JohnsonAlternateDayDiet/JUDDD Jan 2009

[Quandria]

Hello Ladies - and welcome to 2009!!!

The new thread looks great, thanks Maizenblue!!

Just in for a minute, I did 45 minutes on the treadmill and it and my computer are in an unheated room, so I'm freezing as I type this and really need a shower

Today is a much needed down day for me, and it's a huge relief after all that holiday eating. My weight is up today, but it's also tom and my weight always spikes when I have coffee (which I only have on holidays). So I'm optimistic about seeing a better number on the scale tomorrow. So far it's a water fast today, but I might have some dinner.

My tips for this plan are to wait as late as you can on the down days to start eating - I see this strategy works for lots of people. Also, as mentioned on the old thread, many of us drink lots of tea without sweetener. This helps lots on cold days! I'm not sure if we're allowed to list commercial links, but do a search for sites that sell low-sodium and sodium-free foods. I use lots of spice mixes that contain no sodium and it's an easy way to control how much sodium goes into your food, which helps me, and spice mixes are an easy way to add variety and flavor to veggies and soups and eggs on down days. Oh, also I buy V-8 by the case at a warehouse club and keep some in my trunk. It has 70 calories per can, is filling, and having it my car saves me in case I'm unexpectedly delayed somewhere on a down day (it also makes a quick soup base).

That's it for now, my hands are too cold to type. to everyone just starting out. I love this plan and have been on it since the end of September. Oh, another quick tip - it takes a little while to get this plan perfected into something that works FOR YOU. It took me a while to figure out that M-W-F down days work best for me, and that exercising on those down days works best for me. So don't get discouraged if you go over your down day calories a bit at first, or if it takes you a little while to customize how this plan works best for you. The down days get much easier as you go along, and soon enough you'll have it all figured out. This is a great site for tips and encouragement, so post if you need advice and post your success stories. Don't worry that you're rambling on or off topic, just post!

Happy New Year!!!

[NoSugarShell]

Wow - I made it till 4pm. I didn't really think that would be possible. I haven't eaten anything and really it hasn't been bad. I am usually hungry even when I eat....with that being said I can say at this point I am getting hungry and my stomach is growling rather aggressively.

Leo and Retroworx -I feel your pain. I am hypo also and it's so frustrating. My endo did a metabolism test in Sept on me and actually told me I would have to stay under 800 calories a day to lose weight. That's insane. I would have no energy if I did that everyday. Yet, he will not optimize my Armour. He keeps me undermedicated....but I have an appt Tuesday with another doc. We'll see. In the meantime, I would like to find and WOE that I can do and lose some weight.

I will check in this evening. I am going to go home and eat my 500 calories for today. I have leftovers from last night that sound really good right now.

[LYNN8498]

It is almost 5pm - a DD - and I have about 20 cals left to consume...I am certainly not accustomed to not eating until dinner and I fear I may binge if I try. I also fear I will not make it to my first DD and stick to my 495 cals...

This morning I ate 140 cals (2 eggs), and then walked it all off on the treadmill - Do you all "reconsume" these cals if you burn them off on a DD, to keep the energy up; or do you strictly stick to the 500 cals?

[Leo41]

Retroworx-

I don't think my endo meant that not losing on 1000c is "normal" for everyone--he just wasn't surprised that I have to eat UNDER that to lose--that is, he thinks it's normal for me.

Michelle's report that she'd have to eat 800c a day to lose is really scarey, but I think I'm in a similar situation. That's why I always get upset when people write on these boards that you have to "eat more" in order to lose or that someone is not eating enough. I've tried that, and boy do I gain FAST if I eat as much as 1500c!

That's why I'm really hoping that this plan will work. I can manage a DD, and I actually feel like a normal person eating on an UD, although I try to stay between 1200and 1400 on the UD.

I admire you for not weighing for a month--that's what I should do, too, because I tend to retain water, and even though my fingers might be puffy (a sure sign of retention for me), if I am up a pound I get upset--although I've often retained as much as 5-7 lbs of water at a time.

