JohnsonAlternateDayDiet/JUDDD Jan 2009 - Page 13

kater422 · 01-13-2009, 06:14 AM

For those of you that exercise, do you exercise on your DD or UP? Does it matter?

Thanks!

Kate

jgw · 01-13-2009, 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by kater422

For those of you that exercise, do you exercise on your DD or UP? Does it matter?

Thanks!

Kate

Today's is my up day and I will do my T-Tapp this evening.

dae_tona · 01-13-2009, 06:44 AM

I have read this thread with great interest and think this might be the answer to one of my relative's problem. They always have a hard time sticking to anything & I think this might be the answer for them to get on their way & drop some poundage.

Waiting also for an answer in regards to the exercise.

Dyan

maizenbluebabe · 01-13-2009, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by kater422

For those of you that exercise, do you exercise on your DD or UP? Does it matter?

Thanks!

Kate

Kate--sometimes people just starting out have to take time to get adjusted to their DownDays before they can exercise--particularly if they do strenuous work-outs. But others never have a problem with this. Dr Johnson (and others including Atkins) say that exercise is an important component of achieving good health. On a JUDDD forum I belonged to several years ago, the regular exercisers just kept on keeping on.

For me, it has never mattered because I dont do very demanding exercise. Now that I have a treadmill again, I just walk at 3 MPH on that for 40 min. to an hour and it never has bothered me on a DD to do that.

You will probably find that this is one of those YMMV things and also depends on how out of shape someone is or how heavy they might be.

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Originally Posted by caramel

Hello everyone
And a special

Kater, JGW, Kate, Zer, GrammyPat and James
and again you may not be new to this board but because
I don't post often you are new to me so hello. I don't
usually post on the weekends but I try to faithfully
stay on plan. Had to go back and read some posts and boy has everyone
been busy.

ravae it is a womans perogative to change her mind and boy did I
through the Christmas holiday, I was making and changing dates with this
woe for special occasions and still lost over the holidays. The Flexibility of
this plan is going to give me staying power.

Donia great news on your loss! I know that it can be a real motivator

EmandM congratulations on your loss also and I also feel a since of starting
over and it also alows me to gain control of my eating habits it like every DD
gets easier as mentally I get stronger over my food addictions.

Ilpirata I know what you mean about the water and today is a DD for me
(hopefuly a water fast it I make it) so lets stay strong together.

Leo you are such a wealth of information and I am learning so much from
you great job on your success on this woe.

Debbi great job on your UD yesterday and excersise. It's hard for me to
incorporate excersise on the weekends but I think I'm going to have to try.

Skeeweeaka I'm glad to hear you had a great weekend.

Mammapo I gained a poud after about week 3 and their were some on this
board that suggested vitamin c as it will flush you and of course drinking
plenty of water and I also starting weighing in at weekly intervals while
staying strictly on plan and after a week 2.8 pounds came off so I hope this
will help.

Maizenbluebabe you are such the encourager, what would we do without
you?

AHA--there you are, Caramel!

I know you lead a busy life but always miss you when you dont have time to join in. It sounds like you are doing wonderfully and this is another great, and encouraging post from you--which is why I always look forward to seeing you here!

Yes, we've got lots of new members while you've been busy, but no one will ever take your place--we just add new ones and make room in our hearts for them, too.

EmandM · 01-13-2009, 07:30 AM

Kate - congrats on your DD. they get even easier so you are right on track! As for exercise, I know Shunsweets runs on her DD's. I exercise 5-6 days a week so I exercise on both UD and DD's. What I have found for me is if I work out early in the day on a DD it's better for me mentally as it sets the tone for my day. Sometimes I find at the end of the DD I don't have enough energy, but once I get started the energy is there. Since I hate getting up in the mornings I work out at night and then one morning each weekend. Oh, and I run 2-3 times and the rest is pilates or yoga, so those are easier to do at night after a DD. Did my rambling make any sense? lol

Grammypat - do you find it as amazing as I do that we look forward to DD's now? When I first started this I loathed them, but after my third I was happy each DD!

Jgw - that is another thing I find too. I expect to wake up ravenous after a DD but I'm not. Go figure!

Yesterday's UD was way over my allotted calories! We had Wendy's for dinner (chicken fingers and french fries - yum). But this morning I paid for it on the scale with a 1.5 pound gain! Yikes! But kinda worth it! lol Anyway, I am not stressing because I am still down from where I was at the start of last week, and I have 2 more DD's to go before weighing. I weigh everyday and then I average from week to week to see how much I am losing. I can't let go of my love/hate relationship with my scale!

This morning one of my DD's was up at 4:50 am crying! They NEVER do this, I have great sleepers and when I go in to get them for daycare at 7:20 they are usually sound asleep. Anyway, DH went in and soothed them and rocked them and I could hear one whimper "I need my mom I scared" but I didn't go in because he was doing so well! A few minutes later they were sound asleep. They just wanted the hall light turned back on (they fall asleep with it on but we turn it off when they are asleep). My DH is a keeper!

