P3~P4 SIMEONS PROTOCOL FEBRUARY 2013

[torister]

P3D5 for me and I am still bouncing a bit, but staying within my window so I am going forward as I have been so far!

[pandora174]

Originally Posted by MOMMYONAMISSION

I need your help ladies! I don't know what to do. I have been on a planned interruption for a week and a half. I had some sugar and carbs on Sunday. So I did a gy day on monday and then a steak day yesterday. So I weigh in today and I'm up 9 lbs still. I was planning on starting p2 again today. But.I didn't know I was up that much. I've had a few sips of coffee w hc so far today. Should I do another cd or just start the drops back today. I wanted to get to 175 this round, I was at like 180 at the beginning of the interruption

I think the back to back correction days lose their effectiveness. If this was a PI and you are set for P2 again I would just go into P2 and not load any further or do any other correction days & the weight should drop off eventually. In my PI I gained 4 lbs & it it took 2 or 3 days & then the losses started again.

Don't get frustrated it's very easy to gain when you eat sugar/carbs & you aren't stabilized yet. Take it as a lesson learned & now just move on. It happens to all of us. Now is just time to focus on P2

[dooy]

Up .2 for the 3rd day in a row. I know it's no big deal but I'm watching it.

Added protein shake 2 mornings, eggs/veggie omlette yesterday, little bit of fat in cooking, 1 oz extra protein at lunch, dinner. Probably up to about 1000 calories? I guess I better start logging. Water consumption is still good.

Hang in there everybody!

[MOMMYONAMISSION]

Thanks ladies, should I be fine with starting the drops and having the hc in my coffee today. I'm already so hungry today. I don't think I can stay on p2 eating today.

[MOMMYONAMISSION]

I am going to eat high fat today and start p2 tomorrow. I got to get my head in the game. I need to suck it up and start tomorrow. No matter what

[torister]

Originally Posted by dooy

Up .2 for the 3rd day in a row. I know it's no big deal but I'm watching it.

Added protein shake 2 mornings, eggs/veggie omlette yesterday, little bit of fat in cooking, 1 oz extra protein at lunch, dinner. Probably up to about 1000 calories? I guess I better start logging. Water consumption is still good.

Hang in there everybody!

What day of P3 are you in? Ok...I looked back and saw what day you are on.

Honestly, unless you are outside of your 2 lbs +/- window you will make yourself crazy worrying about a 0.2 fluctuation...which is all it is. If you weighed in an hour later you could have weighed less. I don't understand why are you tip toeing adding the fats and protein?!?!!? After P2 your body is really needing that protein and especially good fats. Remember, this is when you are reprogramming your body to maintain at a certain level of calories and you do not want to be at 1000 calories. When they say go slow, they mean go slow adding things that have been known to cause inflammation and overnight big gains (just water, but they can freak you out!). Things like nuts, dairy, processed meats like bacon (sodium).

Just as an example of how my P3 is going. I am just up a smidge over my LDW today (P3D5) and yesterday's menu was:

Bfast: 2 scrambled eggs made with HWC, carnitas meat and onions and mushrooms made in butter
Big Dunkin's iced coffee with HWC
Lunch: Good sized serving of sausage and mushroom "dressing" which includes a bit of monterey jack cheese
Dinner: Chicken and broccoli in olive oil and garlic topped with fresh parmesan cheese
dessert: mug cake topped with whipped cream. YUM!

Just trying to help....don't want to offend at all!!

[Shrinking]

Originally Posted by torister

What day of P3 are you in? Ok...I looked back and saw what day you are on.

Honestly, unless you are outside of your 2 lbs +/- window you will make yourself crazy worrying about a 0.2 fluctuation...which is all it is. If you weighed in an hour later you could have weighed less. I don't understand why are you tip toeing adding the fats and protein?!?!!? After P2 your body is really needing that protein and especially good fats. Remember, this is when you are reprogramming your body to maintain at a certain level of calories and you do not want to be at 1000 calories. When they say go slow, they mean go slow adding things that have been known to cause inflammation and overnight big gains (just water, but they can freak you out!). Things like nuts, dairy, processed meats like bacon (sodium).

Just as an example of how my P3 is going. I am just up a smidge over my LDW today (P3D5) and yesterday's menu was:

Bfast: 2 scrambled eggs made with HWC, carnitas meat and onions and mushrooms made in butter
Big Dunkin's iced coffee with HWC
Lunch: Good sized serving of sausage and mushroom "dressing" which includes a bit of monterey jack cheese
Dinner: Chicken and broccoli in olive oil and garlic topped with fresh parmesan cheese
dessert: mug cake topped with whipped cream. YUM!