Michelle's experience of being undermedicated is all too common for hypothyroid patients because excessive meds can lead to heart problems, so a lot of endos are very, very reluctant to up meds at any time. Many of them also believe that their patients will abuse the meds in order to lose weight--not understanding that we need to be optimized to have any chance at all of losing weight. For example, unless my TSH is 1.0 or below, I really struggle to lose an ounce. When I gained those 10 pounds, my TSH was 2.6, and most physicians consider that "normal." Even my endo wasn't concerned about the bloodwork--he only gave me Cytomel (T3) when I reported such bone-crushing fatigue that I couldn't function. THEN he noticed that my T3 was low, and agreed to the Cytomel because, he said, the TSH "could be lower" without problems.

I hope you're checking your own blood test results and not relying on the doctor to notice things.

[retroworx]

Originally Posted by NoSugarShell

My endo did a metabolism test in Sept on me and actually told me I would have to stay under 800 calories a day to lose weight.

800?? Yikes!

Hey, NSS, what's the metabolism test involve? Is it more complex/accurate than those "blow-air-into-a-tube" things?

[NoSugarShell]

Retroworx - It was one of the blow in the tube things for a certain amount of time. Are those not very accurate? It seems accurate considering it takes an enormous effort for me to lose anything.

I am hoping once I am optimized on Armour that I might at least have a fighting chance. This plan might work for me better than anything else because it takes alot of stress out of it.....if that makes sense. I was alot more relaxed today about eating. I am usually so worried about what I am going to eat. How many calories, carbs, etc....

[retroworx]

Originally Posted by Leo41

Michelle's report that she'd have to eat 800c a day to lose is really scarey, but I think I'm in a similar situation. That's why I always get upset when people write on these boards that you have to "eat more" in order to lose or that someone is not eating enough. I've tried that, and boy do I gain FAST if I eat as much as 1500c!

Yup, me too!

I admire you for not weighing for a month--that's what I should do, too, because I tend to retain water, and even though my fingers might be puffy (a sure sign of retention for me), if I am up a pound I get upset--although I've often retained as much as 5-7 lbs of water at a time.

Don't admire me -- it's really coming down to survival. I'm a complete headcase when I see the scale not responding or going up for no reason. Then I can't stick to my resolve, which doesn't manifest as binging per se but as leaping willy-nilly from plan to plan.

I agree that Michelle's case of being undermedicated for her thyroid is all too common. Once I read the epic thyroid thread by Pam here on LCF I realized that my numbers indicated treatment tho my PCP did not. I've had to go to a self-pay homeopathic MD to get my Armour treatment. I am currently on 2 grains and still completely exhausted, fall asleep while driving, etc. We are still titrating up, based on FT3 numbers (not relying on just TSH) so we shall see. I have anemia (with a Ferritin of 3, which is almost as low as you can go) which is complicating my thyroid treatment somewhat and obviously contributing to my low energy levels.

Gee, any wonder my metabolism isn't peppy?

[caramel]

HELLO ALL
Today is a DD for me and I almost through with it but boy am I hungry. Today after my doctors appt. my 12 yr. old wanted to go to Mcdonalds. Well they had a special 2 big mac sandwiches for 3.50. She was going to split the other with her 2 younger sisters. The girls didn't want it so I cut it in half and ate it. I was going to eat what I usually eat on DD days which is lc chilli but that was out now. The calories from the half big mac was 270 I ate one wasa fiber craker w/toppings and I drank a atkins shake for dinner. My days totals are 524 but I am sooo hungry. I know the big mac brought on cravings and I usually wait til dinner to eat my biggest meal so guys that I don't binge

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Caramel - I think that you did amazing. To eat half a Big Mac and still end up with only 524 calories is amazing! If you need to have another wasa cracker and a cup of hot tea. That will get you thru tonight and only add about 40 calories. Just remember you can eat in the morning!