Zer · 01-13-2009, 07:46 AM

Still lurking, listening, considering the benefit of following a 48hr eating plan, as I consider this Alternate-Day protocol to be one that my body will like a lot better than trying to eat a full quota of protein grams daily. So tired of eating! Now I am caught up in who works out on lean days (DD) and who finds that UD are better for working out.

I'm doing some small stretching and plan on adding more Pilates bedwork to strengthen legs that are not quite up to carrying me in a dance routine - yet. Pilates began as bed exercises for recuperating veterans - and grew into a dancer's fierce workout. So I stretch, curl toes, pull toes back toward me. Slow work.

Someday I shall perhaps be able to do a Zumba workout! Zumba? Ah, a vigorous Latin rhythm. Saw infomercial and fell madly for Zumba - or maybe for Alberto Perez, the choreographer!

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“We utilize the principles of fitness interval training and resistance training to maximize caloric output, fat burning, and total body toning. It’s a way of mixing body sculpting movements with easy-to-follow dance steps,” says creator Beto Perez. “It’s fun and addictive.”

Addictive? What a healthy addiction! Any Zumba fans here?

Ilpirata · 01-13-2009, 08:30 AM

Yesterday. Failed on the DD. I guess this would be considered medium? I'm still up in weight and I think I let that get me down and decided to just eat my hunger. Stoopid.

RESULTS:

Calories 1,062
Fat 66.1 580 55 %
Carbohydrate 41.5 162 15 %
Dietary Fiber 12.7
Protein 77.8 317 30 %
Alcohol 0.0 0 0 %

Yeah, clearly not a DD. I'm doing UD today and then hoping to get back on track with a REAL DD on Wednesday. I'm going to do my darndest to stay off the scale for at least a week too. I'm pretty sure I'm just retaining water as my ring is WAY TOO TIGHT. Get back on track, get this water out...

I've also been forgetting to take my afternoon Armour! Not good for me.

Leo41 · 01-13-2009, 09:30 AM

Kisha-

I'm always forgetting my second dose of Cytomel, too! By the way, when I have 1,000 cal, I consider it a "moderate" day--sometimes on the weekend, my DD gets ambushed like that:-) AND I think your fingers are telling you that this is water weight--so don't be despondent. I tend to retain fluid, and I can always tell by how my rings fit. Just keep on truckin' and it will all go away eventually.

Ilpirata · 01-13-2009, 09:37 AM

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I'm always forgetting my second dose of Cytomel, too! By the way, when I have 1,000 cal, I consider it a "moderate" day--sometimes on the weekend, my DD gets ambushed like that:-) AND I think your fingers are telling you that this is water weight--so don't be despondent. I tend to retain fluid, and I can always tell by how my rings fit. Just keep on truckin' and it will all go away eventually.

Thanks Leo! I'm going to try to drink up my water and watch the salt... it IS water. I KNOW IT.

Quandria · 01-13-2009, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by kater422

For those of you that exercise, do you exercise on your DD or UP? Does it matter?

Thanks!

Kate

Hiya Kate,

I exercise on my down days. That's partially because I think it helps totally clear the glycogen stored in my muscles and liver. The other reason is that I like to concentrate my "dieting" efforts to a single day - which in my case is Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays. I also try to do a little weight training on Thursdays and Sundays, mostly just arms since I get the lower body workout on the treadmill on down days.

There is probably an equally strong argument for exercising on up days instead (or in addition), since you have more fuel on those days to sustain you on the workout. Some people also think that working out when you haven't eaten, or haven't eaten much, makes it more likely that your body will use your muscles to fuel the workout rather than using fat. I don't know much about that, just know what works for me

EmandM · 01-13-2009, 12:44 PM

Hi all!

Ilpirata - I'd say you had a moderate day. I had to include those a couple of weeks ago when I was trying to switch things up to adhere to social situations. I think your plan to do an UD tomorrow is great. You are only a day away from getting right back on track.

Today is DD for me and so far I have had coffee, green tea and herbal chai tea. It is 4 and my tummy just growled for the first time, but not in a NEED.FOOD.NOW kind of way so I will hold off a little longer. I keep trying to do a water fast on my DD's but I always end up having a bag of 100 calorie popcorn (at the very least, most DD's I have fruits and veg too). I think I just like to eat something on DD's even when I'm not hungry.

Have a great day judddlets!

donia · 01-13-2009, 12:55 PM

Here I am after my first week back to JUDDD. I'm very happy to have lost the 7 pounds and looking forward to yet another week. Good luck to everyone just starting and keep it up all of you veterans!

jgw · 01-13-2009, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by donia

Here I am after my first week back to JUDDD. I'm very happy to have lost the 7 pounds and looking forward to yet another week. Good luck to everyone just starting and keep it up all of you veterans!

WTG! Donia!

