P3~P4 SIMEONS PROTOCOL FEBRUARY 2013

[pandora174]

Morning All !! Happy Valentine's Day

R4P4D6 & down -.8 to 129.0 so only +.8 over ldw. So just planning on eating clean for a few days and then just adding some time on my exercise bike. If the scale is stable will add back in nuts & some low carb bread this weekend & see how it goes.

Tonight we're going to a Mexican restaurant for dinner & planning on a steak & ceviche or avocado salad. No chips for me !!!

[julieboolie]

Pandora-you're doing great. Look where you are? Amazing!! Enjoy your Valentine's day!!

Originally Posted by shelbyla

Hi Julie! I know you didn't ask me about Hawaii but I'll chime in here as well. I have been to the Big Island, Kauai, and Maui. The Big Island is great for water sports (diving, snorkeling) and hiking inland but not so good for beaches or restaurants, etc. Kauai is awesome for hiking, beaches and adventure sports. They also have great places to stay and entertainment spots. Maui is a dream for beaches, restaurants and entertainment spots. I'd think you'd love Kauai, personally, given all the fun stuff you do with your family.

On the job, I actually just switched positions inside the firm. It's been busy but interesting and fun so far. I'm doing kind of the same stuff, just on a different project with different people.

On another note, is anyone else having problems posting? I'm getting some odd messages at times when I post.

So happy for Hawaii input!! You're advice is always welcome!! That does sound like a good fit for us. I'd like a few days of hiking/exploring - waterfalls, volcano etc. and a few days to lie around on the beach. Sounds good to me!! Glad you're able to stay w. the same company yet enjoy a new opportunity! Best of both worlds . I'm not having any trouble posting. Maybe you offended someone? I'm sure it's just an odd setting, check your user control panel settings. Enjoy your Valentine's Day w/ your sweetie!

Originally Posted by heahyou00

Julie- I am going to Kona this time, but have been to Hawaii many times, I LOVE Maui and I am thinking Kona is very similar. The first time I went, I went to Oahu and it was very packed with with people, prostitutes and just dirty, litter all over the streets, it reminded me of Vegas but with the pretty beach. But I mean you could barely find room to lay your towel down on the beach where we were, the north shore was nice and less people, but was a bit of a drive from where we stayed in Honolulu.

And thanks for the congrats on my weight loss, I have been battling it for a number of years now, but this is the first time I have made it this close to goal and have a clear head about what I need to keep doing to maintain and reach my goals!

Kelly

I hear you on the long road!! Seems endless. But I guess, if I want to maintain, I need to accept that I'll never be "done". I need to always keep up the work in order to maintain. It's kinda' a bummer, but to be "healthy and slimmer" it's worth it. I don't ever want to go back!! Kona? I'll look into that. Honolulu is the cheapest flights, so it's tempting to just go there. We'll see. Toying w. a cruise too. A bit of everything, free food and entertainment. Working on it. Dh is still hoping for Europe, but that's almost twice the cost!

Plugging away! Scale still UP, but feeling good. Sore from my workout yesterday, eating more protein and veggies. All good. Allowing for a treat today if I feel the need, but so far, not interested

Have a great Valentine's Day!!

[buttah]

Hey everyone! I feel like I need to keep posting here, but I have nothing really new to report. I'm eating things like "Just the Cheese" and mug cakes, and tons of my beloved sea weed snacks (probably too much salt), plenty of healthy fats, moderate amounts of nuts and yogurt, but not really any low carb bread or anything. No potatoes or corn ever. No sugar (I have enough substitutes).

I seem to have stabilized (once again) exactly 3 lbs above LDW. The only time the scale goes up higher is when I eat past hunger too much (which isn't too often or too much past hunger). When that happens I go back to eating only enough to maintain that "I could eat, but I don't have to" feeling all day and night (plus, I RARELY eat after dinner - huge change from my old life)... and the scale goes back down in 1-2 days. I don't do CD's ever. I did a couple after my first round, and I found the fix to be temporary and make me too hungry the next day. My version of "the fix" seems to be permanent. And feels far less obsessive and "crazy" than the CD's (for me - to each his own. ). But more important... it sticks.

So that's what I'm doin'!