Just trying to help....don't want to offend at all!!

Mmmmmmm. Your menu sounds yummy. I'm eating at your house!

[MagieDen]

I'm in P2 and I would to eat at Torister's house for P3 as well.

[torister]

Originally Posted by Shrinking

Mmmmmmm. Your menu sounds yummy. I'm eating at your house!

Originally Posted by MagieDen

I'm in P2 and I would to eat at Torister's house for P3 as well.

C'mon over....I love to cook!!

[MOMMYONAMISSION]

Pandora how long did you do your last p2. I remember you lost like 20lbs in a few days

[pandora174]

Originally Posted by MOMMYONAMISSION

Pandora how long did you do your last p2. I remember you lost like 20lbs in a few days

Remember I blew up on a 7 day vacation & gained 23 lbs to 154 when my previous ldw had been 130.2 & then I went to P2 for 13 days of vlcd but if you count the 2 days of hHCG 15 days. I lost 25.8 lbs so my new ldw is
128.2. I think also losing so fast is what made me feel so poorly. Not just mentally which I wasn't really there but physically I just felt exhausted all the time.

I know I know crazy crazy numbers

[MOMMYONAMISSION]

Pandora hcg is awesome!! I would love to lose that fast. I just can't get my head in the p2 game today. I've had 2 eggs, cheese, hc, 2 sugar and carb free hotdogs and a salad with ranch and salt free sunflower seeds. I feel huge! I will start tomorrow for sure. If I would have started Monday I would be back on track already. Sorry for all the complaining guys, I just have disappointed myself. Im just so tired of p2 foods right now.

[buttah]

Unexpected happiness. I was stable for about a week at nearly 3 lbs above LDW, 1 lb out of the "window," which I was completely fine with, but now I'm back at just above LDW (and back in the window). Just from a few naturally light-eating days, one of which was sort of an unplanned GY day (with berries and nuts, but I also ate my beloved seaweed snacks throughout the day and had a few bites of veggies w/ my family at dinner). I just love GY, and I felt like it helped "clean me out." I wasn't really trying to "correct," just felt like doing it. We'll see if I stay here, but either way, I'm just so happy.

I really believe one of the tricks to maintenance is not freaking out and throwing in the towel when the scale tips up a bit. But I'm not gonna lie - I don't overindulge. I just don't. If it's not healthy, I only have it in very controlled moderation, and only when I'm really truly hungry. It's like a switch went off in my brain after 55 years of eating that way (indulging). I guess you could say I literally "had enough."

HCG saved me, and Robin Woodall is a genius at what to do after HCG.

[MagieDen]

Originally Posted by MOMMYONAMISSION

Pandora hcg is awesome!! I would love to lose that fast. I just can't get my head in the p2 game today. I've had 2 eggs, cheese, hc, 2 sugar and carb free hotdogs and a salad with ranch and salt free sunflower seeds. I feel huge! I will start tomorrow for sure. If I would have started Monday I would be back on track already. Sorry for all the complaining guys, I just have disappointed myself. Im just so tired of p2 foods right now.

I am in no way an Hhcg protocol expert but do you think you should call it a round since you are not feeling too happy about eating P2 foods? I do know that you have to be ready for this protocol mentally or else it will be too hard, I know THIS from experience.I hope you find out what will work for you.

[torister]

Originally Posted by buttah

I really believe one of the tricks to maintenance is not freaking out and throwing in the towel when the scale tips up a bit. But I'm not gonna lie - I don't overindulge. I just don't. If it's not healthy, I only have it in very controlled moderation, and only when I'm really truly hungry. It's like a switch went off in my brain after 55 years of eating that way (indulging). I guess you could say I literally "had enough."

What I love is that I am simply *not* hungry all that often. If I am truly hungry, I eat something. I am not snacking/grazing all day. I am eating 3 meals a day and last night I was hungry after a light dinner and I had mug cake which is yummy and not bad for you. We are re-training ourselves how to eat to truly feed our bodies what it needs. Nice whole foods!!

[MOMMYONAMISSION]

Buttah I am trying to follow Robin's teachings. I love just love her view on food and eating. But I fell off the"wagon" I'm going to succeed at this thing, because it has to be a lifestyle change not just a diet. You are doing such a great job maintaining!