Quandria · 01-13-2009, 01:09 PM

Yesterday was supposed to be a water fast for me, but I ended up having dinner for 270 calories. Skipped the workout because I was doing laundry and packing for my trip. The scale was down 1.8 for me this morning, down 4.6 since the beginning of January.

Sorry, I missed the whole conversation the other day about whether "starvation mode" is a myth or not. I don't think it's a myth. I do think you can still lose weight when in starvation mode, but it's more difficult. I also think the studies don't exactly relate to the situation most of us are in, since as far as I can tell the participants weren't overweight to start and certainly hadn't spent many years/decades doing one form of dieting or another as most of us have. We've spent all these years proving to our bodies that food can be scarce, so I think a dieter's body is more likely to try to hold on to fat than someone who has provided a steady predictable number of calories daily for their entire lives.

I also think most dieters grossly underestimate the number of calories they eat. So some people who think they are stalled in starvation mode are likely victims of a much higher calorie count than what they have calculated. So it's definitely hard to tell!

There's some really interesting information on how our bodies process calories in Wendy Chant's book, Crack the Fat Loss Code. The first few chapters are available at Google Books (search for google books, then type in the title in the search bar there) to read online for free. She's a firm believer in eating every few hours, but I think alternate day dieting fits in with her science because we're creating a calorie deficit without alerting our bodies that there's anything wrong (because of the higher up day calories).

jgw · 01-13-2009, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Quandria

Yesterday was supposed to be a water fast for me, but I ended up having dinner for 270 calories. Skipped the workout because I was doing laundry and packing for my trip. The scale was down 1.8 for me this morning, down 4.6 since the beginning of January.

Sorry, I missed the whole conversation the other day about whether "starvation mode" is a myth or not. I don't think it's a myth. I do think you can still lose weight when in starvation mode, but it's more difficult. I also think the studies don't exactly relate to the situation most of us are in, since as far as I can tell the participants weren't overweight to start and certainly hadn't spent many years/decades doing one form of dieting or another as most of us have. We've spent all these years proving to our bodies that food can be scarce, so I think a dieter's body is more likely to try to hold on to fat than someone who has provided a steady predictable number of calories daily for their entire lives.

I also think most dieters grossly underestimate the number of calories they eat. So some people who think they are stalled in starvation mode are likely victims of a much higher calorie count than what they have calculated. So it's definitely hard to tell!

There's some really interesting information on how our bodies process calories in Wendy Chant's book, Crack the Fat Loss Code. The first few chapters are available at Google Books (search for google books, then type in the title in the search bar there) to read online for free. She's a firm believer in eating every few hours, but I think alternate day dieting fits in with her science because we're creating a calorie deficit without alerting our bodies that there's anything wrong (because of the higher up day calories).

Thanks for the info.

shunsweets · 01-13-2009, 02:35 PM

Welcomejgw and kater Always nice to greet new JUDDDies!

leo41 Thanks for the stress/blood sugar connection story. I can tell they are connected for me but it was nice to hear it confirmed. Your DD meals sound good. I can't do any grains so the GG's are out but I have some Syntraz protein I haven't used. Maybe I'll give it a try.

Caramel So glad you're doing well.

Quandria I love the eat healthy things first on UD idea. I, too, sometimes eat a treat (nuts) prior to a good meal. Think I'll try for the proteins and fats first and save the nuts or dairy for dessert. So simple, but so smart!

Emandm You're lucky your twins are such good sleepers. When my dear granddaughters sleep over they have us up at least 3 times a night. My daughter says neither one ever sleeps through the night - no wonder she is so tired! She has her ultrasound for this pregnancy on Fri and then we'll know that all is well and the sex of the baby. So exciting. I'm getting together with her and the kids for the day Thurs. We'll go out for lunch - another blown DD but wow I can't wait to see them! Good for you still losing. I was down another pound this week too. Only 2 to go so I'm basically in maintenance mode.

Maizen Good for you with the treadmill. I don't always do strenuous walks either. Sometimes it's just as good for me to be reflective and just moving. 3MPH is a good pace though - certainly not a stroll! Do you feel any benefit from the exercise. I always feel great and much calmer too after exercise. Today I walked 2 miles, yesterday I jogged 2.5. Can't seem to find the time for my full 4 miler yet but I'll get one in somewhere.

I know that I can't do a water fast. Don't like water. But I did do all meat for UD yesterday to get my BGL's stable. Always works but I feel deprived and want to avoid that or I'll go on a binge for sure. Can hardly wait till UD tomorrow so I can have some dairy and nuts!

Hope everybody is happy and healthy.

Leo41 · 01-13-2009, 03:20 PM

I just bought the book because although I know that everything necessary is on the website, I wanted to give Dr. J some royalties for developing this plan!

I was just browsing in it and learned something useful. He writes that it's important to drink a lot of fluids on DDs to avoid dehydration because without eating many people don't get the right signals for thirst, especially "older" people--i.e., ME!

