P3~P4 SIMEONS PROTOCOL MARCH 2013

[sillyme]

Originally Posted by tarheelkris

Can I pick you guys' brains this morning? I very much appreciate all the feedback I got concerning my stall. As per suggested, I started the macadamia nut fat fast on Friday. I haven't loss one ounce!!!
Has anyone ever tried this fast before? How long must I eat nuts before I see a loss?

I thought it was a correction day? Just for the one day was my understanding.

[pandora174]

Evening all ! Tomorrow starting R5P2D1. Had 2 1/2 days of loading & all I can say is "I can load". I am estimating 10 to 12 lbs

Excited & feeling very positive about this round. Having all my allowed foods & sticking to protocol. Let's see how low I can get.

See you guys in the April P3-P4 thread

[Jeanyyy]

So today will end up around 1100 calories (including the 2 experimental breadsticks). We'll see how the weigh-in goes.......

[MOMMYONAMISSION]

Good luck Pandora!!!

[MOMMYONAMISSION]

Good Luck Jeanyyy!!

[Jeanyyy]

Originally Posted by MOMMYONAMISSION

Good Luck Jeanyyy!!

Thank you, MoM... I'm still STUFFED from dinner..

[tarheelkris]

Morning all! Good luck Pandora!!

I am happy to note that I was 121.2 this morning, a loss of 2.2. I'm glad I stuck with the fat fast for one more day. I feel like a new woman.

[pandora174]

Thanks ladies ! I must of broken another world record in gaining while loading 16.6 lbs in 2 1/2 days. Wow ! I know it's inflammation & water gain etc etc but damn can I gain or what ?!? Hope I can lose it as fast & this has definitely turned me off from doing another round. I'm sticking to this round until goal weight. Hopefully I can get there is 21 days or if needed a few extra days.

[Pumpkinbabe]

So much for getting to 210 by today I was at 211 on Saturday and today I'm up 1.9 I'm guessing its just TOM. Here I was thinking I was going to escape. it's ok. I'll just keep eating clean. Might do that GYCD tmrw seeing that I keep postponing. I got cabot but it taste like sour cream to me. stevia wont affect CD losses?

Today is also my first day of P4 but I will be extending p3 in hopes of getting back to my LDW either 207 or 205. I don't remember

[Pumpkinbabe]

Originally Posted by pandora174

Thanks ladies ! I must of broken another world record in gaining while loading 16.6 lbs in 2 1/2 days. Wow ! I know it's inflammation & water gain etc etc but damn can I gain or what ?!? Hope I can lose it as fast & this has definitely turned me off from doing another round. I'm sticking to this round until goal weight. Hopefully I can get there is 21 days or if needed a few extra days.

Wow. Most I've gained was 10

[Pumpkinbabe]

Originally Posted by tarheelkris

Morning all! Good luck Pandora!!

I am happy to note that I was 121.2 this morning, a loss of 2.2. I'm glad I stuck with the fat fast for one more day. I feel like a new woman.

Awesome!! My first fat fast I lost 6lbs after day 1 but then every time I try to do a fat fast I never lose anything. maybe I should stuck it out like you. I always do one day.

When I lost the six lbs I had
Breakfast 10am
-1/4 cup macadamia cashew mix
Lunch
-3 boiled eggs
Mid afternoon snack
-2 tbs skippy natural peanut butter
Late afternoon snack
-1/4 cup macadamia cashew mix
Dinner 8pm
-3 boiled eggs w/ butter

The second fat fast I did was all macadamia nuts and I didn't lose.
I wonder if anyone did an all bacon fat fast.

[MOMMYONAMISSION]

Pumpkin stevia is fine while in p2 or p3...I've been using equal when I don't have my stevia. Last time I had plain Greek yogurt I put some sugar free vanilla syrup in it. It was nice and creamy, not gritty like when you put stevia in it.

[Pumpkinbabe]

Originally Posted by MOMMYONAMISSION

Pumpkin stevia is fine while in p2 or p3...I've been using equal when I don't have my stevia. Last time I had plain Greek yogurt I put some sugar free vanilla syrup in it. It was nice and creamy, not gritty like when you put stevia in it.

Oohhh that sounds yummy!! Ill look for that next time I go grocery shopping.

[toomuchbooty]

Pandora! Wow! I hope the woosh fairy comes quickly to woosh away all that water weight.

Things are going well for me. The good news is that I have seemed to stabilize, the bad news is that it's about 3lbs up from my LIW. It's hard to say if I will stay here because it's still TOM for me. I'm not trying to correct these 3lbs due to TOM, but if it stays here I will be okay with that.

I'm not struggling with food at all. I'm definitely satisfied with less these days. My sugar cravings are minimal. I am hoping things stay this way until my next round in April.

