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Old 04-27-2009, 02:26 PM   #1171
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Congrats to all you losers!!!

I was super busy this weekend and couldn't post. I had a big UD on Saturday and am so glad that today is my DD.

Nosugarshell - your new avatar is absolutely gorgeous!!!

To all the newbies.....this is the only way I have been able to lose again! I love it because I know that I can eat what I want the next day if I need it bad enough. More times than not...I don't want it when I wake up. I am now more careful about my calories overall and I feel that I am eating some really healthy stuff.

The only hard part is when I am around a large group at a food gathering and it is my DD. That doesn't happen too often but, I am in a high profile position and people watch me like a hawk. I hate that part...cuz they are always suggesting I should try this or eat that!

Anyways, my question.....

Has anyone used Walden farm products on DDs? How can they be zero everything? I bought some marshmallow cream and applebutter to use on my Scandinavian crispbreads. Just wondering on anyone else's experiences with them.
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msgirl: I'm not a big fan of Walden Farms. I don't know how they do the zero calorie thing. I have used Jok'n'Al lemon curd for my brancrisp crackers. I think it's around 10 calories a serving. I add a little Splenda/cimmimin mix on top and it is very delicious.
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Old 04-27-2009, 02:42 PM   #1173
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Has anyone used Walden farm products on DDs? How can they be zero everything? I bought some marshmallow cream and applebutter to use on my Scandinavian crispbreads. Just wondering on anyone else's experiences with them.
By using alot of chemical cr*p , THEN watering it down, and making the serving small enough that it totals 4 calories or less.

I have tried a couple of items and thought they were very icky. I haven't tried every item they make though, so it will be interesting to hear additional "reviews". But, I am trying to eat good, natural foods only for now anyway. Good thing I never tire of garlic.

Maybe you can defrost some frozen strawberries and mash them up and use them as a sort of "jam"...

Many things go good with the crackers, but everything I am thinking of is high cal. LOL

Ohh, I remember making french toast out of it... maybe you can soak it in some egg white and fry it up. Takes some time for the egg to absorb in vs. bread, but it's interesting anyway. then add sweetener and cinnamon? Hmmm...
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Old 04-27-2009, 02:48 PM   #1174
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I've been lurking for quite sometime, learning from all the posts. I went to Dr. Johnson's website and I am trying my first DD. I so hope this works.

I, like many of you, am hypothyridic (is that even a word?) and post menopausal (due to the undiagnosed thyroid problem) and I have a problem losing weight. After reading this thread, I thought that maybe this would work for me.

I will admit it......I am hungry.....not eat your hand hungry.....but stomach feels uncomfortable hungry. I'm finding that thinking about it as only one day is making it easier, but the day is still young.

I did not weigh before starting this and will let my clothes be the guide. I didn't weigh because seeing the number on the scale could have sent me into a depression. I so hope this works. I certainly know that I feel lighter all ready with so little food in my stomach!

One question.... When I went to the JUDDD website and used their calculator I should only have 425 calories on my DD. I'm starting with 500 calories because I didn't think I could do 425 calories. Will this cause a problem activating the STR1 (sp?) gene since my calories are not as low as they should be? Will it take more time to start to lose? Also, should I strictly follow my UD caloric intake or should I lower it? How much does the UD caloric intake influence the overall weightloss? I guess what I am asking, is the UD more important to the plan or is the key to the whole plan in the DD?

I will order the book tonight, but I still want to stay on this while I wait for the book. I am so hoping that this works.

Thanks be to all of you for the great tips and information!!!!
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I used to buy those Walden Farms zero calorie jellies for my bran crackers (before JUDDD actually), but the final time I got them, they just tasted nasty to me. Just today, however, I got two jars of Nature's Hollow from Netrition (one apricot and one raspberry) at 10 cals a T. But just a teaspoon was enough for a cracker, and they are very nice, and a treat on a DD (with my hot tea).

That lemon curd sounds good, and I'll have to look into that.
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About cooking for the family.... I've been grilling a lot. A burger for them and a turkey burger or fish for me. Or I'll make chicken and I eat a white, skinless piece. Sometimes they get takeout or we stop somewhere and I just eat my own thing at home. I tell them I'm trying "to tap into my reserves." (fat reserves- it's a joke at out house). I have a wheat allergy so it's pretty normal for me not to eat what they do anyway.

I'm having a good DD today. This morning I had coffee. I packed a packet of tuna, a couple of Wasa crackers, a dill pickle and a couple of strawberries for lunch. I ate the tuna and I wasn't even hungry for the rest. It's almost 4:00 and I just finished my lunch. I'm not sure about dinner yet.
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One question.... When I went to the JUDDD website and used their calculator I should only have 425 calories on my DD. I'm starting with 500 calories because I didn't think I could do 425 calories. Will this cause a problem activating the STR1 (sp?) gene since my calories are not as low as they should be? Will it take more time to start to lose? Also, should I strictly follow my UD caloric intake or should I lower it? How much does the UD caloric intake influence the overall weightloss? I guess what I am asking, is the UD more important to the plan or is the key to the whole plan in the DD?

