JUDDDD / Alternate Day Diet April 2009

[Redeemed]

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Hope everyone has a great day. It appears I cannot give myself two UD's in a row during the week - up two pounds. My DD's have been going well. So.....back to the boardroom to do some serious planning.

[Leo41]

Did you weigh after the UDs? Dr. J warns to weigh only after a DD, and from experience I've seen that otherwise you see what I call "phantom pounds" on the scale. That is, a couple of times I've weighed after an UD (when I was rather controlled in terms of calories, too), and would see a jump of 2 pounds or so. Then after a single DD, I'd weigh again (on my regular weekly weigh day) and find that I was DOWN a pound for the week--i.e., 3 lbs lighter in one day. That's physically impossible, so those 2 pounds must have been "phantom pounds."

I suspect that this system stimulates your body to retain water on those UDs, so that you will seem heavier than you are if you weigh after one or two UDs.

That's why I try to keep to weighing only once a week following a DD. I've seen a very gradual but steady loss that I know is "for real."

[msgirl]

Morning all!!!

Well today makes two weeks JUDDING and I am down another 2.4 lbs from last week. That makes 11 lbs. total!!! I realize a lot of that may be water....but I am claiming it either way.

I have really watched my calories on DD and UD and I think this may be the key to all of it!

UD for me today. Got some good healthy lower calorie foods at the store last night. I was hungry yesterday afternoon and it was my hardest DD yet but, I kept telling myself I feel thinner so I am gonna just push through this and I made it!

I am only weighing on Thursdays so I was so excited to see the scale go down today! This is the first time in MONTHS AND MONTHS that I have been able to lose consistently.

To all of you who are just starting......keep plugging along - it will pay off!

[Redeemed]

Originally Posted by Leo41

Did you weigh after the UDs? Dr. J warns to weigh only after a DD, and from experience I've seen that otherwise you see what I call "phantom pounds" on the scale. That is, a couple of times I've weighed after an UD (when I was rather controlled in terms of calories, too), and would see a jump of 2 pounds or so. Then after a single DD, I'd weigh again (on my regular weekly weigh day) and find that I was DOWN a pound for the week--i.e., 3 lbs lighter in one day. That's physically impossible, so those 2 pounds must have been "phantom pounds."

I suspect that this system stimulates your body to retain water on those UDs, so that you will seem heavier than you are if you weigh after one or two UDs.

That's why I try to keep to weighing only once a week following a DD. I've seen a very gradual but steady loss that I know is "for real."

I weighed after a 330 calorie Down Day. I can tell I'm retaining water for some reason. Yesterday I only used salt substitute in my spinach omlette. This was the week when I had the lowest number of calories on DD's so far. What we discussed yesterday on the thread about planning on Up Days is what I need to work on. I know I need to cut back a little on UD's and no two UD's in a row unless for a special occasion. This does feel like "phantom" weight because I am losing inches. I'm sure yesterday's discussion on planning is going to be revisited many times on these threads. My mantra is going to have to go beyond: "I can eat it tomorrow." On DD's I am going to start telling myself: "I can fit that into my plan for tomorrow."

[Trishagrrl]

Happy Happy Thursday Everyone!

I made it through DD#2 at 425 calories and for some reason it was much harder than the first one. I laid in bed last night and couldn't get to sleep for quite a while because my stomach was literally growling! Glad I can eat today :-)

Speaking of weighing yourself... what is the best day to weigh if I'm doing DD's on MWF? Monday has always been my "official" weigh in day. I weigh every day but I look at my weekly trends by my Monday weigh in. But, if I have an UD Saturday and Sunday I'd guess I'll be a couple pounds heavier on Monday. Maybe it would be good to make Saturday my official weigh in day.

Those of you who have been doing this a while... do the DD truly get easier? I found myself so preoccupied with thinking about food yesterday. It probably didn't help that I was sitting and flipping through the taste of home magazine at one point yesterday.

