P3~P4 SIMEONS PROTOCOL JANUARY 2013

[pandora174]

Morning Ladies ! P3D5 & up +.06 from my ldw but still well within window. I was sure today I was going to do a CD since by last night when I looked at my calories I was over 1700 I was craving chicken liver (I know gross) & I bought & fried some and added lemon & hot sauce. They were delicious (to me anyway) & I had them with a small Hass avocado with Duke's mayo. I had a serving at dinner time but at 8 pm I was hungry so I finished them all off

I also ran out of bottled water so I just drank coffee/tea & I know my water intake was way too low for the day. Today going to reign it back in a little calorie wise and up my water. So far so good (cross my fingers).

Have a great Thursday

[julieboolie]

Pandora-you are rocking it!! WTG!!

Originally Posted by buttah

I've basically purchased an entire new wardrobe. Spent a fortune, but I deserve it. I know I may get smaller, but I can't imagine wearing a smaller size than I already am. I can't believe what fits. Wearing nothing but skinny jeans with boots (even tucked in) and fitted jackets and tops. Had dinner with a business associate last night who was freaking out over me. (45 lbs in about a year) So wonderful!

Love it!! Enjoy it! you've earned it!!

Originally Posted by MOMMYONAMISSION

I know I used to hate dresses I felt to big to be in one. I felt like I looked to awkward in them. Now I just love dresses. I feel all girly and pretty lol

Good! you should feel pretty!! WTG!!

Originally Posted by fiveninepointfive

Today, I went for a spa massage with one of my gfs. It was to celebrate her bday. It was during last year's spa day that I made my mind up to do HCG and make the necessary changes in my life to better myself inside and out. I realized and it made me smile.
So I am about five days into P3. I am creeping up a little each day, but I am also introducing dairy and nuts so it is to be expected. I am not worried...yet. I just wanted to check in and say thanks to all of you for your support.

How neat!!! What a way to celebrate all you've accomplished and remember!!

Originally Posted by LaraSuzz

Hi Julie!!P3 im here. I ate at exactly 72 hours I was really hungry. I promise to take it easy. I have 5 lbs wiggle room.

my tummy is already saying WTH??? It's ok tummy, remember food? You'll be ok.

Usually by the end of a round my skin looks tired withered saggy but this time every morning and night I would slather myself in vaseline and im happy to say im more plump if you know what I mean... honestly I used conditioner the whole time an dI put it on my scalp.
Tea Tree shampoo with make the flakes go away. vaseline on the hands!!


good for you girl!! You deserve it!!

aw!!!! what a lucky kid!
Would you like to adopt a 41 year old?
lol

I was at Costco yesterday and a guy totally was staring at me... and smiling. good feeling. I love it when the guys go gaga. I still have weight to loose but baby steps right now. love Lara

Woohoo!! Great round!! Lots of wiggle room. Attention from boys. All good stuff!! Be proud, be happy!!

Originally Posted by dooy

Well, it finally happened: 1.2 gain.

I did absolutely nothing differently so I know this is just my body doing its thing. I did miss a fruit last night b/c I had a late dinner but I've done that before without incident. No crazy additional salt...no cheats, everything weighed and measured.

I was 160.4 yesterday and so excited about the possibility of being in the 150s today. I'm staying the course and will hope to see this spike up gone tomorrow.

This is where I have to take control over my thoughts and just relax. What diet have I ever been on that has had this quick a weight loss without hunger and some kind of consequence?! This is where remembering all of your posts about your own experiences really helps! I refuse to panic. At least not today!

You've got the right attitude. Even though it stinks, you know it'll go. 150's here you come!!

I'm still in my first week of real JUDDD. I'm doing a DD today and so far, so good. But, it's only 8am. It just feels like an every other day P2 phase. Not sure I'm going to like this. We'll see. Too soon to tell. IF I can lose doing this, I will. But if It's only a lb a week, then I'll probably do the hcg round and really lose. So far, so good.

Working out still. At least 3 good workouts a week, more if I can squeeze it in. I want this to be my normal routine and keep it there. I haven't been consistent lately and want to re-establish this as "normal".

[buttah]

Hi Julie!!!! So good to see you again!

I swear I really got used to my DD's as much as UD's after a week or so on JUDDD. In the JUDDD forum, you'll hear that over and over again - people even saying they "enjoy" their DD's. I think what they enjoy is the feeling of control, of that "skinny gene" giving them energy and knowing they can eat the next day. I found ways to get the most out of my DD calories, and somehow, just knowing I could "eat" the very next day made it very possible. I also rarely went below 600 calories on my DD's, and I still lost. (I also didn't overeat on my UD's, ever - very important.) For me the trick was protein and fat (bulked up with veggies and Miracle noodles) on DD's and having starch/sugar only sparingly on UD's - like a normal person who doesn't go crazy (I know - easier said than done). DD's were easier than P2 choice-wise, but yes, a bit hungrier (I was never "not even hungry" w/HCG, so I don't know what that's like!), but again... just one day and you can eat!

