted by GME

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DD for me today. I have a good feeling about VFT by the end of the week. I am only up 1.5 lbs off my low and yesterday was an UD. I could use some of those good VFT vibes for tomorrow morning's weigh-in.

I didn't feel well last night and had a pretty small dinner for an UD. I can feel it now. I'm having some coffee and then I'll head out for a short run. Running usually takes my appetite away for awhile. I'll have a Powerade when I get back.

I'm not sure what to do about Friday. It is scheduled to be a DD. DH is off (furloughed state worker) and we are planning on going hiking (free) and to a concert at the Boardwalk (also free), but we may stop for a the $20 dinner for two special at Chili's (and drink water- look how frugal I have become). He wouldn't care if we did dinner another night, but that is a long day with a lot of activity. On one hand, being busy will make it easier not to eat. But on the other, it would be nice to just enjoy. But I'm so close to VFT I don't want to miss it. But, but, but Yikes, I just remembered Saturday needs to be an UD because I'm running in a 6 mile race Sunday morning. Double OK, I'll leave Friday a DD and we'll do Chili's on Saturday. Whew, that's settled.

Have a great day everyone!

DUDE... VFT! I'm 1 LB above it and you're 1.5 LBS above it. Here's to both of us hitting new low low on the scale this week!

[Dovelette]

Dreamer girl - I have gone over by 100 or even 200 calories and I personally found for me the scale went down anyway. I still enjoyed my UD and didn't worry about cutting back. Someone said once that we're too hard on ourselves because really anything under I think 35% of our calories is considered a DD; that's what the JUDDD calculator says. Yes we want to stay at that 20%, but sometimes it doesn't happen, and it's still a DD.

Ilpirata - I agree about the PSMF, I couldn't/wouldn't do it for more than a few days straight, but it seems like a good match with JUDDD. It's 3:15 here and I'm just now starting on my second shake - chocolate banana, YUM! But of course I personally love protein shakes lol

[Leo41]

Wow! So many new posts everyone who is new to JUDDD!

I couldn't get on earlier this morning because my phone was out (no dial tone), and I'm probably the last person in the U.S. with dial up service:-), so I had a lot to read--some comments:

Spiralsky--thanks for that news about increasing exercise. It came at the perfect time for me. For years I've been swimming just 10 laps in our 25 meter pool because it takes me 30 min., and that's all the time I had when I was working. Lately, I've been trying to do the laps faster, and that doesn't seem to work. No matter how 'fast' I think I'm swimming, when I check the clock at the end, it's always 30 min--or close to. Then I realized that I'm retired and no longer constrained by time, so I added laps. Now I'm swimming 12 each time. My goal is to get up to 16. It's nice to know that the added laps will help burn fat.

Vesna--I want to second what you advised about not "borrowing" calories for other days. The plan works best when DDs are low and UD are satisfying. And it's supposed to be important to be 500 cal or less for the first two weeks to activate the SIRTI gene, so taking extra calories from UDs if you're over on DDs is really futile in terms of this plan.

But mostly I want to agree with you about fat on DDs. I've always emphasized protein, and I was avoiding fat because of the calories. But I recently realized that fat REALLY helps with appetite. Today I had a can of tuna with chopped celery (200 cal) and added a Tbs of my homemade mayo for another 100, and it was well worth it in terms of satiety (ate that for breakfast and lunch (on bran crackers - 24 cal) and will probably not eat again or have some broth tonight). Sometimes with my morning coffee, I'll have just a Tbs of all natural peanut butter (100 cal), and it will last me until mid-afternoon. Fat is where it's at.

Cagmom-I think you're discovering one of the benefits of JUDDD. In the past when just doing low carb, my vacation pounds would take forever to lose, but with JUDDD, it seems that I can get back to pre-vacation weight within a week.

Sherrie - You know you CAN do this! One of the nice things about JUDDD is regardless of what happens one day, the next day can be a DD--or the one after that. It's really easy to get back into rotation.

[dreamer girl]

Thanks everyone for all the advice,I really appreciate itYou are so right.I need to enjoy my UD and just get my mind right on the DD's That's the joy of this way of eating,you should feel like you can pretty much have whatever you like.I find that I really don't do that bad on UD's. What does VFT mean? I looks like your at goal or under