MsGirl- Thats awesome you lost 2.4 pounds this week. You said 11 total, how long have you been doing JUDDD?

[jgw]

Originally Posted by Trishagrrl

Happy Happy Thursday Everyone!


Speaking of weighing yourself... what is the best day to weigh if I'm doing DD's on MWF? Monday has always been my "official" weigh in day. I weigh every day but I look at my weekly trends by my Monday weigh in. But, if I have an UD Saturday and Sunday I'd guess I'll be a couple pounds heavier on Monday. Maybe it would be good to make Saturday my official weigh in day.

MsGirl- Thats awesome you lost 2.4 pounds this week. You said 11 total, how long have you been doing JUDDD?

I weigh in on Saturday mornings!

[batlou]

OK, so my headache went away after I had my dinner. I do a crazy workout on Weds nights at the gym that includes Cardio and Strength training. This did not go so well. I was able to do the Cardio parts but had zero energy for the strength parts. I may have to rethink how I handle Weds in the future. I am thinking that I may get a 300 cal meal in around 3 pm that day to give me the energy to get through it.

I am at 202 this morning!!! Only 2 lbs to "One-derland"!!!

[NoSugarShell]

Good Morning Juddders! - Well, yesterday was a DD and it was easy. They DO get so much easier.

I did have a rough day yesterday. I have had a pain in my jaw that I have been ignoring and finally couldn't take it anymore. I went to the dentist and I have an abcsess tooth. Yuck!! So, I am taking antibiotics and then they are going to pull it. I HATE taking antibiotics and even considered not taking them. That really upset my husband who thinks I NEED to take them. I started them this morning. Sooo, I am sure that is going to interfere with the weight loss, but I am going to continue JUDDD.

I am an everyday weigher and it goes up and down pretty drastically, but I know the overall trend is down, so I don't let it get to me.

Michelle

[jgw]

Good morning Judders, Up day for me today. Like Nosugarshell said the DD do get easier. I'm sorry about your tooth and I hope you feel better. I am a nurse and hate taking antibiotics too.
I use to work in a clinic and I've seen too many antibiotics prescribed to infants, children and adults for something so simple as a sniffle.
Some of these folks will bring their kids in on a monthly basis and the doc will give them a Rx for some type of antibiotics.

Back to you! Since you have an abscess tooth it might be wise to take them. I hope your weight loss is not hindered.

[msgirl]

Trishagrrl - I weigh on Thursdays and my DDs are MWF. That way it is right after a down day.

I started April 15th. But, I retain water like crazy....I am sure that is what at least five pounds is....water. If you look back at last week's posts, I was right before TOM and I had gained .4 but I lost it cuz I stuck with it.

Good luck to you!!!

[batlou]

Originally Posted by NoSugarShell

Good Morning Juddders! - Well, yesterday was a DD and it was easy. They DO get so much easier.

I did have a rough day yesterday. I have had a pain in my jaw that I have been ignoring and finally couldn't take it anymore. I went to the dentist and I have an abcsess tooth. Yuck!! So, I am taking antibiotics and then they are going to pull it. I HATE taking antibiotics and even considered not taking them. That really upset my husband who thinks I NEED to take them. I started them this morning. Sooo, I am sure that is going to interfere with the weight loss, but I am going to continue JUDDD.

I am an everyday weigher and it goes up and down pretty drastically, but I know the overall trend is down, so I don't let it get to me.

Michelle

Your husband is correct! You better take your antibiotics, bacterial infections in the teeth and gums can rapidly spread to your heart and cause major damage to your coronary system or even death. Taking antibiotics in this case is not the same as taking them for a stomach bug or sinus infection.

[Redeemed]

NoSugarShell: I, like Janice, have seen antibiotics passed out willy nilly - just like candy! Now, I'm seeing a dramatic increase in MRSA! But Batlou is giving you good advice. An abcess tooth can poison your system and has the potential to cause heart damage. I value every tooth I have. I would not have a tooth pulled unless there was absolutely no other way to treat it. If my dentist recommended extracting a tooth, I would get another opinion, maybe two.

