TWEAKIN' OUR WAY to The Melting Pot: FastFive, JUDDD, OSMF: April 2009

[jgw]

Originally Posted by Ilpirata

Hey Janice,
You and i have the same days now LOL. I also did UD Saturday, MD Sunday, DD Monday - jumped on the scale this morning and am at exactly my low low stat weight so matching what I weighed on my official weigh in day Saturday Morning. This is awesome because it bolsters my confidence that I will again register a loss after two more down days and official weigh in!

Kisha I am so excited this plan is working.
Oh, did I mention I lost 1 and 1/2 inches from my waist!

[jgw]

Originally Posted by homestretch

I posted on the JUDDD thread also. I simply cannot believe how a DD suppresses my appetite on and UD. Does everyone else feel like they just do not want to eat after a DD? It is a very strange feeling but I made myself eat some steel cut oats at 10:00 even though I was not hungry. I love it!

True, I went to bed with my stomach kind of growling but was not bad. I thought this morning would extremely hungry but food was the last thing on my mind. I knew we were doing a state test today and I did not know how long I would be standing and in the testing area so I grabbed a piece of whole grain toast (warm) with a little of peanut butter and headed out the door.

Love It!

[Ilpirata]

Oh, did I mention I lost 1 and 1/2 inches from my waist!

Boo YA!

[dasiey]

Originally Posted by Ilpirata

Boo YA!

thats so cool you are doing gr8

[maizenbluebabe]

EmandM, it looks like you have pretty well got your problem solved (but I would need a calculator to figure out the complications of the right calorie intake as effectively as you did! )

Jan, like you, one of the things I appreciate about this WOE is the lack of hunger.

it looks like most everyone is doing awesome--lots of creative thinking going on here.

gotta run--busy time of year for us from now until Old Man Winter arrives. I bet everyone is in the same boat. Just dont forget to stick to your plans while picnicking and partying and and cook-outs and going to the beach and all the rest of the good stuff that comes with nice weather!

[EmandM]

Hi there, just a quick post to say hi! I'll catch up with everyone tomorrow. I haven't had a lot of time to be online today. I did just order two Jillian Michaels dvd's. I like to vary my workouts and I heard these ones are good! We'll see. I am off to read and then go to bed. More tomorrow!

[hadenuff]

Hey tweakers. Checkin in. I have decided to tweak a little more. All you know what breaks out on the weekends for me and so instead of trying to fight it I am going to roll with it. I am going to try MD M-F and UD sat and sun and see how that goes. May add a true DD in the middle of the week somewhere if I can. Still have hard times with those but 700 days are fine for me. I will let you know how it goes.

[maizenbluebabe]

Originally Posted by hadenuff

Hey tweakers. Checkin in. I have decided to tweak a little more. All you know what breaks out on the weekends for me and so instead of trying to fight it I am going to roll with it. I am going to try MD M-F and UD sat and sun and see how that goes. May add a true DD in the middle of the week somewhere if I can. Still have hard times with those but 700 days are fine for me. I will let you know how it goes.

Ah, Wendy--TWEAK is what we do BEST here, so tweak away with the rest of us!

I am adding Fast Five to my eating schedule for a few days and it seems to be working. Down .7 pound yesterday so good DD and today is UD and I am having only coffee until 1 and then will break my fast with my eggs scrambled in buttah!

I have lots of energy these days, and a good thing--much work to do this week!

Have a super day everyone. BBL

[jgw]

Originally Posted by maizenbluebabe

I am adding Fast Five to my eating schedule for a few days and it seems to be working. Down .7 pound yesterday so good DD and today is UD and I am having only coffee until 1 and then will break my fast with my eggs scrambled in buttah!

I have lots of energy these days, and a good thing--much work to do this week!

Have a super day everyone. BBL

Great Job!