I will order the book tonight, but I still want to stay on this while I wait for the book. I am so hoping that this works.

Thanks be to all of you for the great tips and information!!!!
I don't think it will be a problem, just try not to go over 500! Hey, you may do better than you think!
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Thanks jgw for the reply.

I'm trying to lowcarb while doing this diet. I can still eat a big salad for dinner, but I had a hard time finding any low calorie/low carb dressing to use. The low calorie dressings look really artificial. I'm using one right now that is 100 calories for 2 tbsp, but it isn't low calorie. It's just something I had in the refrigerator and only 2 tbsp. hardly seems like enough. That is a lot of calories when you only have 500 for the whole day. I may have to rethink the dressing. Maybe I'll see what Lite mayonnaise has for a calorie count and try and use that.
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Anybody have any recipes for low calorie salad dressings or any purchased low calorie salad dressings that are tasty?
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I've started using just vinegar on my salads on my DD...not nearly as tasty as full fat ranch but a whole lot less calories
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Hi everyone! Well I did not make it through my first DD. I kept thinking there is no way I can only eat 400 calories ALL DAY. I did great until 1pm and then ate a sandwich-not calorie friendly. Then I went on to turn it into an UP. Did anyone else do this? And does anyone have any suggestions?

Something in my brain gets panicky when I start to restrict. I was super busy all day but it still did not help. I really want this to work. Planning on trying to make tomorrow a DD.
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Anybody have any recipes for low calorie salad dressings or any purchased low calorie salad dressings that are tasty?
1/2 cup of fat free cottage cheese
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Put all in a blender and blend about 30 seconds.

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Also Miracle Whip is only 35 calories a serving vs. 90 calories for real mayo.
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Thanks jgw for the reply.

I'm trying to lowcarb while doing this diet. I can still eat a big salad for dinner, but I had a hard time finding any low calorie/low carb dressing to use. The low calorie dressings look really artificial. I'm using one right now that is 100 calories for 2 tbsp, but it isn't low calorie. It's just something I had in the refrigerator and only 2 tbsp. hardly seems like enough. That is a lot of calories when you only have 500 for the whole day. I may have to rethink the dressing. Maybe I'll see what Lite mayonnaise has for a calorie count and try and use that.

I believe the Greek dressing my husband put on his salad tonight had 60 calories for 2 T.

I used 1 T. of light mayo with some canned chunked chicken breast for my dinner tonight and it had 65 cal.

I know there are these salad spritzers out there that are pretty decent. My mom watches her calories and uses them on salads all the time. They're very low in calories.
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Old 04-27-2009, 05:13 PM   #1185
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Hi everyone! Well I did not make it through my first DD. I kept thinking there is no way I can only eat 400 calories ALL DAY. I did great until 1pm and then ate a sandwich-not calorie friendly. Then I went on to turn it into an UP. Did anyone else do this? And does anyone have any suggestions?

Something in my brain gets panicky when I start to restrict. I was super busy all day but it still did not help. I really want this to work. Planning on trying to make tomorrow a DD.
It is a mind thing. I have put this saying in my siggie. "I can have it tomorrow"
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I'm trying to lowcarb while doing this diet. I can still eat a big salad for dinner, but I had a hard time finding any low calorie/low carb dressing to use. The low calorie dressings look really artificial. I'm using one right now that is 100 calories for 2 tbsp, but it isn't low calorie. It's just something I had in the refrigerator and only 2 tbsp. hardly seems like enough. That is a lot of calories when you only have 500 for the whole day. I may have to rethink the dressing. Maybe I'll see what Lite mayonnaise has for a calorie count and try and use that.
I buy a garlic parmesan at trader joe's its low fat and like 35 cals for 2 TBS. I mix it with alot of balsamic to make it go further.

You can also google for recipes. Look for home made salad dressing low cal homemade salad dressing or something like that. You can do water, balsamic, mustard and herbs and come up with something edible I'm sure.
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Hi everyone! Well I did not make it through my first DD. I kept thinking there is no way I can only eat 400 calories ALL DAY. I did great until 1pm and then ate a sandwich-not calorie friendly. Then I went on to turn it into an UP. Did anyone else do this? And does anyone have any suggestions?