[Leo41]

I KNOW that the conventional wisdom is that DDs get easier, but I've been on JUDDD for about 18 weeks now, and I have mixed experiences with my DDs. First, let me say that I have kept every one of them at no more than 400 cal. However, they immediately got easier after the first week, but recently, they've become more difficult. I think that as I switched from shakes to real food, and then more variety with my food, I invited more hunger. That is, when I had a 'standard' menu and didn't deviate from it, I had no problems with DDs. But when I changed things up (even though I planned in advance), I found myself getting hungrier during the day. And this wasn't because I introduced carbs or anything--I keep low carb, concentrating on protein. I think the variety of food got me thinking about food and thus incited hunger.

I mention this as a possibility if anyone else struggles with DDs. Perhaps staying with a standard menu for a while will help. But if you find yourself more hungry than usual, you might try my method--I remind myself that I've done just fine in the past on 400 cals, so there is NO NEED for any more. That usually helps me stay with my limit.

[Trishagrrl]

Originally Posted by NoSugarShell

I did have a rough day yesterday. I have had a pain in my jaw that I have been ignoring and finally couldn't take it anymore. I went to the dentist and I have an abcsess tooth. Yuck!! So, I am taking antibiotics and then they are going to pull it. I HATE taking antibiotics and even considered not taking them. That really upset my husband who thinks I NEED to take them. I started them this morning. Sooo, I am sure that is going to interfere with the weight loss, but I am going to continue JUDDD.
Michelle

Yuck! I ditto what everyone said... take those antibiotics, they are so important in a situation like this.

I just ended up having a tooth removed a week ago. It was a total bummer because of all that has happened to that tooth (filled twice, a root canal and crown... then about 6 months ago pain and found out the guy who did the first root canal missed a canal and it was infected. I had a second root canal of the tooth and put antibiotic straight up into the canal of the tooth twice! It still wouldn't heal so we finally had to pull it). Anyhow, though that has been a lot of money into one tooth, a good endontist should be able to tell you if there is any possibility of a root canal to save the tooth!

[Trishagrrl]

Originally Posted by msgirl

Trishagrrl - I weigh on Thursdays and my DDs are MWF. That way it is right after a down day.

I started April 15th. But, I retain water like crazy....I am sure that is what at least five pounds is....water. If you look back at last week's posts, I was right before TOM and I had gained .4 but I lost it cuz I stuck with it.

Good luck to you!!!

11 pounds in 2 weeks! That is amazing!

[GME]

Morning Everyone,

I weighed this morning after yesterday's DD and I held steady. I would have liked to see a loss, but I can't get greedy since I'm already down 3.5 this week.

For me, the DDs have gotten easier as I've gone along. I quit trying to figure out recipes and low cal things and that has taken the focus off food on the DDs. I was thinking about it too much. Having said that, I had a couple of those 97% hot dogs Kisha buys (BBQ'd), with a wedge of Laughing Cow cheese and a little mustard for dinner and it was good. I had that and some plain chicken for lunch.

Tomorrow's DD may be more of a challenge. I took the day off work and DH & I are going on a little road trip. I'll probably eat a little lunch at home and then pack some stuff for the drive. It will be nice to have the UD Saturday on vacation (I'm thinkin' steakhouse) and probably a med day on Sunday and a DD on Monday when I'm back home.

Michelle, take your antibiotics. An abcess tooth is nothing to mess with.

Trish, step away from the Taste of Home mag. I love that magazine and I have some of their cookbooks, but for now they are out of sight.

Have great JUDDD day everyone!

[hummingbird11]

I agree; you MUST take your antibiotics in this case; not negotiable. A tooth infection can lead to much more serious issues as outlined above.

Antibiotics will not interfere with your weight loss BUT they will interfere with your good gut flora, which can interfere with weightloss.