[walkingwoman]

Mornng! Scale is back down and close to my ldw once more

[Jeanyyy]

Morning, everyone. I was down 0.5 lbs today, .5 below LDW. I only had about 1150 calories due to a late start to the day (weekend sleep-in) and they did include the 2 Grissini experiment. Obviously, the experiment is still inconclusive so I will continue it for another day to see what happens.

I have read that when you do a GY correction day, you can have sweetener and up to 8 oz of berries with your yogurt throughout the day. Might make it a bit more palatable.

[fiveninepointfive]

Originally Posted by pandora174

Thanks ladies ! I must of broken another world record in gaining while loading 16.6 lbs in 2 1/2 days. Wow ! I know it's inflammation & water gain etc etc but damn can I gain or what ?!? Hope I can lose it as fast & this has definitely turned me off from doing another round. I'm sticking to this round until goal weight. Hopefully I can get there is 21 days or if needed a few extra days.

OMG! That is quite impressive! I am toying with starting one around Easter, but I am reluctant. I just can't see doing a round in the summer or fall, so I feel like it could be my last chance.
I hope you have a successful round!

[pandora174]

Originally Posted by fiveninepointfive

OMG! That is quite impressive! I am toying with starting one around Easter, but I am reluctant. I just can't see doing a round in the summer or fall, so I feel like it could be my last chance.
I hope you have a successful round!

Thanks ladies ! I still feel so bloated Not hungry at all (how could I be anyway) ! I will report tomorrow my losses. Keeping my fingers crossed because I had to break out my size 6 very stretchy pants today & not happy at all about that. I always tell myself not to overdo it when I load but this is a record even for me ! But my mindset is very positive & so far not miserable like I was last round from day 1. I just really want to get into the 120's again.

[shelbyla]

Originally Posted by Jeanyyy

So today will end up around 1100 calories (including the 2 experimental breadsticks). We'll see how the weigh-in goes.......

Just out of curiosity, why are you keeping the breadsticks in?

Originally Posted by pandora174

Thanks ladies ! I must of broken another world record in gaining while loading 16.6 lbs in 2 1/2 days. Wow ! I know it's inflammation & water gain etc etc but damn can I gain or what ?!? Hope I can lose it as fast & this has definitely turned me off from doing another round. I'm sticking to this round until goal weight. Hopefully I can get there is 21 days or if needed a few extra days.

Wow! What did you eat???

Originally Posted by Pumpkinbabe

So much for getting to 210 by today I was at 211 on Saturday and today I'm up 1.9 I'm guessing its just TOM. Here I was thinking I was going to escape. it's ok. I'll just keep eating clean. Might do that GYCD tmrw seeing that I keep postponing. I got cabot but it taste like sour cream to me. stevia wont affect CD losses?

Today is also my first day of P4 but I will be extending p3 in hopes of getting back to my LDW either 207 or 205. I don't remember

Stevia is fine for CD's. I like the Sweetleaf or KAL liquid stevias and KAL also makes a really good Luo Han/Stevia blend powder that is super sweet. Tastes great in GY.

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Hi everyone. Well, I decided on the potato hack for this week. I tried to start yesterday but it's just not very likely that I'll stick to something like that if I'm lazing around at home! Just too many yummy things in the fridge to eat! Not bad stuff--just lots of stuff OTHER than potatoes! Blueberries and chicken thighs and cashews, oh my! I also did NOT get up early this morning to work out. I forgot about the time change and when that alarm went off at 5:00am it sure FELT like 4:00am! Fuggedaboudit! Either walking the park or hitting the treadclimber this evening instead. It's supposed to be beautiful outside and at least I have an extra hour at the END of the day! I don't think I will count any weights in the next two days toward my potato hack success. Last time, I saw more of an impact a week or two later in my decreased carb sensitivity. Still sitting in the upper 140's which is a long time setpoint for me and a weight that I am ok with, generally. (The "girls" sure look better at this weight! ) SO is out of town and I'm flying to Austin to meet him on Friday. South by Southwest is going on so lots to do in Austin in my 24 hours there! We're then taking the train back to LA which should be an interesting little adventure.

Anyway, happy (?) Monday everyone! Let's keep it real!

[Jeanyyy]

Originally Posted by shelbyla

Just out of curiosity, why are you keeping the breadsticks in?

Oh, a bit of an experiment. I always wondered if Dr Simeons meant for us to drop them (and oranges) when he said "no sugar, no starch". My doubting mind feels that he would not have taken anything AWAY from the basic 500 calorie plan when transitioning to P3. I believe that he meant "no additional sugar or starch"... so I decided to try and see what happened.

Explain the potato hack, please, Shelby? What is the purpose of it?

[MOMMYONAMISSION]

Hi Shelby!


Any one know the safest nuts to eat on p3?

[shelbyla]

Originally Posted by Jeanyyy

Explain the potato hack, please, Shelby? What is the purpose of it?

