JUDD/JohnsonAlternateDayDiet Feb 2009 - Page 11

soontobesexy'ntx · 02-18-2009, 06:10 AM

It must be PMs/TOM failure
I start a DD and do well all day at work
THEN I get home and cant resist whatever DH has fixed for supper
Monday was BBQ
Tues Nachos
so between Sat, Sun, Mon, Tues I've had 4 UD in a row
today (was supposed to be my UD) I've brought to work
1 special K bar and a can of ravioli (540 cals in the can)
I guess I could have a MD and have my "diet soup" for supper
and start my DD/UD rotation when I'm finished with TOM ??

retroworx · 02-18-2009, 07:45 AM

Anyone higher weight after their DDs, not UDs??

Ilpirata · 02-18-2009, 09:14 AM

Hey Retro... yeah my weight was up this morning. Morning after a good succesful DD:

Calories 500
Fat 24.5 219 44 %
Carbohydrate 36.0 140 28 %
Dietary Fiber 5.6
Protein 35.5 140 28 %
Alcohol 0.0 0 0 %

I suspect its because I didn't drink nearly the amount of water I usually do on DD... plus I ate some salty 97% FF Hot dogs... who knows I just know its not FAT! lol.
After all this time I try not to let scale fluctuations get to me too much. I know I'm on a downward trend with JUDD so I'll keeep with it.

ETA: I just did a ring check and my fingers are definately retaining fluid. Its water.

kind · 02-18-2009, 09:47 AM

Hi Every one.
Today ends my 1st.week on Judd{.Lost 7 1/2lbs.}
Now if I can just keep that going or even loose2-4lbs aweek that will be great.
Today is a ud and a new week to see what I and Juddd can to together.
Letting my body tell me when Im really hungery and then eat and learn to stop when full.Thats what it is really about.Even through we are to watch calaries{For they add up
Those numbers he gives us is just that.That does not mean to eat to reach calaries,{At least thats what I take from reading book... Mainly to learn to feel full and stop and know when you really need to eat. Make sure to you are eating heathy foods like Grains, beans.. Fruits. alots of veg. Good fats and so on.drink water and Non sugar drinks.{Fresh juicing is great too.
This is Not a short run. You have to do thisway or another diet that works for you.
just my thoughts.
know yourself and you will be free.[ from book of juddd.
But 7 1/2lbs _{1 week. Pat myself on back.ha
}

Leo41 · 02-18-2009, 10:07 AM

Water gain is the pits! I don't have to eat excess sodium; my body retains water for all sorts of reasons. The good news is that eventually it lets go, and the scales show a loss, but it IS disheartening to see a gain, even when you know it's just water.

Take heart Retro and Kisha--I suffer with you:-)

dasiey · 02-18-2009, 12:53 PM

we all do from time to time
and way to go kind. keep up the good work

retroworx · 02-18-2009, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ilpirata

Hey Retro... yeah my weight was up this morning.

I suspect its because I didn't drink nearly the amount of water I usually do on DD... plus I ate some salty 97% FF Hot dogs... who knows I just know its not FAT! lol.
After all this time I try not to let scale fluctuations get to me too much. I know I'm on a downward trend with JUDD so I'll keeep with it.

ETA: I just did a ring check and my fingers are definately retaining fluid. Its water.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leo41

Water gain is the pits! I don't have to eat excess sodium; my body retains water for all sorts of reasons. The good news is that eventually it lets go, and the scales show a loss, but it IS disheartening to see a gain, even when you know it's just water.

Take heart Retro and Kisha--I suffer with you:-)

Is it possible that it's actually the restricted calories causing the water retention/weight gain on DDs?

Ilpirata · 02-18-2009, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Is it possible that it's actually the restricted calories causing the water retention/weight gain on DDs?

normally I am down after DD. But I also normally drink WAY more water than usual. Maybe 2 Litres and on UD I don't really drink water at all. Yesterday I didn't drink my water

So no, normally I am NOT up after DD...

LisaCeleste · 02-18-2009, 02:31 PM

Kisha how many calories are you eating on your upday and do you eat the same amount of calories (or try to ) on all of your up days?

dasiey · 02-18-2009, 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by retroworx

Is it possible that it's actually the restricted calories causing the water retention/weight gain on DDs?

I was wondering the same thing

retroworx · 02-18-2009, 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ilpirata

normally I am down after DD. But I also normally drink WAY more water than usual. Maybe 2 Litres and on UD I don't really drink water at all. Yesterday I didn't drink my water

So no, normally I am NOT up after DD...