Please consider taking Probiotics along with your Antibiotics to mitigate the damage.

per Fawn (and I agree) Probiotic re-inoculation should be practiced during times of stress, illness and medication use. Me/Hubby take them every day. Me, due to chemotherapy 4 years ago; and Hubby, due to multiple GI issues. Probiotics are a part of our lifetime supplement regimen.

This thread will help fill in the blanks:
http://www.lowcarbfriends.com/bbs/ma...m-skeptic.html

Originally Posted by NoSugarShell

Good Morning Juddders! - Well, yesterday was a DD and it was easy. They DO get so much easier.

I did have a rough day yesterday. I have had a pain in my jaw that I have been ignoring and finally couldn't take it anymore. I went to the dentist and I have an abcsess tooth. Yuck!! So, I am taking antibiotics and then they are going to pull it. I HATE taking antibiotics and even considered not taking them. That really upset my husband who thinks I NEED to take them. I started them this morning. Sooo, I am sure that is going to interfere with the weight loss, but I am going to continue JUDDD.

I am an everyday weigher and it goes up and down pretty drastically, but I know the overall trend is down, so I don't let it get to me.

Michelle

[NoSugarShell]

Originally Posted by Redeemed

NoSugarShell: I, like Janice, have seen antibiotics passed out willy nilly - just like candy! Now, I'm seeing a dramatic increase in MRSA! But Batlou is giving you good advice. An abcess tooth can poison your system and has the potential to cause heart damage. I value every tooth I have. I would not have a tooth pulled unless there was absolutely no other way to treat it. If my dentist recommended extracting a tooth, I would get another opinion, maybe two.

Redeemed - Thanks for the info. The only reason I don't care if they pull the tooth is because it's a wisdom tooth. I still have all my teeth. I have NEVER had ANY problems with my teeth till now. sigh.....

[NoSugarShell]

Originally Posted by Trishagrrl

Yuck! I ditto what everyone said... take those antibiotics, they are so important in a situation like this.

I just ended up having a tooth removed a week ago. It was a total bummer because of all that has happened to that tooth (filled twice, a root canal and crown... then about 6 months ago pain and found out the guy who did the first root canal missed a canal and it was infected. I had a second root canal of the tooth and put antibiotic straight up into the canal of the tooth twice! It still wouldn't heal so we finally had to pull it). Anyhow, though that has been a lot of money into one tooth, a good endontist should be able to tell you if there is any possibility of a root canal to save the tooth!

Wow!! that sounds like quite an ordeal and that would scare me to death. I HATE the dentist and have had this pain for awhile. BUT, I am going to take the antibiotics just to be safe (and to make hubby happy).

[NoSugarShell]

Originally Posted by hummingbird11

I agree; you MUST take your antibiotics in this case; not negotiable. A tooth infection can lead to much more serious issues as outlined above.

Antibiotics will not interfere with your weight loss BUT they will interfere with your good gut flora, which can interfere with weightloss.

Please consider taking Probiotics along with your Antibiotics to mitigate the damage.

per Fawn (and I agree) Probiotic re-inoculation should be practiced during times of stress, illness and medication use. Me/Hubby take them every day. Me, due to chemotherapy 4 years ago; and Hubby, due to multiple GI issues. Probiotics are a part of our lifetime supplement regimen.

This thread will help fill in the blanks:
http://www.lowcarbfriends.com/bbs/ma...m-skeptic.html

Thanks for the link - It was very interesting. I will take the antibiotics and probiotics.

[Redeemed]

Michelle:I know you'll make the right decision. This is just my personal feeling about teeth. If I had a wisdom tooth that was not causing any real problems in my mouth, I would keep it. Dentists will pull teeth to get a more "cosmetic" smile, saying you don't need the extra teeth. I've spoon-fed too many elderly residents in retirement centers pureed food, to let any dentist talk me out of my teeth. I have only lost one tooth - that was when I was 14 years old, because of an abcess. I'm 56 now. Looking back, I know that dentist could have saved my tooth. He and my parents left the decision up to me if I wanted a root canal or have the tooth pulled; and I wanted the easy way out. Anyway, you must feel miserable. I hope this ordeal will resolve quickly. You know what you need - just stay two steps ahead of the dentists.

