Chapped Lips

SAHMIAM · 01-11-2013, 01:30 PM

Hi, Everyone. I'm on Day 9 of VLCD and my lips are so freaking chapped! It makes no sense because I'm drinking at least 110oz of water/day. Anyway, I'm being very strict with the "no oil" piece of HcG. So, after researching, I purchased coconut oil as that seems to be the only thing I can use without oil on my lips. And it's not working. Does anyone have any other NO OIL products that they can recommend? I'm dying here and have a long way to go! Thanks in advance!

shelbyla · 01-11-2013, 04:25 PM

Coconut oil (or any edible oil) is a no-no in P2, as either a body lotion or an ingestible.

From a former lip balm ADDICT, I started using regular Aquaphor in my first P2. It's awesome, not just on lips but on hands, elbows and heels. Get the regular stuff, NOT the stuff made for lips. They sell it in small, lip-balm sized tubes, near lotions in most drugstores, as well as in larger tubes.

FYI, regular lip balms have ingredients like mint, camphor, and other stuff that actually dries lips out. Thus keeping us addicted to lip balms...

I used to re-apply like 10 times a day. After using Aquaphor for a week, I started putting it on once in the morning and once before bed and that's IT.

Can't recommend it enough.

SAHMIAM · 01-11-2013, 05:07 PM

Shelby!!!! I'm a huge aquaphor fan - I use it constantly for my 3 kids. It's always in my house. But I thought I couldn't use it on HcG! I'm being very strict (oil-free shampoo, conditioner, soap, moisturizer, etc) and I thought Aquaphor was not allowed. THANK YOU!!! I so appreciate you taking the time to post. I've been so uncomfortable as I never have chapped lips. And when I do - it's not for long....BECAUSE I USE AQUAFOR. Ahhhh, relief. Thanks, again.

dawnyama · 01-11-2013, 05:08 PM

Vaseline is what I recommend. Coconut oil is an oil and is most definitely a NO NO on P2!!! I slather my hands with the vaseline at nighttime too. Works great overnight on the dry hands. I must say the Aquaphor is excellent too!!! I have used that in P2 and I liked it. I suggest either one.

Remember that Dr Simeons' suggested mineral oil as the ONLY acceptable oil while on P2.

SAHMIAM · 01-11-2013, 05:46 PM

Thanks for posting, Dawn. Hmmmm, I actually read somewhere that coconut oil is the only "good oil" to use on HcG. And to use - I mean on lip and skin - not in food. But now I just looked at ingredients in Aquaphor and Vaseline - both have mineral oil. I guess that's okay? I'm so confused!

dawnyama · 01-11-2013, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SAHMIAM

Thanks for posting, Dawn. Hmmmm, I actually read somewhere that coconut oil is the only "good oil" to use on HcG. And to use - I mean on lip and skin - not in food. But now I just looked at ingredients in Aquaphor and Vaseline - both have mineral oil. I guess that's okay? I'm so confused!

Yup. I just said that Dr S wrote in Pounds and Inches that mineral oil was the ONLY oil to use on P2. It is in the original Pounds and Inches and the one I refer to when I say P & I--not any updated version by anyone else. Not sure who says to use coconut oil, but that IS absorbed by the skin as if you had ingested it. They even tell you that if you cannot tolerate it by spoon to spread it on the skin to absorb it. Mineral oil will not be absorbed by the skin, therefore won't effect you on P2.

SAHMIAM · 01-11-2013, 05:58 PM

I don't know what to write. THANK YOU. This is crazy. I've slowed down on my weight loss - could it really be because I'm slathering the coconut oil on?!?! Wow, I'm so glad I posted. And so appreciative you cared enough to clarify.

dawnyama · 01-11-2013, 06:00 PM

Yes, that could be a hold up to why you have not lost weight. I hope you have not used it for too long. Aquaphor will be lifesaving for you!! So glad you already have it.

dawnyama · 01-11-2013, 06:01 PM

Oh, coconut oil is fine for P3. I use it very liberally for everything from oil pulling, to moisturizer on my face, to cooking/baking in the kitchen with it. But on P2 I cut it out!!! I can go without for 21 days. The weight loss is worth doing without.