Well magie I had been on day 38 when I started my interruption. So it has been nice to eat real food. I will not settle for the weight I am now. I have to start p2 again. I need to get to at least 175 before I call it a day. I will be ready tomorrow. I better be lol

[buttah]

Mommy, there are some Robin things I don't do. I weigh myself every morning. I can't give that up, and it's working for me. I also seem to want to avoid carbs and sugar, whereas Robin would say don't "judge" food. But I WANT to eat that way (very few processed carbs and sugar - I eat low glycemic veggies and fruits a lot). It's what I crave now. It's what makes me feel good. So, I guess in a way, that is the Robin method!

I think "lifestyle change" is the key. I don't think I ever really got that before. Or I wasn't ready to accept what it really meant. That said, I haven't yo-yo'ed for years. I pretty much just gained pregnancy weight x 3 and never got it off... other than a few pounds... until now.

[buttah]

Originally Posted by torister

I was hungry after a light dinner and I had mug cake which is yummy and not bad for you.

Mug cakes have changed my life. One controlled portion that just totally hits the spot desert-wise. I don't need anything else! And I don't have them unless I really want one.

[torister]

Originally Posted by buttah

Mug cakes have changed my life. One controlled portion that just totally hits the spot desert-wise. I don't need anything else! And I don't have them unless I really want one.

Exactly!! That is how I feel as well.

[MagieDen]

Lifestyle Change and how I see food in my life is what I am praying for myself to get. I am a work in progress that is for sure and I certainly hope I treat my body with more dignity than I have before. Mommy, glad you have made your decision and I will have a P2 buddy on the journey to better health.

Buttah and others succeeding on P3, Thank You so much for sticking around and helping us learn what works for you and doesn't.

[sillyme]

Can somoene tell me what is in a mug cake? I had MIM but never a mug cake....please share!!!

[torister]

Originally Posted by sillyme

Can somoene tell me what is in a mug cake? I had MIM but never a mug cake....please share!!!

2T almond flour
1.5 T sugar alternative (I use xylitol)
1 heaping T of cocoa powder
1 T butter (melted)
1 egg
1.5 T milk or cream (I use HWC)
dash of vanilla extract
Large coffee mug

Mix the dry ingredients together. Add the egg and mix well, then add remaining ingredients to mix well. Put in microwave for 90 seconds and flip onto plate when done. I serve with whipped cream! Yum!!

[dooy]

Originally Posted by torister

What day of P3 are you in? Ok...I looked back and saw what day you are on.

Honestly, unless you are outside of your 2 lbs +/- window you will make yourself crazy worrying about a 0.2 fluctuation...which is all it is. If you weighed in an hour later you could have weighed less. I don't understand why are you tip toeing adding the fats and protein?!?!!? After P2 your body is really needing that protein and especially good fats. Remember, this is when you are reprogramming your body to maintain at a certain level of calories and you do not want to be at 1000 calories. When they say go slow, they mean go slow adding things that have been known to cause inflammation and overnight big gains (just water, but they can freak you out!). Things like nuts, dairy, processed meats like bacon (sodium).

Just as an example of how my P3 is going. I am just up a smidge over my LDW today (P3D5) and yesterday's menu was:

Bfast: 2 scrambled eggs made with HWC, carnitas meat and onions and mushrooms made in butter
Big Dunkin's iced coffee with HWC
Lunch: Good sized serving of sausage and mushroom "dressing" which includes a bit of monterey jack cheese
Dinner: Chicken and broccoli in olive oil and garlic topped with fresh parmesan cheese
dessert: mug cake topped with whipped cream. YUM!

Just trying to help....don't want to offend at all!!

No offense taken! Thank you for taking the time to post this!

I thought we were supposed to up the calories slowly to our BMI (mine is 1345 calories) by adding additional fats and protein? I really have to pull the P&I out again...I am not really hungry but do feel really tired so I'm probably not getting enough calories. I hate that I'm in P3 and not suppose to lose more. I get it in my head about stabilizing but I am finally losing and just don't want to stop.

Breakfast: protein shake on the go! (160 calories)
Coffee with H&H
Lunch (out so meager protein portion!): large mixed green salad no dressing with 4 grilled shrimp, baked apple
Snack: 10 raw almonds
Dinner: not sure but it's gonna be good!

I am taking a look at your menu and thinking, wow! I need to eat! Definitely changing things up for dinner.

Originally Posted by sillyme

Can somoene tell me what is in a mug cake? I had MIM but never a mug cake....please share!!!

Yeah, that!!!