Since I rely on my hot tea (at least in winter) to help me through the DDs, it's nice to know that there's another reason for drinking a lot other than to assuage hunger. I have always had my tea "plain"--no sweetener, cream, or even lemon, so it's a real zero calorie treat for me.

I also like unsweetened iced tea, so that should work for me in the summer when I prefer drinking cold stuff. See, I'm looking forward to JUDDD long term!

maizenbluebabe · 01-13-2009, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by mammapo

GOodness, I'm not giving up after one week! That would be insanity. I believe you've got to give a diet a full 12 weeks to make a determination. So I'm here, for better or worse, for another 11.

I saved all my calories for tonight's dinner (DD) so I'll be having a burger (no bun ,no ketchup etc, yes tomato yes lettuce) and 10 french fries. Total for the day: 386 calories = 20% JUDDDRDA

I'm going to reduce my UDs to 1600 calories and see if that helps. I really do okay until I try to cram that last 300 calories in, so I'm guessing that I actually don't need it.

Mamapo--your words of wisdom about giving a diet a fair chance are sure to help many of us who might be disappointed after some bad scale news--12 weeks is really a good target to shoot for when trying a WOE. I will remember your words of good advice next time the scale sticks its tongue out at me while I am standing there naked and cold in the morning chill, feeling vulnerable while peering at the dial and feeling p*ssed off at myself and the scale.

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Originally Posted by shunsweets

Welcomejgw and kater Always nice to greet new JUDDDies!

leo41 Thanks for the stress/blood sugar connection story. I can tell they are connected for me but it was nice to hear it confirmed. Your DD meals sound good. I can't do any grains so the GG's are out but I have some Syntraz protein I haven't used. Maybe I'll give it a try.

Caramel So glad you're doing well.

Quandria I love the eat healthy things first on UD idea. I, too, sometimes eat a treat (nuts) prior to a good meal. Think I'll try for the proteins and fats first and save the nuts or dairy for dessert. So simple, but so smart!

Emandm You're lucky your twins are such good sleepers. When my dear granddaughters sleep over they have us up at least 3 times a night. My daughter says neither one ever sleeps through the night - no wonder she is so tired! She has her ultrasound for this pregnancy on Fri and then we'll know that all is well and the sex of the baby. So exciting. I'm getting together with her and the kids for the day Thurs. We'll go out for lunch - another blown DD but wow I can't wait to see them! Good for you still losing. I was down another pound this week too. Only 2 to go so I'm basically in maintenance mode.

Maizen Good for you with the treadmill. I don't always do strenuous walks either. Sometimes it's just as good for me to be reflective and just moving. 3MPH is a good pace though - certainly not a stroll! Do you feel any benefit from the exercise. I always feel great and much calmer too after exercise. Today I walked 2 miles, yesterday I jogged 2.5. Can't seem to find the time for my full 4 miler yet but I'll get one in somewhere.

I know that I can't do a water fast. Don't like water. But I did do all meat for UD yesterday to get my BGL's stable. Always works but I feel deprived and want to avoid that or I'll go on a binge for sure. Can hardly wait till UD tomorrow so I can have some dairy and nuts!

Hope everybody is happy and healthy.

Hi Shunsweets Yes, I DO feel results from my treadmill time. And yes, that 3MPH is what helped me lose 20 pounds! in two months a couple years ago while I was doing LC and just eating really clean. And I had awesome energy and never depressed. That is why I just knew that a treamill was the way for me to go. And they say that for actual steady weight loss, it is better to just pick a decent "rate of speed" and just keep at it. Later, for my cardio, I will do some sprints after I start walking in our nearby park again.

Oh, Donia, what super news! You are so awesome and inspiring!

I know it must be really a challenge sometimes, but you are doing great. And ya know what--for now, just ignore that extra skin and try to concentrate on how wonderful the INSIDE of your body is looking. Later on, you will find a way to get the cosmetic problems out of the way--but you look way younger than you are, so that will help, too.

ZER--YAY! ZUMBA!

Wow! DO tell us more! I love that great beat but just could never commit myself to getting the DVD, but find the music itself fascinating and am still interested in it. So glad you brought it uP again!

This is a DD and all I had all day was coffee with half and half and now I am going to fix myself some sea scallops in white wine and a bit of butter and a tad of salad. Trying hard to keep from undoing my good day here at the last minute.

Ilpirata · 01-13-2009, 03:38 PM

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I was just browsing in it and learned something useful. He writes that it's important to drink a lot of fluids on DDs to avoid dehydration because without eating many people don't get the right signals for thirst, especially "older" people--i.e., ME!

I just saw this interesting Alton Brown show that showed why we don't need to drink tons of water. The premise was that there is alot of water in the foods we eat. So if we are not eating alot of food it stands to reason that we would be missing that water intake. Interestingly though the amount of water we need is aparently tied to the number of calories we consume so when we eat less we need less.