[Cherry Blossom]

Lots happening on here...Today is a DD. I'm reading the JUDDD book today (as it came in the mail yesterday). I'm trying to keep busy and I'm sure I'll go to bed early. I have been quite tired by evening on DDs.

So far, I haven't really looked forward to DDs...they aren't particularly hard, but I'd rather eat meals throughout the day and so I miss the comfort that my regular meals bring. On DDs, I don't eat until noon and then again at 5p.m.

But...I am losing weight. I bought a size smaller pair of jeans yesterday and they fit perfectly! That makes me extremely happy and motivates me to continue this WOE. My 13yr old daughter said, "Mom, that's scary! You might get as small as me!!!" That made me laugh..."I might" I said back.

[Maryposa]

Originally Posted by batlou

OK, so my headache went away after I had my dinner. I do a crazy workout on Weds nights at the gym that includes Cardio and Strength training. This did not go so well. I was able to do the Cardio parts but had zero energy for the strength parts. I may have to rethink how I handle Weds in the future. I am thinking that I may get a 300 cal meal in around 3 pm that day to give me the energy to get through it.

I am at 202 this morning!!! Only 2 lbs to "One-derland"!!!

I do a strength training class on weds night too, and also an aqua weds at lunch. Which gym do you go to? I got to 24hr fitness and the class is just called "Strength Training" but it def is cardio too. Anyway, I have yet to attempt a DD on weds. I did UD yesterday and today a DD.

Congrats on the weight loss.

ETA that smoothie sounds good!

[batlou]

Originally Posted by Maryposa

I do a strength training class on weds night too, and also an aqua weds at lunch. Which gym do you go to? I got to 24hr fitness and the class is just called "Strength Training" but it def is cardio too. Anyway, I have yet to attempt a DD on weds. I did UD yesterday and today a DD.

Congrats on the weight loss.

ETA that smoothie sounds good!

I take a class at the Y called C.R.I.T. (Cardio Rope Interval Training). We do this outside and it is brutal. I think she makes it up as she goes but here is an example of the first few minutes from last night.

Run 2 laps warmup around field (Field Hockey)
On the end line do 20 pushups
Run Suicides using field markers
Run Lap
Run to nearby hill
Crab Walk Up
Bearcrawl Down
Repeat
Run Lap
Grab Weights
Do Step Ups on Picnic Tables
Run Lap
Get Partner and Wheel Barrell each other Up and Back
Run Lap
etc...

This class will kick even the most in-shape peoples butt. There are about a dozen that attend regularly and each week we get newbies that have no idea what they are getting into. Most don't stay of they ones that do they rarely return. It's not for everyone but I like it because I can gauge my progress on how I do in this class.

[onexone]

Originally Posted by Leo41

I KNOW that the conventional wisdom is that DDs get easier, but I've been on JUDDD for about 18 weeks now, and I have mixed experiences with my DDs. First, let me say that I have kept every one of them at no more than 400 cal. However, they immediately got easier after the first week, but recently, they've become more difficult. I think that as I switched from shakes to real food, and then more variety with my food, I invited more hunger. That is, when I had a 'standard' menu and didn't deviate from it, I had no problems with DDs. But when I changed things up (even though I planned in advance), I found myself getting hungrier during the day. And this wasn't because I introduced carbs or anything--I keep low carb, concentrating on protein. I think the variety of food got me thinking about food and thus incited hunger.

This is the same advice Drs. OZ and Roizen give in You on a Diet. Keep the same meals for breakfast and lunch, only switch up dinner. They talk a lot about variety triggering appetite and cravings. I know I'm the same. Ads, magazines, recipes they will all "put that food in my head" and before long, I want it in my hands

[retroworx]

Hi Folks:

I've been out of town and am just catching up. Forgive me for the delay in responding to some of these:

Originally Posted by Leo41

Retro-
JUDDD should have worked for you with the calorie limits you gave yourself. I suspect that your hormones are the problem. If my T3 is low, I can't lose no matter how little I eat. If you're hypothyroid, you need to be optimized medically.