[snaggle]

I am so happy this group is all 'bout the tweakin' ! I proposed a plan the other day
that combined fast five and Judd and I have done "further modifications" in order to
make it really do-able with my lifestyle. The problem I was having was figuring out the
third down day. Most folks do them MWF, but I am off on Mondays and lollygag around the house (well not really) and just know for myself that scheduling dd's on mondays will not work. On the other hand I really know I will be prone to cheating if I have one on the weekends too. SO........................my final plan is this: Sundays and Mondays will both be 1200 calories, (med days), Tuesdays and Thursdays will be my 400 calorie down days, Wednesday and Friday will be my up days, but only at 1700 calories, which gives me 1400 for my Saturdays. The kicker to the plan is that on Saturdays or any other day that we are socializing, I will save all the calories ala fast five, and have a nice dinner out and not feel like I am missing anything. The average comes out to 1142 a day which is right where I need to be to lose......at least when I am eating on a more steady plan it has been.
What I am exited about with this plan is that I am thinking I could stay on it a long time without cheating because it just works so well with my lifestyle. I always fall apart on the weekends, often beginning friday night, or I feel deprived like I did at bookclub last friday when I could only pick at the filling of the delicious seafood lasagna and had to refuse all the other appetizers and the cake because it did not fit my plan. With this plan, I could have at least had a little of everything but the cake. I forgot to mention that I will only be allowing carbs (and even then, only up to 50 max) on two days a week.
I have been on Atkins induction and lost 4.5 lbs the first week. Yesterday was my first down day and it went great. I was fine all day and ate nothing. (By the way, I am doing my down days, fast five style too) At dinner I made a big ol' taco salad that only added up to 410 calories and filled me up. I even had a good workout. I was also happy to see the scale today....................down another lb this morning! yay.
So, what do y'all think of just having 2 down days? Does it defeat the whole JUDDD concept? Am I just tweaking this all too much?
I look forward to checking in with everyone and getting/giving advice. I have been a low carber a long time, as you can see by my join date. Have kept off the first 40 lbs (with brief forays up/down 10 lbs here and there) for two years now, but really want to get down to fighting weight in the 140's. I am only 5'3", but being menopausal and a SLOW loser has made it really tough. Perhaps, this is my ticket to a normal BMI.

[maizenbluebabe]

Originally Posted by snaggle

I am so happy this group is all 'bout the tweakin' ! I proposed a plan the other day
that combined fast five and Judd and I have done "further modifications" in order to
make it really do-able with my lifestyle. The problem I was having was figuring out the
third down day. Most folks do them MWF, but I am off on Mondays and lollygag around the house (well not really) and just know for myself that scheduling dd's on mondays will not work. On the other hand I really know I will be prone to cheating if I have one on the weekends too. SO........................my final plan is this: Sundays and Mondays will both be 1200 calories, (med days), Tuesdays and Thursdays will be my 400 calorie down days, Wednesday and Friday will be my up days, but only at 1700 calories, which gives me 1400 for my Saturdays. The kicker to the plan is that on Saturdays or any other day that we are socializing, I will save all the calories ala fast five, and have a nice dinner out and not feel like I am missing anything. The average comes out to 1142 a day which is right where I need to be to lose......at least when I am eating on a more steady plan it has been.
What I am exited about with this plan is that I am thinking I could stay on it a long time without cheating because it just works so well with my lifestyle. I always fall apart on the weekends, often beginning friday night, or I feel deprived like I did at bookclub last friday when I could only pick at the filling of the delicious seafood lasagna and had to refuse all the other appetizers and the cake because it did not fit my plan. With this plan, I could have at least had a little of everything but the cake. I forgot to mention that I will only be allowing carbs (and even then, only up to 50 max) on two days a week.
I have been on Atkins induction and lost 4.5 lbs the first week. Yesterday was my first down day and it went great. I was fine all day and ate nothing. (By the way, I am doing my down days, fast five style too) At dinner I made a big ol' taco salad that only added up to 410 calories and filled me up. I even had a good workout. I was also happy to see the scale today....................down another lb this morning! yay.
So, what do y'all think of just having 2 down days? Does it defeat the whole JUDDD concept? Am I just tweaking this all too much?
I look forward to checking in with everyone and getting/giving advice. I have been a low carber a long time, as you can see by my join date. Have kept off the first 40 lbs (with brief forays up/down 10 lbs here and there) for two years now, but really want to get down to fighting weight in the 140's. I am only 5'3", but being menopausal and a SLOW loser has made it really tough. Perhaps, this is my ticket to a normal BMI.