SAHMIAM · 01-11-2013, 06:03 PM

And I'm going to freaking read the original P&I I have printed out. Haven't had a chance but OBVIOUSLY need to make it a priority.

SAHMIAM · 01-11-2013, 06:04 PM

I've been applying it CONSTANTLY since Saturday. Ugh. And I've never used or owned coconut oil in my life!!!

buttah · 01-11-2013, 08:10 PM

Well, the doc and "hcg nutritionist" at my clinic say coconut oil is one of the approved moisturizers for P2, and I've used it almost every other day on my face. Has no effect on my loss WHATSOEVER. (I did two weeks without it to test). It's similar to baby oil or something in how it does or doesn't absorb on skin. (I do not, however, cook with it!).

Having said that, I don't believe the whole oil on skin thingie anyway, AND the internist who runs the clinic I do HCG through confessed to me that she doesn't either. (Although she advises people to follow the protocol). It's just bad funky wrong science. We can't get nutrition through our skin from over the counter moisturizers. If we could... if they were absorbed into the bloodstream, they would need FDA approval. If we could, you could feed a man in a coma by rubbing a steak on his belly.

Just don't EAT the coconut oil!

And you will find many here who use all their regular products on protocol. I'm guessing if Simeons were alive today, he'd have lifted the ban!

I would get those lips feeling better any way you can. I'm surprised CO isn't doing it. Are you using the extra virgin stuff... kind of white and thick, in a jar, before you put it on?

C'Marie · 01-11-2013, 10:32 PM

I'm kind of on the fence about coconut oil being on the skin and being absorbed - I mean, I take certain medications prescribed to me by a medical doctor which I rub on my skin, and for the price I'm paying they better freaking be being absorbed! So I know what you're saying, Buttah, (and LOL about rubbing a steak on the belly of a man in a coma!) but I think there are exceptions to that and if someone has slowed down in loss and has been slathering it on, makes me go hmmmm...... and if it's going on my lips I'm sure going to be "eating" it - can't help it!

dawnyama · 01-12-2013, 05:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAHMIAM

And I'm going to freaking read the original P&I I have printed out. Haven't had a chance but OBVIOUSLY need to make it a priority.

I have never read it all the way through myself

I find it quite boring. Good luck with it!!!

buttah · 01-12-2013, 06:49 AM

C'Marie, prescription creams are different than OTC. That is why they require a prescription. Regular lotions and creams do not need a prescription BECAUSE they are not absorbed into the blood stream. That's what I meant by saying if they did, they'd require FDA approval. I should have said "they'd require FDA approval and a prescription."

All my cousins are doctors. In 2013. They laugh at the idea of OTC creams giving us calories through the skin. But I agree that putting CO too close to the mouth might mean ingesting some - and THAT does go into our bodies.

dawnyama · 01-12-2013, 07:03 AM

Sorry you laugh at me buttah, but I still have the belief that you should not use coconut oil for anything on P2. No one can change my mind on that!

buttah · 01-12-2013, 07:52 AM

I would never laugh at you, Dawn! But I will tell you that putting CO on my skin, as the internist at my HCG clinic predicted, made absolutely no difference to my weight loss in either round (nor did it affect her own rounds). Nor did whatever shampoos I use. I just had softer skin!

And even if you believe Dr. S's theory about absorption, like I said, according to my clinic (and others), CO has similar properties to mineral oil as far as that goes. They don't publicly tell people to ignore the "lotions and products" rules (although they privately think it's bogus), but they DO have CO on their list of "approved HCG products" right below mineral oil.