Thanks, Leo. Been working since the Fall to optimize my thyroid meds. Been a real battle of wills with my Naturopath to get the last 2 dose increases -- she doesn't like to see the TSH go below 1, which may need to happen to get my FT3 up where it needs to be.

I think it's true that we hypos need at least 30g of carbs.

I keep seeing this on the LCFs board, but I haven't seen this anywhere else. I do, however, believe it's quite possible that I tanked my thyroid with years of restricted calorie/carb dieting. So now I gotta live with it.

Originally Posted by Redeemed

Retro:
Please don't leave us, Retro. You were such encouragement to me when I first started JUDDD - you, Leo and Kisha. I still value your input on this thread.

You are sooo sweet! I'm stickin' around because I keep thinking it's possible I may give this a go again at some point when I am out of the house more (I currently work from home). DDs may be less of a struggle for me then.

Originally Posted by GME

Retroworx, I'm sorry this isn't working for you. Are you sure you want to wait until June to see those docs? Usually specialists are booked up way in advance- if you call in June you might not be seeing them until August. Maybe you could call now and make an appointment for June, then cancel if you don't feel like you need it. I can only imagine how tough this must be for you.

You know, you're right! What am I waiting for??

Originally Posted by Whitlin'

Retroworx, your posts were as helpful to me over the 2 months I lurked as other's were. I think you are an important voice.

Another sweetie! You'll all NEVER get rid of me now.

Originally Posted by Ilpirata

NEW LOW LOW: I hit Virgin Fat Territory AND a new decade on Saturday Morning. 189.6. Man am I stoked.

Kisha!!!!! You really finally HAVE found the Holy [Diet] Grail!

Originally Posted by msgirl

Has anyone used Walden farm products on DDs? How can they be zero everything? I bought some marshmallow cream and applebutter to use on my Scandinavian crispbreads. Just wondering on anyone else's experiences with them.

Some are good, some are downright distasteful. When I end up with one that's not great on its own, instead of tossing it, I mix it with something else to reduce the overall calories/carbs. For instance, I don't necessarily like their jams on their own, but when I mix it in to another low cal/low carb brand I do like, (Nature's Hollow, for instance), I can improve the stats overall. I've done this with their dressing, barbeque sauce, pasta sauce, etc.

Originally Posted by Kimad

Something in my brain gets panicky when I start to restrict.

Originally Posted by Kimad

I know this may be too personal but is anyone else here a binger and if so can this WOE be successful? I am really trying to convince my diet mentality brain that this is good-different but good.

Personally, I found my first attempt with JUDDD (1 month) to be difficult in these areas. I kept to plan faithfully for the month, but found the on/off pattern to be surprisingly difficult and distracting. I thought it would be "freeing" to have regular unrestricted days, but it seems I'm better in total "lock-down" mode.

[onexone]

UD for me. I am not planning on eating refined sugar today though it keeps calling to me. I had a small individually wrapped piece of fine chocolate last UD and it seems to have opened the gates to sugar for me. not good. I have to close the barn door again.

This time round I am not interested in eating whatever I want cause it's okay to do that... all foods are allowed for me on JUDDD for now. But I am trying to make whole food choices. And I don't want to gorge myself. And I'm trying to drop the processed foods. I need to keep reminding myself of these goals which are as important to me as the weightloss itself. I don't want maintenance to be all that different from this weightloss phase. I really do want this to be the way I eat for my life. If I could be learning how to eat right now and then only have to tweak it for maintaining that would be ideal. I don't care how long it takes so long as I am moving forward.

