P3~P4 SIMEONS PROTOCOL FEBRUARY 2013

[torister]

Originally Posted by sillyme

I will be loading again at Easter as I still have a lot to lose and will need to do more rounds.

I will be loading again at Easter as well and I have many more rounds to do!!

[sillyme]

Originally Posted by torister

I will be loading again at Easter as well and I have many more rounds to do!!

Glad to be on the journey with you

...and i see now you've already posted your recipe area lol

[Shrinking]

Originally Posted by pandora174

5 lbs overnight ? Likely tom. I hate tom myself specially in P3. There are lots of great CD. My favorite is the Greek yogurt, followed by egg day & then steak day. Though I've been curious to try the bacon/coffee day. Drink lots of water with lemon or hot water with lemon & it will drop off. It's water gain & inflammation. Just in case did you add any new foods ? Has your menu altered

Yes I did have something off plan. A handful of peanuts in my husbands vehicle. I was starving. That's the problem. I stopped thinking about food so I wasn't prepared. Must plan ahead. Life gets busy and we ave to be prepared for the unexpected. I also lost 2lbs after my BM this morning! Sorry if that's TMI. . Tried Lara's bacon/coffee day. Great idea!!

[buttah]

Originally Posted by sillyme

totally agree for now, hoping though that i can eat and feel comfortable without being too tight on calories, in other words i worry right now that it came off so fast that if i don't eat right it will go on just as quickly...and i've already bagged up the clothes that are too big lol. But i want to know that I can eventually loosen up the reins on tracking everything everyday. This is my first experience with hHCG and i want to do it right. I will be loading again at Easter as I still have a lot to lose and will need to do more rounds.

I counted calories for the entire 9 weeks between my first and second rounds. And it was a great education for the way I plan to eat for the rest of my life. After I wrapped up this round, however, I only counted for about a week of P3. Haven't logged a single calorie since and lovin' it. So it IS possible!

[buttah]

Originally Posted by sillyme

totally agree for now, hoping though that i can eat and feel comfortable without being too tight on calories, in other words i worry right now that it came off so fast that if i don't eat right it will go on just as quickly...and i've already bagged up the clothes that are too big lol. But i want to know that I can eventually loosen up the reins on tracking everything everyday. This is my first experience with hHCG and i want to do it right. I will be loading again at Easter as I still have a lot to lose and will need to do more rounds.

I counted calories for the entire 9 weeks between my first and second rounds. I was super cautious. And it was a great education for the way I plan to eat for the rest of my life. After I wrapped up this round, however, I only counted for about a week of P3. Haven't logged a single calorie since and lovin' it. So it IS possible!

[Shrinking]

Just when I'm feeling really bad about gaining 3lbs, my DD (11) comes home from a sleepover (family day here in Canada, so it's a long weekend) and tells me all her friends noticed I lost a lot of weight.

She says," mom if kids notice, it must be really noticeable !"

I asked her if that made her feel good for her friends to talk about me that way.

She said,"yes and don't ever put the weight on again, you look so pretty!"

Well I'll take that as added incentive or a regular old kick in the pants to keep it off! Support comes from the most unexpected places!

[sillyme]

Originally Posted by Shrinking

Just when I'm feeling really bad about gaining 3lbs, my DD (11) comes home from a sleepover (family day here in Canada, so it's a long weekend) and tells me all her friends noticed I lost a lot of weight.

She says," mom if kids notice, it must be really noticeable !"

I asked her if that made her feel good for her friends to talk about me that way.

She said,"yes and don't ever put the weight on again, you look so pretty!"

Well I'll take that as added incentive or a regular old kick in the pants to keep it off! Support comes from the most unexpected places!

So awesome when others notice, and especially kids too!!! Congrats!

[torister]

Morning all! Riding the P3 week 1 roller coaster. Up 1.4....exactly on LIW. Had bacon for bfast *and* sausage at dinner so prob just water weight. No biggie.