OceanDreaming · 01-13-2009, 04:01 PM

Back to DD today from a two day fling...not good days but I'm back, dang it!

Congratulations to everyone who is hanging in there, whether you have seen a loss yet or not!

OceanDreaming · 01-13-2009, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Ilpirata

Yesterday. Failed on the DD. I guess this would be considered medium? I'm still up in weight and I think I let that get me down and decided to just eat my hunger. Stoopid.

RESULTS:

Calories 1,062
Fat 66.1 580 55 %
Carbohydrate 41.5 162 15 %
Dietary Fiber 12.7
Protein 77.8 317 30 %
Alcohol 0.0 0 0 %

Yeah, clearly not a DD. I'm doing UD today and then hoping to get back on track with a REAL DD on Wednesday. I'm going to do my darndest to stay off the scale for at least a week too. I'm pretty sure I'm just retaining water as my ring is WAY TOO TIGHT. Get back on track, get this water out...

I've also been forgetting to take my afternoon Armour! Not good for me.

You've come a long way and started losing again, don't get discouraged! Get rid of that scale if you must! You are doing great. I too tend to sabotage myself. Don't do it!

maizenbluebabe · 01-13-2009, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Ilpirata

Yesterday. Failed on the DD. I guess this would be considered medium? I'm still up in weight and I think I let that get me down and decided to just eat my hunger. Stoopid.

RESULTS:

Calories 1,062
Fat 66.1 580 55 %
Carbohydrate 41.5 162 15 %
Dietary Fiber 12.7
Protein 77.8 317 30 %
Alcohol 0.0 0 0 %

Yeah, clearly not a DD. I'm doing UD today and then hoping to get back on track with a REAL DD on Wednesday. I'm going to do my darndest to stay off the scale for at least a week too. I'm pretty sure I'm just retaining water as my ring is WAY TOO TIGHT. Get back on track, get this water out...

I've also been forgetting to take my afternoon Armour! Not good for me.

NOW WAIT A MINUTE KISHA-- you are one of the people I respect who convinced me to think positively about the LOA--and you are saying you did something "stoopid"? Uh, uhh.

Let's have none of that--you are a bright creative person and I KNOW you can bring good DownDays into your life, but not by saying you "failed."

You can do it and from the rest of your post, I know you know how. It's just that I dont want you attracting bad stuff to yourself.

Ilpirata · 01-13-2009, 04:40 PM

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Let's have none of that--you are a bright creative person and I KNOW you can bring good DownDays into your life, but not by saying you "failed." You can do it and from the rest of your post, I know you know how. It's just that I dont want you attracting bad stuff to yourself.

OF COURSE you are completely right. I hate how one bad morning on the scale can mess up my joo joo!

Thanks for the reminder girl!

skeeweeaka · 01-13-2009, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by maizenbluebabe

NOW WAIT A MINUTE KISHA-- you are one of the people I respect who convinced me to think positively about the LOA--and you are saying you did something "stoopid"? Uh, uhh.

Let's have none of that--you are a bright creative person and I KNOW you can bring good DownDays into your life, but not by saying you "failed."

You can do it and from the rest of your post, I know you know how. It's just that I dont want you attracting bad stuff to yourself.

LOL.... Thanks Maizen...I needed to hear that too! I'll just hang onto those words and move on!

Tomorrow's a better day!

TJ

kater422 · 01-14-2009, 06:22 AM

Just checking in. Today is my second DD. My UD went fine yesterday. I have been drinking a lot of water and tea. Havn't really had any hunger issues although last night while I was watching TV I noticed that I kept thinking that I should have a bowl of cereal. I talked myself out of it. I went on ****** and logged my food in for the day just to reinforce that I had a great day and that I didn't want to undo that with cereal. And this morning I am patting myself on the back!

Have a good day everyone.

Kate

Debbi · 01-14-2009, 06:33 AM

Couldn't post yesterday - too busy at work....

Kate - I exercise on my UD and DD- doesn't make a difference to me. If my body is too sore or it is already stressed from lack of sleep or real life stress then I won't because I think putting additional stress will just make things worse and my body will revolt and I will gain weight - YMMV.

Zer - I used to do Zumba when it first came out - really fun workout!!

Well, I gained .2 after my DD - yesterday was an UD and I got on the scale and I was .6 down!! Today is another DD - trying protein bars and tuna - will see how that goes....

I have been walking everyday and doing floor legs as well - not too much but just enough to feel good!

Hope everyone has a great day!!

jgw · 01-14-2009, 06:36 AM

Kate and Deb, today is my DD also. I brought a little grilled chicken and some broth today. I'll try to make it until Dinner this evening.
Later!

maizenbluebabe · 01-14-2009, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by kater422

Just checking in. Today is my second DD. My UD went fine yesterday. I have been drinking a lot of water and tea. Havn't really had any hunger issues although last night while I was watching TV I noticed that I kept thinking that I should have a bowl of cereal. I talked myself out of it. I went on ****** and logged my food in for the day just to reinforce that I had a great day and that I didn't want to undo that with cereal. And this morning I am patting myself on the back!