Interesting. I usually am.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dasiey

I was wondering the same thing

Daisey:

Do you see an uptick on the scale after a DD as well?

Ilpirata · 02-18-2009, 03:07 PM

Quote:

Kisha how many calories are you eating on your upday and do you eat the same amount of calories (or try to ) on all of your up days?

well i think I've been eating way too many! Anywhere from 2300-2800!!! Its nuts. So this week I am going to make sure I ONLY eat to the JUDD recommended number for me which is maximum 2100. For convenience I'll aim for 2000 on UD and then I do up to 500 on DD which gives me an average of 1250 per day... which should equal .5 - 1 LB loss per week (A GREAT Rate of loss for me)

Thats what I'm aiming for and I know I can do it for the next seven days at least!

krysti · 02-18-2009, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fatnutritionist

Way to go Krysti! Our UD was good, both of us were surprised how NOT hungry we were. We did go out for a lovely dinner to celebrate our new house. Today is DD and first one I am doing while working on the road. I am excited to see how I do.
Thanks for all the encouragement guys, you are all doing so well!

Thank you!

It's only my third day, but I'm really liking this. I feel in control of my eating and I hope that sticks. Even doing Atkins, I never felt in control. I was always trying to plan meals that were new and different so I stayed on plan. Now I get a break from that every other day. It doesn't take a whole lot of thought planning 370 calories.

I'm really super cold today and I'm wondering if it's from the low calories. Of course, I work with kids, so it's possible I'm catching one of their colds.

All of you are doing wonderfully!!

Ilpirata · 02-18-2009, 03:26 PM

Quote:

I'm really super cold today and I'm wondering if it's from the low calories. Of course, I work with kids, so it's possible I'm catching one of their colds.

I am ALWAYS WAY COLDER on DD. I totally believe its from way fewer calories to stoke my furnace so to speak. I often shiver myself to sleep at night on DD!

Ilpirata · 02-18-2009, 03:27 PM

SOON -
I meant to write you a note earlier. Please don't worry about the UDs that you had... that is the beauty of this program. Everymorning is a chance to start over with a good clean DD. Just get right back on track and you'll be fine!

SpaceCowgirl · 02-18-2009, 03:45 PM

I just wanted to stop in and say hi

I'm on a DD today. I've been on JUDD for a week (this will be my 4th DD) and I haven't lost any weight. I had an initial loss of 2 pounds but it came back. I must be doing something wrong...

Ilpirata · 02-18-2009, 03:49 PM

Quote:

I just wanted to stop in and say hi

I'm on a DD today. I've been on JUDD for a week (this will be my 4th DD) and I haven't lost any weight. I had an initial loss of 2 pounds but it came back. I must be doing something wrong...

O no Cowgirl! that is discouraging. Have you been using ****** or other tracking software to track your food? I find it a total necessity! Can you post an UD and DD daily menu with cal totals?

I hope we can help!

SpaceCowgirl · 02-18-2009, 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ilpirata

O no Cowgirl! that is discouraging. Have you been using ****** or other tracking software to track your food? I find it a total necessity! Can you post an UD and DD daily menu with cal totals?

I hope we can help!

Yes, I have been keeping track of my calories for several months now.

My last DD I had 3 eggs and 2 pieces of bacon.

Calories: 340
Fat: 28 g 72.5%
Protein: 23 g 26.1%
Carbs: 1 g 1.4%

I saved all my calories and just ate dinner - not sure if that makes a difference.

My last UD I had:

B: 1 oz macadamia nuts, 20 olives, 1/2 avocado
L: hamburger patty, 1 slice cheddar, side salad with 2T ranch
D: 5 oz chicken breast and 1/2 cup green beans with 2T butter
S: 2 hard boiled eggs

Calories: 1765
Fat: 130 g, 68.5%
Protein: 95 g, 22.2%
Carbs: 39 g, 9.3%
Fiber: 19 g

I'm also exercising on my DD's (about 2 hours total) and I drink TONS of water.

Ilpirata · 02-18-2009, 04:19 PM

WOW.
Your menu looks immaculate to me! I hate to give this advice because I don't know how helpful it is... but just keep doing what you're doing for another couple of DD UD cycles... maybe your body is um *shocked*?

I haven't heard of someone not losing during at least the first week. Maybe stay off the scale for the week and then weigh? Are you only weighing on morning after DD? My weight fluctuates ALOT and also the book says to ONLY weigh on morning after DD.

