JUDDD/Alternate Day May 2009!

[Trishagrrl]

Good Morning....

Well, since my 9 day vacation hiatus I'm still not back down to my sigy weight this morning. I have 1.2 pounds to go. Hopefully, I can knock those out this next week and maybe a little more too! I'm going to try not to let today (an UD) and tomorrow (a MD) get too out of control. It could be a bit difficult with all of my social obligations today and tomorrow evening I'm having a birthday party for my son (he'll be 5 on Wednesday).

Leo: I wish I had the self control to give up dairy. I think it would probably help me with a lot of things. Keep us posted on your dairy elimination!

Redboots: Glad to hear you are finding success!

[LBishop]

Good morning all. I feel like I'm in maintenance mode for the time being and starting to think it's not entirely a bad thing. I have not managed to have a DD for several days. They've all been MD's, not by plan but it just happens. I'm maintaining though and I'm think that maybe slowing down a bit might help me maintain once I get the rest of the weight off, or so it seems "they" say. WE have a lot going on right now and maybe that's what's throwing me off. Ballet recital and all the rehearsals leading up to (that ends today!), trying to finish up school (we homeschool)...the girls are going to camp in a week so we have to get ready for that (times 3), so I just think my mind is not on my diet at this time. I think it's a learning process though since once I get to goal this is what I'll have to do also. I'm practicing, lol! I'm also still taking the new thyroid meds and haven't stabilized on it yet so I think it's having some affect on my appetite.

Well, I think this is starting to sound like "excuses, excuses" and I really don't feel that way, just thinking I guess. Hope you all have successful days today!

[GME]

Originally Posted by Leo41

Weekly Weigh Day
Down 2.5 lbs this morning! I think this is entirely due to taking back control of my UDs that I had allowed to creep higher in calories than I should.

Congratulations!

I'm having a diet-crisis over here. I had another failed DD yesterday.

I had great results with JUDDD but then the losses tapered off. I've had one day since 5/5 that I've shown a loss. That is completely normal for me on any WOE, but it's tough to go hungry without the positive reinforcement on the scale. On the other hand, I have seen surprising body changes with JUDDD that I wasn't seeing with straight LC. ????

I don't think my UDs or DDs are too low or too high (when I do them right, NOT like the last couple of days). I really think my slow losses are just the way I am. When I look back at old journals and notebooks, this is the way I have lost on low cal, low fat, ww and low carb. I was hoping JUDDD would be different. I don't want to give it up completely but I'm not sure where to go from here.

I've been thinking over a couple of options:

1. Just gut it out and get back to regular JUDDD with 500 cal DDs. I've had a ton of stuff going on this week that will pass soon. When summer comes it will be much easier.

2. Stay with JUDDD, but increase my DDs to 750-800 cals. That might be easier to manage.

3. Go back to reg LC and pull out JUDDD once a month or so. Hopefully it will be "new" again and I will see losses like I did at first.

Blah. I just want this to work and be easy.

[Leo41]

Gina-

When I look back at my calendar (where I post my weight), I see that even with JUDDD, my losses are "irregular." That is, one week, I'll post a loss of half a pound, and the next week, it's 2 pounds--although I'm eating exactly the same way both weeks. I think our bodies lose on their own terms!

Also, although I posted that I'd let my UDs get too high for a couple of weeks (and slowed loss thereby), the one constant for me has been strict control of DDs (400 cal)--even though I only do 3 a week--M, W, F. That seems to be the key to JUDDD.

I also agree with you that if I didn't see any loss on JUDDD, I'd give it up; it's just too hard to do without the reward of regular loss. But in my experience, if I do it right, it gives me that reward (however small) on a weekly basis. For someone (like me) who needs strict calorie restriction, this seems to be the ideal plan.

[snaggle]

Wow Leo- 2.5lbs is so great! Sounds like you have it figured out!!

I am doing a dd today. First time ever on a saturday. I am trying to stick
with a true alternation for a while and see if I can get to a new low. Stuck
at 163lbs.

[Andi-Pandi]

Although I'm not really doing JUDD at the moment.. I've still been lurking. I've actually done Fast5 this week and so far, so good. As opposed to saying "I can have it tomorrow".. it is even nicer to say "I can have it tonight". I am being very careful not to over indulge though. Luckily my body seems to crave real nourishing food when I finally do eat.
Gina- I've got a question for you? I see in your profile that you are doing The Big Sur Half Marathon on Nov. 15th? Are you sure that's the race you are doing? Only because I think Big Sur is usually in April and there is another race on Nov. 15th... the Malibu International Marathon and Half. I'm seriously thinking of doing the marathon.. so that's why the date in your post caught my eye. It would be cool if we were both at the same event.