YOU GO, GIRL! YOU ACTUALLY HAVE A PLAN! I think where most of make a mistake and "lose ground BUT NOT POUNDS" is that we dont plan ahead or EVEN HAVE A PLAN that is specific to the needs of our specific work schedule and lifestyle. It is certainly worth trying faithfully for about 3 weeks and see where that gets you. After all, Dr Johnson claims that the way his plan works is that over a period of time, you are taking in fewer calories than your body needs so it has to lose weight over the passage of a week or even ten days. So surely if this is so, then there is no "sacred rule " for doing calorie cutting as long as it is regular and you dont pig out--and your plan sure does NOt sound like a "pig out" to me but very sensible.

If you maintain doing this, then you need to Tweak calories a bit more somewhere during your week, but if you lose, then you know you are on the right track! And going VLC or close to ZC is the only way I can lose weight no matter if I follow JUDDD or Fast Five or combine them so think that will also help you.

I dont care what a few rare zealots at other threads claim about going ZC or JUDDD or Fast Five, ONE SIZE DOES NOT FIT ALL NO MATTER HOW PERFECTLY AN INDIVIDUAL MAY FOLLOW A PLAN!! (And most of US are well aware of that which is why we began tweaking JUDDD and other fasting plans months ago.)

Also, you mention working out so that will build muscle and might show a "weight gain" on your scale since muscle weighs more than fat--so dont be discouraged if your #$!&@ scale is like mine and sometimes doesnt reflect the 'good life" you are leading.

You will be an inspiration to others here who have slowed down or are stalled, so please let us know frequently how it goes. It is wonderful to have new members who are so creative!

[snaggle]

Thanks Maizenblue babe, I love the encouragement. I have always struggled with the concept of how to work a plan into a lifetime thing and my friends and family all just laugh now because my DH and I are either "hard core" or off plan and when we are
hard core, it is much harder to plan our events. I really think this plan can work around that. Having the two down days in the middle of my work week makes it pretty easy, as I found yesterday. I just hope I can stay this motivated.
Long term I guess I will stick to the same schedule and just start slowly adding in calories and see where I need to stop. I would be so happy to get to goal this time.
In my 39, yes 39! years of dieting, I have never once actually gotten to goal before
falling off the wagon. CLEARLY, keeping motivated and on plan is an issue for me.

[icandoit]

I just wanted to tell you guys that i was switching over to south beach diet. I will continue to read though .

[jgw]

Originally Posted by sassymanal

I just wanted to tell you guys that i was switching over to south beach diet. I will continue to read though .

I wish you the best of luck!

[CrystalPistol]

Snaggle.. I think your plan sounds perfect for you. I WANT it to be, because your last statement hit home. I'm 28 so far, and I have never been to goal either. The closest I came was 2 years ago, and even that was 33% of the way there. You an' me... we're gonna do it!

[EmandM]

Snaggle - great plan. We love to tweak over here! I think the on-or-off a diet mentality takes it's toll. I look at JUDDD (with tweaks) as a woe, so I can't fail (which would lead to throwing in the towel and going off plan). This woe eliminates that aspect. I have had anywhere from 3-5 UD's in a row at certain times (ie. Christmas), and I would just do a DD as soon as I can. I never felt like I had failed.

MBB - congrats on the .7 loss and the tweaking with Fast 5. Gotta love a fellow tweaker!

Well, today I am officially back at goal! I am thrilled (yet still waiting for the shoe to drop). I will continue to slowly increase my calories on UD and see if I continue to maintain. I feel like a million bucks and am really happy I am now able to eat more on maintenance. I am going to my parents place for Easter, and will do two fairly high UD's in a row.

