JUDD/JohnsonAlternateDayDiet Feb 2009

[Ilpirata]

Plenty of water, all day long, too!

I have been drinking at least 1.5 Liters of water on DD... this is huge for me because my prior water consumption has always been scant at best! I feel like it helps make the DD a real cleanse... and perhaps fills me tummy a bit.

[SpaceCowgirl]

I think I want to join you guys in this WOE.

I have been at this weight (give or take a pound or two) for several months now and I'm ready to get the scale moving down again.

[Ilpirata]

I think I want to join you guys in this WOE.

I have been at this weight (give or take a pound or two) for several months now and I'm ready to get the scale moving down again.

Awesome Cowgirl! I personally LOVE it. I'm hoping it will work for me all the way to goal and beyond. When do you plan your first DD?

[stargirl21]

*lurking*

This is really interesting! I believe very strongly in the health benefits of fasting and have done similar phases like this through my life, I never knew it had a name! It must definitely feel doable when you know you can eat again the next day

Does anyone exercise on their down days? I imagine I could first thing in the morning when I wake up from an up day but other than that, I think I'd find it very difficult.

[Zer]

What a relief, that the UD figure is a limit and not a target! Whew! ... Plenty of water, all day long, too! Now, what does ****** show me for a DD menu, starting off with a Hot Slosh (WheyPP+Tbs/espresso+Tbs/cacao) for a hefty 184calories?

Whoops, sardines in olive oil are too rich for a 560cal DD at 460cals for fishies in 2Tbs olive oil; that's an UD treat!

******'s 2/10/09 reality check for a 560calorie DD menu
Food Name ... Amount ... Unit ... Cals ... Fat(g) ... Carbs(g) ... Prot(g)

Scoop/WPP+1Tbs/espresso+1Tbs/cacao... 184 ... 2.9 ... 16.4... 22.5
...ALG's vanilla WPP (30g/scoop) ... 119 ... 1.5 ... 6.5 ... 20.0
...Cacao, raw (Tbs) ..................60 ... 1.3 ... 9.0 ... 2.5
...Espresso (1 Tbs crystals) ..........5 ... 0.1 ... 0.9 ... 0.0
Total ............................184 ... 2.9 ... 16.4 ...22.5

Adding 4 HB eggs @ 74cals each... 310 ... 21.2 ... 2.2 ... 25.2

TOTALS up close to my DD:560cals ... 494cals ... 24.1 ... 18.6 ... 47.7
==================================

Not bad. I can snack all day on HB eggs!

[SpaceCowgirl]

Originally Posted by Ilpirata

Awesome Cowgirl! I personally LOVE it. I'm hoping it will work for me all the way to goal and beyond. When do you plan your first DD?

I think I'll start tomorrow (Wednesday).

I was wondering what people usually eat on the DD? I've sort of been eating this way for a while, but it was more like a fat fast every other day (so I was eating cream cheese and macadamia nuts every other day). I guess my question really is: does it matter what you eat on the down days?

[Leo41]

Zer-

While a lot of people only eat once a day on DDs, I need to eat at least 3 times--and that works for me. So if you snack throughout the day on HB eggs and that works for you, don't worry about it. In fact, on one of his blogs Dr. Eades expressed some reservations about intermittant fasting (which he had praised) because some studies showed that it played havoc with glucose levels which could be a problem for many people, not just diabetics. I find that knowing I can eat at regular intervals helps get me through DDs more easily. If I think I can't eat, I panic.

[Leo41]

SpaceCowgirl--

No, it doesn't matter what you eat on DDs, according to Dr. J. He advocates shakes at the beginning because he argues that most people underestimate their calories, and it's important to keep the calorie count right on DDs. But many dieters are good at calorie counting, so that shouldn't be a problem if you're confident of your calorie count.

I like to eat things (fat/protein) that keep my appetite controlled, but I've been using shakes for part of the day because I try to keep my protein steady to avoid muscle wasting. A high-protein shake is the only way I know to get a lot of protein with minimum calories.

[kellycarbaddict]

Originally Posted by SpaceCowgirl

I think I'll start tomorrow (Wednesday).

I was wondering what people usually eat on the DD? I've sort of been eating this way for a while, but it was more like a fat fast every other day (so I was eating cream cheese and macadamia nuts every other day). I guess my question really is: does it matter what you eat on the down days?