[NoSugarShell]

Originally Posted by snaggle

Wow Leo- 2.5lbs is so great! Sounds like you have it figured out!!

I am doing a dd today. First time ever on a saturday. I am trying to stick
with a true alternation for a while and see if I can get to a new low. Stuck
at 163lbs.

Snaggle - I am doing a DD today also. My birthday is tommorrow and I definetly want that to be an UD, although it will be a controlled UD. Nothing crazy. I lost 4 lbs of Memorial Day water weight after 1 good DD, but still holding on to the other 2 lbs. I am ready to get back to siggy weight.

[GME]

Originally Posted by Andi-Pandi

Gina- I've got a question for you? I see in your profile that you are doing The Big Sur Half Marathon on Nov. 15th? Are you sure that's the race you are doing? Only because I think Big Sur is usually in April and there is another race on Nov. 15th... the Malibu International Marathon and Half. I'm seriously thinking of doing the marathon.. so that's why the date in your post caught my eye. It would be cool if we were both at the same event.

The Big Sur full marathon and a different half are in April. They have another half on a different course (which is in Monterey, 30 miles from Big Sur ) along with a 5K and kid's run in November. The course is around the penninsula, breezy, cool, beautiful and mostly flat. The "real" one in the spring is down Hwy 1 and is quite hilly. They even put a grand piano at the top of one hill to inspire you. I'm askeered of that one.

Last year I did C25K and ran the November 5K as my first race ever (they call it the Run Forrest Run because it starts and ends in front of a Bubba Gumps restaurant). I liked the idea of coming back a year later able to do 13.1 miles so when I went looking for a half I picked it. I'm hoping I can do 13.1 anyway, so far I'm up to 7.

I am also thinking about a full in the future. Maybe the 2010 Nike Women's Marathon in San Francisco. That was what originally drew me to JUDDD. I was losing painfully slowly and I just don't think I can haul close to 200 lbs 26.2 miles. That and I run vvveeerrryyy slowly. They would probably close the course on me at my speed even if I could go the distance. The goal in my profile is 175 just because that's the lowest I've ever been as an adult. In the back of my mind I've always thought if I could get to 145-150 I'd do a marathon. Some reward huh? That and I think I'll give up artificial sweeteners. Maybe I'll start poking myself in the eye with a stick too.

***

I think I'm going to keep trying JUDDD and up my DDs some for awhile. I'm doing another DD today. I had breakfast already (about 10:30) and planned a late lunch/early dinner fo about 550 cals for the day. If I need another snack tonight and go to 700, so be it. That will certainly be better than the blowouts I have had for the past couple of days.

Tomorrow I will do a controlled UD and try to get back on track for next week.

[SuzeZee]

Well since originally posting I have failed miserably. Due to ongoing stress I have fallen into the "eating to feel good" pit and although I understand it I just don't climb out. During the week I lose a couple of pounds O.K. and eat a fairly small amount of food. On the weekends my DH is home and I cook for him. Those are my UD's. Weekdays I keep it at DD/MD. Sooooo, on the weekends my UD's are too up and I gain back what I have lost during the week. I really don't know what to do, but I know there is a solution out there. I will keep at it next week and hope for help.

[aim in Fla*working]

i would like to try again guys if you will have me.
I am on new meds..I am doing yoga pretty intensly and i am ready mentally to try again. Do you guys do low carb and JUDDD?

[snaggle]

welcome back aim. We are a pretty tough bunch as far as re-admittance requirements, but I am sure that somewhere in the by-laws we can find a loophole and let you back in to the fold!

As far as your question about low-carbing and JUDDD. I have found that even tho I really was jazzed about adding in carbs, they really affected my losses. Now, I will admit to some pretty bad stuff, like sugar, french bread, etc.
I am back to trying to really limit them and will track results closely. We shall see......

LOTs of the juddders do fine with them.

[Leo41]

Suze-

If you're careful, I think you can do JUDDD in your situation. I only do DDs on M,W,F, and Tues. and Thurs. are UDs. Ideally, either Sat. or Sun. will be a MD, depending on my schedule, but I lost with JUDDD even when I could not manage a medium day on Saturday or Sunday and both became UDs. I've managed that a little better lately. The key (for me at least) is not to go too high on UDs.