What are everyone's plans for the long weekend?

[Ilpirata]

What are everyone's plans for the long weekend?

I have a party on friday night. Saturday day at my parents will be our easter as it is easier for my brother's family to do it on saturday. sunday chores and my sister will come over to hang out... good times and YAY! Saturday is totally my UP DAY.

[maizenbluebabe]

Originally Posted by EmandM

Snaggle - great plan. We love to tweak over here! I think the on-or-off a diet mentality takes it's toll. I look at JUDDD (with tweaks) as a woe, so I can't fail (which would lead to throwing in the towel and going off plan). This woe eliminates that aspect. I have had anywhere from 3-5 UD's in a row at certain times (ie. Christmas), and I would just do a DD as soon as I can. I never felt like I had failed.

MBB - congrats on the .7 loss and the tweaking with Fast 5. Gotta love a fellow tweaker!

Well, today I am officially back at goal! I am thrilled (yet still waiting for the shoe to drop). I will continue to slowly increase my calories on UD and see if I continue to maintain. I feel like a million bucks and am really happy I am now able to eat more on maintenance. I am going to my parents place for Easter, and will do two fairly high UD's in a row.

What are everyone's plans for the long weekend?

Oh EmandM, great news about your success--sounds like you have got it figured out super fine! And also, thanks for the reminder of getting back to JUDDD right away after a little time off--like you say, it is a great WOE and yes, you are SOOOO RIGHT--we never have to feel like we fail with that way of eating/living!

Our Darling Daughters' families will be here for the weekend so seeing them is all we can think about these days There is nothing more I could ask for! There may be some off-plan eating but I take comfort in knowing I will very quickly and easily get back to "doing it by the blueprint."

Pam, have a wonderful time with your parents. I know they will adore seeing the girls on Easter!

[maizenbluebabe]

Originally Posted by Ilpirata

I have a party on friday night. Saturday day at my parents will be our easter as it is easier for my brother's family to do it on saturday. sunday chores and my sister will come over to hang out... good times and YAY! Saturday is totally my UP DAY.

Kisha, have a super time with your family! Isnt it great to know that you can easily solve the problem if you should have "too much fun" on your UpDay?

[Quandria]

I've been struggling with my plan for a while and just haven't felt much like posting. While I have been true to my down days, and they've all been wf for well over a month now (M-W & F), I haven't been eating very healthy on the up days; so I need to change that. It's weird, and I don't know if the water fasting on down days has anything to do with it, but I'm having a heck of a time making myself shop for and prepare meals on the up days. I just really don't care much about food anymore. I'm going to have to get back on track with this. Could also be partly because groceries are so expensive these days and it's cheaper and easier to pick up Subway or pizza for the family and eat with them than it is to stock healthy groceries and make my own separate meals (I don't eat meat, they do). I don't know.

Also I was doing really well on the couch-to-5k exercise program, then broke a toe a couple weeks ago and couldn't exercise until this Monday. I was thrilled to see that I could pick it up right where I left off without any struggle. But I did gain three (or so) pounds from not exercising. My weight this morning after an UD was 184, so I'm hoping to be back in my low range for my weekly weigh in tomorrow. I am trying VERY hard to not be as weight obsessed as I usually am. I am still a daily weigher, but I try to just glance at the number and file it away in my brain without obsessing about it and not really "count" it until weekly weigh in.

Well that's about it for the update. I'm still struggling with finding a plan for the weekends that works for me. Like others have posted, it isn't working for me to have 2 ud in a row, and my plan for eating just healthy foods on Sundays seems to have fallen by the wayside. It will probably all be easier once I do some grocery shopping!

[Ilpirata]

Well that's about it for the update. I'm still struggling with finding a plan for the weekends that works for me. Like others have posted, it isn't working for me to have 2 ud in a row, and my plan for eating just healthy foods on Sundays seems to have fallen by the wayside. It will probably all be easier once I do some grocery shopping!

