JUDDD TWEAKERS, FAST 5-ers, & WATER FASTERS

[maizenbluebabe]

Originally Posted by Ilpirata

Hi dancinchef and welcome! I just must defend the other thread though... while activity is slowed there it is NOT dead and is a good place to post about non tweaked aspects of the original JUDD program as proscribed by Dr. Johnson.

She's right, dancinchef! Now you need to know that we have recently been through a discussion of actual DEAD JUDDERS here, and that other JUDDD thread at LCF is not them! . And not "dead, " at all--they just have a different outlook on things.

I think our name says it well: we are a bunch of mavericks who need to feel free to "Tweak" as we "please" without anyone bossing us around, and the members of the other thread feel more comfortable sticking more closely to Dr Johnson's very sensible rules. And some of them bop back and forth between the two thereads very happily.

[maizenbluebabe]

Originally Posted by caramel

Good morning everyone,

Well yesterday was my second wf this week, and no I don't usually do two but since I switched days this week I was going to end up with more calories than last week so I did the extra wf but will return to my once a week wf next week. Having said all that I am down 3.2 pounds this weekmy weigh in was this morning and it may be all water weight but I'll take it, if those pounds want to sneak back on this week, well pooey to them cause I only weigh once a week:: All I have to say is drinking plenty of water rocks!!!

Hope everyone has a great and productive day today is an UD for me I'' post again later but will be lurking.

Well, Caramel, we are twins! I also lost exactly 3.2 pounds and yes, it may be "water weight" but I am fitting into my clothes more comfortably so I will gladly take it, too.

Maybe even more important than my weight loss this week is that on my DD's, I can forget about food entirely and that is WONDERFUL!

[dancinchef]

Thanks Kisha and you're right. The other JUDDD thread is how I first got interested in this WOE. And truthfully I'm not tweaking much for now. I'm just trying to figure out how and what to eat on DDs. I've had a couple of good days and one not so good but I figure it's a learning curve and some the tweaks may help me get a working plan.

I didn't mean to imply anything negative. I have been to one an another site that felt to whacky-doo for me though!
Susan

[Quandria]

Originally Posted by dancinchef

Hey Ya'll

Can I come in? I've been following this thread (and the dead thread) with a lot of interest. Reading everything I can find on the net, QOD, JUDDD, IF, and visiting some groups with this WOE. This is by far the most active and if I may say so, best support I've seen. Plus some groups turn me off with their extreme eating, you know, all I've had today is one tiny bite of (fill in the blank).

Some of you may remember me from Crack the Code (hi Quandria!) which turned out to be not for me and after that I did a couple of months of WW. All that did for me was prove once and for all that I cannot eat LF and low cal. Gained 10# and have spent the last several months struggling to get that off and get back to LC. I'm back to eating right but I can never climb the carb ladder and still lose. This WOE seems to make sense to me especially since my body adapts very quickly to lower calories.

So I've been JUDDDing the last week, no real scale success but then I've been experimenting with what I can eat and when. I have lost 2 inches from both waist and hips in the last week. Anyway, I feel excited about doing something positive, I was really getting into a funk!

Susan

Hi Dancin' Great to see you here!!

I think you'll really like this plan, it was an easy transition for me from CTFLC, and at my lowest I was down 11 pounds from the lowest I got on CTFLC. I'm up a bit now because of the holidays and then a vacation and birthday and now tom. But I'm on my way back down, and I simply LOVE this plan!!!

Congratulations on the inches lost, that's really great success. I'm sure the scale will start moving down for you soon. As you know, there's a bit of an adjustment phase with this plan where it takes a little while to figure out exactly how it best works for you.

Welcome to a great group!!

[WHIRLYBIRD]

Hellooooo!!!
To the new ones here! Come on in, it's good your here!