[pandora174]

R4P4D11 & up +1.6 yuck but only +1.2 over ldw. I did add sweet potato last night but I don't think it was that at all. What I do think is that Sat/Sun & Mon I slept in an extra 3 hours every day. Today I am back to my regular routine & up at 6 am so I know had I slept in I would STS. Also coincidentally I weighed last night before bed just out of curiosity & I was 129.6 vs this morning 129.4. My fat percentage is the same as the day before. My weight always goes up 2 to 3 lbs during the day and then it's gone in the morning so it being the same from the night before tells me it's a fluctuation.

Today making sure I have all my water and keeping on. Will try the sweet potato another day this week & see what happens. What is great is before I would of been upset or had an "all protein day". But today I saw it for what it was & kept my meals planned as is with no change other than make sure I have all my water. I really feel a change in my attitude toward the scale and not letting it rule my emotions as much

[Felina]

R5P3D6, okay, I already had to do a correction day on D4 of P3, and it looks like I will need another one today D6. I weigh 1.5 hours.

So, how does the coffee and bacon day go? I could eat a lot of bacon. Is there a restriction on how much bacon we can have? Also, can I have hwc in my coffee? If so, how much, how often?

I'm also wondering if I should just get back on HCG since it is only D6 and needing my 2nd CD. Also toying with the idea of fat fasting instead. Any thoughts?

[pandora174]

Originally Posted by Felina

R5P3D6, okay, I already had to do a correction day on D4 of P3, and it looks like I will need another one today D6. I weigh 1.5 hours.

So, how does the coffee and bacon day go? I could eat a lot of bacon. Is there a restriction on how much bacon we can have? Also, can I have hwc in my coffee? If so, how much, how often?

I'm also wondering if I should just get back on HCG since it is only D6 and needing my 2nd CD. Also toying with the idea of fat fasting instead. Any thoughts?

I haven't tried it since I do so well with the GY day but I have been so curious since I LOVE bacon. You get a package of bacon (can't think of how many oz) & you just spread it out during the day. Some people make it in the morning & then eat it throughout the day. & you have hwc it your coffee. I personally would do the reduced sodium bacon since anyway that's the one I eat just to be safe & I know it has no sugar.

Have you added a lot of things in at once ? What"s your menu look like ? I posted in the P3 thread during my Round 3 & got lots of good advice that once I eliminated some things & added others I was fine for the rest of P3 &used that advice for my Round 4. I also notice for me that after a CD I tend gain back to where my body wants to stabilize. This time around I'm in the 128-129 range.

Can't help you in the fat fast as I've never tried it. But I have eaten no carbs/high fat/high protein & dropped some in P3 when the scale is getting too close to that 2 lbs mark. If you are within 2 weeks of your last dose you can go back on HCG with no loading & consider it a PI. It's entirely up to you

[julieboolie]

Originally Posted by tarheelkris

Well I am in sunny Arizona. My sweet Leigh played softball like a pro this weekend. I am so glad I was able to fly out here and be a part of this adventure.

I brought my scales along and so far I have been maintaining. I must have picked up germs from the airplane, I feel pretty crappy. Sinus/ear infection is the verdict and I can't fly home tomorrow. I am looking at it as getting an extra day off from work. My mother in law is with me and since I can't fly with the fluid on my ears tomorrow we are going to drive six hours and see the Grand Canyon.

Enjoy the GC!! You picked a good time to visit, our weather is spectacular right now!!

Originally Posted by dawnyama

Julie

Originally Posted by Shrinking

Just when I'm feeling really bad about gaining 3lbs, my DD (11) comes home from a sleepover (family day here in Canada, so it's a long weekend) and tells me all her friends noticed I lost a lot of weight.

She says," mom if kids notice, it must be really noticeable !"

I asked her if that made her feel good for her friends to talk about me that way.

She said,"yes and don't ever put the weight on again, you look so pretty!"

Well I'll take that as added incentive or a regular old kick in the pants to keep it off! Support comes from the most unexpected places!