[pandora174]

Morning ! Survived Valentine's Day ! R4P4D7 & +.2 to 129.2. Went to eat out which is the first time since Dec for me ! Had steak, veggies & salad with 3/4 of a glass of Champagne. Also they make the most amazing fresh salsa at your table. So had lots of that with a total of 3 corn tortillas. So happy that I didn't go up more but I was really careful for breakfast & lunch & avoided all candy, chocholate, cookies to be able to enjoy dinner.

Like I posted on another thread today I had been planning a GK day to just detox & get back to where I was before this exercise thing. I follow it with some high protein days. I feel more comfortable and so my size 4 pants at 126-127 vs 129/130. I love GY & I always feels so much better the day after (my stomach particularly).

In regards to the exercise I'm just going to stick to what worked for me in the past (light exercise on my bike 20-30 min. a day). Will do that & in a few weeks maybe I'll add some yoga. That's what I have come to realize I have to do what works for me and when I follow that it works out (like eating low carb/high protein/high fat vs adding all sorts of things in & now the exercise thing). I should of listened to my body when I was stiff and could barely move but I was so excited I could do a push up lol

Happy Friday everyone !!

[Shrinking]

Hello! I'm back

I begin P3 today. I had a long 48 day round that was slower losses than the first, but hey 22.5 lost is still great! I'm looking forward to eating some fat and moisturizing my scaly body!

I'm planning on taking GY to work with me for lunch and I want mushrooms and onions on my steak tonight. Mmmmm! Food!

[moonriver]

I'm in P4D2 and this am weighed in .2 BELOW LDW! Yippee!!

Haven't added any foods yet.

The one thing I left out of P3 was nuts and that has made a huge difference in stabilzation for me! Too bad because I LOVE nuts!!!

Obviously way too much though. "Bad Love".

[pandora174]

Morning All ! R4P4D8 and 1.4 under LDW so my GY (detox) netted me a 2.4 loss. Now for the next 2 days I do no carbs only protein/high fat & if I'm lucky I can stabilize again at this number like I did in P3.

Today just relaxing & watching movies & making a pork shoulder in the oven. I marinaded it all night with garlic/spices & low sodium mojo. Now in the oven for 4 hours until it's fall off the bone

Happy Saturday ladies

[torister]

P3D1 for me!!!

So far to day I have eaten:

Bfast: 2 crispy skin on chicken thighs
Snack: Medium DD iced coffee with HWC
L: Chicken thigh meat with broccoli cooked in olive oil with garlic and crushed red pepper
D: Looking forward to a ribeye with sauteed mushrooms and onions

[dooy]

Hi all! I'd like to officially introduce myself. I am starting my first day of P3 tomorrow after completing a cheat-free 40 day protocol on uni-med drops. I lost 20.4 lbs and now I weigh 152.4lbs - lowest weight in more than 6 years!

I plan on starting by including a low-carb protein shake in the morning (160 calories, 2 carbs, 30g protein), increasing veggies and doing some veggie combos like adding celery and onions to bok choy, tomatoes and cucs in a salad. I also plan to add some olive oil to our P2 salad dressing recipe.

Any other suggestions?

I am grateful that y'all are here and look forward to learning how to have a successful P3!

[dooy]

Originally Posted by torister

P3D1 for me!!!

So far to day I have eaten:

Bfast: 2 crispy skin on chicken thighs
Snack: Medium DD iced coffee with HWC
L: Chicken thigh meat with broccoli cooked in olive oil with garlic and crushed red pepper
D: Looking forward to a ribeye with sauteed mushrooms and onions

Nice to see you here, Torister!

[torister]

Originally Posted by dooy

Nice to see you here, Torister!

Backatcha! Enjoy your P3 and take it slow! Read labels for hidden sugars and starch!!

[MOMMYONAMISSION]

I have a question. Does all almond butter have sugar? Or do they sell sugar free almond butter?

[torister]

Originally Posted by MOMMYONAMISSION

I have a question. Does all almond butter have sugar? Or do they sell sugar free almond butter?

Just check the label. The one I have just lists almonds in the ingredients.

P3D2 for me and I am down 1.5 lbs! Go figure....altho I shouldn't be surprised as it was a very strange P2 this round!

I had leftover Chicken thigh meat with broccoli cooked in olive oil with garlic and crushed red pepper for Bfast this morning and I will be making carnitas this afternoon with a big ole pork butt I bought. YUM!

Have a great Sunday!!

[dooy]

Originally Posted by MOMMYONAMISSION

I have a question. Does all almond butter have sugar? Or do they sell sugar free almond butter?