I'm on my UD and am trying to decide what to eat for an early dinner. DH said that I could choose the restaurant of my choice. WoooHoooo! Well, kind of... I really don't have much of an appetite today since yesterday was a total water fast.
I know Maizenbluebabe is astonished by her declining appetite too. I think it's the coolest thing EVER! Call it what you will but I think it has something to do with the body resetting it's self as to what it really desires and needs for nourishment. Not ding dongs and twinkies that I think I might need instead... Salad is really sounding good right now. Weird but true!

Caramel & Maizenbluebabe, Congratulations Girls!! Great job!! 3.2 pounds is wonderful!

Keep on keeping on Ladies! Whatever works for you and makes you feel your best, DO IT! Judge your own body and mind to see how you are doing on your WOE plan. No one should ever influence you to do something extreme. It's got to come from within in order for it to work best for you.

Thanks everyone for sharing your thoughts and experiences. I learn something new every day from this thread.

XO,
Jen

[kind]

Hi Every one. Today is going to be my first 3 days of Fasting.{Tea {plain} or water.
See how it goes. What does DD mean?{Is that down days? And what is that?
Like I said I will see how I feel on doing 3 days of fasting and Monday since I will be back at curves and Other exercising I will add fresh fruit juicing or vegetables to juice. And Then each Friday or Sat. Do 2-3 days of water or tea fast.
See how I do on that.
How does that sound to you??
I do want to try to this but I think I will need lots of help.
I put on 12lbs when We went to Hi. for 18 days and then over holidays.Having a hard time getting back on losing.
So maybe this will help.What is the Avg. weight loss doing this way.

[WHIRLYBIRD]

Hey Kind,
I have a question. Why are you fasting for 3 consecutive days in a row? Is there another diet you follow besides JUDDDD, Fast Five, IF?
DD stands for Down Day, meaning that on your down day, you keep the calories to a minimum and if you are following strict Johnson Up Day Down Day way of eating, you will want to refer to either his web site or his book to find your min./max. calories for that day. UD stands for Up Day, meaning you can pretty much eat whatever you feel like. Try not to go over board with your calories but eat till you are satisfied, not stuffed.
Hope this helps.
I'm sure others will chime in and give more details.
Good Luck,
Jen

[Ilpirata]

Hi Every one. Today is going to be my first 3 days of Fasting.{Tea {plain} or water.
See how it goes. What does DD mean?{Is that down days? And what is that?
Like I said I will see how I feel on doing 3 days of fasting and Monday since I will be back at curves and Other exercising I will add fresh fruit juicing or vegetables to juice. And Then each Friday or Sat. Do 2-3 days of water or tea fast.
See how I do on that.
How does that sound to you??
I do want to try to this but I think I will need lots of help.
I put on 12lbs when We went to Hi. for 18 days and then over holidays.Having a hard time getting back on losing.
So maybe this will help.What is the Avg. weight loss doing this way.

I have the same questions as WHIRLY does kind... Which plan are you following? I suspect you may have gotten sidetracked or misinformed somewhere... Dr. Johnsons Up Day Down Day Diet which is the basis for the Ways of Eating followed in this thread is a plan where you alternate one very low calorie day followed immediately by one high calorie day. These are the DD (down day) and UD (up day). you can find a description of his plan and a tool to calculate your DD and UD calories on his website.

This particular thread is for those that apply various tweaks to the basic DD UD format. Many do intermittent fasting or fast five or other variations... but none of those variations involve three day water fasts. The basics are always low day followed by high day followed by low day etc.

[Quandria]

Morning Tweakers!

TOM ate my weight loss, but I knew it would, so that's fine. Plus I had too much sodium yesterday on my up day.

This is my 2nd down day since coming back from vacation, and I woke up hungry again (bud didn't eat). Now it's 10:20 and I'm fine and it's feeling like a regular down day. I'll be glad when my SIRT1 stores are fully replenished and I stop waking up hungry on down days.

I'm not sure yet whether I'll have some dinner tonight or make this a water fast, just have to play that by ear. I workout tonight, so like Wednesday I'll gauge how I feel about working out, and eat something a little beforehand if I feel like I need it to get a good workout.