Plugging along in P3, I have had nuts, SF chocolate, dairy, everything except carbs and sugar (except some accidental ketchup). My experience? NOTHING, and I mean nothing hurts me AS LONG AS I only eat enough to remove hunger! I truly, honestly sincerely believe that for most of us it's quantities and not specific food "sensitivities" that make people gain-back in P3.

Yesterday I just plain was not hungry for dinner. So I didn't have any! Imagine that!

Am I worried about my calories being "too low" yesterday? Not one little darn bit. They'll be higher today, I can assure you.

Just my two cents. Securely in my window for about a week and a half now and feeling GOOD!

Oh, and even though I'm a pound and change above LDW (still in window, though!), my body fat has gone DOWN since my LDW. Just like Robin said it might. Yay! I "really" weigh less.

[LaraSuzz]

Originally Posted by Jeanyyy

Hi, Lara!!

What vaseline experiment? Do tell !! I'm having trouble with very dry scalp... complete with flakes. I'm sure it is because of the "no fat" thing but not sure what to do about it. I just bought some Selsun Blue shampoo tonight so hoping that might help. I also noticed that my hands are looking really, really dry.

I meant Neutrogena T-Gel shampoo!!

[julieboolie]

Originally Posted by buttah

Hi Julie!!!! So good to see you again!

I swear I really got used to my DD's as much as UD's after a week or so on JUDDD. In the JUDDD forum, you'll hear that over and over again - people even saying they "enjoy" their DD's. I think what they enjoy is the feeling of control, of that "skinny gene" giving them energy and knowing they can eat the next day. I found ways to get the most out of my DD calories, and somehow, just knowing I could "eat" the very next day made it very possible. I also rarely went below 600 calories on my DD's, and I still lost. (I also didn't overeat on my UD's, ever - very important.) For me the trick was protein and fat (bulked up with veggies and Miracle noodles) on DD's and having starch/sugar only sparingly on UD's - like a normal person who doesn't go crazy (I know - easier said than done). DD's were easier than P2 choice-wise, but yes, a bit hungrier (I was never "not even hungry" w/HCG, so I don't know what that's like!), but again... just one day and you can eat!

Plugging along in P3, I have had nuts, SF chocolate, dairy, everything except carbs and sugar (except some accidental ketchup). My experience? NOTHING, and I mean nothing hurts me AS LONG AS I only eat enough to remove hunger! I truly, honestly sincerely believe that for most of us it's quantities and not specific food "sensitivities" that make people gain-back in P3.

Yesterday I just plain was not hungry for dinner. So I didn't have any! Imagine that!

Am I worried about my calories being "too low" yesterday? Not one little darn bit. They'll be higher today, I can assure you.

Just my two cents. Securely in my window for about a week and a half now and feeling GOOD!

Oh, and even though I'm a pound and change above LDW (still in window, though!), my body fat has gone DOWN since my LDW. Just like Robin said it might. Yay! I "really" weigh less.

Thanks Buttah! I'm gonna' make some cabbage P2 style today for lunch and see how I feel. Not bad today so far, and I do like that "light" feeling you have on P2, kwim? Congrats on sticking your window!! WTG!!! I knew you'd do well. Eating only when hungry? Hard to do, I'm sure, but so effective!! Great job!! Enjoy your success and living life to the fullest as a skinny, healthy you!!

[buttah]

Julie, I found 500/600 calories difficult to do without some fat to keep me satiated. So if I made a P2 type dish, it would be with a bit of oil (coconut is my fave) to cook the meat/chicken. KWIM? ometimes I added cabbage AND miracle noodles. But be aware the the miracle noodles can stick in your system for a day, so if you're not doing something to stay regular, you may think you have a gain. You also can't sweat the scale's small ups and downs on JUDDD. They are natural. I think that might be hard for you at first, but it does teach you that the DAILY scale is not an accurate reflection of where you are.

And I would have more fat/protein calories and skip fruit on DD's. It just made me last longer.

[fiveninepointfive]

Pandora, great job! My fingers are crossed for you.
Buttah, you are a good example to follow, especially shopping wise.
Mommy, keep wearing those dresses.
Lara, I'll have to follow your skin care plan -- if there is a next time.
Dooy, you have the right attitude. Do all your detox stuff, flush your system, take a bath, relax. Hopefully, you'll see the 150s tomorrow.
Julie, Thanks! JUDD sounds interesting. I'll have to follow it and check it out.


