JUDDDD/Alternate Day Diet MARCH

[kind]

Hi.
I lost another 1/2 lb.since I did 3 day fruit fast.{2lbs lost doing ff.]
So getting back to juddd{ by the book] today is ud. So far 515 cals.{ ud are *1200-1400.
Now to up exercise and do 50 ab crushes{To start.
Also going to do a *7 day cleanse.[Friday13}
My short goal is to get this 4lbs gone in couple weeks.{ I think I can.
kind

[Redeemed]

Originally Posted by SpaceCowgirl

Hi JUDDers! I haven't been on in a while so I just wanted to say hi.

I've officially been doing JUDD for 1 month and I've lost 7 pounds. Before that, I had been at the same weight for about 4 months - so needless to say, I'm very happy with my JUDD results so far!

Way to go!!

[icandoit]

I feel like making today a UD! I made a mistake and did a hour workout and now i'm tired. I had 5 chicken drumsticks for my DD today, so 500 cals. I now know not to workout on a DD or just do something light.

[kerbear879]

Originally Posted by sassymanal

I feel like making today a UD! I made a mistake and did a hour workout and now i'm tired. I had 5 chicken drumsticks for my DD today, so 500 cals. I now know not to workout on a DD or just do something light.

Yeah it takes some adjusting to get the down days just right. I find that I need to eat a ton of vegetables because it makes me feel like I get to eat more. Exercising heavy on a DD would probably be too difficult for me. I still try to get my 10,000 steps in though and that's been fine so far. Do you have any really low cal foods at home you can have? Even if you ended at 600 calories that would probably still be okay for a DD.

[Clannad]

I came across your thread and I think I may want to try this. I was planning on doing some fasts for the remainder of Lent, but I think this may work better for me. I did a protein shake fast on monday (originally for my Lent fasting), and I had a normal dinner. It was very hard to do! So tues. was offically an up day and wed. was my first down day. I was able to do 438 calories, which is just amazing to me. I wasn't planning on going that low because I honestly didn't think I'd be able to. Today is an UD and I'm probably not going to break out of the 1500's, but that is around what I would've normally had for calories, so I guess that's good.

So tomorrow is a DD and even though I did well wed. I'm a little nervous. I do have my meals planned out pretty much, so I'm not worried about not having enough to eat. Maybe I'm feeling this way because this is so new to me. I think I also equate less food, or any type of fasting, with starving. I think it all a mind game type of thing. But from what I've read, this is supposed to get easier, right?

[Redeemed]

Originally Posted by Clannad

I came across your thread and I think I may want to try this. I was planning on doing some fasts for the remainder of Lent, but I think this may work better for me. I did a protein shake fast on monday (originally for my Lent fasting), and I had a normal dinner. It was very hard to do! So tues. was offically an up day and wed. was my first down day. I was able to do 438 calories, which is just amazing to me. I wasn't planning on going that low because I honestly didn't think I'd be able to. Today is an UD and I'm probably not going to break out of the 1500's, but that is around what I would've normally had for calories, so I guess that's good.

So tomorrow is a DD and even though I did well wed. I'm a little nervous. I do have my meals planned out pretty much, so I'm not worried about not having enough to eat. Maybe I'm feeling this way because this is so new to me. I think I also equate less food, or any type of fasting, with starving. I think it all a mind game type of thing. But from what I've read, this is supposed to get easier, right?

It got easier for me, but it is still very challenging to do a DD. I keep my favorite foods in the fridge so I know they'll be there when I start my UD. That's my security. We're all different. Some people like their DD's better because they feel more in control. Great success to you.

[mammapo]

Originally Posted by kind

Hi.
I lost another 1/2 lb.since I did 3 day fruit fast.{2lbs lost doing ff.]
So getting back to juddd{ by the book] today is ud. So far 515 cals.{ ud are *1200-1400.
Now to up exercise and do 50 ab crushes{To start.
Also going to do a *7 day cleanse.[Friday13}
My short goal is to get this 4lbs gone in couple weeks.{ I think I can.
kind

Kind, I don't want to be a party pooper....