Something in my brain gets panicky when I start to restrict. I was super busy all day but it still did not help. I really want this to work. Planning on trying to make tomorrow a DD.
Yes this happened to ALOT of us. Alot of us had several false starts on first DD before we succeeded. Just wake up tomorrow saying TODAY IS THE DAY!!! I WILL NOT GIVE IN. Have all your shakes ready or your food planned out for the day and whenever you want to eat something extra during DD just tell yourself "I CAN HAVE IT TOMORROW" The first one is the hardest. Mostly once you've proved you can do it they get easier.
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Hi everyone! Well I did not make it through my first DD. I kept thinking there is no way I can only eat 400 calories ALL DAY. I did great until 1pm and then ate a sandwich-not calorie friendly. Then I went on to turn it into an UP. Did anyone else do this? And does anyone have any suggestions?

Something in my brain gets panicky when I start to restrict. I was super busy all day but it still did not help. I really want this to work. Planning on trying to make tomorrow a DD.
I did that on my first DD also. I'm combining it with Fast 5 so waiting until 5pm to eat helps me tremendously on DD's. I find the hunger that hits doesn't last that long. I think what happened to me the first day was just not being used to the hunger enough to realize it really is ok and that I can have all those things tomorrow. Coke Zero is also my friend. I can fill up on it and it doesn't cause cravings for me like some people. I feel like I'm having a treat but am not adding any calories. Try it again. You may find it's easier next time now that you're starting to wrap your brain around the idea.
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Try the spray kind, very minimal calories. Good Luck.

I don't know if someone already answered your other questions but Dr. Johnson says the DD calories are much more important than the UD calories and the lower the better. That being said eat enough - up to 500 calories the first week so that the diet is doable for you. I believe that if you eat no more than 500 cal on DD for the first 2 weeks the SIRT1 gene will be activated regardless of the calculator number. And don't cheat yourself on the UD's, it is important that your body get enough calories on UD to balance out the DD's, so that it does not think it is starving and hoard everything you eat. Eat until your satisfied. Me - I overeat every UD, I try not to but I do
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Hi everyone! Well I did not make it through my first DD. I kept thinking there is no way I can only eat 400 calories ALL DAY. I did great until 1pm and then ate a sandwich-not calorie friendly. Then I went on to turn it into an UP. Did anyone else do this? And does anyone have any suggestions?

Something in my brain gets panicky when I start to restrict. I was super busy all day but it still did not help. I really want this to work. Planning on trying to make tomorrow a DD.


The great thing about JUDDDD is that everyday is a fresh start. Don't beat yourself up and try again tomorrow. On DD I like to eat a big bowl of cabbage with ACV on it or I will steam it in a can of V8 with a packet of sweetner really good if you kind-of fry it afterward. Anyway, you can have a lot for not a lot of calories so kind-of tricks my mind. Fills me up more than salad and no high calorie dressing. Also Turkey Chops and Turkey tenderloins are the lowest in calories for meat that I have found. Egg white omelets with salsa YUM hardly any calories and also the one minute pumpkin muffin if you use only the egg whites under like 60 calories I think and a great breakfast or treat.
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Second DD today and I did well even though it was harder than my first. I think that was because of a couple of things. I ran 4 miles last night for starters and it's pms week so I'm just plain hungrier. I really have found that Coke Zero is my friend on DD's and I should drink more water also, but it helps me feel treated and it fills me up also. I ended up miscalculating and eating 523 calories instead of the 500 I thought I was eating, but I think that's probably not the end of the world. Tomorrow we go out of town and it will be an UD. I will not be able to follow this exactly while gone, so I think I will just try to limit carbs or maybe I'll just enjoy myself and deal with it when I get back. Psychologically and at my current weight, I can deal with that. I really can't wait to eat this time. Last time it didn't bother me this bad and I know it the pms!
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Today was a great DD for me. I ended up with 330 calories and that was a chocolate egg cream for dinner. Very filling. I have already lost close to 3lbs of the 6lbs I am carrying of the water weight. Probably even more in the morning. I really am not sure why the water weight was so high this time. It has never been that high before, but thankfully it's coming off quickly.

Yea! UD tommorrow. I can honestly say I look forward to my DD's AND my UD's. I plan on keeping it fairly lower carb and healthy.
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Gosh guys...i think there must be something wrong with me...i am eat my hand off hungry on DD's...it is TERRIBLE...i am so hungry my belly burns...am I weak or is there something wrong with me? My Jay Robb shakes are due any day...I think I gotta eat low carb until they come just meat and veggies. I am jealous of your ablity to stick with this...not in a hateful way like...I hope they fail...but in a 'gosh, i wish I could do this wanna go cry' kinda way.
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Today was a great DD for me. I ended up with 330 calories and that was a chocolate egg cream for dinner. Very filling. I have already lost close to 3lbs of the 6lbs I am carrying of the water weight. Probably even more in the morning. I really am not sure why the water weight was so high this time. It has never been that high before, but thankfully it's coming off quickly.