C'Marie · 01-12-2013, 12:52 PM

I know this thread is about chapped lips, and lips do absorb (or we eat it, LOL) more than skin does, so here's my question off topic!? :::

I use magnesium gel and magnesium spray, it's called "magnesium oil," but it's not really oil, that's just what it's called - it feels oily but it's from magnesium salts. Then I put 70% DMSO mixed with aloe-vera gel 30% over top of it to push it through the tissues faster. I also use a homeopathic lotion traumeel. I am going to continue that through P2. I do it a few times a week, when my hip is really sore. Do you think it would or would not impact losses? I think it decreases swelling, which would reduce inflammation. Sometimes that is the only thing that helps.

shelbyla · 01-12-2013, 02:02 PM

C'Marie - I used magnesium oil through all my rounds and never had an issue with it. I'm not sure what 70% DMSO is but I DID shy away from anything with aloe vera in it. Traumeel should be fine if you are still doing injections. Because of the camphor etc. I would be worried about it with homeopathic but I think with rx it will be ok. I love Traumeel but there is another product that really helps me if I have the kind of pain you are describing: Sin Sin Mulpas. It's a Korean product and it really works. It's also in a liquid form as opposed to a gel or a cream.

C'Marie · 01-12-2013, 02:08 PM

DMSO is approved for use on horses as a muscle rub and is also approved for limited use on humans injected into the bladder for a certain kind of bladder disorder (where the lining of the bladder hardens? not positive) so it's sold as a "solvent" (for example, water is a solvent!) but is very helpful for aching. A doctor at OHSU here in Oregon had a study going for a long time where he actually gave people DMSO intraveneously for arthritis and got good results but they end up smelling like garlic as a side effect. I'm not afraid of it at all despite what the stupid FDA says, I've used it in my family since I was a kid, the only thing you have to be concerned with is what is on your skin as you apply it because it will make you absorb much better whatever - so like nothing toxic on the skin at all prior to application. I get the kind that is 70% with 30% aloe vera so it's not as stingy on the skin. I used aloe vera on a detox rash on my very first round, so I've had good experience with it. I'm surprised you say you avoid it?

Do I just do a google search on the Korean med? Never ever heard of that one!

shelbyla · 01-12-2013, 02:20 PM

Interesting on the DMSO. I'll have to look into that. On the aloe, I wasn't sure so I just avoided it. Lol Google SinSin Mulpas and it comes right up.

SAHMIAM · 01-12-2013, 03:09 PM

This stuff is so interesting. Well, I'm extremely relieved after having only applied Aquaphor 2x. I swear I was putting CO on once an hour all day! And I'm so discouraged - scale STS today. It's Day 10 in P2. I have a lot to lose and I'm hoping it's just a hiccup. Thanks again to all of you for your feedback!

01-11-2013, 01:30 PM	#1
SAHMIAM Junior LCF Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 29 Gallery: SAHMIAM Stats: 209.5/175.0/140 5'5" WOE: HcG Start Date: January 1, 2013	Chapped Lips Hi, Everyone. I'm on Day 9 of VLCD and my lips are so freaking chapped! It makes no sense because I'm drinking at least 110oz of water/day. Anyway, I'm being very strict with the "no oil" piece of HcG. So, after researching, I purchased coconut oil as that seems to be the only thing I can use without oil on my lips. And it's not working. Does anyone have any other NO OIL products that they can recommend? I'm dying here and have a long way to go! Thanks in advance!

01-11-2013, 04:25 PM	#2
shelbyla Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 4,673 Gallery: shelbyla Stats: 210/141/140 WOE: hhCG, rx hCG Start Date: rx hCG R5 start 08/11/12	Coconut oil (or any edible oil) is a no-no in P2, as either a body lotion or an ingestible. From a former lip balm ADDICT, I started using regular Aquaphor in my first P2. It's awesome, not just on lips but on hands, elbows and heels. Get the regular stuff, NOT the stuff made for lips. They sell it in small, lip-balm sized tubes, near lotions in most drugstores, as well as in larger tubes. FYI, regular lip balms have ingredients like mint, camphor, and other stuff that actually dries lips out. Thus keeping us addicted to lip balms... I used to re-apply like 10 times a day. After using Aquaphor for a week, I started putting it on once in the morning and once before bed and that's IT. Can't recommend it enough. __________________ Pre-hhCG cleanse (P1) - 01/03/2011, 12 days, 210 -> 200 hhCG round 1 - 01/15/2011, 32 days, drops, 10/10/10, 200 -> 175 hhCG round 2 - 04/15/2011, 38 days, drops & pellets, 10/4/10, 177 -> 154 hhCG round 3 - 01/03/2012, 23 days, pellets, 3/3/3, 157 -> 141 _hCG round 4 - 05/05/2012, 24 days, rx hCG, 125IU, 148 -> 136 _hCG round 5 - 08/11/2012, 26 days, rx hCG, 125IU, 159 -> 140 Last edited by shelbyla; 01-11-2013 at 04:26 PM..