[maizenbluebabe]

to the newcomers in our group. Join right in and ask questions or brag (or even, whine a bit if you need to )

Sounds like everyone is off to a good start, even if they do sin a bit (Caramel ) and struggle with choices. It always helps to know that we can start over again with the next DD and do a bit better by learning from our mistakes. And even when we are not perfect, we dont have to dump the whole thing and give up. Caramel, you are clearly in there for the long haul so dont fret over half a MickeyD--just think of all the stuff you DIDNT eat and pat yourself on the back!

This is a DD for me. I am having coffee with some half and half and will not eat again then until time for dinner, but will drink lots of water in between, and if I get peckish before dinner will have a good old hard boiled egg. Dinner will be some kind of lean meat to be named later and a salad.

Have a good day everyone and dont forget to send out some loving thoughts to Shunsweets and EmandM who are facing some very serious health worries in their families.

[maizenbluebabe]

Originally Posted by retroworx

Don't admire me -- it's really coming down to survival. I'm a complete headcase when I see the scale not responding or going up for no reason. Then I can't stick to my resolve, which doesn't manifest as binging per se but as leaping willy-nilly from plan to plan.

I agree that Michelle's case of being undermedicated for her thyroid is all too common. Once I read the epic thyroid thread by Pam here on LCF I realized that my numbers indicated treatment tho my PCP did not. I've had to go to a self-pay homeopathic MD to get my Armour treatment. I am currently on 2 grains and still completely exhausted, fall asleep while driving, etc. We are still titrating up, based on FT3 numbers (not relying on just TSH) so we shall see. I have anemia (with a Ferritin of 3, which is almost as low as you can go) which is complicating my thyroid treatment somewhat and obviously contributing to my low energy levels.

Gee, any wonder my metabolism isn't peppy?

Retro, it would make me--or anyone else--frantic to deal with the health problems you are juggling, so my heart goes out to you and other thyroid sufferers who are trying bravely and determinedly to balance so many aspects of their lives and their whole health.

Right now it sounds like your metabolism is really struggling against a lot of odds, so the weightloss may be a very uphill battle these days and you may not see the results you want. Just try to be patient with yourself as your docs try to figure out the best meds for you and the best dosages.

And in the meantime, if this plan isnt too hard for you to follow, see if you can give it at least a month of pretty regular effort and see if the overall trend is a bit downward. If it is, even a little bit, you will know that you have found something that is at least some help, and losing even a bit, or not gaining, is a small victory, but it is a victory. and

[EmandM]

Hi ladies! Today is an UD for me (day 1 of weekend birthday parties)! I am doing really well. I am so glad to be back on track. I lost another pound, so that's 2 of the 3 pound weight gain gone already! Yay! Yesterday I was hungrier than usual on a DD but it was my first real DD in awhile so I think that is why. I stayed under 300 calories and the hunger went away. I even watched The Food Network's Diners, Drive-ins and Dives. Anyone ever seen that? They showcase some of the best dive-type foods in America. DH loves that show and it didn't bother me to watch it.

Another good tip I thought of is to have a supportive family if you can! I know we can't control that but it's very helpful. DH has agreed that on my DD's he will not bring home or cook any foods that I love. Yesterday he and the kids had ribs form a take out place. I don't eat ribs so it wasn't a temptation for me at all (even though they came with fries, I didn't even want one bite). Now if he had brought home donuts or something he would have been in trouble! lol

I decided that today I will have an UD as planned. For tomorrow's party I will go into it trying to keep my DD if I can (if it's buffet style I can easily do that). But if my SIL in serving us something I will have to eat but I will try and keep the cals as low as I can.

Have a great day Judddlets!