Yea! UD tommorrow. I can honestly say I look forward to my DD's AND my UD's. I plan on keeping it fairly lower carb and healthy.
you know, I think I'll do that next time. I love my egg creams and one that's really filling would be enough on my DD's. I've made a decision not to obsess at all about food while I'm away. I look forward to restarting when I get back. I think the thing that is SO wonderful about this for me is that I feel like for the first time in over 10 years, I'm not obsessing about what I'm going to eat. Awesome!
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Gosh guys...i think there must be something wrong with me...i am eat my hand off hungry on DD's...it is TERRIBLE...i am so hungry my belly burns...am I weak or is there something wrong with me? My Jay Robb shakes are due any day...I think I gotta eat low carb until they come just meat and veggies. I am jealous of your ablity to stick with this...not in a hateful way like...I hope they fail...but in a 'gosh, i wish I could do this wanna go cry' kinda way.
Aim, today was A LOT harder for me than my first DD but still do-able. I was very busy though. If I had been home, or very inactive, I'm not sure I would have made it. TOnight, I went with dh to the grocery store to get food to take with us on our trip and it was so hard to walk through the store and pick out yummy foods. I kept telling myself I get to eat this tomorrow when they do, but I was so hungry. I wouldn't describe it as burning, but I get a little weak feeling, but it never lasts long. I'm sorry it's so hard for you. I hope the shakes work! Have you tried eggcreams? I LOVE them.
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[COLOR="Green"]I can honestly say I look forward to both days too, Shell. Isn't it great?

((aim)) I have thought your plans/menus all sounded great - well, except all the radishes, which I can't eat because they bother my tummy. Actually, all that you posted as your plan today was 275 calories up through lunch. Did you eat anything after lunch? I wouldn't be able to manage on just 275. Other than that I can only sing to you ... ...Tomorrow, Tommorow... ...

Actually, I had a Coke Zero today, LBishop, because we had Subway for lunch and they keep it in their refrigerators as one of their to-go drinks. Sometimes diet drinks do fill a gap. Btw, can anyone tell me what the difference is between a "Pepsi 0" and a "diet Pepsi"?

Had a 1,700 calorie up day. I counted calories at 1,600, but since some of what I ate was homemade, I'm going to assume I'd underestimate! Following my 700 calorie day yesterday, I think I'm right on track. I'm hoping to go lower tomorrow and keep it mostly shakes and low sodium, drink lots of water, and find a loss the next morning!

JunkInMyTrunk, I think pushing 40 is right about the SIRT-1 gene activation. Just keep the 500 number in mind.

Kimad, look at the calendar in 2-day sets - maybe even mark a disposable calendar that way! There will be plenty of calories in every set of days - you can count on them. They will just be arranged for weight loss and health benefits![/COLOR]
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Thanks everyone for all your help. I am going to give this a try again today and just do lo-carb. It seems to keep me less inclined to want to eat everything. I know this may be too personal but is anyone else here a binger and if so can this WOE be successful? I am really trying to convince my diet mentality brain that this is good-different but good.
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Thanks everyone for all your help. I am going to give this a try again today and just do lo-carb. It seems to keep me less inclined to want to eat everything. I know this may be too personal but is anyone else here a binger and if so can this WOE be successful? I am really trying to convince my diet mentality brain that this is good-different but good.
Kimad, good morning. Checking in before I'm off on vacation till Friday night. I don't know if I would call myself a binger, but I do love food. To me, I like the simplicity of this woe because it takes focus off of food and lets me relax. As for low carb, I have just started, but I'm finding low carb is easier on DD's so far for me and I've only had one UD (today is my second) and I'm allowing myself more carbs, especially today as I will be traveling, but as I continue, I may find that I need to lower the carbs more. I don' t know yet. I really do like the simplicity of this!
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Old 04-28-2009, 05:30 AM   #1199
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I wanted to respond to your question about UDs because I'm also post-menopausal and hypothyroid. I knew that the number JUDDD gave me for UDs was much too high for me to lose, but I worried about lowering it too much--that it might work against the program. However, when I read his book, Dr. J indicated that the UD number was a limit rather than a requirement, and it was OK to eat less. In fact, he mentioned that when people kept their DDs and didn't lose, it was almost always too many calories on UDs. So you can play around with the UD number of calories to see what works for you.
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Old 04-28-2009, 05:35 AM   #1200
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Kimad-

I am a first-class binger, and JUDDD actually helps me because I have such a sense of control on this plan that I really don't binge at all. Once I did a DD (and I got through it because I wanted to prove to myself that I could exist on only 400 cal!), I felt a sense of control that I've never experienced before in my life.

The key to this for me is planning. I plan even my UDs, knowing what I'll eat for the day. Sometimes I'm more flexible on UDs, but I think what keeps me from binging is that this is not at all restrictive. If I feel like having something, I can tell myself that I'll have it on my UD. And being able to schedule treats like this keeps me from going overboard--I think.
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