01-11-2013, 08:10 PM	#12
buttah Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 1,737 Gallery: buttah Stats: 189/136/135-138 WOE: P3 w/a dash of P4 + Hunger Scale forever Start Date: LowCal/Dukan/JUDD 2/12-8/12, then 3 rounds rxHCG	Well, the doc and "hcg nutritionist" at my clinic say coconut oil is one of the approved moisturizers for P2, and I've used it almost every other day on my face. Has no effect on my loss WHATSOEVER. (I did two weeks without it to test). It's similar to baby oil or something in how it does or doesn't absorb on skin. (I do not, however, cook with it!). Having said that, I don't believe the whole oil on skin thingie anyway, AND the internist who runs the clinic I do HCG through confessed to me that she doesn't either. (Although she advises people to follow the protocol). It's just bad funky wrong science. We can't get nutrition through our skin from over the counter moisturizers. If we could... if they were absorbed into the bloodstream, they would need FDA approval. If we could, you could feed a man in a coma by rubbing a steak on his belly. Just don't EAT the coconut oil! And you will find many here who use all their regular products on protocol. I'm guessing if Simeons were alive today, he'd have lifted the ban! I would get those lips feeling better any way you can. I'm surprised CO isn't doing it. Are you using the extra virgin stuff... kind of white and thick, in a jar, before you put it on? __________________ OMG, GOAL! Visit my HCG Journal Click here for a visual of my entire weight loss journey (pretty easy to see the HCG rounds!) Last edited by buttah; 01-11-2013 at 08:14 PM..

01-11-2013, 10:32 PM	#13
C'Marie Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 4,045 Gallery: C'Marie Stats: 270/down 110-ish/ goal 147 WOE: hCG Rx shots/JUDDD maintain Start Date: 1/4/2010 Now R9 P2	I'm kind of on the fence about coconut oil being on the skin and being absorbed - I mean, I take certain medications prescribed to me by a medical doctor which I rub on my skin, and for the price I'm paying they better freaking be being absorbed! So I know what you're saying, Buttah, (and LOL about rubbing a steak on the belly of a man in a coma!) but I think there are exceptions to that and if someone has slowed down in loss and has been slathering it on, makes me go hmmmm...... and if it's going on my lips I'm sure going to be "eating" it - can't help it! __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~* HCG Rx to lose - JUDDD to maintain

01-12-2013, 06:49 AM	#15
buttah Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 1,737 Gallery: buttah Stats: 189/136/135-138 WOE: P3 w/a dash of P4 + Hunger Scale forever Start Date: LowCal/Dukan/JUDD 2/12-8/12, then 3 rounds rxHCG	C'Marie, prescription creams are different than OTC. That is why they require a prescription. Regular lotions and creams do not need a prescription BECAUSE they are not absorbed into the blood stream. That's what I meant by saying if they did, they'd require FDA approval. I should have said "they'd require FDA approval and a prescription." All my cousins are doctors. In 2013. They laugh at the idea of OTC creams giving us calories through the skin. But I agree that putting CO too close to the mouth might mean ingesting some - and THAT does go into our bodies. Last edited by buttah; 01-12-2013 at 06:51 AM..

01-11-2013, 05:07 PM	#3
SAHMIAM Junior LCF Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 29 Gallery: SAHMIAM Stats: 209.5/175.0/140 5'5" WOE: HcG Start Date: January 1, 2013	Shelby!!!! I'm a huge aquaphor fan - I use it constantly for my 3 kids. It's always in my house. But I thought I couldn't use it on HcG! I'm being very strict (oil-free shampoo, conditioner, soap, moisturizer, etc) and I thought Aquaphor was not allowed. THANK YOU!!! I so appreciate you taking the time to post. I've been so uncomfortable as I never have chapped lips. And when I do - it's not for long....BECAUSE I USE AQUAFOR. Ahhhh, relief. Thanks, again.