[caramel]

Hello Everyone,
Made it through yesterday with the 524 calories. Whew, surprisingly I wasn't very hungry this morning my breakfast consisted of half low carb tortilla, breakfast sausage, and coffe with splenda and creamer= 200 cal. I'm trying to keep cal. low this a.m. because I'm going to a luncheon this afternoon. I'll try to stay away from too many carbs because here ate home I have a low carb red velvet cake if I want some sweets. Maizenbluebabe yes I did sin yesterday with the Mac attack:blush: I think that thing was in my fingers and down my throat in about 2.5 seconds, and the minute I ate it I knew I would regret it so all please learn from my mistakes but as Maizenblue babe so wisely said you can start all over again. That is the beauty in this woe. Well guys hope you check in and share this morning.

[LYNN8498]

Yesterday was my DD and I finished it off at 510 cals...this took a lot of work, probably bc it was my first day on the diet! Today, I do not want to eat all of the 1900 cals that I can...I will feel as if I am banishing all the good that I did yesterday...

[trace4sewing]

morning yall. just checking in. Not sure what day of JUDD this is for me but I do know that it is "day 2" of the horrible 7 days preceding my TOM. I dont know about yall,but it seems that the older i get (39 this year) the worse that week has become. Not so much mood swings,but horrible headaches,joint pain,water retention,nightmares,an insatiable hunger,sleep problems. Its almost to the point where life is being interrupted a week out of every month . I tried to talk to my GYN about it at my check up last year and shr quickly wrote me a prescription for prozac and ushered me out of there! I have an apt. for this years check up at the end of the month and there has got to be something that can be done just for the physical symptoms only when I need it,instead of taking an antidepressent every day of my life. Im not depressed. Sorry for the rant.

You guys keep on trucking,I am motivated every day by yall. Tracey

[shunsweets]

Hi everybody. DD for me and for the first time in a long time I'm feeling hungry. Maybe because I jogged 4 miles early this morning or maybe because I'm not at work. Anyway I'm taking tonights planned dinner and going to eat half now for lunch and the other half at dinnertime and hope that sees me through. Just shows I shouldn't get too over confident that DD is easy - today it's a bit of a struggle.

Caramel I think you did great. I don't think I could have stopped at half a big mac! 524 is a sucessful DD so good for you.

EmandM Hope the party is fun. I know what you mean about having to eat when served something. People's feelings are more important than diet. Lets hope it's buffet. Wow 2 pounds down this week already - you're body is working with this diet!

Maizen Hope your DD is going well. You are so strong that I know you will do well - be it DD or UD.

Hi to all the newbies. Be sure to eat if it's UD and hang in there if it's DD. We're all in this together!

[retroworx]

Originally Posted by maizenbluebabe

Retro, it would make me--or anyone else--frantic to deal with the health problems you are juggling, so my heart goes out to you and other thyroid sufferers who are trying bravely and determinedly to balance so many aspects of their lives and their whole health.

Right now it sounds like your metabolism is really struggling against a lot of odds, so the weightloss may be a very uphill battle these days and you may not see the results you want. Just try to be patient with yourself as your docs try to figure out the best meds for you and the best dosages.

And in the meantime, if this plan isnt too hard for you to follow, see if you can give it at least a month of pretty regular effort and see if the overall trend is a bit downward. If it is, even a little bit, you will know that you have found something that is at least some help, and losing even a bit, or not gaining, is a small victory, but it is a victory. and

Thanks for the support, MBB!

I know that my health issues aren't epic or as serious as many people's, so I'm at least able to keep that in perspective -- I think of myself as a car that needs a tune-up (as well as a new paint job ) rather than a total wreck.

[OceanDreaming]

[COLOR="Blue"]Morning everyone! I weighed this morning even though it was after an UD (I weigh every morning and have been used to seeing the same 5 pounds up and down for the last several MONTHS) and I'm down 4 pounds since I started on the 30th. This will be the true test as I am now at 214 which I haven't been below since last summer. I was probably up so much after my last DD because I have been drinking chicken bouillon which has quite a bit of sodium in it. But I'm drinking tons of free water in the form of iced tea so I'm not worried about the salt.