Sorry you're struggling (and about the broken toe too - ouch!) but we're glad to have you BACK!

[icandoit]

Originally Posted by jgw

I wish you the best of luck!

aweeee, thank you!

[LadyWuzzy]

Hi ladies! I'm sorry I'm not faithful at checking in. I'm trying to be better but it's just hard right now. I'm not doing the greatest as far as eating wise but thankfully I'm not gaining any weight but I feel horrible. I did workout this past Saturday and Sunday and today did 30 day shred. I'm trying to avoid spending money for a gym membership so I'm utilizing what I have at home. The weather is finally starting to get nice here so I'm going to start running again as soon as I get new shoes. It looks like everyone is coming a long! I have a 4 day weekend coming up so my goal is to get in a lot of exercising.

I hope everyone has a great Easter and I'll keep an eye out!

[shunsweets]

Hi everybody. Just checking in. Working tons of extra hours this month and feeling a little sorry for myself.

I'm off Sat and it will be UD and our whole family will be here so that's a treat!

Still maintaining with VLC JUDDD. Still exercising daily more for stress relief and cardiovascular health than weight issues. Still fighting escalating BGL's - maybe stress and lack of sleep? Next month should be better. I have to stop overscheduling myself!

Happy Easter to all who celebrate and keep on Judding!

[maizenbluebabe]

Originally Posted by shunsweets

Hi everybody. Just checking in. Working tons of extra hours this month and feeling a little sorry for myself.

I'm off Sat and it will be UD and our whole family will be here so that's a treat!

Still maintaining with VLC JUDDD. Still exercising daily more for stress relief and cardiovascular health than weight issues. Still fighting escalating BGL's - maybe stress and lack of sleep? Next month should be better. I have to stop overscheduling myself!

Happy Easter to all who celebrate and keep on Judding!

SS, go and google "diabetes and stress" What you find will really make you stop and think seriously about your tight schedule. There's one from the ADA that is pretty convincing and as you have begun to suspect, "stress" (in your schedule) as well as the worry ober DH's health may very well be the cause of your recent BG fluctuations. I'm so glad you are getting a little time off to enjoy time with your family!

Originally Posted by LadyWuzzy

Hi ladies! I'm sorry I'm not faithful at checking in. I'm trying to be better but it's just hard right now. I'm not doing the greatest as far as eating wise but thankfully I'm not gaining any weight but I feel horrible. I did workout this past Saturday and Sunday and today did 30 day shred. I'm trying to avoid spending money for a gym membership so I'm utilizing what I have at home. The weather is finally starting to get nice here so I'm going to start running again as soon as I get new shoes. It looks like everyone is coming a long! I have a 4 day weekend coming up so my goal is to get in a lot of exercising.

I hope everyone has a great Easter and I'll keep an eye out!

Wuzzy, whenever you get here, we are always happy to see you. I hope you get feeling better soon. You sound a bit depressed, so the increasing sunshine and fresh air ought to help you cheer up and feel more motivtaed. it always does that for me. .

Originally Posted by Quandria

I've been struggling with my plan for a while and just haven't felt much like posting. While I have been true to my down days, and they've all been wf for well over a month now (M-W & F), I haven't been eating very healthy on the up days; so I need to change that. It's weird, and I don't know if the water fasting on down days has anything to do with it, but I'm having a heck of a time making myself shop for and prepare meals on the up days. I just really don't care much about food anymore. I'm going to have to get back on track with this. Could also be partly because groceries are so expensive these days and it's cheaper and easier to pick up Subway or pizza for the family and eat with them than it is to stock healthy groceries and make my own separate meals (I don't eat meat, they do). I don't know.

so sorry you are having such a bad time, Quandria, but we are glad to see you back again and in touch. Is it possible that three WF's per week is actually slowing your metabolism down? I wonder if it would help to vary those a bit. And yes, the price of food is ridiculous these days, and of course, it's always easier to eat what your family does, so it's easy to understand your dilemma. And you may be suffereing from late winter blahs--which I think hits a lot of us this time of year. Dont give up on yourself! Look at how far you have come and take pride in your accomplishments and have faith in yourself that you will soon get this problem solved.