SpaceCowgirl · 02-18-2009, 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ilpirata

WOW.
Your menu looks immaculate to me! I hate to give this advice because I don't know how helpful it is... but just keep doing what you're doing for another couple of DD UD cycles... maybe your body is um *shocked*?

I haven't heard of someone not losing during at least the first week. Maybe stay off the scale for the week and then weigh? Are you only weighing on morning after DD? My weight fluctuates ALOT and also the book says to ONLY weigh on morning after DD.

Technically, I only keep track of my weight on Monday mornings, but I do weigh every day (always in the morning).

I'm going to keep at it for at least another week to see what happens. *sigh*

Thanks for your help!

krysti · 02-18-2009, 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ilpirata

I am ALWAYS WAY COLDER on DD. I totally believe its from way fewer calories to stoke my furnace so to speak. I often shiver myself to sleep at night on DD!

That makes complete sense. Dh is going to love me when I throw the down comforter on the bed tonight!

Spacecowgirl~ I am so new to this that I may have no idea what I'm talking about, but everytime I start a new plan it takes a few days for my body to adjust. It's like I've confused my system and it holds onto water for all it's worth. I know how irritating it is to be doing everything right without seeing a loss.

Leo41 · 02-19-2009, 02:45 AM

Spacecowgirl-

I'd like to second what Krysti says about the water. My body often reacts to changes by retaining water. And you mention exercise; that, too, can result in fluid retention as the body repairs micro muscle tears as part of the recovery process. I also noticed the olives, cheddar, and ranch dressing in your menu--all can be sodium rich, and that can compound the problem.

I'd give it another week. (I know how discouraging this is because I've been there, too often.)

fatnutritionist · 02-19-2009, 04:58 AM

Yesterdays DD turned into an UD unfortunately. Still don't have that emotional eating thing in check but as of this morning I am still one pound lighter than when I started on saturday (and that is after pizza and chocolate). I need all the energy I can muster for the next few days because we are moving on saturday but I am going to keep things moderate. This can't be an all you can eat pass! I like having this thread to come to, you guys are great and none of the DRAMA!

dasiey · 02-19-2009, 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by retroworx

Interesting. I usually am.

Daisey:

Do you see an uptick on the scale after a DD as well?

yes sometimes. did 2 dd scale did not move.

dasiey · 02-19-2009, 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by retroworx

Interesting. I usually am.

Daisey:

Do you see an uptick on the scale after a DD as well?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ilpirata

I am ALWAYS WAY COLDER on DD. I totally believe its from way fewer calories to stoke my furnace so to speak. I often shiver myself to sleep at night on DD!

same here. can't wait til spring gets here.

kind · 02-19-2009, 08:48 AM

Hi every one.
Today is a ddand I feel great.Today going to subway and get one and Put it away for tomoorow ud.Weigh in tomorrow after mydd and seewhat body is doing.The more I read his book the better it seems to help.
How long have you all been on this.?Are we all pretty new to this?
New week number 2.
kind

Ilpirata · 02-19-2009, 09:59 AM

Hi Kind,

I started right before christmas but had a weird low carb moderate eating break for a five day vacation over new years. So just a coupla months for me.

Ilpirata · 02-19-2009, 10:00 AM

REALLY trying to keep my UD around 2000... I went a bit over that but didn't go crazy:

Calories 2,215
Fat 150.1 1,321 60 %
Carbohydrate 42.1 169 8 %
Dietary Fiber 7.1
Protein 174.3 728 33 %
Alcohol 0.0 0 0 %

I'm happy with all of the macros and i guess will live with the total cals. My problem is that today is DD and my big bosses and I are getting taken to lunch. If I make lunch my one meal of the day and get a salad with chicken and oil and vinegar I think I can pull it off.

I predict I'll be taking a unisom to go to sleep early tonight! I normally eat after work about 5:30 so having all my food earlier is going to be difficult!

Leo41 · 02-19-2009, 12:45 PM

Yes, Kisha, get to sleep early. I've found that when I have my food at noon, I really feel "hungry" at night, mainly because that's when I'm used to eating. So whether or not I actually have physical hunger, it's really difficult for me NOT to eat.

