JUDDDD / Alternate Day Diet April 2009

[jgw]

Originally Posted by msgirl

WELCOME all my newbie friends!! I have only been JUDDING for right at week now - so I am just as new

UD today! Not really that hungry but that seems typical. Last week when I started I thought I could have eaten an entire COW on my UD but suprisingly, I just wasn't very hungry.

I am certain I am still losing, cause I am trying on clothes that used to fit constantly, but I won't weight til Thursday. Still, I am nervous even about that because TOM is due to arrive Saturday. I just need to remember water weight is my enemy

I had a DD yesterday and I thought I would eat up some food today, well I'm not hungry at all. That's what so great about JUDDDing.

[jgw]

Originally Posted by Jen415

Hey y'all.....well, after my very first DD........I lost 6 lbs. Just like that! Who'd a thunk!

Here are yesterday's stats:
Calories--432
Protein: 8%
Carbs: 47%
Fat: 45%

Wow, those ratios are not good! I guess it's because all I had yesterday was coffee with cream and TWO McDonald's ice cream cones. I promise, my next DD will have more protein and less carbs.

Congrats Jen!!

[LBishop]

Originally Posted by jgw

Congrats Jen!!

Janice, what do you eat on your down days since you aren't low carbing? I'm still doing Fast 5, but am thinking I might like to try JUDDD at some point so I'm lurking and asking questions here and there. Since I only have about 10 pounds to lose and those are all vanity pounds, I'm interested in going ahead and adding back in carbs (good ones) I'm curious what you eat on down days.

[Ilpirata]

I believe I am losing, I feel smaller, but TOM just arrived today so I wont know for sure for another week. Scale wise I am the same as of now.

When I begain JUDDDD I decided to up my carbs so I could allow for more veggies but in giving myself an inch I took a mile. I now am eating things I would have previously never allowed to even touch my lips.
Starting tomorrow I am back to strict low carbing while staying w/JUDD. Yes, I may be able to lose weight without doing so but physically I just feel better when my carbs are low and my fat intake is high.
I've realized (again) I can have one or the other, high fat or high carb, not both.

Hey Holly, I eat WAY MORE carbs on JUDD than I did before. I aim for 50 on UD but have gone as high as 100. Keep in mind that anything under 100 is still considered low carb. So your 80 is much higher than you're used to seeing but really isnt BAD. I've been losing better than ever even with higher carbs. I know how freaky it is at first but just keep doing what you're doing... i think you're on the right track. I mainly control carbs now because of the help with appetite.

Bride, Glad your first DD was a success! Sounds like you're doing great.

Welcome MIKE!

[Ilpirata]

FINALLY got back to my ATL (ALL Time Low) stat weight. It took a four DD four UD cycle to get back there! That'll learn me next time I want to eat Easter cupcakes. The good news is that I'm back on track and can head into VFT hopefully very soon.

Also I've been doing AWF on DD lately but yesterday was forced to eat lunch at a business engagement. And I still dropped weight which is a good reminder for me that as long as I'm in the 500 cal or under range I'm following JUDD and will be successful. Happy DAY.

[GME]

I've been eating higher carb on my UDs since I started JUDDDing too. Not so much on DDs since I try to focus on getting enough protein and high protein (usually) = low carb.

I know I shouldn't, but I weigh everyday (with full knowledge that scales are wonky and stupid) and today is my 1st UD I actually gained anything. I had always just held steady before. I'm not putting much stock in it though, I ate pretty late last night. The real number is after a DD.

Good luck everyone!

[GME]

Originally Posted by Ilpirata

FINALLY got back to my ATL (ALL Time Low) stat weight. It took a four DD four UD cycle to get back there! That'll learn me next time I want to eat Easter cupcakes. The good news is that I'm back on track and can head into VFT hopefully very soon.

Also I've been doing AWF on DD lately but yesterday was forced to eat lunch at a business engagement. And I still dropped weight which is a good reminder for me that as long as I'm in the 500 cal or under range I'm following JUDD and will be successful. Happy DAY.