You know, I have this plan honed to so few rules, and I'm absolutely strict about those rules. I just love that there are so few things to worry about.

M-W-F are under 500 calories with M being a water fast. Also I do 45 minutes of cardio on those days (although I lie and tell myself I only have to do 30 - it always ends up over 45). Sundays I can eat anything I want as long as it's healthy. No coffee except on holidays, and no alcohol except on Thursdays. And that's it for me!

[EmandM]

Hi ladies! Wow this thread moves fast! I can't keep up! lol

UD for me and I think I will be having UD's until Monday. If I can do a DD tomorrow or Sunday I will, but I don't think so due to the social functions we are attending. But I am not stressing over it. I ate whatever over the holidays and got back on track quickly, so hopefully the same will happen next week!

Wee Irish - I too would have a hard time with 3 DD's in a row and one meal a day. It's not a plan I have heard of before. Is it your own?

Kind - are you following Wee Irish's plan? You mentioned doing a 3 day fast. The rest of us do one DD (down day, fast day or low call day) and then an UD (where we eat as much as we want according to our own needs and wants) followed by a DD etc. Don't make it harder on yourself than it needs to be!

Quandria - I admire you for giving up coffee. I did when I was pg (had the odd decaf) but I just love my morning joe!

Whirlybird - isn't it great that you can choose the restaurant of your choice and actually enjoy yourself instead of worrying about blowing your diet? I love this woe!

Caramel and Maize - double woo hoo on the weight loss. KUTGW ladies!

Zer - great to see you. Are you still lurking? Remind me of what plan you are following? Are you ready to start JUDDD soon or are you still deciding on a plan?

Hi dancinchef and welcome.

[maizenbluebabe]

Originally Posted by kind

Hi Every one. Today is going to be my first 3 days of Fasting.{Tea {plain} or water.
See how it goes. What does DD mean?{Is that down days? And what is that?
Like I said I will see how I feel on doing 3 days of fasting and Monday since I will be back at curves and Other exercising I will add fresh fruit juicing or vegetables to juice. And Then each Friday or Sat. Do 2-3 days of water or tea fast.
See how I do on that.
How does that sound to you??
I do want to try to this but I think I will need lots of help.
I put on 12lbs when We went to Hi. for 18 days and then over holidays.Having a hard time getting back on losing.
So maybe this will help.What is the Avg. weight loss doing this way.

Kind, please know that what is in this message is for your own good. It may sound stern but it looks like that is what it will take to make you understand what is going on here.

This post is hard for me to write but frankly the plan you outline scares hell out of me! You dont have to buy or read Dr Johnson's actual book--you can learn all you need to know from a thorought reading of his website. Take notes!


And , you absolutely CANNOT follow this DANGEROUS plan and continue to post here.

When you joined us, I TOLD YOU (POLITELY) TO GO READ THE INTRO POSTS HERE ON PAGES 1 TO 3. AND I MEANT IT! So, start there! And then you go to Dr Johnsons website and read the whole thing until you understand it and dont come back here until you do. You CANNOT FOLLOW A PLAN SAFELY IF YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT IT.

And it is clear from your remarks that you know nothing about JUDDD or IF. and that you havent even taken the time to read any of the informative posts already in this thread when you got here or you would not be asking what " DD " means and what does a down day mean. I almost cannot believe you are saying these things.

I am not at all intending to be unfriendly and you are more than welcome here. But we have two main rules here: 1.) Be nice to others and 2.)know the basics of what you are doing and choose a safe plan. And dont come here expecting a Quick Fix, either.

You seem to know nothing about the details of these plans and for your own sake, I want you to READ the websites before you bombard us with questions because whatever we might answer in trying to help you would just be a waste of time if you dont understand the basics.

We are glad to have you here but you must do as we say about educating yourself on what we are discussing, or leave because we do not want to be responsible for damaging/ruining your health.

This idea of 3 fast days in a row is just plan dangerous. Your body needs nourishment and you cant get it that way. Eat whole foods sensibly and cut back on calories sensibly--be physically active, avoid all frankenfoods, and you will lose weight. Being the thinnest woman in the graveyard is not a worthwhile goal.