BUUUUUUT

a 3 day fruit fast, followed by 2 days of JUDDD, followed by a 7 day cleanse?

You're not doing your metabolism any favors. In fact, you're setting yourself up to binge when it's all said and done and to gain all the weight PLUS after it's all over.

Is there any reason you don't want to take it 'by the book' and let the weight come off at its own pace?

I'm saying this with love and concern - I want to see you succeed in the long run, and all these little spurts of trying several different types of cleanses has me concerned that you're not going to win your emotional or mental battle (physical battle) with food, here.

Not that there's anything wrong with making the intentional decision to be a diet cycler, and to switch up your methods from week to week... but that is really a Tweaker thing and not classic JUDDD - and I'm sure you'll hear about it from more than just me if you only actually do JUDDD 2 out of 16 days.

[retroworx]

Originally Posted by shunsweets

Hey Retro and Kerri [COLOR="Red"]We lived in Poughkeepsie for 4 years[/COLOR] when my children were young. Beautiful there on the Hudson River. My nephew went to Marist for college so we really got to know the area. What a small world.

SS:

No way!!

[Leo41]

Clannad-

I felt exactly the same after my first DD--amazed that I was able to consume only 400 cal.! This WOE has given me a great sense of control of my eating--for perhaps the first time in my life.

Yes, the DDs get easier--but sometimes not. Once I got used to what I could have (experimented a little), the DDs became a "relief" in a way because I know exactly what to expect, etc. I actually struggle more on my UDs because I CAN eat anything and yet I need to keep my calories in control, so there's more temptation for me on UDs--if that makes any sense.

I think the sense of accomplishment I get on DDs is what keeps me inspired to continue with JUDDD--that and the weight loss. Some of us came to this (me, for example) because we're so resistent to loss and need to drastically reduce calories. I could not maintain 1000 cal a day without the temptation to binge, but I can easily average 800-900 on JUDDD because it's NOT every day.

I hope you find this WOE helpful for you, too!

[Leo41]

I just have to throw in my 2 cents about "cleanses."

Almost every doctor I know says that our bodies are self cleansing, and we don't need any of these products.

However, I also know that they will give a false sense of weight loss. If you've ever had a colonoscopy and weigh yourself the morning of the procedure (after you've done the cleaning out process), you'll notice a dramatic weight loss. At my last colonoscopy, it was 8 pounds--with just a full day of fasting and laxatives.

But one meal after the procedure, those 8 pounds had returned. It's just an unnatural reduction in body water, and the body regulates itself as soon as you begin consuming anything--even just water.

That's how these 'cleanses' work, too. The person will get a dramatic weight "loss" that will just as quickly disappear.

In addition, if not done with medical supervision, such a "cleansing" could easily upset the body's electrolyte balance and cause some real problems.

Why do this for pseudo weight loss?

[kerbear879]

Originally Posted by Leo41

I just have to throw in my 2 cents about "cleanses."

Almost every doctor I know says that our bodies are self cleansing, and we don't need any of these products.

However, I also know that they will give a false sense of weight loss. If you've ever had a colonoscopy and weigh yourself the morning of the procedure (after you've done the cleaning out process), you'll notice a dramatic weight loss. At my last colonoscopy, it was 8 pounds--with just a full day of fasting and laxatives.

But one meal after the procedure, those 8 pounds had returned. It's just an unnatural reduction in body water, and the body regulates itself as soon as you begin consuming anything--even just water.

That's how these 'cleanses' work, too. The person will get a dramatic weight "loss" that will just as quickly disappear.

In addition, if not done with medical supervision, such a "cleansing" could easily upset the body's electrolyte balance and cause some real problems.

Why do this for pseudo weight loss?