[jgw]

Originally Posted by LBishop

Janice, what do you eat on your down days since you aren't low carbing? I'm still doing Fast 5, but am thinking I might like to try JUDDD at some point so I'm lurking and asking questions here and there. Since I only have about 10 pounds to lose and those are all vanity pounds, I'm interested in going ahead and adding back in carbs (good ones) I'm curious what you eat on down days.

Hello LBishop,
On my DD I drink coffee with cream and splenda (a couple of cups) for breakfast, water throughout the day and an occasional diet pepsi or diet green tea.
I try to hold out until my evening meal and it is usually some oatmeal or cream of wheat (keeps me full), a few blueberries and maybe a 100 cal bag of popcorn and diet soda if I get hungry before bedtime.

Anything that is portion control, it's easier to calculate calories.

[Jen415]

Originally Posted by Ilpirata

FINALLY got back to my ATL (ALL Time Low) stat weight. It took a four DD four UD cycle to get back there! That'll learn me next time I want to eat Easter cupcakes. The good news is that I'm back on track and can head into VFT hopefully very soon.

Also I've been doing AWF on DD lately but yesterday was forced to eat lunch at a business engagement. And I still dropped weight which is a good reminder for me that as long as I'm in the 500 cal or under range I'm following JUDD and will be successful. Happy DAY.

Excellent!

Almost 6 hours into my first UD and I have only had about the same amount of calories that I had yesterday. I just don't feel hungry (or at least hungry enough to do something about it). If I end up only having about 1200 calories today, will that hurt anything?

[snaggle]

good question Jen, I am having a problem getting to where I should be on UD's too. Part of it is paranoia about carbs/calories and my super strong motivation to lose right now, but a lot of it is just hunger supression too. I just wonder how important it is from a metabolic standpoint to make sure the UD's are really up.

[aim in Fla*working]

Originally Posted by Cherry Blossom

Aim, I can't believe it! I am sleeping!!! Thanks for the info. because it worked great for me! After I took it, I started to feel real sleepy and slept peacefully through the night for two nights in a row. I have been on some kind of sleep aid for 5 or so months, so thank you, thank you!!!

happy sleeping! AND it is great for your bones too!!

[aim in Fla*working]

okay guys...I had a wasa cracker with tomatoes on top
Lunch-tuna little mayo and old bay on a wasa cracker...
same for dinner...
total came to be 470.
Funny..I am not 'hungry' but i feel nervouse because i am not full.

[Dreamtrue]

Just checking in.I've been doing JUDD for 2 full weeks now. I said I would not step on the scale until a month but had to check in today. I've gained 4lbs! And its not my TOM either. Which sucks so bad. I have not been doing Judd perfect I admit. My dd range should be between 500-870 cals and I did have two days where my cals were 900-1000. I reviewed my past two weeks and did up the caloric average which came to 1400cals a day. I don't even know whether I should give it another two weeks or not because I can't afford to gain 4 more pounds. I just feel so discouraged. I'm considering going back to regular low carb.

[homestretch]

Originally Posted by Ilpirata

FINALLY got back to my ATL (ALL Time Low) stat weight. It took a four DD four UD cycle to get back there! That'll learn me next time I want to eat Easter cupcakes. The good news is that I'm back on track and can head into VFT hopefully very soon.

Also I've been doing AWF on DD lately but yesterday was forced to eat lunch at a business engagement. And I still dropped weight which is a good reminder for me that as long as I'm in the 500 cal or under range I'm following JUDD and will be successful. Happy DAY.

Giving you a Whoooot!

[homestretch]

Originally Posted by rhlong

Just checking in.I've been doing JUDD for 2 full weeks now. I said I would not step on the scale until a month but had to check in today. I've gained 4lbs! And its not my TOM either. Which sucks so bad. I have not been doing Judd perfect I admit. My dd range should be between 500-870 cals and I did have two days where my cals were 900-1000. I reviewed my past two weeks and did up the caloric average which came to 1400cals a day. I don't even know whether I should give it another two weeks or not because I can't afford to gain 4 more pounds. I just feel so discouraged. I'm considering going back to regular low carb.