I do JUDDD because at my age (67) and hypothyroid, I have to seriously restrict calories, to I don't eat anywhere close to my calculator number. I keep UDs to between 1200 and 1400 calories, but after a 400 cal. DD, that seems like a feast. If you calculate the average you want daily and divide that between DD and UD, I think you can manage with your weekends both UDs.

Another thing that might help you is that I found when I went way over on an UD (twice) on the weekend to 2500 cal for a day, I actually lost even better! So if you can keep your schedule during the weekdays, I think you can eat more on the weekends with your DH and still lose--if you don't overdo it.

[Glamour P!]

Hi all -

Am down 3lbs this week. I know my WL has slowed due to stress too, but I'm happy to have lost TOM gains.

Hey Aims! I'm incorporating LC with LGL and JUDDD. I think that LC is the only way to go for me, but I needed a little more variation. And seeing the success of everyone here just helped me along.

Leo - just wanted to say your posts are fabulous. I learn so much.

Hope you all have a wonderful weekend.

G x

[Andi-Pandi]

Originally Posted by GME

The Big Sur full marathon and a different half are in April. They have another half on a different course (which is in Monterey, 30 miles from Big Sur ) along with a 5K and kid's run in November. The course is around the penninsula, breezy, cool, beautiful and mostly flat. The "real" one in the spring is down Hwy 1 and is quite hilly. They even put a grand piano at the top of one hill to inspire you. I'm askeered of that one.

Last year I did C25K and ran the November 5K as my first race ever (they call it the Run Forrest Run because it starts and ends in front of a Bubba Gumps restaurant). I liked the idea of coming back a year later able to do 13.1 miles so when I went looking for a half I picked it. I'm hoping I can do 13.1 anyway, so far I'm up to 7.

I am also thinking about a full in the future. Maybe the 2010 Nike Women's Marathon in San Francisco. That was what originally drew me to JUDDD. I was losing painfully slowly and I just don't think I can haul close to 200 lbs 26.2 miles. That and I run vvveeerrryyy slowly. They would probably close the course on me at my speed even if I could go the distance. The goal in my profile is 175 just because that's the lowest I've ever been as an adult. In the back of my mind I've always thought if I could get to 145-150 I'd do a marathon. Some reward huh? That and I think I'll give up artificial sweeteners. Maybe I'll start poking myself in the eye with a stick too.

***

I think I'm going to keep trying JUDDD and up my DDs some for awhile. I'm doing another DD today. I had breakfast already (about 10:30) and planned a late lunch/early dinner fo about 550 cals for the day. If I need another snack tonight and go to 700, so be it. That will certainly be better than the blowouts I have had for the past couple of days.

Tomorrow I will do a controlled UD and try to get back on track for next week.

Gina- I'm a scant 5'3 and managed to walk (with some jogging thrown in) the Portland Marathon in 2006 weighing about 175. It was the greatest accomplishment for me!!! (my time was just over 6 hours) Portland is an AWESOME marathon because it has the largest number of walkers and they keep the course open extra long. Also it appeals to a higher percentage of woman than usual.
Now that I've lost weight (am hovering in the mid 150's although I had made it down to 140 2 years ago and have let it inch up) I'm hoping I can get my weight down again with the training and getting my eating under control.

[aim in Fla*working]

thanks guys
HI GLAMOUR!
Tomorrow I will have a DD and I will eat 500 cals or less and low carb. I am going to try to drink Jay Rob shakes on these days. I am also going to try to take LGlutimine for cravings. The new thyroid meds (additional T3) I am on really help with energy so that is good.
I noticed Michelle has seriously kicked some ass as far as her losses go! AWESOME...truth be told, she is why I am back...i have been watching you guys for some time....Michelle...we have similair stats with very different levels of fortitude..mine was nonexistent and yours plentiful. Also, I just treated some other health issues that were making my cravings unbearable....
Thanks for the welcome back Snaggle....and I am looking forward to this.

[LBishop]

Originally Posted by aim in Fla*working

thanks guys
HI GLAMOUR!
Tomorrow I will have a DD and I will eat 500 cals or less and low carb. I am going to try to drink Jay Rob shakes on these days. I am also going to try to take LGlutimine for cravings. The new thyroid meds (additional T3) I am on really help with energy so that is good.
I noticed Michelle has seriously kicked some ass as far as her losses go! AWESOME...truth be told, she is why I am back...i have been watching you guys for some time....Michelle...we have similair stats with very different levels of fortitude..mine was nonexistent and yours plentiful. Also, I just treated some other health issues that were making my cravings unbearable....
Thanks for the welcome back Snaggle....and I am looking forward to this.