Have a good day everyone.

Kate

it's funny you mention the bowl of cereal as a temptation--my DH often has it as a before-bed snack and it is sooo tempting to me, because he always has the granola stuff with nuts and raisins and lots of carbs and I used to love it.

And when I gave in, I was ALWAYS "up" the next day and hated myself. So like you I have learned to know it's a mistake to even think about A Bowl of Cereal

and it's why I have psyched myself into a frame of mind of saying publicly "I dont eat anything after dinner." and doing my all-out damndest to stick with it

Please let me join you in patting yourself on the back for not undoing your great day!

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Originally Posted by skeeweeaka

LOL....

Tomorrow's a better day!

TJ

you got me thinking with this remark, TJ, and this little sentence is worth a lot in sheer wisdom. With JUDDD, tomorrow can always be a better day in one way or another, especially if we have slipped a bit or not gotten the results we want--we dont have to be discouraged because we know that tomorrow can always be a "better day" if we just hang in there. ( And even if it isnt better in terms of what the scale says, it can still be better in some other important way if we just have faith in ourselves.

)

jgw · 01-14-2009, 06:52 AM

Glad you mention cereal, Have any tried the Special K with chocolate? I was wondering is it worth buying?

Leo41 · 01-14-2009, 07:47 AM

I find that losing the temptation to munch at night is one of the surprising effects of JUDDD for me. In the past, while watching TV, I'd always talk myself into a snack, but I think I changed with my very first DD. When I thought about that snack (behavior always trumps actual hunger), I didn't want to mar my "accomplishment" of 400 cal--which I never thought I'd be able to do. So the idea of a snack vanished instantly. After a month on JUDDD, at the end of my UD last night, the idea of a snack again crossed my mind, and I instantly thought, "But I'm not at all hungry, so there's no point." I think that this woe is actually teaching me to listen to my body--for the first time in my life!

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kater422 Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: California Posts: 797 Gallery: kater422 Stats: 183/167/150 Start Date: 8/3/2009	EXERCISE? For those of you that exercise, do you exercise on your DD or UP? Does it matter? Thanks! Kate

01-13-2009, 08:30 AM	#367
Ilpirata Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 10,061 Gallery: Ilpirata	It WASN'T a DOWN DAY Yesterday. Failed on the DD. I guess this would be considered medium? I'm still up in weight and I think I let that get me down and decided to just eat my hunger. Stoopid. RESULTS: Calories 1,062 Fat 66.1 580 55 % Carbohydrate 41.5 162 15 % Dietary Fiber 12.7 Protein 77.8 317 30 % Alcohol 0.0 0 0 % Yeah, clearly not a DD. I'm doing UD today and then hoping to get back on track with a REAL DD on Wednesday. I'm going to do my darndest to stay off the scale for at least a week too. I'm pretty sure I'm just retaining water as my ring is WAY TOO TIGHT. Get back on track, get this water out... I've also been forgetting to take my afternoon Armour! Not good for me.

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01-13-2009, 06:44 AM	#363
dae_tona MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The Enchanted Desert Posts: 2,316 Gallery: dae_tona Stats: 186/124 5'0 size 2 in misses/sz 7 in juniors WOE: Eating like a thin person Start Date: Feb 2002/Maintaining since May 2004	I have read this thread with great interest and think this might be the answer to one of my relative's problem. They always have a hard time sticking to anything & I think this might be the answer for them to get on their way & drop some poundage. Waiting also for an answer in regards to the exercise. Dyan

01-13-2009, 07:30 AM	#365
EmandM Senior LCF Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 754 Gallery: EmandM Stats: Maintaining at 114 (5'5" 35 yrs) WOE: JUDDD/Whole foods Start Date: JUDDD start date: Nov. '08	Kate - congrats on your DD. they get even easier so you are right on track! As for exercise, I know Shunsweets runs on her DD's. I exercise 5-6 days a week so I exercise on both UD and DD's. What I have found for me is if I work out early in the day on a DD it's better for me mentally as it sets the tone for my day. Sometimes I find at the end of the DD I don't have enough energy, but once I get started the energy is there. Since I hate getting up in the mornings I work out at night and then one morning each weekend. Oh, and I run 2-3 times and the rest is pilates or yoga, so those are easier to do at night after a DD. Did my rambling make any sense? lol Grammypat - do you find it as amazing as I do that we look forward to DD's now? When I first started this I loathed them, but after my third I was happy each DD! Jgw - that is another thing I find too. I expect to wake up ravenous after a DD but I'm not. Go figure! Yesterday's UD was way over my allotted calories! We had Wendy's for dinner (chicken fingers and french fries - yum). But this morning I paid for it on the scale with a 1.5 pound gain! Yikes! But kinda worth it! lol Anyway, I am not stressing because I am still down from where I was at the start of last week, and I have 2 more DD's to go before weighing. I weigh everyday and then I average from week to week to see how much I am losing. I can't let go of my love/hate relationship with my scale! This morning one of my DD's was up at 4:50 am crying! They NEVER do this, I have great sleepers and when I go in to get them for daycare at 7:20 they are usually sound asleep. Anyway, DH went in and soothed them and rocked them and I could hear one whimper "I need my mom I scared" but I didn't go in because he was doing so well! A few minutes later they were sound asleep. They just wanted the hall light turned back on (they fall asleep with it on but we turn it off when they are asleep). My DH is a keeper!