Good luck today.... I'm on a DD today also. I try to go as long as possible with just water. I have found by about 1:30 I'm hungry hungry. My DD goal is just below 500, so I aim for 500. I have been "snacking" on a small can of V8 juice (30cal), 1 wasacrispbread (20cal), 1 light laughing cow wedge (35cal), 1/2 tablespoon sugarfree jam (5cal). That helps to pass the afternoon. I also made a big pot of cabbage soup that someone mentioned a few weeks ago (cabbage, cauliflower, carrots, celery, onion, zucchini, green beans, can of tomatoes, chicken broth). I plugged in all the ingredients into dailyplate and figured out that a 2 cup serving was 96 calories. I add 4oz of grilled chicken (130 cal), fresh cilantro and spinach (30cal) and that is dinner. That puts me at 341 for the day and leaves me with 159 calories. On Wed nights, dinner is really late (9:30-10pm), so I have an atkins strawberry shake around 6ish. On Mon/Fri, dinner is about 7, so I save the atkins shake for a late "snack". I put them in the freezer for about an hour until they are 'slushy'.

I also have chicken bullion that I've used, it's amazing how filling and long it takes to 'eat' 2 cups of hot broth at 30 cal.

Hope you have a great day.

[soontobesexy'ntx]

spacecowgirl
look back at my DD menu
if I go too long between eating I get the "shakes" lowbloodsugar
so I "nibble" all day long on low calorie "snacks"

[Ilpirata]

Does anyone exercise on their down days? I imagine I could first thing in the morning when I wake up from an up day but other than that, I think I'd find it very difficult.

(i don't exercise)
But I know that other JUDDDers do on both DD and UD.

[Ilpirata]

Looks like alot of us are on DD today including me.

I usually just eat one meal on DD. Today it will probably be 4 TJs turkey meatballs (200 cals) and 2 scrambled eggs.

Other days I do raw vegetables with hummus and laughing cow light cheese

[Leo41]

I know that some people exercise on both DD and UD, but I only exercise (so far) on UDs. One reason I do Tues, Thurs, Sat as UDs is that has been my schedule for going to the pool (I swim laps and do other exercises in water).

I doubt that I could do this workout on DDs simply because I'm always famished afterwards, and while a 200 cal. "snack" will work on UDs, it would be half of my day's food on DDs!

[kind]

Today is my first dd. {Again I restarted.{Im staying this time.
Got the book last night and Im reading which helps.Has good recipes in there for up days and dd.
Im going to try to do a true dd with fasting.See how I do. If not I have whey protein shakes that are low.and I have v8 juice or broth. BUT Like I said going for it today.
I must say when I do get pass a fast day {1} I feel good.Up days Im going to try around 1200 or as body needs.
I also exercise 5 days aweek.
Going to up water intake and plain tea. and diet pop.
Hope today does well.
From what I read in book or took it .that he saids.Not to eat just to reach calorie intake. Eat how much till you feel .full.??/ Is that right?
Kind

[kellycarbaddict]

Originally Posted by Ilpirata

raw vegetables with hummus

Kisha... do you make your own hummus?

[kellycarbaddict]

Originally Posted by kind

Today is my first dd. {Again I restarted.{Im staying this time.
Got the book last night and Im reading which helps.Has good recipes in there for up days and dd.
Im going to try to do a true dd with fasting.See how I do. If not I have whey protein shakes that are low.and I have v8 juice or broth. BUT Like I said going for it today.
I must say when I do get pass a fast day {1} I feel good.Up days Im going to try around 1200 or as body needs.
I also exercise 5 days aweek.
Going to up water intake and plain tea. and diet pop.
Hope today does well.
From what I read in book or took it .that he saids.Not to eat just to reach calorie intake. Eat how much till you feel .full.??/ Is that right?
Kind

GOOD LUCK TODAY! You can do it. Just remember that you CAN have it tomorrow.

[Ilpirata]

Im going to try to do a true dd with fasting.

Just remember that eating on DD or drinking liquid IS a true DD.

Please don't be afraid to take in all of your DD calories.

And also take a peek at your UD calories too. They seem low to me.

You CAN DO THIS!

[Ilpirata]

Kisha... do you make your own hummus?

o heck no. I'm like the LAZIEST cook. I buy it at Trader Joe's. My favorite is the spicy. There is also a basil tomato flavor that is VERY LOW CAL.

[Ilpirata]

So last night I got a venti latte at starbucks made with HWC. Today I discover this has TEN OUNCES OF HWC!!! OMG thats like 1000 calories so my yesterdays total was like 3000 calories! oops. won't make THAT mistake again. Back to Americanos with a SPLASH of HWC for me.

darn it. Even with a 300 cal DD today my average will be 1600 for the two days!

[Leo41]

Kisha-

I feel your pain! That's why I hate to eat out--although I love eating out. I'm never sure of the calories because although the menu might say "chicken breast" or "salmon fillet," you're never sure what goes into the dish. Even when you ASK, you can't be sure that you're getting the correct answer--at least that's been my experience.

I have two events this week involving dinner in restaurants (starting tonight), so I might be too caloric this week myself--despite trying to be careful.