I'd have to agree..I had to do one of these before my wls surgery..ugh it was horrible..but I was down 8 pounds the next morning..then I had surgery, got pumped full of all that IV fluid..came home 9 days later (yeah had a complication so was there a looooonnnnggg time)..and I was the exact same weight as before I did the cleanse. So I agree your body will just regulate itself out. I think with the cleansing though..some people may just feel better. That didn't happen with me but not to say it won't happen to someone else.

[kerbear879]

Originally Posted by shunsweets

Hey Retro and Kerri We lived in Poughkeepsie for 4 years when my children were young. Beautiful there on the Hudson River. My nephew went to Marist for college so we really got to know the area. What a small world.

I'm still maintaining well with JUDDD plus low carb. Hope all the JUDDDer's are doing well.

Definitely a small world...my boyfriend's family still lives there which is why we are going out there in June. I had never been there before and so different to me because I grew up in california in the desert where everything is brown (and denver isn't much different). All I could think when I saw poughkeepsie was wow it's so green..soo many trees!

But I will never ever go there again in the middle of July. Holy crap it was so hot and humid..we went to nyc and it was 94 and unbearably humid..we walked all over the city and then my legs broke out in this horrible rash from what my doctors called excessive walking in excessive heat..ugh never again! Hopefully the first week in June won't be nearly as bad.

[fatnutritionist]

Originally Posted by Leo41

I just have to throw in my 2 cents about "cleanses."

Almost every doctor I know says that our bodies are self cleansing, and we don't need any of these products.

However, I also know that they will give a false sense of weight loss. If you've ever had a colonoscopy and weigh yourself the morning of the procedure (after you've done the cleaning out process), you'll notice a dramatic weight loss. At my last colonoscopy, it was 8 pounds--with just a full day of fasting and laxatives.

But one meal after the procedure, those 8 pounds had returned. It's just an unnatural reduction in body water, and the body regulates itself as soon as you begin consuming anything--even just water.

That's how these 'cleanses' work, too. The person will get a dramatic weight "loss" that will just as quickly disappear.

In addition, if not done with medical supervision, such a "cleansing" could easily upset the body's electrolyte balance and cause some real problems.

Why do this for pseudo weight loss?

I have to disagree. I work for the leading Digestive Care and Cleansing company and not all cleanses flush water out of your system. Weight loss from cleanses is usually just waste matter (build up fecal matter) but cleansing the liver, lungs, blood, lympahtic system has many other benefits. Most companies who sell good quality products don't really play up the weight loss because it truly is short lived. These harsh bowel cleanses or diuretics are bad news but a good whole body or liver cleanse is very important for good health.

As far as the body being self cleansing...it is designed that way but look at all of the crap we have now that we didn't have hundreds and thousands of years ago. Doctors also think it is healthy to only poop once a week!

[kerbear879]

Originally Posted by fatnutritionist

I have to disagree. I work for the leading Digestive Care and Cleansing company and not all cleanses flush water out of your system. Weight loss from cleanses is usually just waste matter (build up fecal matter) but cleansing the liver, lungs, blood, lympahtic system has many other benefits. Most companies who sell good quality products don't really play up the weight loss because it truly is short lived. These harsh bowel cleanses or diuretics are bad news but a good whole body or liver cleanse is very important for good health.

As far as the body being self cleansing...it is designed that way but look at all of the crap we have now that we didn't have hundreds and thousands of years ago. Doctors also think it is healthy to only poop once a week!

This makes sense. I think you are right that it has other health benefits but I don't think it's a true sense of weight loss as it is mostly waste or water which if the company isn't playing up the weight loss then the cleanse is in the purest sense just a cleanse and not a way of losing weight. Unfortunately, I don't think a lot of people take it for the reason it is probably intended. I just have bad memories of taking them!

[kind]

hi.
Im not doing this for weight loss. For I know if that was the case it would all come back.
Im looking into cleanse. to clean outand detox all the bad stuff I put in.And to restart with Juddd{By the book.
The one Im looking into trying is .and cleanses the liver and kidney.
Im reading more on thisbefore I do it{If I do.