Originally Posted by Quandria

Also I was doing really well on the couch-to-5k exercise program, then broke a toe a couple weeks ago and couldn't exercise until this Monday. I was thrilled to see that I could pick it up right where I left off without any struggle. But I did gain three (or so) pounds from not exercising. My weight this morning after an UD was 184, so I'm hoping to be back in my low range for my weekly weigh in tomorrow. I am trying VERY hard to not be as weight obsessed as I usually am. I am still a daily weigher, but I try to just glance at the number and file it away in my brain without obsessing about it and not really "count" it until weekly weigh in.

A broken toe? Oh, good grief, no wonder you are out of sorts! Just try not to panic about your weight--you lost it before and you can lose it again--and maybe it isnt a bad idea to relax and, as you say, not "obsess"

Originally Posted by Quandria

Well that's about it for the update. I'm still struggling with finding a plan for the weekends that works for me. Like others have posted, it isn't working for me to have 2 ud in a row, and my plan for eating just healthy foods on Sundays seems to have fallen by the wayside. It will probably all be easier once I do some grocery shopping!

Maybe it would help to try to stop in your mind and identify some healthy food you really enjoy and reward yourself with it and use it on weekends to fit into a plan that helps and makes you feel better mentally about what you are eating. Quandria, you are so bright and thoughtful, I just know that somehow once you stop and analyze this, you will find an answer that works for YOU!

Originally Posted by sassymanal

I just wanted to tell you guys that i was switching over to south beach diet. I will continue to read though .

Sassy, I'm sorry JUDDD did not work for you and we will miss you here, but if South Beach is the answer to what you need to do, GO FOR IT! Feel free to come back and say howdy anytime you want! You will always be welcome!

[maizenbluebabe]

OK, that's it for now gang! Everyone arrives tomorrow and I still have rooms to vacuum and dust and beds to make up so I wont be hanging out here or in the bars and poolrooms of our town nearly as much during the next 10 days.

Be good, be of good cheer, and enjoy your plans whatever they are BECAUSE THEY WILL LEAD US TO BETTER HEALTH!

[Redeemed]

I posted this on the other JUDD thread also. I feel Dr. Johnson was not given enough time. I mentioned Dr. Atkins was also the recipient of "rock throwing" throughout the years, but stood his ground and helped countless thousands of people.

YouTube - The Alternate Day Diet

[jgw]

Originally Posted by Redeemed

I posted this on the other JUDD thread also. I feel Dr. Johnson was not given enough time. I mentioned Dr. Atkins was also the recipient of "rock throwing" throughout the years, but stood his ground and helped countless thousands of people.

They were ready to jump all over his case. I wish someone else could interview him.

Redeemed I was watching Oprah a couple of weeks ago and Dr. Oz was talking about calorie restriction which helps you live longer. Did any one see that show?

[snaggle]

I just posted my opinion of the interview on the JUDDD thread, but basically, I think he came off pretty well, but could have created a way better impression if he had brought along a better example of a success story.
That nutritionist lady annoyed me so much. I totally disagree with her notion that you could not do this as a lifestyle. I actually think having a couple days a week where you don't even have to think about food, really works when you have a hectic, busy life.
My tweaked plan only has two downdays and we shall see how it works. For a slow loser like me who can only lose on 1100/1200 cals a day, having two 400 cal days a week, lets me have two indulgent days a week and THAT is what I call a lifestyle I can live with. It is the constant every day watching of cals, etc. that I find way more difficult. I also hope that by adding low carb to the equation makes it even more effective.

[Redeemed]

Well, I think Dr. Johnson should have brought someone with him who was a little more nutritionally savvy. He had some very good points, but his personality was not as demonstrative as two on the other side; and his statements didn't seem to have as much impact because the other side was more aggressive. I felt the other side was ready and waiting for the "smack down". It was obvious to me that they hadn't researched both sides of the issue.