[Ilpirata]

I have two events this week involving dinner in restaurants (starting tonight), so I might be too caloric this week myself--despite trying to be careful.

All we can do is do our best. I'm upset about the Starbucks because that was NOT MY BEST. I knew there was alot of calories in that thing and chose it anyways! Well, I know from experience that the only way to get over a slip up like that is to leave it in the past and move forward. And today is a DD so I've got the perfect chance to do so!

[SpaceCowgirl]

Originally Posted by kellycarbaddict

Good luck today.... I'm on a DD today also. I try to go as long as possible with just water. I have found by about 1:30 I'm hungry hungry. My DD goal is just below 500, so I aim for 500. I have been "snacking" on a small can of V8 juice (30cal), 1 wasacrispbread (20cal), 1 light laughing cow wedge (35cal), 1/2 tablespoon sugarfree jam (5cal). That helps to pass the afternoon. I also made a big pot of cabbage soup that someone mentioned a few weeks ago (cabbage, cauliflower, carrots, celery, onion, zucchini, green beans, can of tomatoes, chicken broth). I plugged in all the ingredients into dailyplate and figured out that a 2 cup serving was 96 calories. I add 4oz of grilled chicken (130 cal), fresh cilantro and spinach (30cal) and that is dinner. That puts me at 341 for the day and leaves me with 159 calories. On Wed nights, dinner is really late (9:30-10pm), so I have an atkins strawberry shake around 6ish. On Mon/Fri, dinner is about 7, so I save the atkins shake for a late "snack". I put them in the freezer for about an hour until they are 'slushy'.

I also have chicken bullion that I've used, it's amazing how filling and long it takes to 'eat' 2 cups of hot broth at 30 cal.

Hope you have a great day.

Thanks for the info! In my whole life, I have rarely felt hungry before dinner so I think I'll like this WOE. I always felt like I was forcing myself to eat other meals.

Anyway, I'm excited for my first DD. Good luck to everyone else today!

[dasiey]

today is dd for me also. good luck to us all.

[SpaceCowgirl]

Hi everyone! I was just wondering why our bodies don't go into the infamous 'starvation mode' on the DDs? I tried finding the answer on Dr. Johnson's website but didn't find anything.

[Ilpirata]

It is because we are only eating low calories for one twenty-four hour period. Our bodies take longer than that to reset our metabolisms. Yep, we're OUTSMARTING THEM!

[SpaceCowgirl]

Originally Posted by Ilpirata

It is because we are only eating low calories for one twenty-four hour period. Our bodies take longer than that to reset our metabolisms. Yep, we're OUTSMARTING THEM!

Good to know. Does that mean it would be bad if I did 2 DD's in a row?

[Zer]

Originally Posted by Ilpirata

It is because we are only eating low calories for one twenty-four hour period. Our bodies take longer than that to reset our metabolisms. Yep, we're OUTSMARTING THEM!

So the tell-all book some of us might write someday can be titled "How I Snuck Up on My Metabolism" or some such thing? Just shifting to a 48hr rhythm, an alternate day schedule of supplying calories, can trigger such losses as we are seeing, with a notable breaking of set points that have defied other strategies. Yay!

[kind]

hi. Looks like I made my firstdd.and {I did a true fast. }Nothing but lots of water diet pop and tea{Plain.
I feel real good and I even went to curves.But I must say Im looking forward to soup 2 rice cakes. Then lots of salads and a whey shake with berries. and so on. what ever my body needs that is healthy.
I had Ketone {Test strips I got few weeks ago. I just wanted to see if I was burning fat. I have a *trace.on strips. I think that is good.?
Been reading the book and I must say learning .
Hope to report good tomorrow also with a good up day.
Looking forward to a good whole week and see what I have done in my first week {Next Wed... Took me couple times to get this going .I feel Im going to make it.
Kind

[fatnutritionist]

This is very cool, I wonder if it would work if you don't follow strict low carb? Kisha, congrats on getting into the 100's I can't wait for that day!!

[Zer]

I've been re-thinking my notion of having egg noodles as part of my UD menu. I'm thinking it is wiser to stick to LC foods, to low-glycemic vegies and fruit, as I increase calories for an UD. Allowing total carb fest will damage what ketosis I have going on, which is bound to slow down weight loss. So I'm looking at a list of vegies and fruits that I might allow on the UD - and will let egg noodles be a food that I'll lust for in my heart (just love Jimmy Carter's phrasing!) while I do what I can to reduce flesh by avoiding flour/pasta for a little longer. From what I hear, some of our favorite starchy carby food is not All That when we do allow ourself a little latitude. What a waste, to find out that a carby craving is not what we remember, not the lift or the escape that it once was for us!