Hi Rhonda
First I would recommend weighing again in a day or two. You never know if it could be a fluctuation. I am still trying to decide if this is for me or not but I am very glad that I am doing it for now because I feel like I learned some things about hunger and eating. Was low carb working for you? If so maybe it would be wise to go back to it. Also, do you find yourself eating quite a few more carbs on JUDDD? Increasing carbs will certainly increase the water weight in your body. I know I allowed myself a few too many carbs on up days and I had to get it back in check. I have PCOS and while I love increasing the carbs it messes with me. Good luck and keep us posted on how things proceed with you.

[mammapo]

Originally Posted by rhlong

Just checking in.I've been doing JUDD for 2 full weeks now. I said I would not step on the scale until a month but had to check in today. I've gained 4lbs! And its not my TOM either. Which sucks so bad. I have not been doing Judd perfect I admit. My dd range should be between 500-870 cals and I did have two days where my cals were 900-1000. I reviewed my past two weeks and did up the caloric average which came to 1400cals a day. I don't even know whether I should give it another two weeks or not because I can't afford to gain 4 more pounds. I just feel so discouraged. I'm considering going back to regular low carb.

Rhonda - a lot of us had an initial 'bounce' up when we switched to JUDDD. I say ANY diet programme should be given a full 12 weeks to prove itself. 12 weeks allows for you to determine the following things:

a) Does my body reach stasis on this WOE or can I continue to lose relatively steadily?

b) Does diet fatigue set in, or can I maintain this WOE?

It also allows you to tweak things - like reducing calorie load if you find you're hypothyroid, or tweaking your carb levels (some of us had to raise carbs to lose weight! Shocker), etc etc.

The key is to have a little patience. If you can't give a full 12 weeks, for sure give it 5 weeks - if I remember correctly LEO among others was nearly ready to throw in the towel at first. I sure as heck was when I experienced my initial 'bounce'.... but here I am 14(15??) weeks later and I've lost a ton. It might have been at a total weekly average at a pound a week, but that pound sure adds up if you give it enough weeks.

also, be suresuresure that you're strictly monitoring your calorie intake. For the first two weeks, I'd be DEAD sure that I logged everything into ******, if I were going to eat real food and not do fasting or shakes on DDs. Dr. Johnson says nearly everybody underestimates calorie intake and overestimates excercise. Be vigilant.

Also again ... ware you drinking water? How much? water bloat can be caused by fat loss (yes really!), hormones, heat and humidity, carbs (initially), and a few other things. But the good news is that water flushes!! You've got to drink water to flush water.


(((hugs)))

[jgw]

Originally Posted by rhlong

Just checking in.I've been doing JUDD for 2 full weeks now. I said I would not step on the scale until a month but had to check in today. I've gained 4lbs! And its not my TOM either. Which sucks so bad. I have not been doing Judd perfect I admit. My dd range should be between 500-870 cals and I did have two days where my cals were 900-1000. I reviewed my past two weeks and did up the caloric average which came to 1400cals a day. I don't even know whether I should give it another two weeks or not because I can't afford to gain 4 more pounds. I just feel so discouraged. I'm considering going back to regular low carb.

Rhonda I gained a little in the beginning and did not see the scale go down until almost 2-2 1/2 weeks later. My body had to adjust.
On DD try to keep your calories as low as possible. Yesterday I ate around 300 calories and kept myself hydrated.
Give it another try and stay true to your calories intake numbers, you will see results whether eating lowcarb or regular foods.

[Leo41]

Rhonda

I'd give this more time--IF you can stay on target on your DDs. They are the key to this WOE, in my experience. Even though I've been doing this for about 4 months now, I don't eat anything on a DD unless I am absolutely sure of the calorie count (mainly from the packaging--e.g, sardines, tuna, or yoghurt), and I keep to my 400 cal religiously. Dr. J says that it takes about 3 weeks for the effect of this plan to manifest itself, and I didn't start losing significantly until I was doing it for about a month. Keep in mind that the DDs that you went way over, were not DDs at all, so you really haven't been on this very long. In addition, a gain such as you experienced could be mainly water, too, so, as mammapo suggested, it's best to give it more time if you feel you can. Some people don't like DDs at all, and this isn't the plan for them. But if you think you can manage it, don't give up too soon.