Some of us talk about fasting in a low calorie way but we do it EVERY OTHER DAY and wouldnt dream of doing it more often. And on our alternate days, we get plenty of good healthful food. This is what you must do also if you are to stay here and I am saying this because I care what happens to you..

Wishing you good luck and good health! Sally

[maizenbluebabe]

MY UpDay menu: Big cup of coffee with cream to start the day and I just had a lovely lunch of eggs, mushrooms and greenpeppers with salsa over them and green tea and a little bowl of home-frozen blueberries for dessert.

Tonight I am having shrimp (steamed) served over mixed veggies as well as a salad. I have a good appetite today, but NO craving for sweets or starches, hallelujah..

Went out and stocked up on some lovely fresh and frozen LC stuff at the grocery store (it is SO COLD AND WINDY HERE I thought for a minute I was back in Ann Arbor except no snow.)

[WHIRLYBIRD]

Maizenbluebabe, YOU COULDN'T BE MORE CORRECT!!!
This is not the place for Kind to hang out if she hasn't a least read the book or studied the web site for JUDDDD.
It's going to take good ol fashion reading to get up to speed with this group!
Sorry Kind. We mean well, we really do.
Please don't do anything regarding strict fasting until you know COMPLETELY what you are getting yourself into and please make sure it's backed up with plenty of scientific studies and a reputable doctor(s).

Good Luck Kind. Come back after reading the book and we'll be glad to answer any of your questions you might have.

,
Jen

[LadyWuzzy]

broke my fast a little early today, was very hungry. i think i'll hold off on the water fasting for a bit, i don't want to do too much at once, especially since i'm still a little under the weather. dinner tonight is spaghetti. i'm really not in the mood for pasta, maybe i can talk DH into something else.

Maizen - your menu sounds very good, minus mushrooms, LOL. not a mushroom fan at all.

have a great evening everyone and i'll check back tomorrow!

Wuzzy

[Ilpirata]

Good Luck Kind. Come back after reading the book and we'll be glad to answer any of your questions you might have.

or even just his website ought to cover it. Its only a few pages to get the jist of the program.

[NoSugarShell]

Hey everyone -

Wow, I have had kinda a bad day. Nothing in particular just woke up grumpy. Yesterday, I was sooo hungry and ended up not having a very good day calorie and carb wise. I couldn't sleep last night so I am tired today.

So, I am back on track today. Opened my window at 1 and am having a very low carb dinner tonight and then tommorrow will be a better day!

I have been researching some good low carb things to try and have some ideas for this weekend. Woo hoo!

Anyway, this thread is so fast that it's hard to keep up but I always enjoy catching up and hearing all the different things everyone is doing.

Maizenbluebabe - I agree with everything you said to KIND. I think it's important to have an understanding of how this works before doing something so drastic. So good for you for speaking out.

Everyone have a wonderful evening.

Michelle

[maizenbluebabe]

Jen and Kisha and Michelle, thanks for the support. and thanks for understanding that I am not trying to chase Kind away, but rather, use some Tough Love to knock some sense into her head before she damages her health irrevocably. I would love for her to stay if she can find a safe plan to follow, and do it the right way.

LadyWuzzy, so good to see you and the DD here with us today...sorry you dont like 'shrooms--my DH doesnt either so I cant put them in stuff he eats, too.

Michelle, I'd get grumpy too with the winter weather you have had dumped on you this week!

[shunsweets]

Hello to all. Completed my spiritual fasting with great peace of mind and am now getting ready for a big dinner and evening snacks afterall it's UD! We are having chicken parmesan, shrimp with bacon and mushrooms and cream sauce, and some kind of low carb dessert.