But Im Not using this as a weight loss tool..
What ever I lose in waste matter. the body I would think would even its self out.
U might gain couple lbs back but as long as u then go back to juddd and watch your dd and uds I think it all comes out.Just insides will have a cleaner and work better.{ I think.

[kerbear879]

That's a good philosphy kind! And in that case I hope it works well for you! I wanted to say congrats on what you have lost so far. You've done so great!

[kind]

Thank you Kerri.
Kind.

[mammapo]

hi, Kind!

I'm not at all in opposition to ff or vf! I've done them myself in the past, with great success. I was just concerned about the weight loss aspect - you had followed up your statement with a statement about wanting to lose 4 pounds, and I must have mushed them all together to mean that you were doing the cleanses to lose weight.

That's the only thing I was taking issue with - the long term viability of the weight loss.

For the record - for anyone reading: as someone with a degree in Food Science and Nutrition, here's my personal (not medical)opinion:

The primary benefits of ff or vf are the extra nutrients you take in, more than anything a person is 'expelling'. Most americans don't get even 3 servings of f or v a day. ff or vf tend to serve up 10-15 servings a day. While some of those nutrients flush right out, once the body sucks up what it needs, there are some that can store. And the antioxidant benefits are great. I DO recommend them but NOT for weight loss.

What we refer to as 'cleanses' are really 'refeedings' or 'renourishings' if done properly.

FWIW, simple weight loss is actually one of the best 'flushes' - our fat holds toxins/hormones/etc, and we've got to release these at a relatively small pace or risk our kidneys and liver in the process. Real, sustained weight loss, coupled with a healthy, functioning liver and kidneys is going to end up truly detoxing a person more than a single week of cleansing ever will.

These toxins or hormones will be excreted through the urine, mostly, and this is why hydration is really important during weight loss. This is how our body functions!

Waste matter, which is what is removed during commercial cleanses involving bentonite clay or psyllium fiber, contains gross stuff - it IS waste, after all - but this is not how we excrete 'poisons' or hormones physically. The water that is drawn into the colon does NOT contain the purified (filtered) 'toxins' because that our bodies run that stuff through the bladder to exit...

However these cleanses can be beneficial - once again if done properly only!!! - because most Americans are woefully short of the fiber they need to keep things moving.

If you're doing a bowel cleanse, kind, remember to hydrate and replace electrolytes!

And when you're done, you can maintain the same results by keeping your daily insoluble fiber around 10-15g and your daily soluble fiber around 10-15 g for a total of 20-30 g per day max.

One more note: too many cleanses in a row act like laxative abuse and CAN lead to 'lazy colon' - the inability of the body to cleanse itself. You don't want this, because then you are dealing with serious medical conditions. I personally wouldn't recommend more than 4 severe, commercial style colon cleanses a year MAX and really don't recommend more than 2. Just my 2p

naomi

[icandoit]

I didn't go over my calories yesterday. I think i was dehydrated becasue i drank LOTS of water and i felt better.

Yesterday's dd

Grams Calories %-Cals
Calories 525
Fat 27.1 244 47 %
Saturated 7.4 67 13 %
Polyunsaturated 6.1 55 10 %
Monounsaturated 10.3 93 18 %
Carbohydrate 0.0 0 0 %
Dietary Fiber 0.0
Protein 65.7 280 53 %
Alcohol 0.0 0 0 %



I started at 176.5 and i'm now 173. That's 1 pound a day loss. wohoooo. no more yo-yo diet for me. i'm going to stick with this woe! for the past three months before starting this diet i would go from 165-180!! when i get past 165 on this woe, i'll be real happy!

[kerbear879]

YAY sassy! Getting throught those first couple DD's is the hardest and then when you start seeing results it really makes you want to stick to it. Congrats for sticking to it yesterday and even more congrats for the loss!

[Leo41]

Sassy-

Several of us have had the same experience before JUDDD--i.e., yo-yo-ing up and down the same 5 or 10 pounds without any consistent loss. JUDDD has been the answer for me--and several others. We are finally losing consistently and safely. It's truly amazing how this works.