Ilpirata · 02-19-2009, 01:06 PM

LUNCH REPORT:

It went well> I got a cashew chicken feta salad with vinegarette on the side. Had 1 tbs of dressing, all the lettuce maybe 2 oz of chicken... 9 cashews and about 2 square inches of feta. no one noticed me counting my nuts lol. So I can still have two 97% fat free hebrew national hot dogs, 1 wedge of laughing cow light cheese and bulk that up with celery in a bowl with TJs mustard garlic aoili... and I'll come right in at 500 for the day!

I'm pleased.

02-18-2009, 06:10 AM	#301
soontobesexy'ntx Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: cajungurl Hitched to a Tejas boy Posts: 19,579 Gallery: soontobesexy'ntx Stats: 204.9/202.6/150 WOE: Souping our way thin 2013 Start Date: 1/1/13	It must be PMs/TOM failure I start a DD and do well all day at work THEN I get home and cant resist whatever DH has fixed for supper Monday was BBQ Tues Nachos so between Sat, Sun, Mon, Tues I've had 4 UD in a row today (was supposed to be my UD) I've brought to work 1 special K bar and a can of ravioli (540 cals in the can) I guess I could have a MD and have my "diet soup" for supper and start my DD/UD rotation when I'm finished with TOM ?? __________________ This Catepiller is going to be a Butterfly some day!

02-19-2009, 10:00 AM	#328
Ilpirata Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 10,061 Gallery: Ilpirata	DECENT UD Yesterday REALLY trying to keep my UD around 2000... I went a bit over that but didn't go crazy: Calories 2,215 Fat 150.1 1,321 60 % Carbohydrate 42.1 169 8 % Dietary Fiber 7.1 Protein 174.3 728 33 % Alcohol 0.0 0 0 % I'm happy with all of the macros and i guess will live with the total cals. My problem is that today is DD and my big bosses and I are getting taken to lunch. If I make lunch my one meal of the day and get a salad with chicken and oil and vinegar I think I can pull it off. I predict I'll be taking a unisom to go to sleep early tonight! I normally eat after work about 5:30 so having all my food earlier is going to be difficult!

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02-18-2009, 07:45 AM	#302
retroworx Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 2,168 Gallery: retroworx	Anyone higher weight after their DDs, not UDs??

02-18-2009, 09:14 AM	#303
Ilpirata Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 10,061 Gallery: Ilpirata	Hey Retro... yeah my weight was up this morning. Morning after a good succesful DD: Calories 500 Fat 24.5 219 44 % Carbohydrate 36.0 140 28 % Dietary Fiber 5.6 Protein 35.5 140 28 % Alcohol 0.0 0 0 % I suspect its because I didn't drink nearly the amount of water I usually do on DD... plus I ate some salty 97% FF Hot dogs... who knows I just know its not FAT! lol. After all this time I try not to let scale fluctuations get to me too much. I know I'm on a downward trend with JUDD so I'll keeep with it. ETA: I just did a ring check and my fingers are definately retaining fluid. Its water.

02-18-2009, 09:47 AM	#304
kind Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: mid west. Posts: 1,299 Gallery: kind WOE: Eatin clean@ using the Nutri Bullet Start Date: .Aug. 2012	Hi Every one. Today ends my 1st.week on Judd{.Lost 7 1/2lbs.} Now if I can just keep that going or even loose2-4lbs aweek that will be great. Today is a ud and a new week to see what I and Juddd can to together. Letting my body tell me when Im really hungery and then eat and learn to stop when full.Thats what it is really about.Even through we are to watch calaries{For they add up Those numbers he gives us is just that.That does not mean to eat to reach calaries,{At least thats what I take from reading book... Mainly to learn to feel full and stop and know when you really need to eat. Make sure to you are eating heathy foods like Grains, beans.. Fruits. alots of veg. Good fats and so on.drink water and Non sugar drinks.{Fresh juicing is great too. This is Not a short run. You have to do thisway or another diet that works for you. just my thoughts. know yourself and you will be free.[ from book of juddd. But 7 1/2lbs _{1 week. Pat myself on back.ha }

02-18-2009, 10:07 AM	#305
Leo41 Senior LCF member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 8,463 Gallery: Leo41 Stats: 340 then/145 now WOE: Low carb/calorie cycling	Water gain is the pits! I don't have to eat excess sodium; my body retains water for all sorts of reasons. The good news is that eventually it lets go, and the scales show a loss, but it IS disheartening to see a gain, even when you know it's just water. Take heart Retro and Kisha--I suffer with you:-)

02-18-2009, 12:53 PM	#306
dasiey Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 6,104 Gallery: dasiey WOE: Juddd Start Date: 11/13/2011	we all do from time to time and way to go kind. keep up the good work

02-18-2009, 02:31 PM	#309
LisaCeleste Junior LCF Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 51 Gallery: LisaCeleste Stats: 241/240/145 WOE: general low carb	Kisha how many calories are you eating on your upday and do you eat the same amount of calories (or try to ) on all of your up days?