Today is DD #3 for me! So far so good. I made some chicken broth this morning and just stuck some homemade jello in the fridge for later. I work tonight so I'll probably have my protein shake before work and take one with me to drink tonight.

My UD was great! Had pizza and salad for dinner last night and was full after a fraction of what I'd usually eat. Everything sure tastes so much better after "starving" for a day! Interestingly, I'm not really craving sweets like I normally do. Has anyone else noticed that?

I was wondering, has anyone done two DD in a row in anticipation of two UD in a row? Just curious. I wonder if two DD in a row is too much.

Tracey, I was having terrible TOM issues too and yes I felt it was getting worse as I got older (I'm 37). I have started taking some of the supplements that Julia Ross suggests in "The Diet Cure" and I swear it's helped 100%. My poor DH appreciates it too.

Retro~I hope you get fine tuned soon. I can't imagine having to eat 800 calories per day. That's insane and downright depressing.

Keep up the good work everyone. I'm enjoying sharing the ups and downs with everyone. I think everyone is doing great![/COLOR]

[Leo41]

Angie-

All I know is what I've read on Dr. J's website, but he cautions against two DDs in a row. Apparently it is not good for the science behind the diet--perhaps it stresses the body too much? He says that two UDs is OK if you need to do that, but not two DDs.

By the way, he also stresses weighing after DDs ONLY, but I've read that it actually takes the body at least 24 hours to process any change based on eating. I realize that weighing after an UD might give a higher than normal reading because of sodium, etc., but it seems to me that we should avoid the practice of weighing after EVERY DD, which is a real temptation for me, since I'm trying to see if this plan is "working" for me.

So I've vowed to weigh ONLY once a week--either Saturday or Sunday, whichever one follows a DD. If this plan seems to be working, I hope I can switch to weighing once a month because unlike others who can use regular weighing to track progress, I tend to get depressed if the numbers don't move fast enough, and keeping to once a month helps me focus on good eating practices and away from the numbers.

[OceanDreaming]

Originally Posted by Leo41

Angie-

All I know is what I've read on Dr. J's website, but he cautions against two DDs in a row. Apparently it is not good for the science behind the diet--perhaps it stresses the body too much? He says that two UDs is OK if you need to do that, but not two DDs.

By the way, he also stresses weighing after DDs ONLY, but I've read that it actually takes the body at least 24 hours to process any change based on eating. I realize that weighing after an UD might give a higher than normal reading because of sodium, etc., but it seems to me that we should avoid the practice of weighing after EVERY DD, which is a real temptation for me, since I'm trying to see if this plan is "working" for me.

So I've vowed to weigh ONLY once a week--either Saturday or Sunday, whichever one follows a DD. If this plan seems to be working, I hope I can switch to weighing once a month because unlike others who can use regular weighing to track progress, I tend to get depressed if the numbers don't move fast enough, and keeping to once a month helps me focus on good eating practices and away from the numbers.

Thanks for the input. I thought two DD might be too much but I was curious. As for weighing, I know he suggests only after a DD but I have been weighing every day for so long it doesn't even phase me. I'm just used to seeing anywhere from 214-218. Actually, I had a 213 one fleeting day a few weeks ago, sigh...

[OceanDreaming]

Dr. Eades blogged about intermittent fasting a couple of years ago. Interesting to me as I follow Protein Power principles (as a general rule).

Fast way to better health | The Blog of Michael R. Eades, M.D.

[Debbi]

I survived my first DD yesterday although I did eat 500 cals - I will do better Sunday!!
So far I have lost 1.4 lbs - 1lb after my DD this am.
Exercise was good today - lots of cardio and walked around the Mall too....I went into Borders and they had Dr. Johnson's book - in it he says the purpose of the calculator is to figure out your down day calories and you should try to stick with whatever percentage you choose for those days. The calories on the Up days do not need to be met there is no High caloric amount - just do not exceed yours and make sure the difference in cals between the DD and UD is sufficient to promote good health and weight loss and keep you on the diet. Good news for me because I really do not believe I will make the 1922 on my UD - I can get to 1500 but not much more than that.