Aim! hi! I just started the T3 for Wilsons Temperature Syndrome protocol and I am feeling SO much better. I don't have my temp regulated yet so I have a bit to go, but already can tell so much difference! Right now I'm doing only Fast 5 because things have been hectic and it's working better for me but I am hanging around the JUDDD thread because I am not abandoning it. Just waiting for it to be a little more do-able for me. Glad to see you back!

[aim in Fla*working]

thanks Leisa....
so you are having your t3 compunded eh? I unfortunatley am on cytomel (synthetic) with armour (natural)...however, I know that I am better and my hands are warm for the first time in YEARS...hotflashes are rough though...I have bad night sweats. However, the added t3 helps with my energy and if I can DO then I will not EAT glad it is working for you too

[aim in Fla*working]

is fst 5 only eating in the same 5 hours?

[LBishop]

Originally Posted by aim in Fla*working

is fst 5 only eating in the same 5 hours?

Aim, yes my t3 is compounded and I agree, warm hands and feet are AMAZING! Fast 5 is eating in a 5 hour period. I love eating that way. It really controls the amount of food I eat and I have more energy eating this way. I also prefer my workouts before eating. I can workout much harder, run farther, etc before I eat.

[aim in Fla*working]

does your body get used to the times you eat and you are hungrier less later in the day. I know i would do so much better NEVER eating past 3

[Redeemed]

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Quiet up day here at our house this Father's Day. Our son is on a short-term mission's trip in Guatamala doing construction work on an orphanage. He's down there with a group of college students from the Bible College he graduated from. I worked last night and will work tonight. So my husband and I will go out to dinner Tuesday night when I'm off work and will have an up day. We have a new cat named Chester. Our dog, Molly, thinks Chester's her baby. Otherwise, still hanging in there with JUDDD. Have a great Sunday everyone!

[LBishop]

Originally Posted by Redeemed

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Quiet up day here at our house this Father's Day. Our son is on a short-term mission's trip in Guatamala doing construction work on an orphanage. He's down there with a group of college students from the Bible College he graduated from. I worked last night and will work tonight. So my husband and I will go out to dinner Tuesday night when I'm off work and will have an up day. We have a new cat named Chester. Our dog, Molly, thinks Chester's her baby. Otherwise, still hanging in there with JUDDD. Have a great Sunday everyone!

My calendar says Fathers Day is June 21. ??

[LBishop]

Originally Posted by aim in Fla*working

does your body get used to the times you eat and you are hungrier less later in the day. I know i would do so much better NEVER eating past 3

Aim, I eat between 5 and 10 pm. I don't get as hungry during the day anymore since starting this. I would rather eat in the evening because I can eat with my family and then it's bedtime so it doesn't feel like so long in between eating windows. Also, thats the time frame that the ebook for Fast 5 recommended. I've heard of others who have their windows at other times though.

[Redeemed]

Originally Posted by LBishop

My calendar says Fathers Day is June 21. ??

Oh!!! No wonder we havn't heard from our son this morning!!!!!!! Well, that's what happens when you work nights! Thanks, Leisa - glad I'm among friends. :blush:

[GME]

I finally had a successful DD yesterday. I came in at 590 cals and didn't feel like gnawing my arm off. I didn't eat what I had planned, since we were out I packed a lunch for everyone and my son ate mine (accident). I had an apple and waited til we got home.


I made a pretty good DD meal:

I sliced some cabbage in long shreds, sprayed non-stick spray on a teflon pan (I don't think this was really necessary), put the cabbage in and poured about a half cup of beef broth in and put the lid on. I use the TJ lower sodium, concentrated packets and mixed it kind of strong. Let the cabbage steam until soft.

Then I took the lid off and put in a couple of 97% ff hot dogs (45 cals each) and fried those with the lid off. I sliced them longways, but I think bites would have been better. The water cooks off the cabbage and they both kind of carmelize.

I ate the whole thing with the little wedges of Laughing Cow cheese (35 cals each) and some mustard.

It was really pretty good.