I had an off day today. I tried to keep it P2 style, but I was not up for the challenge. I was up today, maybe, from some almond butter. I hope I don't have to do a correction day tomorrow. I don't eat steak, greek yogurt, eggs or chicken. It is basically a nut day for me or bust. I am not up for a CD yet.
Wish me luck!

[julieboolie]

Originally Posted by buttah

Julie, I found 500/600 calories difficult to do without some fat to keep me satiated. So if I made a P2 type dish, it would be with a bit of oil (coconut is my fave) to cook the meat/chicken. KWIM? ometimes I added cabbage AND miracle noodles. But be aware the the miracle noodles can stick in your system for a day, so if you're not doing something to stay regular, you may think you have a gain. You also can't sweat the scale's small ups and downs on JUDDD. They are natural. I think that might be hard for you at first, but it does teach you that the DAILY scale is not an accurate reflection of where you are.

And I would have more fat/protein calories and skip fruit on DD's. It just made me last longer.

THanks. Yes, I am seeing that. Today I STS after a dd yesterday. I think I was more like 600cals yesterday, instead of 500. But I was hungry!! I'll take a scale break and check it weekly on Monday's. Did you do the full rotation for the first 2 weeks then add a MD? I'm not sure I'll want to do DDs every weekend? I'm fine for now, trying to do the "induction" period strictly. Did you do it LC? I'm trying for that, but hoping I won't have to stay stict LC since I'm doing the strict calories. Working on it . I kept my cream in my coffee, even though it limits my eating the rest of the day. I stay full from that until lunch, then had some sauteed cabbage (80cals!) and was full until dinner. Hope it works for me!

Originally Posted by fiveninepointfive

Pandora, great job! My fingers are crossed for you.
Buttah, you are a good example to follow, especially shopping wise.
Mommy, keep wearing those dresses.
Lara, I'll have to follow your skin care plan -- if there is a next time.
Dooy, you have the right attitude. Do all your detox stuff, flush your system, take a bath, relax. Hopefully, you'll see the 150s tomorrow.
Julie, Thanks! JUDD sounds interesting. I'll have to follow it and check it out.


I had an off day today. I tried to keep it P2 style, but I was not up for the challenge. I was up today, maybe, from some almond butter. I hope I don't have to do a correction day tomorrow. I don't eat steak, greek yogurt, eggs or chicken. It is basically a nut day for me or bust. I am not up for a CD yet.
Wish me luck!

So far, so good . Maybe that bacon day Lara invented? IF you need one. You're doing great. 1 day at a time!

I'm still JUDDDing. I'm on my second UD today. I like these better . I'm taking a break from the scale (even though the scientist in me wants to know what's happening each day) and will count Monday's weight only. I am wokring out too which will mess w. the scale. A week from Mon. will be the end of the "induction" phase of JUDDD and I will re-evaluate where I am. Until then, onward!!

[pandora174]

Morning Ladies ! P3D6 & up +.04 but still only +.08 over ldw. Do not like to see that scale go up but I tell myself it is much better than any other round so far & it is part of stabilizing. Need to get over it. But I do know that I'm bot scared of the scale like I usually am. I "hope" not to see it go over 2 lbs but if it does it is not a reflection of me as a person or a success/failure at this. I will do a correction day & move on. Simple...

Still on track with my plan for P3. The first week is essentially done by tomorrow & then I will add in exercise. Planning on easing into my routine starting Sat. & then Sunday. See how I feel & what the scale does. Monday I have a trip to the dentist for a filing & deep cleaning so definitely no exercise that day for me.

Happy Friday everyone

[buttah]

Originally Posted by julieboolie

THanks. Yes, I am seeing that. Today I STS after a dd yesterday. I think I was more like 600cals yesterday, instead of 500. But I was hungry!! I'll take a scale break and check it weekly on Monday's. Did you do the full rotation for the first 2 weeks then add a MD? I'm not sure I'll want to do DDs every weekend? I'm fine for now, trying to do the "induction" period strictly. Did you do it LC? I'm trying for that, but hoping I won't have to stay stict LC since I'm doing the strict calories. Working on it . I kept my cream in my coffee, even though it limits my eating the rest of the day. I stay full from that until lunch, then had some sauteed cabbage (80cals!) and was full until dinner. Hope it works for me!

You know what's crazy? I don't remember anything about "induction" on JUDDD! (What's wrong with me?) I will have to look. I remember that Dr. J advises doing shakes to make sure you're at the calorie level, but I didn't do that. I have a very detailed JUDDD log I will send you via PM if you'd like.