01-13-2009, 09:30 AM	#368
Leo41 Senior LCF member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 8,463 Gallery: Leo41 Stats: 340 then/145 now WOE: Low carb/calorie cycling	Kisha- I'm always forgetting my second dose of Cytomel, too! By the way, when I have 1,000 cal, I consider it a "moderate" day--sometimes on the weekend, my DD gets ambushed like that:-) AND I think your fingers are telling you that this is water weight--so don't be despondent. I tend to retain fluid, and I can always tell by how my rings fit. Just keep on truckin' and it will all go away eventually.

01-13-2009, 12:44 PM	#371
EmandM Senior LCF Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 754 Gallery: EmandM Stats: Maintaining at 114 (5'5" 35 yrs) WOE: JUDDD/Whole foods Start Date: JUDDD start date: Nov. '08	Hi all! Ilpirata - I'd say you had a moderate day. I had to include those a couple of weeks ago when I was trying to switch things up to adhere to social situations. I think your plan to do an UD tomorrow is great. You are only a day away from getting right back on track. Today is DD for me and so far I have had coffee, green tea and herbal chai tea. It is 4 and my tummy just growled for the first time, but not in a NEED.FOOD.NOW kind of way so I will hold off a little longer. I keep trying to do a water fast on my DD's but I always end up having a bag of 100 calorie popcorn (at the very least, most DD's I have fruits and veg too). I think I just like to eat something on DD's even when I'm not hungry. Have a great day judddlets!

01-13-2009, 12:55 PM	#372
donia Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Central Texas Posts: 658 Gallery: donia Stats: (HW 375 in 2004) 320(loaded to 327)/303/250 5'3" WOE: HCG Start Date: January 4th, 2010	Here I am after my first week back to JUDDD. I'm very happy to have lost the 7 pounds and looking forward to yet another week. Good luck to everyone just starting and keep it up all of you veterans!

01-13-2009, 01:09 PM	#374
Quandria Senior LCF Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 554 Gallery: Quandria Stats: Size 16/Size 12-14/Size 10 WOE: JUDDD / Eat Fat get Thin Start Date: January 2011	Yesterday was supposed to be a water fast for me, but I ended up having dinner for 270 calories. Skipped the workout because I was doing laundry and packing for my trip. The scale was down 1.8 for me this morning, down 4.6 since the beginning of January. Sorry, I missed the whole conversation the other day about whether "starvation mode" is a myth or not. I don't think it's a myth. I do think you can still lose weight when in starvation mode, but it's more difficult. I also think the studies don't exactly relate to the situation most of us are in, since as far as I can tell the participants weren't overweight to start and certainly hadn't spent many years/decades doing one form of dieting or another as most of us have. We've spent all these years proving to our bodies that food can be scarce, so I think a dieter's body is more likely to try to hold on to fat than someone who has provided a steady predictable number of calories daily for their entire lives. I also think most dieters grossly underestimate the number of calories they eat. So some people who think they are stalled in starvation mode are likely victims of a much higher calorie count than what they have calculated. So it's definitely hard to tell! There's some really interesting information on how our bodies process calories in Wendy Chant's book, Crack the Fat Loss Code. The first few chapters are available at Google Books (search for google books, then type in the title in the search bar there) to read online for free. She's a firm believer in eating every few hours, but I think alternate day dieting fits in with her science because we're creating a calorie deficit without alerting our bodies that there's anything wrong (because of the higher up day calories).