01-11-2013, 05:08 PM	#4
dawnyama Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Irmo, SC Posts: 21,265 Gallery: dawnyama Stats: 154/???/115 5'4" WOE: Hhcg/Rwhatever P2 Start Date: 6/1/09	Vaseline is what I recommend. Coconut oil is an oil and is most definitely a NO NO on P2!!! I slather my hands with the vaseline at nighttime too. Works great overnight on the dry hands. I must say the Aquaphor is excellent too!!! I have used that in P2 and I liked it. I suggest either one. Remember that Dr Simeons' suggested mineral oil as the ONLY acceptable oil while on P2.

01-11-2013, 05:46 PM	#5
SAHMIAM Junior LCF Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 29 Gallery: SAHMIAM Stats: 209.5/175.0/140 5'5" WOE: HcG Start Date: January 1, 2013	Thanks for posting, Dawn. Hmmmm, I actually read somewhere that coconut oil is the only "good oil" to use on HcG. And to use - I mean on lip and skin - not in food. But now I just looked at ingredients in Aquaphor and Vaseline - both have mineral oil. I guess that's okay? I'm so confused!

01-11-2013, 05:58 PM	#7
SAHMIAM Junior LCF Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 29 Gallery: SAHMIAM Stats: 209.5/175.0/140 5'5" WOE: HcG Start Date: January 1, 2013	I don't know what to write. THANK YOU. This is crazy. I've slowed down on my weight loss - could it really be because I'm slathering the coconut oil on?!?! Wow, I'm so glad I posted. And so appreciative you cared enough to clarify.

01-11-2013, 06:00 PM	#8
dawnyama Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Irmo, SC Posts: 21,265 Gallery: dawnyama Stats: 154/???/115 5'4" WOE: Hhcg/Rwhatever P2 Start Date: 6/1/09	Yes, that could be a hold up to why you have not lost weight. I hope you have not used it for too long. Aquaphor will be lifesaving for you!! So glad you already have it.

01-11-2013, 06:01 PM	#9
dawnyama Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Irmo, SC Posts: 21,265 Gallery: dawnyama Stats: 154/???/115 5'4" WOE: Hhcg/Rwhatever P2 Start Date: 6/1/09	Oh, coconut oil is fine for P3. I use it very liberally for everything from oil pulling, to moisturizer on my face, to cooking/baking in the kitchen with it. But on P2 I cut it out!!! I can go without for 21 days. The weight loss is worth doing without.

01-11-2013, 06:03 PM	#10
SAHMIAM Junior LCF Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 29 Gallery: SAHMIAM Stats: 209.5/175.0/140 5'5" WOE: HcG Start Date: January 1, 2013	And I'm going to freaking read the original P&I I have printed out. Haven't had a chance but OBVIOUSLY need to make it a priority.

01-11-2013, 06:04 PM	#11
SAHMIAM Junior LCF Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 29 Gallery: SAHMIAM Stats: 209.5/175.0/140 5'5" WOE: HcG Start Date: January 1, 2013	I've been applying it CONSTANTLY since Saturday. Ugh. And I've never used or owned coconut oil in my life!!!

01-12-2013, 07:03 AM	#16
dawnyama Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Irmo, SC Posts: 21,265 Gallery: dawnyama Stats: 154/???/115 5'4" WOE: Hhcg/Rwhatever P2 Start Date: 6/1/09	Sorry you laugh at me buttah, but I still have the belief that you should not use coconut oil for anything on P2. No one can change my mind on that!

01-12-2013, 07:52 AM	#17
buttah Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 1,737 Gallery: buttah Stats: 189/136/135-138 WOE: P3 w/a dash of P4 + Hunger Scale forever Start Date: LowCal/Dukan/JUDD 2/12-8/12, then 3 rounds rxHCG	I would never laugh at you, Dawn! But I will tell you that putting CO on my skin, as the internist at my HCG clinic predicted, made absolutely no difference to my weight loss in either round (nor did it affect her own rounds). Nor did whatever shampoos I use. I just had softer skin! And even if you believe Dr. S's theory about absorption, like I said, according to my clinic (and others), CO has similar properties to mineral oil as far as that goes. They don't publicly tell people to ignore the "lotions and products" rules (although they privately think it's bogus), but they DO have CO on their list of "approved HCG products" right below mineral oil.