Love it!! Perfect timing, unsolicited, and genuine encouragement!! WTG!! Keep up the good work. Keeping it all in perspective. It sounds like you may have a sensitivity to peanuts? I developed a mild allergy to them in recent years, which is both a blessing and a curse. I have portion control issues w. PB.

Originally Posted by Felina

R5P3D6, okay, I already had to do a correction day on D4 of P3, and it looks like I will need another one today D6. I weigh 1.5 hours.

So, how does the coffee and bacon day go? I could eat a lot of bacon. Is there a restriction on how much bacon we can have? Also, can I have hwc in my coffee? If so, how much, how often?

I'm also wondering if I should just get back on HCG since it is only D6 and needing my 2nd CD. Also toying with the idea of fat fasting instead. Any thoughts?

No advice, just Hard start to P3. Were you stable at your LDW b/4 moving on? I've had rounds and heard others do a an adjusted LDW b/c thier final weight was a new low, that just couldn't be maintained. Hope you settle down into P3, or maybe go back for a bit more P2?

You're all doing great!! KUTGW!! That rollercoaster will settle down.

I'm down some from my GY. I wish I could just eat that all day everyday But I know the scale wouldn't react that way every day . Still, it's yummy and satisfying . I'm doing clean Atkins to hunger today and will do some type of CDish day tomorrow. I'd love to get back down closer to LDW. There should be smooth sailing ahead - no bdays, anniversaries, holidays for a few weeks!

[julieboolie]

Hey Shelby-if you're still checking in here . I'll be in CA for a week Mar 2-9. If you're in Irvine at all that week maybe we could do lunch? Let me know . Looking forward to a relaxing beach week .

[Dinalyn]

p3 day 2

I have been taking it really slow, and have only added in so far,butter,coconut oil,and hwc.along with the skin on chicken,bacon and eggs. Last nite was a good size rib eye,with broccoli and butter,and strawberries for desert.Tomorrow i hope to add in some greek yogurt with berries .Trying to not add in to much fruit as its really high carb. berries are best.
.5 under ldw

[torister]

Originally Posted by Shrinking

Well I'll take that as added incentive or a regular old kick in the pants to keep it off! Support comes from the most unexpected places!

It sure does...and remember our weight *will* fluctuate. Its water. Look over what you ate and maybe you might have a sensitivity to something...it might even be something that you were not sensitive to before.

Originally Posted by pandora174

Today making sure I have all my water and keeping on. Will try the sweet potato another day this week & see what happens. What is great is before I would of been upset or had an "all protein day". But today I saw it for what it was & kept my meals planned as is with no change other than make sure I have all my water. I really feel a change in my attitude toward the scale and not letting it rule my emotions as much

No need to correct. You are in the window. That is great that you are not giving the scale any power over you. It lies...remember that!

Originally Posted by Felina

R5P3D6, okay, I already had to do a correction day on D4 of P3, and it looks like I will need another one today D6. I weigh 1.5 hours.

Could you share your typical menus? Have you gone over 2.0 lbs over LDW?

Originally Posted by Dinalyn

p3 day 2

I have been taking it really slow, and have only added in so far,butter,coconut oil,and hwc.along with the skin on chicken,bacon and eggs. Last nite was a good size rib eye,with broccoli and butter,and strawberries for desert.Tomorrow i hope to add in some greek yogurt with berries .Trying to not add in to much fruit as its really high carb. berries are best. .5 under ldw

Sounds like you are doing great!! Congrats!!

[Felina]

Have you added a lot of things in at once ? What"s your menu look like ?

Could you share your typical menus? Have you gone over 2.0 lbs over LDW?

I did real well for the 72 hours of no HCG then good for the next two days. The 4th day of p3 I had bacon & eggs for breakfast, coffee (2) with hnh, and a huge steak for dinner with broccoli and mushrooms. Maybe it was a bit much but it was all legal food.
The next day I was 2.8 over ldw so did a steak day. Woke up yesterday to just .5 over ldw.