DH's appt went well. He liked the surgeon and will be scheduled some time in Feb or March as soon as there is an opening. The Dr actually gave us a ton of information and some of it was dietary which really shocked me as Drs, esp surgeons, rarely address diet. He said there are 5 important things for men with prostate cancer - 1) selenium(yum brazil nuts!), 2)Vit E, 3)Vit D, 4)lycopene (tomatoes and such), and 5) Soy - yes soy is excellent for men with prostate CA and here I had taken it out of our diets due to thyroid concerns. Just thought that was interesting info.

Emanm - my next 3 days sound like yours and may all be UD's but I love your flexible attitude and I'm going to emulate it and worry about getting back on track Monday.

I was pleased to find how easy my 44 hour fast was. JUDDD has prepared me well but I won't be doing another for at least a month. It's back to regular DD's and UD's for me. The plan works perfectly for maintenance for me and as long as I stay very low carb my blood sugars are great too. Now I just need to master a few more DD recipes. Thank goodness for Retro.

Maizenblue I agree personals are getting too hard as busy as our thread is but please everyone know I read all your posts and learn something be it positive or negative daily. What a great team!

[maizenbluebabe]

shunsweets What good news! It sounds like your DH has lucked out with his doctor. How wonderful to have one who thinks of the whole person and not just a "body part"! And it sounds like after your fast, you yourself are now very centered and ready to move on with hope in your heart. I am so glad for that and is what I have been praying for for you--not just physical healing for your dear husband, but also comfort and spiritual strength for both of you.

Like you and EmandM I do like the idea of being able to switch days around and fit them into our schedules. dont think it does a lot fo damage if we are eating

[maizenbluebabe]

AMEN shunsweets, about the "personals" Maybe we need to make a "Personals Rule"or two:

1.)no one has to feel obligated to refer to what someone else has written when they post and :

2.) no one should feel offended if they write something fabulous and no one mentions it or seems to pay attention.

That doesnt mean our "unnoticed" posts been not read, enjoyed, and inspired or informed other members. We have all belonged to otherwise wonderful threads where a lot of time and space was taken up in everyone responding to everyone else. And what happens then is that you lose focus on the specific subject you are there to share and the place gets jammed with non-essentials.

Brief personal and off-topic remarks bring us closer togehter and I dont want them to stop, but we just need to not worry aboout responding to each little word we see here.

[Quandria]

200 calorie down day today, and 50 minutes on the treadmill for 489 calories burned.

[EmandM]

Originally Posted by shunsweets

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Emanm - my next 3 days sound like yours and may all be UD's but I love your flexible attitude and I'm going to emulate it and worry about getting back on track Monday.

Shunsweets - glad the spiritual fast went well. I think it is easier for me to have that attitude since i am close to (or really at) maintenance. But I don't want to miss out on an event that includes birthday cake and what-not because I am on a diet. i need to enjoy certain things and live my life in a way that feels right for me. So I won't let a few UD's in a row, and the potential weight gain consequences, ruin a good time. That's how I see it anyway! lol Enjoy your UD's too!

Maizenbluebabe - I agree with your concern about kind and the others who are following Wee Irish's diet. Tweaking is one thing, that seems like another.

Kind - please no we are not trying to be harsh or judgemental, just concerned.

The personals are hard to respond to at once. I do my best but don't always get around to everyone. I hope no one is offended!

LadyWuzzy - I have been Juddding for a few months now and have yet to try a water fast and I got to maintenance, so ease into it if you want, but don't pressure yourself if it's not something you can do right now. I keep wanting to, but I have a problem with oral fixation!

Michelle - we have had a record winter here in Ontario. More snow so far this year than we had for all of last year. We are getting another dumping after the weekend. We seriously have nowhere to put the snow anymore. There are piles all over the place and the streets that can hold two cars width-wide are now one way streets pretty much due to the snowbanks everywhere. Plus, it is too cold to go out and enjoy it with these minus 20 temperatures! I can't wait for Spring!

[skeeweeaka]

Hey SUSAN to the group! They are a very inspiring bunch of women!

Congrats to you ladies on LOSING THE WEIGHT, hey water or NOT I'd be happy to see those kind of numbers!