NSS and Leo41 - I thought I had a thyroid problem as well but I had a complete Thyroid work up as recommended by Nonstickpam and I am normal - my issue is Menopause. My gyno said in order for me to lose 1lb per week I cannot exceed 800 cals per day and I must do 30 min of cardio per day based on my age and menopause. I intend to prove her wrong - I cannot exist on an 800 cal diet every day - so I am hoping this diet is the trick!! My Internist did find I was deficient in Vit D and we are taking care of that. She also convinced me to give the hormone patches prescribed by the gyno a try - and I did and I am so sorry that I did not use them right away. I have absolutely no night sweats or hot flashes (I was having 50 per day). I have had no weight gain from using them and in fact, I was having an accumulation of fat around my waist/belly which is really unusual for me because I am pear shaped and now that fat has left my belly area and I am pear shaped again and feel a lot more comfortable.

I did learn from my DD that I need to wait as long as possible to eat and I need to eat higher protein. Sunday I will try to have at least two shakes for the day.

I had a great breakfast this am - fage 2% yogurt - 1 full cup w/1T peanut butter/dash cinn./1 tsp shredded natural coconut/1T vanilla protein powder - it was really good and filling- it is almost 3pm here and I am just now getting hungry so we will most likely go to Chillis and I will get either a salad or burger - no bun!! Coffeew/creamer when I get home and either sugar free pudding or WW Eclair or Breyer's carb smart ice cream bar. I figure I will get to about 1500 cals today and I will NOT weigh tomorrow. Sunday is my next DD so I will weigh Monday.

I feel like I have a lot of energy and I slept pretty good last night - so, so far so good - I am happy with JUDD!!

Everyone sound like they are doing great - have a wonderful rest of the week end everybody!!

[maizenbluebabe]

Several people have asked about doing two DD"s in a row if you had two Updays in a row accidently. Here's how I handle an UpDay followed by a day where I dont do a true DD because for some reason I have gone above my usual 500 calorie "ceiling"

If I havent gone a lot over my ceiling, I will do a DownDay the next day and then go to an UpDay the day following. In other words, if I goof on a DownDay, I try my best to turn it into a "moderate" day so that I can do a true DD the very next day and not do myself out of a DD. But if I really fall of the wagon by a lot of calories, then I count that failed attempt at doing a DD as an unplanned UPDay and go right to a DownDay the next day anyhow. But I never try to make up for a "skipped" DownDay by doing two in a row.

On the original old JUDDD forum I belonged to where there were so many experienced and successful followers of this plan, they constantly advised against two DownDays in a row no matter what, and said it was less destructive to do two UpDays in a row if that is where you find yourself. But warned that two consecutive DownDays will send your metabolism toward starvation mode and it will begin to hoard all your fat.

I was on this plan for 4-5 months in 2007 and lost 18 pounds pretty painlessly even though I wasnt always able to adhere strictly to fasting on alternate days. After getting lazy and dropping out, I only gained back 7-8 pounds over the past year and a half and am now ready to use it fulltime as a true WOL and get down to my goal which is now only about 20 pounds away.

I always hark back to that dead-and-gone JUDDD forum and respect what the members said because many of them had been following the plan long enough to lose 40-50 ppounds and several had lost 70 pounds or more and one woman had lost 120 pounds on it and maintained over the six month period that I "knew" her there. . Several posters were diabetic or had thyroid issues. They KNEW what worked for them and their success was enough to convince me that they were on the right track. And it is why I am back at it more determined than ever.

[mac24312]

Hi all!

Before I started LC I lost about 40 lbs on JUDDD...I am thinking about starting it again to maintain what I have lost so far..I am where I want to be right now but I like the freedom of the UP Days and Down Day of this...

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HUGS!

[EmandM]

Hi ladies!