02-18-2009, 03:27 PM	#315
Ilpirata Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 10,061 Gallery: Ilpirata	SOON - I meant to write you a note earlier. Please don't worry about the UDs that you had... that is the beauty of this program. Everymorning is a chance to start over with a good clean DD. Just get right back on track and you'll be fine!

02-18-2009, 03:45 PM	#316
SpaceCowgirl Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 167 Gallery: SpaceCowgirl WOE: Atkins Start Date: May 2008 Restart: Feb 2012 after baby :)	I just wanted to stop in and say hi I'm on a DD today. I've been on JUDD for a week (this will be my 4th DD) and I haven't lost any weight. I had an initial loss of 2 pounds but it came back. I must be doing something wrong...

02-18-2009, 04:19 PM	#319
Ilpirata Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 10,061 Gallery: Ilpirata	WOW. Your menu looks immaculate to me! I hate to give this advice because I don't know how helpful it is... but just keep doing what you're doing for another couple of DD UD cycles... maybe your body is um shocked? I haven't heard of someone not losing during at least the first week. Maybe stay off the scale for the week and then weigh? Are you only weighing on morning after DD? My weight fluctuates ALOT and also the book says to ONLY weigh on morning after DD.

02-19-2009, 02:45 AM	#322
Leo41 Senior LCF member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 8,463 Gallery: Leo41 Stats: 340 then/145 now WOE: Low carb/calorie cycling	Spacecowgirl- I'd like to second what Krysti says about the water. My body often reacts to changes by retaining water. And you mention exercise; that, too, can result in fluid retention as the body repairs micro muscle tears as part of the recovery process. I also noticed the olives, cheddar, and ranch dressing in your menu--all can be sodium rich, and that can compound the problem. I'd give it another week. (I know how discouraging this is because I've been there, too often.)

02-19-2009, 04:58 AM	#323
fatnutritionist Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Toronto Posts: 266 Gallery: fatnutritionist Stats: 328.5/311.5/175 WOE: JUDDDD Start Date: January 12th 2009 restart Atkins/March 1st JUDDDD	Yesterdays DD turned into an UD unfortunately. Still don't have that emotional eating thing in check but as of this morning I am still one pound lighter than when I started on saturday (and that is after pizza and chocolate). I need all the energy I can muster for the next few days because we are moving on saturday but I am going to keep things moderate. This can't be an all you can eat pass! I like having this thread to come to, you guys are great and none of the DRAMA!

02-19-2009, 08:48 AM	#326
kind Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: mid west. Posts: 1,299 Gallery: kind WOE: Eatin clean@ using the Nutri Bullet Start Date: .Aug. 2012	Hi every one. Today is a ddand I feel great.Today going to subway and get one and Put it away for tomoorow ud.Weigh in tomorrow after mydd and seewhat body is doing.The more I read his book the better it seems to help. How long have you all been on this.?Are we all pretty new to this? New week number 2. kind

02-19-2009, 09:59 AM	#327
Ilpirata Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 10,061 Gallery: Ilpirata	Hi Kind, I started right before christmas but had a weird low carb moderate eating break for a five day vacation over new years. So just a coupla months for me.

02-19-2009, 12:45 PM	#329
Leo41 Senior LCF member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 8,463 Gallery: Leo41 Stats: 340 then/145 now WOE: Low carb/calorie cycling	Yes, Kisha, get to sleep early. I've found that when I have my food at noon, I really feel "hungry" at night, mainly because that's when I'm used to eating. So whether or not I actually have physical hunger, it's really difficult for me NOT to eat.

02-19-2009, 01:06 PM	#330
Ilpirata Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 10,061 Gallery: Ilpirata	LUNCH REPORT: It went well> I got a cashew chicken feta salad with vinegarette on the side. Had 1 tbs of dressing, all the lettuce maybe 2 oz of chicken... 9 cashews and about 2 square inches of feta. no one noticed me counting my nuts lol. So I can still have two 97% fat free hebrew national hot dogs, 1 wedge of laughing cow light cheese and bulk that up with celery in a bowl with TJs mustard garlic aoili... and I'll come right in at 500 for the day! I'm pleased.