Anyway I ended yesterday's second DD with 630 calories. I ended up eating an extra 1" cube of cheese. I just felt so lousy, but then, much later, the whole foggy woozy thing seemed to lift. I do remember looking at the clock and saying to myself "Oh it's after midnight! It's my UD I can eat!" but to my credit I didn't. I just congratulated myself that I got through DD#2 and promised myself I'd assess my experiences with this WOE next Tuesday at the one week mark, and then at the one month mark. It takes time to assess things. I am worth taking the time to figure things out right.

Enjoy your JUDDD everyone.

[Maryposa]

That class does sound killer
I do my strength training class for the same reason, yes I can't do it all, with proper form, or the most advanced versions of the moves. But I can do my best, and even though it will take me a while to get to that level at least I have something to aim for.

Today I went to shadow boxing. It was alright.

Originally Posted by batlou

I take a class at the Y called C.R.I.T. (Cardio Rope Interval Training). We do this outside and it is brutal. I think she makes it up as she goes but here is an example of the first few minutes from last night.

Run 2 laps warmup around field (Field Hockey)
On the end line do 20 pushups
Run Suicides using field markers
Run Lap
Run to nearby hill
Crab Walk Up
Bearcrawl Down
Repeat
Run Lap
Grab Weights
Do Step Ups on Picnic Tables
Run Lap
Get Partner and Wheel Barrell each other Up and Back
Run Lap
etc...

This class will kick even the most in-shape peoples butt. There are about a dozen that attend regularly and each week we get newbies that have no idea what they are getting into. Most don't stay of they ones that do they rarely return. It's not for everyone but I like it because I can gauge my progress on how I do in this class.

[Maryposa]

I like your attitude about chosing whole foods. Something that "scares" me about straight-up JUDDD is that I am sure it works great for weight loss... and I do understand their are general longevity benefits to intermittant fasting or calorie restriction, but I just would not feel ok about eating junk again, ever... even if I could eat it and be thin.

Originally Posted by onexone

UD for me. I am not planning on eating refined sugar today though it keeps calling to me. I had a small individually wrapped piece of fine chocolate last UD and it seems to have opened the gates to sugar for me. not good. I have to close the barn door again.

This time round I am not interested in eating whatever I want cause it's okay to do that... all foods are allowed for me on JUDDD for now. But I am trying to make whole food choices. And I don't want to gorge myself. And I'm trying to drop the processed foods. I need to keep reminding myself of these goals which are as important to me as the weightloss itself. I don't want maintenance to be all that different from this weightloss phase. I really do want this to be the way I eat for my life. If I could be learning how to eat right now and then only have to tweak it for maintaining that would be ideal. I don't care how long it takes so long as I am moving forward.

Anyway I ended yesterday's second DD with 630 calories. I ended up eating an extra 1" cube of cheese. I just felt so lousy, but then, much later, the whole foggy woozy thing seemed to lift. I do remember looking at the clock and saying to myself "Oh it's after midnight! It's my UD I can eat!" but to my credit I didn't. I just congratulated myself that I got through DD#2 and promised myself I'd assess my experiences with this WOE next Tuesday at the one week mark, and then at the one month mark. It takes time to assess things. I am worth taking the time to figure things out right.

Enjoy your JUDDD everyone.

[Maryposa]

Originally Posted by retroworx

I keep seeing this on the LCFs board, but I haven't seen this anywhere else. I do, however, believe it's quite possible that I tanked my thyroid with years of restricted calorie/carb dieting. So now I gotta live with it.

Veronica Berkowitz also says this and she was the lead nutritionist in Dr. Atkins' practice. I got some guidance from her and just received her new book. It's specifically for people who have metabolic issues. It's called "The Stubborn Fat Fix"

Originally Posted by retroworx

Some are good, some are downright distasteful. When I end up with one that's not great on its own, instead of tossing it, I mix it with something else to reduce the overall calories/carbs. For instance, I don't necessarily like their jams on their own, but when I mix it in to another low cal/low carb brand I do like, (Nature's Hollow, for instance), I can improve the stats overall. I've done this with their dressing, barbeque sauce, pasta sauce, etc.

That's a GREAT idea!