Don't know if you have Kroeger's near you but they have an "organic/bulk" section where you just pour in the almonds and it grinds to whatever texture you want without any additives. I used this a lot with peanut and almond butter. Check out some of the grocery stores in your neighborhood for this feature!

[dooy]

Good morning ladies! Weighed the same this morning on D1 of P3.

Sooo excited to get this right and stabilize well.

Plan to add a Premier protein shake, extra veggies/protein at dinner and some added fat in my salad dressing.

I am struggling in my head with wanting to continue with weigh loss mode but I have yo-yo'd my entire adult life and need to go through the paces. Still not sure I want to do a P4...but will read along here for education and insight.

Wishing you all well!

[fiveninepointfive]

Originally Posted by dooy

Hi all! I'd like to officially introduce myself. I am starting my first day of P3 tomorrow after completing a cheat-free 40 day protocol on uni-med drops. I lost 20.4 lbs and now I weigh 152.4lbs - lowest weight in more than 6 years!

I plan on starting by including a low-carb protein shake in the morning (160 calories, 2 carbs, 30g protein), increasing veggies and doing some veggie combos like adding celery and onions to bok choy, tomatoes and cucs in a salad. I also plan to add some olive oil to our P2 salad dressing recipe.

Any other suggestions?

I am grateful that y'all are here and look forward to learning how to have a successful P3!

Congratulations! My advice is to go slow while introducing dairy, nuts, eggs. I don't want to be a drag, but real food (not shakes) is better for you. It's funny, I tried to start with a vanilla protein shake in my coffee on my first day of P3. The shake powder must have gone off while I was on P2. It was not good. My friend's words echoed in my head, "try not to eat something that you do not think tastes great." I dumped it.
Personally, I am not happy that I have stabilized five pounds over LDW. I believe I have thyroid and food sensitivites due to some symptoms I have that I have researched. I will be making an appointment with an endocrinologist for the next available appointment.
I hope you have the smoothest of P3s!
Good Luck!

[fiveninepointfive]

Here is a question for the experienced HCGers: When you fill out your medical history, do you include hcg?

[dooy]

Thanks fivenine! The thing is I have always hated breakfast but do need to get something in my stomach or I am queasy. The shakes were my "go-to" breakfast food, not b/c of dieting, but b/c they were easy to grab on the go. I totally get it about real food though...may try to throw in some eggs once in a while. This WOE requires a lot of planning and prep. I may need to just factor in cooking breakfast more often and having the shakes as a last resort. Oy.

[dooy]

Originally Posted by fiveninepointfive

Personally, I am not happy that I have stabilized five pounds over LDW. I believe I have thyroid and food sensitivites due to some symptoms I have that I have researched. I will be making an appointment with an endocrinologist for the next available appointment.
I hope you have the smoothest of P3s!
Good Luck!

SO sorry this may be an issue for you... Hopefully, it is not full-blown thyroid disease and it will be easy to treat. When you say "stabilized" how long have you been at the 5lbs above LDW? Are you eating up to your BMR in calories and holding? Are you planning to do another P2 round? Sorry for all the questions!

[sillyme]

YAY P3 Day 1. I've slowly upped by calories the last couple days, think i was somewhere around 750 yesterday and still down a pound today. LDW was 210.2 and today i'm at 208.6 so a little cushion although i hope not to go over the 210.2 ever, of course need to be realistic - sodium and all that stuff. Correction days don't sound fun to me so need to work this the right way and not have to do them!

[torister]

Originally Posted by dooy

Thanks fivenine! The thing is I have always hated breakfast but do need to get something in my stomach or I am queasy. The shakes were my "go-to" breakfast food, not b/c of dieting, but b/c they were easy to grab on the go. I totally get it about real food though...may try to throw in some eggs once in a while. This WOE requires a lot of planning and prep. I may need to just factor in cooking breakfast more often and having the shakes as a last resort. Oy.

Leftovers are your friend and sooooooo much better for you than a shake. When I am making a dish, I make enough for leftovers so I can have a quick breakfast or lunch ready if I am crunched for time. Full of good protein and good fats...its all good for you!!

[pandora174]

Originally Posted by fiveninepointfive

Here is a question for the experienced HCGers: When you fill out your medical history, do you include hcg?