[snaggle]

Originally Posted by Redeemed

Oh!!! No wonder we havn't heard from our son this morning!!!!!!! Well, that's what happens when you work nights! Thanks, Leisa - glad I'm among friends. :blush:

okay, that is so funny. Oh well,celebrate anyway, I say.
Last monday we were driving home late afternoon after spending memorial day with friends at their vacation home. We had golfed, goofed off etc. for most of the day and my husband, all of a sudden said, "wait a minute, isn't today our anniversary?" We had both totally forgotten. oops. When we got home he ran out and got a card and THE most thoughtful (?) gift.............
.........an avocado keeper! Yes folks, Mr. romance really went all out.
Who needs jewels, when you can get an avocado keeper?
We have been married 19 years. Oh the passion!!!

[snaggle]

Aim--- the way I feel is that it isn't so much your body adjusting as it is your mind. The first couple of times I did fast five, I really felt odd not having any brekky. I have been so ingrained to have it every day that I felt like I was doing something really reckless by not having it. Skipping lunch was easy because I usually have to make time to squeeze it in anyway, plus by 1 or 2, I would just tell myself I only had to wait a couple of hours.
I also find that on those days (I do my down days fast five style), I have great energy for my after work workouts. I only do fast five on my down days now, or if I want a medium day on a weekend and we are going out for a nice dinner or to a party.
So, my point is that it really is just getting your head wrapped around it more than the body making some adjustment. At least for me, that is.

[LBishop]

Originally Posted by Redeemed

Oh!!! No wonder we havn't heard from our son this morning!!!!!!! Well, that's what happens when you work nights! Thanks, Leisa - glad I'm among friends. :blush:

LOL! glad you realized it before you got mad at your son, hehe!

[mammapo]

Originally Posted by Leo41

Redeemed-

Yes, I still can't get over how easy it is to go on vacation and not gain a ton AND be able to lose quickly when I return. On regular low carb, I would go on vacation and eat carefully--no desserts or bread or anything, but restaurant food which is usually higher in calories and carbs than can be easily estimated. I would typically gain 5-7 pounds in 5-7 days, and it would take me a MONTH or more to lose it. It was so depressing.

With JUDDD, I gained 2.5 pounds when I was away for four days recently, and lost 3.5 pounds the week I returned--i.e., the vacation weight + an additional pound! That phenomenon alone will keep me on JUDDD forever!

Hear. Hear! This has been why I've been able to stay on this WOE longer than any other... it's soooo forgiving and flexible.

Originally Posted by GME

Congratulations!

I'm having a diet-crisis over here. I had another failed DD yesterday.

I had great results with JUDDD but then the losses tapered off. I've had one day since 5/5 that I've shown a loss. That is completely normal for me on any WOE, but it's tough to go hungry without the positive reinforcement on the scale. On the other hand, I have seen surprising body changes with JUDDD that I wasn't seeing with straight LC. ????...

I'll apologize in advance if I step beyond propiety here, but may I observe a few things??

a) You're incredibly close to goal - look how far you have come!!! I wouldn't worry about losing 'fast' at this point - you want to begin to slow down the weight loss (you should expect it to slow this close to goal, anyway), so that you can begin the process of maintenance eating patterning.

It's been my observation in my own walk and watching others that when we concentrate on losing fast and getting to goal... and once we actually get there - we can tend to 'relax' and think "phew, the journey's done!" when actually the journey is just beginning.

I'm learning not to rush the process. A downward trend is a downward trend, and if it's true that you have lost slow on low cal, low fat, low carb.... then you'll probably lose slow on EVERYTHING. Make peace with that. I'm much happier now that I've realized that a pound a week is as fast as I'll ever hope to lose.

b) You only have about 13 pounds to go. If you truly lose slowly, even at a pound a week average loss - which is what many of us hypothyroid types average over time - you will be at goal by mid june! Think about that - being able to relax and 'not diet' every other day will still get you to goal by mid-june!?!?!? I personally can't ever see going back to 24/7 restriction of anything (carbs, calories, fat) EVER again. Even if it means taking a little more time

c) You notice body changes. This is why I HATE weight as a goal. You could be putting on muscle, which will show as a GAIN, even while taking off fat. You could be storing water for that last 'whoosh'. There are literally eight or ten solid reasons why weight shouldn't be the determining factor for you. I say, if you are seeing positive body changes - things you didn't see on atkins, you should leave well enough alone. The program's working for you, just not by the standards you're using. I now use SIZE (inches, sizes) as my major determinant of success, and weight as a secondary concern.

d) I wouldn't concentrate on a goal weight. You can read my old post a few pages back about this - as a woman especially, you need to set a goal range. At 5'7" the goal for grown women should be a body fat percentage of 22% - this is where we age slowest, heal fastest, and experience the most flexibility and energy.