Maizenblue - thanks for the support and thinking of me and shunsweets! My emotional state has been a lot better, perhaps because I am getting closer to my mammo app.

Shunsweets - I feel hungrier on the DD's when I am at home opposed to work too. Add your running and that would explain it! Were you hungrier after you ate half your meal?

Mac - I love this woe and I am glad it worked for you. It is so liberating and I actually look forward to DD's oddly enough!

Debbi - thanks so much for that info from the book. I always worry about consuming all of my UD calories. It makes sense to me to make sure you don't restrict calories too much on UD's in order to stay out of starvation mode. But did the book tell you how you calculate that amount? For example, if your UD cals are 1900 (as I think you said yours are) than is 1500 ok on your UD's but 1400 will send you into starvation mode? Does anyone know how close to the UD calories we should stick to?

Oncerdreaming - thanks for that link. I had also read that two DD's isn't good as it defeats the purpose of tricking our bodies from thinking they are starving. In the past I have tried to keep low calorie if I have two UD's in a row (one of the days will be low call or moderate) but they usually turn into UD's and I try to forgive myself and move on to my next DD asap.

Leo - thanks for the info about weighing. I usually don't weigh myself after an UD. Too depressing! lol I did on Jan 1st because I wanted to know what I weighed as a starting point. I say I will only weigh once a week, but I always weigh the day after a DD!

I did well at the party today. I had some fruit and veggies this morning. Oddly enough I wasn't even hungry when I woke up this morning! Then when I got to the party I had 2 slices of vegetarian pizza and some birthday cake (my slice and some of my DD's - occupational hazzard being a mum and all)! Then I had 100 cals of popcorn tonight as a snack. No clue how many calories that is, as the cake was one of those grocery store vanilla cakes with the really sweet icing (my favourite). I felt my tummy had shrunk and I didn't eat as much cake as I normally do. Normally I would have a huge piece or two pieces but today I had a small piece and only a couple of bites of my DD's. I have read that fasting helps conquer cravings. Let's hope so!

[maizenbluebabe]

Originally Posted by mac24312

Hi all!

Before I started LC I lost about 40 lbs on JUDDD...I am thinking about starting it again to maintain what I have lost so far..I am where I want to be right now but I like the freedom of the UP Days and Down Day of this...

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HUGS!

Thanks, Mac24312--THIS is what I have been trying to say, but havent said very well so far and you have said it very clearly and so I will chime in here:

YES! One main reason I dont struggle on my DD's is because I almost ALWAYS eat really really LC on a DownDay. (And usually on an UpDay,too.)

I swear that the reason I have no craves or fatigue or hunger on my DD's is because I am eating almost all protein, some fat, and almost NO carbs! For me at least, it is the combination of these two plans that is making this work so well.

[retroworx]

Originally Posted by OceanDreaming

Retro~I hope you get fine tuned soon. I can't imagine having to eat 800 calories per day. That's insane and downright depressing.

I posted my dinner to another forum yesterday -- it was something like turnips and Shirataki noodles. I felt like Oliver Twist.

[retroworx]

Originally Posted by Debbi

I feel like I have a lot of energy and I slept pretty good last night - so, so far so good - I am happy with JUDD!!

Debbi:

I read thru your diary/log -- thanks for sharing your struggles and hope JUDDD is the ticket for you.

[OceanDreaming]

Originally Posted by mac24312

Hi all!

Before I started LC I lost about 40 lbs on JUDDD...I am thinking about starting it again to maintain what I have lost so far..I am where I want to be right now but I like the freedom of the UP Days and Down Day of this...

Subbing...

HUGS!

[OceanDreaming]

Originally Posted by EmandM

. I have read that fasting helps conquer cravings. Let's hope so!

It's working for me. I thought I would want to eat everything in sight on my UD but it just isn't so. My sweet cravings have seriously diminished as well. It's quite amazing. Not that I don't thoroughly enjoy my UD because I DO!