I told my Dr. that I was on hHCG and even brought the bottle to show her She was very positive, her take better to lose weight that be morbidly obese like I was on 2 hbp medications & anxiety meds. I even told her the supplements I take & she also was very supportive. Whatever gets the job done she says ! So yes I tell my doctors about hcg.

[pandora174]

Morning ! R4P4D9 & up +1.6 but I am only +.2 over ldw so all is well. I didn't follow my own advice when I do a gy (detox day). I was supposed to have about 1K calories and that's how I lock in the loss from gy. But to be honest I wasn't in the mood. I think I am FINALLY accepting of this weight and just want to relax. I want to eat my food & yesterday I did 20 min of light exercise. I had 2 cream cheese muffins & about total of 1600-1700 calories for the day. I am trying to not focus so much on the scale and just enjoy this new body & relax a little. I need to get my head out of dieting mode for a while kwim ? It's all I've focused on for over a year & it's very hard to just "be".

So now I am focusing on maintaining & staying healthy and as long as I'm not over by 2 lbs from my ldw 128.2 I am not doing anything else to lower my weight. Now if during summer I decide I "really" want to get down to the low 120ish I have pellets & I'll do a full 21 day round. This will give me time to decide if I really do want to go lower or not & enjoy a few months of no dieting.

Tomorrow will try a slice of low carb bagel for breakfast & see how that goes. Then will add back sweet potato but that's as far as I'll go for a while. Happy Sunday ladies

[dooy]

Originally Posted by torister

Leftovers are your friend and sooooooo much better for you than a shake. When I am making a dish, I make enough for leftovers so I can have a quick breakfast or lunch ready if I am crunched for time. Full of good protein and good fats...its all good for you!!

Thanks! Good tip! I'll have to just suspend my weird thinking that chicken and beef are just for dinner!

[pandora174]

Originally Posted by dooy

Thanks! Good tip! I'll have to just suspend my weird thinking that chicken and beef are just for dinner!

My go to breakfast in P3/P4 are eggs. For work I'll boil 10 on Sunday for the work week. Then make egg salad for breakfast. Duke's mayo with a little mustard & some guacamole & very tasty. I'll also get some baggies with strawberries already cut & washed. I've also had sugar free sausage patties or even a burger patty for breakfast.

I agree with the left overs. They are a life saver. Right now I have ground chicken & turkey & pork in the fridge for lunch & dinner for today & tomorrow. Tomorrow I'll put a sirloin in the crock pot for Tues & Wed.

As long as I have my foods I find it is much easier to avoid temptation.

[buttah]

I'm still here. R2P4D11 and 3 lbs above LDW (1 above window) seems quite locked in. Depending on what I eat, how regular I am, how much water I'm retaining, how much exercise I get... it'll very by fractions. But always lands back here. I don't look or feel any different, nor do clothes fit any different than when I was at my LDW, body fat percentage is the same as LDW (good thing!) which Robin Woodall says is quite normal.

Enjoying life, enjoying food, enjoying my clothes. I think I will do round 3 after the recommended waiting time (I guess it's 8 weeks total between 2 and 3rd rounds, right?), but I will NOT do more than 21 days. Just not worth the measly losses I get the last couple weeks AT ALL.

[torister]

Anyone interested in a separate thread for P3 recipes? I know I can always use inspiration and variety?? I have a couple things I have made and will start it if anyone is interested....

[dooy]

Originally Posted by pandora174

My go to breakfast in P3/P4 are eggs. For work I'll boil 10 on Sunday for the work week. Then make egg salad for breakfast. Duke's mayo with a little mustard & some guacamole & very tasty. I'll also get some baggies with strawberries already cut & washed. I've also had sugar free sausage patties or even a burger patty for breakfast.

I agree with the left overs. They are a life saver. Right now I have ground chicken & turkey & pork in the fridge for lunch & dinner for today & tomorrow. Tomorrow I'll put a sirloin in the crock pot for Tues & Wed.

As long as I have my foods I find it is much easier to avoid temptation.

EGG SALAD!!! Perfect!! I also love sausage patties. What brand are you using that's sugar free??

[torister]

Egg salad is awesome with some chourico or linguica mixed in! YUM!

[pandora174]

Originally Posted by dooy

EGG SALAD!!! Perfect!! I also love sausage patties. What brand are you using that's sugar free??

I found Bob Evan's & some Johnsonville brands that have no carbs or sugar. I still read the label carefully.