[MagieDen]

Originally Posted by torister

2T almond flour
1.5 T sugar alternative (I use xylitol)
1 heaping T of cocoa powder
1 T butter (melted)
1 egg
1.5 T milk or cream (I use HWC)
dash of vanilla extract
Large coffee mug

Mix the dry ingredients together. Add the egg and mix well, then add remaining ingredients to mix well. Put in microwave for 90 seconds and flip onto plate when done. I serve with whipped cream! Yum!!

So glad Sillyme asked the question about this, was wondering what it was myself. Thanks for taking the time to post the recipe.

[sillyme]

Thank you, i'm trying that tonight! Although i don't have any HWC in the house (need to change that) its snow storming and i don't feel like going out!!!

[sillyme]

Originally Posted by dooy

No offense taken! Thank you for taking the time to post this!

I thought we were supposed to up the calories slowly to our BMI (mine is 1345 calories) by adding additional fats and protein? I really have to pull the P&I out again...I am not really hungry but do feel really tired so I'm probably not getting enough calories. I hate that I'm in P3 and not suppose to lose more. I get it in my head about stabilizing but I am finally losing and just don't want to stop.

Breakfast: protein shake on the go! (160 calories)
Coffee with H&H
Lunch (out so meager protein portion!): large mixed green salad no dressing with 4 grilled shrimp, baked apple
Snack: 10 raw almonds
Dinner: not sure but it's gonna be good!

I am taking a look at your menu and thinking, wow! I need to eat! Definitely changing things up for dinner.



Yeah, that!!!

Dooy, why no salad dressing? Eat girl! That definitely looks like not enough.

[shelbyla]

Here are some more recipes for mug cakes... The chocolate one is da bomb! I've used almond flour, coconut flour, and peanut flour. All are good choices.

Mug Cake Recipes!!!!!!

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Hiya everyone!

I've been seriously MIA--sorry! Travel, new SO, new job, all serving to keep me incredibly busy. The time that I usually spend in the morning on the computer is being spent either catching up on my sleep or snuggling. The time that I usually spend during the day seems to have been eclipsed by all kinds of crazy meetings and trying to catch up with my bills and my gf's. Seriously, I could really use about a 30 hour day right now, although I'm not sure whether I'd use those extra hours to sleep, do errands, or just take a breath.

Weight-wise, I got on the scale last the day after Valentine's Day. I was up about 3.5 pounds (just a hair under 145) but considering what I ate and drank the previous day, I will take that and run with it. I decided to cook for my new beau instead of going out to an overpriced loud restaurant. I made a pear, melon, goat cheese, basil and prosciutto appetizer, artichoke and Parmesan stuffed mushrooms, sous vide seared duck breast with plum sauce, roasted asparagus, and a double mug cake with REAL ice cream and whipped cream. (For the double mug cake, I doubled the recipe and put it in a small souffle dish and cooked it for about 2.5 mins. It could have gone a little longer but I ended up with kind of a lava cake which was pretty darn tasty.) I also paired the foods with a wine per course (champagne, merlot, zinfandel) and drank plenty of it. So after all that, only a 3.5 pound gain? You bet I'll take it!

Last weekend, I was in San Antonio for a wedding and again, ate plenty and not just low carb options. I am giving myself some time to lose any travel/food bloat but again, I'm not feeling too icky and my pants are still fitting the same so I am very pleased with how P4+++ is going. I also had blood tests yesterday for lipids and they are astoundingly good. HDL, WAY up from last year--92. LDL, down from last year--72. Total cholesterol 170. Triglycerides, a whopping 58. Is anyone wondering if a diet where the calories consist of primarily saturated fats can hurt your lipid numbers? Um, no, I don't THINK so! I was also pretty pleased to see these numbers immediately after my trip to Texas as I had worried a bit that eating higher carb would impact them. I am still pondering the potato fast thing I did a while back helped with the carb sensitivity? I guess I will see when I get back on the scale in the next day or two!

In any case, great to see you all again! I'm really trying to keep up and posting really still helps me stay accountable, even at goal at beyond. Everyone KUTGW!!!

[MOMMYONAMISSION]

I'm going to make a mug cake tonight. One last sweet treat before tomorrow lol

[MagieDen]

Originally Posted by MOMMYONAMISSION

I'm going to make a mug cake tonight. One last sweet treat before tomorrow lol

Enjoy it for me.

[sillyme]

Shelby thanks for the link for mug cakes! YUM, but slow and steady adding things. Have to see how I react to the almond flour first before any more treats!