Yesterday i started with bacon & eggs. i was out all day so i didn't eat until i was so hungry and it was almost 7pm so i went to a buffet. Tried to stay low carb, but who knows what's really in that stuff. The mushroom sauce tasted a little sweet and something else tasted sweet so I tasted and didn't eat anymore. Still, I had delicious fried chicken which included breading! I shouldn't have let myself get too hungry since I'm only in the first week of P3.Today I am +2lbs over ldw!

One lb. of bacon doesn't seem like much. How does the GY day go? How much can I have? Can I add sweetener and/or fruit?

I just have to take care of this today so the lbs don't creep back on.

Thanks for all of your help.

[torister]

Originally Posted by Felina

I did real well for the 72 hours of no HCG then good for the next two days. The 4th day of p3 I had bacon & eggs for breakfast, coffee (2) with hnh, and a huge steak for dinner with broccoli and mushrooms. Maybe it was a bit much but it was all legal food.
The next day I was 2.8 over ldw so did a steak day. Woke up yesterday to just .5 over ldw.

Yesterday i started with bacon & eggs. i was out all day so i didn't eat until i was so hungry and it was almost 7pm so i went to a buffet. Tried to stay low carb, but who knows what's really in that stuff. The mushroom sauce tasted a little sweet and something else tasted sweet so I tasted and didn't eat anymore. Still, I had delicious fried chicken which included breading! I shouldn't have let myself get too hungry since I'm only in the first week of P3.Today I am +2lbs over ldw!

One lb. of bacon doesn't seem like much. How does the GY day go? How much can I have? Can I add sweetener and/or fruit?

I just have to take care of this today so the lbs don't creep back on.

Thanks for all of your help.

Personally.....I don't think you are eating enough!! Two meals a day is fine if you are eating enough each meal, but I don't think you are.

Also...eating out at a restaurant can be a sodium minefield and you can retain water like crazy!

[Jeanyyy]

Originally Posted by torister

Personally.....I don't think you are eating enough!! Two meals a day is fine if you are eating enough each meal, but I don't think you are.

Also...eating out at a restaurant can be a sodium minefield and you can retain water like crazy!

I agree re the sodium minefield... If I were you, I would not do another CD; I would slam the water, stick to approved P3 foods (no sugar, no starch) and reasonable quantitities and watch the scale go down tomorrow!!

[Bitsky]

yep, thought I could do it... thought I could be here reading this thread while starting my P2... nope, already I'm craving all the things I will get to have again in 20 some days... oh the bacon.... bacon is mentioned in just about everyon'e msgs here lol It's my VLCD #1 so I will be keeping myself busy in a different thread and I'll be back here when I'm almost done!!
Happy eating everyone, you're in my thoughts. (mostly it's the bacon, but I think of all you ladies getting to enjoy the food!) lol

[Bitsky]

Originally Posted by dooy

Thank you, Buttah! What a great testimony! Needed to hear that!

I, too, love how I feel! Today is our anniversary. Usually, I would use this as an excuse to chow down and pig out and then feel too bloated/stuffed to do anything. Tonight...totally different! DH made the most amazing steak (4oz measured out for each of us), baby bok choy in some kind of broth-based stock with onions and spices, THE most amazing Napa wine (two 4oz servings each!) and strawberries await us. We feel awesome! Sated, content, celebratory, and, well, ummm...good. I'll leave it at that Perfect evening without making food the centerpiece! We shall see how the scale treats this menu. I was totally on plan all day. Not worried.

Oh, and he's doing the dishes which is why I'm on here right now!

before I go to P2 thread though... Dooy, how did the menu treat you the next day?? I love the dishes comment!

[fiveninepointfive]

Originally Posted by dooy

SO sorry this may be an issue for you... Hopefully, it is not full-blown thyroid disease and it will be easy to treat. When you say "stabilized" how long have you been at the 5lbs above LDW? Are you eating up to your BMR in calories and holding? Are you planning to do another P2 round? Sorry for all the questions!

Hi, I hope all is well. I guess we all stabilize a few lbs over LDW. I am about four over lately. I am going to try to get back to LDW without any extreme measures.
I will go for my blood work tomorrow so I'll be tested for food allergies and get information re my hormone levels. Going to the doc is tough, but I am looking forward to getting the results.
I am not going to do another round any time soon. I'd like a break. However, last year, I did my second round six weeks after my first. I was happy with the outcome.