Well yesterday was my UD and I had that whiskey sour, which ws delicious, I don't drink very often and a bunch of CARBY stuff! Man I woke up the next morning and my sinuses were so out of control I couldn't breath. Had a bagel, which had wheat and I think I'm allergic to that so I avoid it... That definitely was the culprit...geez! No wonder I don't eat them...but my daughter made me one and I couldn't resist!

Anyway TODAY was my DD, I can tell you ladies that I did a WATER FAST and only had one cup of coffee and the rest water...well besides the ACV (2 T. in water)...which helps with balancing my electrolytes I think... Wasn't hungry, had energy, it was a good day...other than my sinuses and itchy eyes! I realy felt good to fast and pray... I'm lookimg forward to my UD tomorrow. Wel'll see what the day brings!

Here's an article that I just read about fasting which was good...not promoting it just providing some insight...The Benefits of Fasting!

I think the one inparticular that I like the most is:

Heightening your awareness

“A wonderful thing about fasting is that it puts an interval between the behavior that you are accustomed to and the behavior that you aspire to. We tend to be creatures of habit, and the ways that we are accustomed to eating and living feel as natural to us as breathing. That is why it is so difficult for people to stop bad habits. But fasting brings your present lifestyle to an abrupt halt. It gives you an opportunity to pause, reflect and decide how you are going to conduct your life afterwards. This enables you to make a break with your past and set off in a new, more positive direction.
“There is nothing routine about eating after a fast. Each meal is a celebration. After fasting, you tend to be very conscious about what you are eating, and why. Fasting heightens your awareness, as well as your appreciation for food. By fasting, we learn to eat with reverence.
“It is the non-doing aspect of fasting that enables us to make behavioral stopping and pausing and interrupting our usual patterns, as we learn to take more conscious control of ourselves.
“There is no better way to stop a vicious cycle of self-destructive behavior than by fasting.”


[COLOR=blue]There are exceptions[/COLOR]

[COLOR=blue]Not everyone is a candidate for fasting. There are a number of factors to consider before a fast is recommended. My procedure is to first review the patient’s medical history and perform a comprehensive physical examination including appropriate laboratory or specialized diagnostic tests. I then review my findings with the patient and make appropriate recommendations. These may include dietary and lifestyle recommendations. These may include dietary and lifestyle changes, exercise programs, etc., and, when indicated, fasting. When fasting is indicated, patients stay at my institution. [/COLOR][COLOR=blue]Not every individual or every condition will respond to conservative treatment. Occasionally medical care may be necessary. When a medical consultation or treatment is indicated, the safest methods available should be utilized.[/COLOR]


TJ

[maizenbluebabe]

Originally Posted by skeeweeaka

[COLOR=blue]Not everyone is a candidate for fasting. There are a number of factors to consider before a fast is recommended. My procedure is to first review the patient’s medical history and perform a comprehensive physical examination including appropriate laboratory or specialized diagnostic tests. I then review my findings with the patient and make appropriate recommendations. These may include dietary and lifestyle recommendations. These may include dietary and lifestyle changes, exercise programs, etc., and, when indicated, fasting. When fasting is indicated, patients stay at my institution. [/COLOR][COLOR=blue]Not every individual or every condition will respond to conservative treatment. Occasionally medical care may be necessary. When a medical consultation or treatment is indicated, the safest methods available should be utilized.[/COLOR]


TJ

great post, TJ, and valuable information. Most definitely , everyone should not try to fast. In fact, Fawn ( a highly respected mod and well-trained health/nutrition expert on these boards) warns that fasting in winter can be dangerous.

[retroworx]

Originally Posted by shunsweets

Thank goodness for Retro.

Aw, shucks. :blush:

[LadyWuzzy]

EmandM - yeah I'll wait a bit on the water fasting, there's plenty of time to try that. i also want to do this one from the Fast 5 where you fast from 10pm one night until 5pm two days later. That was recommended if you find yourself in a plateau but again, I don't feel the need to do that yet, just something I'd like to try in the future.