I only did MD's when I needed to "switch" my schedule due to a dinner out or something. I also had a couple "accidental" MD's, but they didn't slow me down much. I know many vary the schedule, like taking weekends off or doing one of the veteran's version where the "day" is from lunch to lunch, but I didn't mess with that.

I was definitely LC on my DD's, and in the beginning on my UD's as well. But I gradually went into my "STS on vacations" way of eating on UD's - which meant enjoying all my proteins and low glycemic veggies with all manner of yummy sauces but avoiding bread, pasta, potatoes like the plague but then treating myself to small deserts or sharing a desert (it was heaven). And I had a few UD's where I truly just ate whatever, but I didn't go over the max calories (and that's all it is - a MAX, not a goal) and didn't ever feel stuffed (theme here from buttah or what?) Toward the end of my JUDDD, my UD's became more and more "whatever you want but don't get stuffed - stay 'comfortable'" and it worked just as well, I think. Again, I'll have to check the log. If you look in the JUDDD forum, people post those daily logs in the current month's thread, and it's helpful to see what the scale does on JUDDD.

I never, ever, ever went without my half and half in my coffee. Never! And other than P2, I never will! And I think those are good filling calories, anyway. Cream is a bit more, obviously. Maybe switch to half and half to spare yourself a few calories for the rest of the day?

And again, I rarely got down to 500 calories, and I still lost! Although it took just over a week to "get going." And then... whoosh.

[LaraSuzz]

ug. I ate so much yesterday I gained three pounds lol... im sure a combo of salt and being empty it was to be expected. still in the window and Im not coming out, no sir. It was all legal so but whatevs. I will come back down today I hope.

[C'Marie]

@Lara, how did you end up with a 5 pound cush? Did you go down a *whoosh* after ending?

[pandora174]

I hate tom specially on P3.It just hit me like a brick..the cramps, bloating & hunger ! Even after a very satisfying dinner (ground sirloin & a salad) I was hungry & I mean starving 2 hours later so I had a small serving. Then 30 min ago I had some Just the Cheese snacks & a cherry coke zero...

Of course I also get the accompanying horrible stomach ache & related issues tom brings. Now I just need the 2 to 3 lbs gain Do you guys do a correction day when you get tom ? I hate doing them but do them if needed but for a legitimate reason. I could do a greek yogurt day or a high protein day, I guess...I rather just keep eating the way I have and hope when tom leaves so do the extra lbs.

[julieboolie]

Originally Posted by buttah

You know what's crazy? I don't remember anything about "induction" on JUDDD! (What's wrong with me?) I will have to look. I remember that Dr. J advises doing shakes to make sure you're at the calorie level, but I didn't do that. I have a very detailed JUDDD log I will send you via PM if you'd like.

I only did MD's when I needed to "switch" my schedule due to a dinner out or something. I also had a couple "accidental" MD's, but they didn't slow me down much. I know many vary the schedule, like taking weekends off or doing one of the veteran's version where the "day" is from lunch to lunch, but I didn't mess with that.

I was definitely LC on my DD's, and in the beginning on my UD's as well. But I gradually went into my "STS on vacations" way of eating on UD's - which meant enjoying all my proteins and low glycemic veggies with all manner of yummy sauces but avoiding bread, pasta, potatoes like the plague but then treating myself to small deserts or sharing a desert (it was heaven). And I had a few UD's where I truly just ate whatever, but I didn't go over the max calories (and that's all it is - a MAX, not a goal) and didn't ever feel stuffed (theme here from buttah or what?) Toward the end of my JUDDD, my UD's became more and more "whatever you want but don't get stuffed - stay 'comfortable'" and it worked just as well, I think. Again, I'll have to check the log. If you look in the JUDDD forum, people post those daily logs in the current month's thread, and it's helpful to see what the scale does on JUDDD.

I never, ever, ever went without my half and half in my coffee. Never! And other than P2, I never will! And I think those are good filling calories, anyway. Cream is a bit more, obviously. Maybe switch to half and half to spare yourself a few calories for the rest of the day?

And again, I rarely got down to 500 calories, and I still lost! Although it took just over a week to "get going." And then... whoosh.