01-13-2009, 02:35 PM	#376
shunsweets Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 2,083 Gallery: shunsweets Stats: maintenance WOE: Bernstein Start Date: May 2003	Welcomejgw and kater Always nice to greet new JUDDDies! leo41 Thanks for the stress/blood sugar connection story. I can tell they are connected for me but it was nice to hear it confirmed. Your DD meals sound good. I can't do any grains so the GG's are out but I have some Syntraz protein I haven't used. Maybe I'll give it a try. Caramel So glad you're doing well. Quandria I love the eat healthy things first on UD idea. I, too, sometimes eat a treat (nuts) prior to a good meal. Think I'll try for the proteins and fats first and save the nuts or dairy for dessert. So simple, but so smart! Emandm You're lucky your twins are such good sleepers. When my dear granddaughters sleep over they have us up at least 3 times a night. My daughter says neither one ever sleeps through the night - no wonder she is so tired! She has her ultrasound for this pregnancy on Fri and then we'll know that all is well and the sex of the baby. So exciting. I'm getting together with her and the kids for the day Thurs. We'll go out for lunch - another blown DD but wow I can't wait to see them! Good for you still losing. I was down another pound this week too. Only 2 to go so I'm basically in maintenance mode. Maizen Good for you with the treadmill. I don't always do strenuous walks either. Sometimes it's just as good for me to be reflective and just moving. 3MPH is a good pace though - certainly not a stroll! Do you feel any benefit from the exercise. I always feel great and much calmer too after exercise. Today I walked 2 miles, yesterday I jogged 2.5. Can't seem to find the time for my full 4 miler yet but I'll get one in somewhere. I know that I can't do a water fast. Don't like water. But I did do all meat for UD yesterday to get my BGL's stable. Always works but I feel deprived and want to avoid that or I'll go on a binge for sure. Can hardly wait till UD tomorrow so I can have some dairy and nuts! Hope everybody is happy and healthy.

01-13-2009, 03:20 PM	#377
Leo41 Senior LCF member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 8,463 Gallery: Leo41 Stats: 340 then/145 now WOE: Low carb/calorie cycling	I just bought the book because although I know that everything necessary is on the website, I wanted to give Dr. J some royalties for developing this plan! I was just browsing in it and learned something useful. He writes that it's important to drink a lot of fluids on DDs to avoid dehydration because without eating many people don't get the right signals for thirst, especially "older" people--i.e., ME! Since I rely on my hot tea (at least in winter) to help me through the DDs, it's nice to know that there's another reason for drinking a lot other than to assuage hunger. I have always had my tea "plain"--no sweetener, cream, or even lemon, so it's a real zero calorie treat for me. I also like unsweetened iced tea, so that should work for me in the summer when I prefer drinking cold stuff. See, I'm looking forward to JUDDD long term!

01-13-2009, 04:01 PM	#380
OceanDreaming Senior LCF Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Central Oregon Posts: 720 Gallery: OceanDreaming Stats: 250/174/155	Back to DD today from a two day fling...not good days but I'm back, dang it! Congratulations to everyone who is hanging in there, whether you have seen a loss yet or not!

01-14-2009, 06:22 AM	#385
kater422 Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: California Posts: 797 Gallery: kater422 Stats: 183/167/150 Start Date: 8/3/2009	Just checking in. Today is my second DD. My UD went fine yesterday. I have been drinking a lot of water and tea. Havn't really had any hunger issues although last night while I was watching TV I noticed that I kept thinking that I should have a bowl of cereal. I talked myself out of it. I went on ****** and logged my food in for the day just to reinforce that I had a great day and that I didn't want to undo that with cereal. And this morning I am patting myself on the back! Have a good day everyone. Kate

01-14-2009, 06:33 AM	#386
Debbi Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,124 Gallery: Debbi Stats: 297/157/137 WOE: low carb	Couldn't post yesterday - too busy at work.... Kate - I exercise on my UD and DD- doesn't make a difference to me. If my body is too sore or it is already stressed from lack of sleep or real life stress then I won't because I think putting additional stress will just make things worse and my body will revolt and I will gain weight - YMMV. Zer - I used to do Zumba when it first came out - really fun workout!! Well, I gained .2 after my DD - yesterday was an UD and I got on the scale and I was .6 down!! Today is another DD - trying protein bars and tuna - will see how that goes.... I have been walking everyday and doing floor legs as well - not too much but just enough to feel good! Hope everyone has a great day!!

01-14-2009, 06:36 AM	#387
jgw Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The Magnolia State Posts: 5,307 Gallery: jgw Stats: SW229 CW185 GW150 WOE: Low carb Start Date: Everyday!	Kate and Deb, today is my DD also. I brought a little grilled chicken and some broth today. I'll try to make it until Dinner this evening. Later!

01-14-2009, 06:52 AM	#389
jgw Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The Magnolia State Posts: 5,307 Gallery: jgw Stats: SW229 CW185 GW150 WOE: Low carb Start Date: Everyday!	Glad you mention cereal, Have any tried the Special K with chocolate? I was wondering is it worth buying?

01-14-2009, 07:47 AM	#390
Leo41 Senior LCF member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 8,463 Gallery: Leo41 Stats: 340 then/145 now WOE: Low carb/calorie cycling	I find that losing the temptation to munch at night is one of the surprising effects of JUDDD for me. In the past, while watching TV, I'd always talk myself into a snack, but I think I changed with my very first DD. When I thought about that snack (behavior always trumps actual hunger), I didn't want to mar my "accomplishment" of 400 cal--which I never thought I'd be able to do. So the idea of a snack vanished instantly. After a month on JUDDD, at the end of my UD last night, the idea of a snack again crossed my mind, and I instantly thought, "But I'm not at all hungry, so there's no point." I think that this woe is actually teaching me to listen to my body--for the first time in my life!