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01-12-2013, 12:52 PM	#18
C'Marie Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 4,045 Gallery: C'Marie Stats: 270/down 110-ish/ goal 147 WOE: hCG Rx shots/JUDDD maintain Start Date: 1/4/2010 Now R9 P2	I know this thread is about chapped lips, and lips do absorb (or we eat it, LOL) more than skin does, so here's my question off topic!? ::: I use magnesium gel and magnesium spray, it's called "magnesium oil," but it's not really oil, that's just what it's called - it feels oily but it's from magnesium salts. Then I put 70% DMSO mixed with aloe-vera gel 30% over top of it to push it through the tissues faster. I also use a homeopathic lotion traumeel. I am going to continue that through P2. I do it a few times a week, when my hip is really sore. Do you think it would or would not impact losses? I think it decreases swelling, which would reduce inflammation. Sometimes that is the only thing that helps.

01-12-2013, 02:02 PM	#19
shelbyla Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 4,673 Gallery: shelbyla Stats: 210/141/140 WOE: hhCG, rx hCG Start Date: rx hCG R5 start 08/11/12	C'Marie - I used magnesium oil through all my rounds and never had an issue with it. I'm not sure what 70% DMSO is but I DID shy away from anything with aloe vera in it. Traumeel should be fine if you are still doing injections. Because of the camphor etc. I would be worried about it with homeopathic but I think with rx it will be ok. I love Traumeel but there is another product that really helps me if I have the kind of pain you are describing: Sin Sin Mulpas. It's a Korean product and it really works. It's also in a liquid form as opposed to a gel or a cream.

01-12-2013, 02:08 PM	#20
C'Marie Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 4,045 Gallery: C'Marie Stats: 270/down 110-ish/ goal 147 WOE: hCG Rx shots/JUDDD maintain Start Date: 1/4/2010 Now R9 P2	DMSO is approved for use on horses as a muscle rub and is also approved for limited use on humans injected into the bladder for a certain kind of bladder disorder (where the lining of the bladder hardens? not positive) so it's sold as a "solvent" (for example, water is a solvent!) but is very helpful for aching. A doctor at OHSU here in Oregon had a study going for a long time where he actually gave people DMSO intraveneously for arthritis and got good results but they end up smelling like garlic as a side effect. I'm not afraid of it at all despite what the stupid FDA says, I've used it in my family since I was a kid, the only thing you have to be concerned with is what is on your skin as you apply it because it will make you absorb much better whatever - so like nothing toxic on the skin at all prior to application. I get the kind that is 70% with 30% aloe vera so it's not as stingy on the skin. I used aloe vera on a detox rash on my very first round, so I've had good experience with it. I'm surprised you say you avoid it? Do I just do a google search on the Korean med? Never ever heard of that one! Last edited by C'Marie; 01-12-2013 at 02:11 PM..

01-12-2013, 02:20 PM	#21
shelbyla Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 4,673 Gallery: shelbyla Stats: 210/141/140 WOE: hhCG, rx hCG Start Date: rx hCG R5 start 08/11/12	Interesting on the DMSO. I'll have to look into that. On the aloe, I wasn't sure so I just avoided it. Lol Google SinSin Mulpas and it comes right up.

01-12-2013, 03:09 PM	#22
SAHMIAM Junior LCF Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 29 Gallery: SAHMIAM Stats: 209.5/175.0/140 5'5" WOE: HcG Start Date: January 1, 2013	This stuff is so interesting. Well, I'm extremely relieved after having only applied Aquaphor 2x. I swear I was putting CO on once an hour all day! And I'm so discouraged - scale STS today. It's Day 10 in P2. I have a lot to lose and I'm hoping it's just a hiccup. Thanks again to all of you for your feedback!