Jen & Snaggle

On your question about UD calories--because I'm post-menopause AND hypothyroid, I have to restrict calories way lower than my UD number on JUDDD. I usually aim for between 1200 and 1400 on an UD. I was concerned at first, but according to what I read in the book, Dr. J says that the UD numbers are flexible; the strict number is for DDs. Although I keep my UDs low, I've also discovered that I also lose if I have a relatively high UD (perhaps 2500 cal) every two weeks or so. It seems to confuse the body even more:-)

So don't worry too much about UD calories--unless you're not losing.

[Dreamtrue]

Originally Posted by homestretch

Hi Rhonda
First I would recommend weighing again in a day or two. You never know if it could be a fluctuation. I am still trying to decide if this is for me or not but I am very glad that I am doing it for now because I feel like I learned some things about hunger and eating. Was low carb working for you? If so maybe it would be wise to go back to it. Also, do you find yourself eating quite a few more carbs on JUDDD? Increasing carbs will certainly increase the water weight in your body. I know I allowed myself a few too many carbs on up days and I had to get it back in check. I have PCOS and while I love increasing the carbs it messes with me. Good luck and keep us posted on how things proceed with you.

Originally Posted by mammapo

Rhonda - a lot of us had an initial 'bounce' up when we switched to JUDDD. I say ANY diet programme should be given a full 12 weeks to prove itself. 12 weeks allows for you to determine the following things:

a) Does my body reach stasis on this WOE or can I continue to lose relatively steadily?

b) Does diet fatigue set in, or can I maintain this WOE?

It also allows you to tweak things - like reducing calorie load if you find you're hypothyroid, or tweaking your carb levels (some of us had to raise carbs to lose weight! Shocker), etc etc.

The key is to have a little patience. If you can't give a full 12 weeks, for sure give it 5 weeks - if I remember correctly LEO among others was nearly ready to throw in the towel at first. I sure as heck was when I experienced my initial 'bounce'.... but here I am 14(15??) weeks later and I've lost a ton. It might have been at a total weekly average at a pound a week, but that pound sure adds up if you give it enough weeks.

also, be suresuresure that you're strictly monitoring your calorie intake. For the first two weeks, I'd be DEAD sure that I logged everything into ******, if I were going to eat real food and not do fasting or shakes on DDs. Dr. Johnson says nearly everybody underestimates calorie intake and overestimates excercise. Be vigilant.

Also again ... ware you drinking water? How much? water bloat can be caused by fat loss (yes really!), hormones, heat and humidity, carbs (initially), and a few other things. But the good news is that water flushes!! You've got to drink water to flush water.


(((hugs)))

Originally Posted by jgw

Rhonda I gained a little in the beginning and did not see the scale go down until almost 2-2 1/2 weeks later. My body had to adjust.
On DD try to keep your calories as low as possible. Yesterday I ate around 300 calories and kept myself hydrated.
Give it another try and stay true to your calories intake numbers, you will see results whether eating lowcarb or regular foods.

Yes I think I will try to do this at least for another 2 weeks. Like I said I haven't been perfect so I can't blame the diet. And I could drink more water. As far as calories, I have measured and written down every single thing I've put into my body. I even bought measuring spoons and cups and I've never done that ever. I definitely do think I've been eating less than normal so maybe my body is in shock and it will take a couple of weeks for it to become unshocked and to start losing weight. I bought some weight loss shakes this weekend so I may incorporate those on my dd's as well.

[Leo41]

Rhonda

You may be on to something about "shock" to your body. I read somewhere that any time one begins a new plan, there's an initial adjustment period, and keep in mind that when the body fears loss, it puts water into those empty fat cells which serves to increase scale weight although the person has actually lost fat. That's why you need to give it a little more time.