[fiveninepointfive]

Originally Posted by Bitsky

yep, thought I could do it... thought I could be here reading this thread while starting my P2... nope, already I'm craving all the things I will get to have again in 20 some days... oh the bacon.... bacon is mentioned in just about everyon'e msgs here lol It's my VLCD #1 so I will be keeping myself busy in a different thread and I'll be back here when I'm almost done!!
Happy eating everyone, you're in my thoughts. (mostly it's the bacon, but I think of all you ladies getting to enjoy the food!) lol

It got to me when loading P2s would pop in on the p2 thread and give detail of their menus! I feel your pain. Good Luck!

[Jeanyyy]

If anyone is looking, the P3 Recipe thread that Torister started is here... P3 Recipes - Feel free to add your own... and it has FOOD PORN!!

[torister]

Originally Posted by Jeanyyy

and it has FOOD PORN!!

[dooy]

Originally Posted by Bitsky

before I go to P2 thread though... Dooy, how did the menu treat you the next day?? I love the dishes comment!

Great, Bitsky!! Up only .2 so no real pain/gain!! Hoping it doesn't find me tomorrow but not worried. We did have another 4oz of wine, too... Hehe! Fun night!

On plan all day today, drinking plenty of water and feeling good!

[shelbyla]

Originally Posted by julieboolie

Hey Shelby-if you're still checking in here . I'll be in CA for a week Mar 2-9. If you're in Irvine at all that week maybe we could do lunch? Let me know . Looking forward to a relaxing beach week .

I am although super busy! Actually in Irvine today working with the new team. I'd love to have lunch. Tuesdays are usually good days for me to be here. How is Tuesday March 5th for you? Lmk...I will BBL, promise! Gotta get on the road before the traffic gets super nasty!

[sillyme]

Well so far scale seems to be treating me well in P3
LDW was 210.2
P3D1 i started at 208.6
P3D2 was 209
P3D3 was 210.2
P3D4 back to 208.8
Now keep in mind i don't always weigh at the same time because of my work schedule so this morning is 3 hours later than day 2 and 3 so i would say i've stayed pretty close to the same if i would have weighed at the same times daily. I added back in an ounce of cheese on my salad last night. I have to say i've missed it dearly but know its something i should be careful with!

[pandora174]

Morning all ! P4D12 & down -.6 to 128.8 so +.6 over ldw. Today going to have sweet potato again & see how it goes tomorrow. Then this weekend planning on a low carb bagel. Then after the 3rd week of P4 is done I am planning on eating like I am eating now but not entering my food in a food log.

Now if only I could get myself not to weigh in everyday. Once I am done in P4may try to do it every other day so I can try to break that routine.

[MOMMYONAMISSION]

I need your help ladies! I don't know what to do. I have been on a planned interruption for a week and a half. I had some sugar and carbs on Sunday. So I did a gy day on monday and then a steak day yesterday. So I weigh in today and I'm up 9 lbs still. I was planning on starting p2 again today. But.I didn't know I was up that much. I've had a few sips of coffee w hc so far today. Should I do another cd or just start the drops back today. I wanted to get to 175 this round, I was at like 180 at the beginning of the interruption

[torister]

Originally Posted by MOMMYONAMISSION

I need your help ladies! I don't know what to do. I have been on a planned interruption for a week and a half. I had some sugar and carbs on Sunday. So I did a gy day on monday and then a steak day yesterday. So I weigh in today and I'm up 9 lbs still. I was planning on starting p2 again today. But.I didn't know I was up that much. I've had a few sips of coffee w hc so far today. Should I do another cd or just start the drops back today. I wanted to get to 175 this round, I was at like 180 at the beginning of the interruption

I think the correction days become less effective when you are doing multiple ones in a week. It might be worth getting back into P2 for another couple of weeks to get back on track before you move into P3....