[icandoit]

Thanks!!

Has anyone tried Walden Farms peanut butter or mayo? I have the thousand island dressing and it tastes pretty good. I'm eating peanut butter sandwichs on my UD and would love to save calories! I will have to check my Kroger store or request it.

[Redeemed]

I made a home made onion and garlic soup with one large onion and 2 tsp. crushed garlic. Then I pureed a can of green beans and a fresh bunch of asparagus; and added the puree to the onion soup. I seasoned with salt, pepper and crushed red bell pepper seasoning. I sipped the soup out of a cup - and it was very very good. It was real heavy and filling. It looks like split pea soup. I'm not sure of the calories, but must be around 50 or so for a cup. Let me know if you think this calorie count is about right. It made about about 8 servings. Next time I make I'll try to get a more accurate count.

[kind]

Im NOt doing a cleanse after all.
Staying with Juddd.

[Leo41]

Sassy!

I love a lot of Walden Farms things, and I, too, thought it would be great to save calories on their PB. DON'T BOTHER. I pride myself on being able to eat anything, but I had to throw that away--it was that awful!

That's also true of that powdered PB that Netrition sells--simply dreadful.

I'd rather use up the calories and stick to my totally natural PB with no additives (just peanuts). I haven't bought it lately because I have absolutely no control with it, but I'm hoping to be able to manage it again soon. I just love PB.

[Leo41]

Redeemed-

Your soup sounds delicious. I love soup but don't eat the canned stuff because of the sodium (even the low sodium ones have too much!). I made a similar type of soup with pureed broccoli, parsley, onion, celery and garlic, but I haven't been making it because I don't know the calorie count (I wanted it for DDs). But your estimate of 50 seems about right to me, so perhaps I should just go ahead and make mine.

[fatnutritionist]

Week 2 update!

Since saturday is my weigh in day I have a very exciting update. I am down another 2.5 pounds which means 11 pounds in 2 weeks! I am so happy with this progress. A few other things I have noticed: my candida symptoms seem to be lessening even though I am eating a bit of sugar on up days (This is good!) and on the bad side, I seem to be really badly broken out all over my back, chest and face. I am supposed to start my period next week so perhaps it is just really bad pms?
Regardless, I will take the loss and run! Thanks for all the support guys

[Redeemed]

Originally Posted by fatnutritionist

Week 2 update!

Since saturday is my weigh in day I have a very exciting update. I am down another 2.5 pounds which means 11 pounds in 2 weeks! I am so happy with this progress. A few other things I have noticed: my candida symptoms seem to be lessening even though I am eating a bit of sugar on up days (This is good!) and on the bad side, I seem to be really badly broken out all over my back, chest and face. I am supposed to start my period next week so perhaps it is just really bad pms?
Regardless, I will take the loss and run! Thanks for all the support guys

Congratulations!!

[Clannad]

fatnutritionist - WTG! Congrats!!

Leo - Thanks for sharing your experience. So far I am seeing results and it is making me want to continue with it. The scale hasn't moved for me since last fall. I've been bouncing around 4 or 5 pounds over the last months. I realized though that I needed to reduce calories as well as doing low carb.

Redeemed - Thanks, good to know it gets a little easier, at least.



Yesterday's DD was at 556 calories. It was a little more difficult for me than wednesday's DD. I got very hungry between lunch and dinner. I did a workout however, so that may be why. So since tuesday, I've lost 2 lbs. and I can actually see the difference in my body. So I am pretty happy about that! The next couple of days will be UDs. And monday is supposed to be a protein shake fast. I don't know if I can do it though, so that may change.

[kind]

Hi. Been doin great. Today isdd so eighter a juice fast or soup.No more then 200-360.

Making a picher of tea.
maybe a walk on tredmil. I feel good.
Im glad Im Not doing the cleanse. Just staying with Juddd.One of the best programs to do.
Kind