Starting off the day with my tea. I think my water consumption is slowly getting better. I find myself reaching for water first before diet soda now. I'm addicted to Fanta Orange Zero Yesterday at work I went down to the Cafeteria to get some ice water and realized that their water tasted extremely gross! I'll stick with the Aquafina flavored water at work.

Have a great one and I'll check back later on this afternoon!

Wuzzy

Originally Posted by EmandM

Shunsweets - glad the spiritual fast went well. I think it is easier for me to have that attitude since i am close to (or really at) maintenance. But I don't want to miss out on an event that includes birthday cake and what-not because I am on a diet. i need to enjoy certain things and live my life in a way that feels right for me. So I won't let a few UD's in a row, and the potential weight gain consequences, ruin a good time. That's how I see it anyway! lol Enjoy your UD's too!

Maizenbluebabe - I agree with your concern about kind and the others who are following Wee Irish's diet. Tweaking is one thing, that seems like another.

Kind - please no we are not trying to be harsh or judgemental, just concerned.

The personals are hard to respond to at once. I do my best but don't always get around to everyone. I hope no one is offended!

LadyWuzzy - I have been Juddding for a few months now and have yet to try a water fast and I got to maintenance, so ease into it if you want, but don't pressure yourself if it's not something you can do right now. I keep wanting to, but I have a problem with oral fixation!

Michelle - we have had a record winter here in Ontario. More snow so far this year than we had for all of last year. We are getting another dumping after the weekend. We seriously have nowhere to put the snow anymore. There are piles all over the place and the streets that can hold two cars width-wide are now one way streets pretty much due to the snowbanks everywhere. Plus, it is too cold to go out and enjoy it with these minus 20 temperatures! I can't wait for Spring!

[Zer]

As I lurk here and on some other threads, to see how they are working for the regular posters, I am chasing down info on various plans at various sites. My basic books are Atkins' DANDR and Atkins72, but I do read at online sites to get a better grasp of how any LC plan starts out before it gets tweaked to fit an individual schedule or circumstance. As I contemplate a 3day fast, I get dizzy!

...3 fast days in a row is just plan dangerous. Your body needs nourishment and you cant get it that way. Eat whole foods sensibly and cut back on calories sensibly--be physically active, avoid all frankenfoods, and you will lose weight.

An occasional light-food day feels restful to my body and seems to ease inflammation of joints and achy organs. But 3 days at a whack sounds brutal to cellular metabolic processes, all the cleansing and rebuilding that goes on hourly simply MUST demand a lot of a body. I am more and more convinced that my own body prefers a 48hr cycle of nourishment and restful liquids to hydrate a massive body full of hard-working cells.

Just want to say that I am reading and that I appreciate the caring shown here as we all explore what works best for our individual bodies. Thank you.

[Zer]

Anyone using this Alfredo Sauce to fatten up your menu? Scorpgc says it's the nutmeg that makes it so incredibly tasty. Nutmeg is one of the thermogenic spices that kicks up our metabolic process. Yay for nutmeg, especially freshly ground - so fragrant!

[jgw]

Hello everyone! Just checking in this morning. Yesterday was a down day for me and I had no problems. Down .2 pounds since Tuesday morning do I am well satisfied with this way of eating. It's a up day for me so I'll check in later.
Have a great day!
Jan

[wallaby]

Have I said lately how much I love this WOE? I've had a few challenging days, way up on UD and not so down on DD - with wild fluctuations in the scale to boot. But TOM has finally left the building and I'm back to where I started last week. NO GAIN!

Today is back to a DD - but I'm not going to go crazy on it. I'll probably stick with a few HB eggs and some veggies. So far i've had 1 fresh-from-the-coop egg. SO good, nothing more than a tiny bit of salt needed. (wish I could share these with all of you....there is nothing like eggs from happy well-cared for chickens.)

I'm really looking more towards Monday to kick it back into high gear -probably with a WF after a good healthy UD tomorrow. Still it feels good to know I am not having to start over.