By buying things that are already "counted" for me (as I mentioned in my previous post), I don't bother with all that weighing and measuring because that would drive me nuts. But everyone has to approach this in a way that fits his/her personality and lifestyle. I wish you the best with it because I've experienced only good things from JUDDD, and I want everyone else to have similar experiences.

[vanilla_latte]

Hello! Janice is the only one who noticed I was back (my MIL passed away), so I thought maybe I'd been kicked out!

This is a fast movin' thread! I started out with a MD yesterday that turned into an UD. It's usually a DD, but had dinner at a friend's house and didn't know what was on the menu.

So, today is another UD just to keep on my usual schedule (I didn't stay on schedule last week with the funeral and all). I'm trying to keep it more MD though. Had a pumpkin egg cream for breakfast, BLT salad for lunch and will have Fage yogurt w/strawberries for a snack. I saw a beef/cabbage casserole somewhere that will probably be dinner.

[Jen415]

Rhonda: I just have to tell you I LOVE your signature! The Office is one of my favorite UK shows!

[jgw]

Originally Posted by vanilla_latte

Hello! Janice is the only one who noticed I was back (my MIL passed away), so I thought maybe I'd been kicked out!

This is a fast movin' thread! I started out with a MD yesterday that turned into an UD. It's usually a DD, but had dinner at a friend's house and didn't know what was on the menu.

So, today is another UD just to keep on my usual schedule (I didn't stay on schedule last week with the funeral and all). I'm trying to keep it more MD though. Had a pumpkin egg cream for breakfast, BLT salad for lunch and will have Fage yogurt w/strawberries for a snack. I saw a beef/cabbage casserole somewhere that will probably be dinner.

Vanilla I love pumpkin egg creams, Yummm!!!! I got some pumpkin frozen in individual serving sizes in my freezer. I think I will make me a egg cream when I get home.

[vanilla_latte]

Janice, I just posted some loose recipes on the "What is an egg cream" thread on the main board. I love them! Freezing some individually is a great idea! Pumpkin, Chocolate Peanut Butter and Gingerbread are my favorite. Yummy!!

[jgw]

Originally Posted by vanilla_latte

Janice, I just posted some loose recipes on the "What is an egg cream" thread on the main board. I love them! Freezing some individually is a great idea! Pumpkin, Chocolate Peanut Butter and Gingerbread are my favorite. Yummy!!

They are great!

[Thaltom]

I am new to JUDD, but have been lcing since Feb this year. I would love to join your group. I am doing Judd with LC. Your posts have been inspiring and informative. Wow--tweaking a program can be frustrating, but some of you have it down to a science.

Pumpkin egg cream sounds heavenly- Can I get your recipe?

[Ilpirata]

Originally Posted by Thaltom

I am new to JUDD, but have been lcing since Feb this year. I would love to join your group. I am doing Judd with LC. Your posts have been inspiring and informative. Wow--tweaking a program can be frustrating, but some of you have it down to a science.

Pumpkin egg cream sounds heavenly- Can I get your recipe?

Welcome to the thread!

[Redeemed]

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Well, what a day yesterday! A DD for me. I thought I'd try 300 calories between 5 and 7 PM. Then went to work for a ten hour shift with only coffee. The shift went just fine - no real hunger. I was supposed to get off work at 6:30 AM. However, day staff didn't show up and I had to stay at work until 10 AM. That's a long time with no food and the last "meal" 300 calories the evening before. Next time I'll pack a sandwich for emergencies. I found some light soup for 120 calories for a 2 cup serving. I'm just not a canned soup person. I do love my old-fashioned hot cereal for DD's. One serving can satisfy me for several hours.

[Redeemed]

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[jgw]

Originally Posted by Thaltom

I am new to JUDD, but have been lcing since Feb this year. I would love to join your group. I am doing Judd with LC. Your posts have been inspiring and informative. Wow--tweaking a program can be frustrating, but some of you have it down to a science.

Pumpkin egg cream sounds heavenly- Can I get your recipe?

Thaltom
1-2 eggs
1 teaspoon cinnamon
2-3 tbsp pumpkin
2-3 oz heavy cream
I use cold coffee 1 cup
splenda to taste
5 icecubes

Blend together and enjoy!