Now, if you really want to lose faster, instead of switching diets - since we know all diets basically do the same thing for you, I'd concentrate on a few other lifestyle changes

1) I'd aim for this by exercising just a little more each week. If you already excercise like a dog, here's my thoughts:

• Perhaps you're not eating enough calories. This would slow WL
• Perhaps you're not building muscle. We begin to lose it after 30... adding weight training will boost metabolism

2) Look at supplementation - many people are iodine deficient in the US. this may be a factor. Deficiency of many vitamins slow metabolism.

3) Do you get a full eight hours of sleep a night? Studies have shown that less than eight hours creates insulin issues and slows metabolism. They've also shown that more than eight hours stresses the heart and slows metabolism. Also: did you know that every hour before midnight is the rest-equivalent of 2 after midnight?? The older we get, the earlier we need to go to bed in order to get deep sleep. Without deep sleep we age faster and (you guessed it!) our metabolism slows....

4) Do you drink enough water? Slow weight loss for me is always, always, always speeded up a bit by proper hydration. I needed about a gallon a day at 185 pounds to get the weight loss moving.



Okay, I'm jumping off the 'hobby-horse' for now.
Once again, no intention to offend.

Naomi

[GME]

Originally Posted by mammapo

a) You're incredibly close to goal - look how far you have come!!! I wouldn't worry about losing 'fast' at this point - you want to begin to slow down the weight loss (you should expect it to slow this close to goal, anyway), so that you can begin the process of maintenance eating patterning.

[COLOR="Navy"]Well, I'm not really that close to goal. I picked 175 because that is as low as I have been in my adult life and at 250, it sounded pretty darn good. To be "normal" I should really be 145-150. My mom and aunts are about my height and build and that's a good weight on them.[/COLOR]

c) You notice body changes. This is why I HATE weight as a goal. You could be putting on muscle, which will show as a GAIN, even while taking off fat. You could be storing water for that last 'whoosh'. There are literally eight or ten solid reasons why weight shouldn't be the determining factor for you. I say, if you are seeing positive body changes - things you didn't see on atkins, you should leave well enough alone. The program's working for you, just not by the standards you're using. I now use SIZE (inches, sizes) as my major determinant of success, and weight as a secondary concern.

[COLOR="navy"]Very true. I say it to other posters all the time. No one knows what you weigh but you. Everyone can see your butt. The scale just gives that small, incremental reinforcement that things are headed in the right direction.[/COLOR]

1) I'd aim for this by exercising just a little more each week. If you already excercise like a dog, here's my thoughts:

• Perhaps you're not eating enough calories. This would slow WL
• Perhaps you're not building muscle. We begin to lose it after 30... adding weight training will boost metabolism

[COLOR="navy"]I run pretty regularly and I have recently started weight training. I do think that will help.[/COLOR]

2) Look at supplementation - many people are iodine deficient in the US. this may be a factor. Deficiency of many vitamins slow metabolism.

[COLOR="navy"]Never thought of this at all.[/COLOR]

3) Do you get a full eight hours of sleep a night? Studies have shown that less than eight hours creates insulin issues and slows metabolism. They've also shown that more than eight hours stresses the heart and slows metabolism. Also: did you know that every hour before midnight is the rest-equivalent of 2 after midnight?? The older we get, the earlier we need to go to bed in order to get deep sleep. Without deep sleep we age faster and (you guessed it!) our metabolism slows....

[COLOR="navy"]Sleep definately affects my loss. I didn't know about the before midnight thing. Very interesting.[/COLOR]

4) Do you drink enough water? Slow weight loss for me is always, always, always speeded up a bit by proper hydration. I needed about a gallon a day at 185 pounds to get the weight loss moving.

[COLOR="navy"]I think I'm good here.[/COLOR]

Okay, I'm jumping off the 'hobby-horse' for now.
Once again, no intention to offend.

Naomi

Thanks for the input. I do have a history of impatience. When I do just straight LC it truly feels like this is just the way I eat and will eat for the rest of my life so the slow loss isn't such a big deal. JUDDD takes more effort and it seems like there should be more to show for it.

I'm just going to stick it out, because I am seeing the body changes and that alone is worth it. I upped my calories by just 100 yesterday and it was so much more manageable.