Thanks for the insight. I will be interested to see how you do. There is a whole thread over on the JUDDD forum (and a lot of stuff on Mark's Daily Apple, if you read that) regarding the potato hack. Here are a couple of links:

Potato Hack on Paleo Blogs - Anyone Doing This?
A DD Hack
Recipes for the potato hack

Basically, it's a biohack to help you drop a few pounds, kind of like the fat fast. You eat potatoes and ONLY potatoes for 3-7 days (10 days???). You can have them prepared any way you like EXCEPT...no protein...no fat. Only non-fat toppings like vinegar are allowed. It sounds weird and strict but it's actually much easier than it sounds. People have reported a complete loss of any cravings, a sense of well-being, better sleep, more energy, improved blood glucose readings, etc. FOR ME, I found that while I did not see huge weight loss, my sensitivity to carbs was very much decreased. I could eat them and not get dinged with a 3-5 pound gain the next day. I also found that afterwards I didn't really have the cravings for sugary foods or carby foods that I once had. My weight also seemed to settle at a slightly lower consistent point after about two weeks (from 145-148 to 141-144). Finally, the first time I did it, I tested blood sugar readings and saw a DRAMATIC decrease in the impact of the potatoes on my bg which can only be a good thing. Anyway, lately I've had some sugar cravings creep up again as has my weight a bit so I thought I would try it again and see if I see anything similar.

Originally Posted by MOMMYONAMISSION

Hi Shelby!


Any one know the safest nuts to eat on p3?

In order:
Macadamias
Almonds
Pecans
Walnuts
Brazil nuts

[MOMMYONAMISSION]

Thank you Shelby

I may try that potato hack when I'm done with hcg.

[jabbok]

Originally Posted by walkingwoman

Do you follow the recipe and make them with Splenda or another AS? if other, which and how much? Looks so simple

When I made these I left out the sweetner and added sugar free jello usually cherry they were really good.

[Jeanyyy]

Originally Posted by shelbyla

Basically, it's a biohack to help you drop a few pounds, kind of like the fat fast. You eat potatoes and ONLY potatoes for 3-7 days (10 days???). You can have them prepared any way you like EXCEPT...no protein...no fat. Only non-fat toppings like vinegar are allowed. It sounds weird and strict but it's actually much easier than it sounds. People have reported a complete loss of any cravings, a sense of well-being, better sleep, more energy, improved blood glucose readings, etc. FOR ME, I found that while I did not see huge weight loss, my sensitivity to carbs was very much decreased. I could eat them and not get dinged with a 3-5 pound gain the next day. I also found that afterwards I didn't really have the cravings for sugary foods or carby foods that I once had. My weight also seemed to settle at a slightly lower consistent point after about two weeks (from 145-148 to 141-144). Finally, the first time I did it, I tested blood sugar readings and saw a DRAMATIC decrease in the impact of the potatoes on my bg which can only be a good thing. Anyway, lately I've had some sugar cravings creep up again as has my weight a bit so I thought I would try it again and see if I see anything similar.

Wow! This sounds awesome... Is it hard to do for that long, though? I would think you'd be craving like crazy. Is coffee allowed? Oh, maybe I should read some of those links instead of bugging YOU ..

[shelbyla]

Here are a couple more links to my summary entries. The thread is super long so it can be a little intimidating!

A DD Hack
A DD Hack

People actually do it for MUCH longer--sometimes up to a month at a time. Not sure I'd be able to do it for that long but I'll go for at least 2 days, possibly 3, this time around. Coffee is allowed. Cream really isn't if you're doing it "clean." I was actually ok this morning with just black coffee and sweetener.

[MOMMYONAMISSION]

Man, I just want to eat something different. Think I've made all my p3 treats already.

[shelbyla]

Originally Posted by MOMMYONAMISSION

Man, I just want to eat something different. Think I've made all my p3 treats already.

What have you been eating? What are you craving? I am a veritable recipe book...

[MOMMYONAMISSION]

Thank you Shelby,
I've done a mug cake , I've made a cheesecake, I made chocolate covered almonds, I just want something different. lol I don't really know what I want. I haven't really made anything with hc. Maybe I.should make some ice cream tomorrow.

[Avy]

Still hard to eat so much after going so long not! Feeling really full from supper... zoodles with a hamburger and tomatoes sauce... was fabulous! And way more than I would normally eat any other time, since I normally stick around 1400 calories. Bah.

March 6, 2013 184.60 Vlcd 24 Day 1 no drops
March 7, 2013 184.80 Vlcd 25 Day 2 no drops
March 8, 2013 185.60 Vlcd 26 Day 3 – about 1000 cals
March 9, 2013 185.40 P3 Day 1 ramping up to 1800 cals to stabilize.
March 10, 2013 184.80 P3 Day 2 1577 cals
March 11, 2013 185.00 P3 day 3 1809 cals