Thanks! Yes, if you're willing. I'd love you to PM me your log. I haven't actually read the JUDDD book , but I recall a 2 week induction period similar to Atkins, where you're really strict w/ the DDs and cals. I'm trying for that. I can see that there will be days when 500cals is NOT gonna' cut it. So far, so good though . I'm not going to start off cheating That part I bolded encourages me the most. I am looking for quick results since my gain is relatively recent. I'll be patient and give it the full 2 weeks. I'd like this to work. I'd much prefer to lose this 10lbs w. JUDDD, even if it takes 2 months or so, than go back for another round of hcg. We'll see. I feel good so far, so I'll take that as an encouraging sign! I do use hnh on my DDs and save my heavy cream for my UDs. Like you, it's a necessary part of evey day .

Originally Posted by LaraSuzz

ug. I ate so much yesterday I gained three pounds lol... im sure a combo of salt and being empty it was to be expected. still in the window and Im not coming out, no sir. It was all legal so but whatevs. I will come back down today I hope.

It'll be back down tomorrow! for room in the window!!

Pandora-

Marie!! Are you still planning to head to CA soon? When was that again?

I'm hanging in there w. my JUDDD. I certanly enjoy my UDs more, but honestly, it's not as hard as I thought it would be . I'm doing just fine ! Hope to see the scale reward me. Gonna' give it 2 full weeks and see where I get. Enjoying it so far. Happy weekend all! I'm off to dd's vball tournament. 7 hours of frustrating spectating coming my way!! . Dd plays well, but this team is awful!!

[pandora174]

Afternoon ! Woke up down -1.0 to 128 Anyway the exercise plans are on hold until tom leaves & I am beginning to think I will leave the exercise routine until the first week of P4. I don't want to mess with my stabilization. I may do the exercise bike when tom leaves just so when I do start exercising it's not too painful & I can walk the next day lol

Making Cornish hens for dinner (they smell heavenly). May add back nuts on Monday & see what happens.

Julie & Buttah I've been thinking of JUDDD when I get to P4. I've been reading some of the threads & it sounds interesting & better than another round when I just want to lose less than 10lbs.

My concern is if I follow the plan I know the losses won't be as dramatic as hcg. I was thinking of 2 weeks and see what happens or is that too short a time ? Also when I get to goal are there problems stabilizing at the new weight ? Do you have to keep JUDDDing for maintenance or can you go back to P4/P3 eating ? Sorry for all the questions. I keep thinking "hcg stlye" though I like the idea of JUDDD and it seems like a reasonable way to eat & lose weight. While I love hcg I don't anticipate being in the right frame of mind anytime soon for loading and then the 500 calories that follow. But I would like to get to my goal weight of 125 and then start toning up.

[fiveninepointfive]

I had to bite the bullet and do a steak day -- an actual steak day. I couldn't risk an alternative correction because I am not sure what my food sensitivities are exactly. I haven't tasted red meat in over 20 years! I chose ribeye after reading an old post from Dawn. Thank you.
It worked to get me back to my window. I will be more careful introducing foods in P3. I have never had a taste for steak. It did remind me of my dear old dad...sharing bites of his late dinner when I was a kid.

[dawnyama]

Sorry, 5'9.5 I am glad my old post helped though! When I cook steak here for a steak day, I have to hide it from my family. They love steak and when that is all I get to eat on a steak day....it is mine LOL. I eat what I want off it, and then share the rest. But, I am glad it did the trick for you!!! Yay for steak days!!!

[buttah]

Julie, I'm going to hunt for my log now.

I don't know you well, but knowing what I know, I really think JUDDD can work for you. The "dieting only every other day" thing is really true. I found I was able to be pretty free on UD's if I was true to DD's.

I recommend you get Dr. J's book. It's so fascinating. Okay, off to find my log. I hope it's as good as I remember.

[C'Marie]

@Julie, about California - it would be after tax season, like the weekend in April involving a 20th or something like that. I have it scheduled but not looking at the calendar. That IS, unless I decide to go for the study for my hip which would involve traveling to the clinic there. I haven't decided.

I am meeting a young client who is going to help me by making a stand to bring my glidecycle indoors and have it upstairs at my office so I can use it during tax season. I'm excited about NOT sitting on my big bottom and getting stiffer with the hip all season long. He's a welder. I'll be hunting for a treadmill on CL soon!

[Jeanyyy]

Having BBQ ground beef in lettuce leaves for dinner. Have I mentioned how much I love this barbecue sauce? I use it even when not in P2.

P2 BBQ Sauce

Ingredients:

1 cup Tomato sauce (no salt or sugar added) (or puree fresh tomatoes)
4 tbsp Apple Cider Vinegar
1 tbsp Bragg's liquid amino
1 tsp Dijon Mustard (Golden's spicy brown has no sugar)
1 tsp Liquid Smoke*
1 tsp Chili powder
1/2 tsp Garlic powder
2 pkgs (2g) stevia
1/8 tsp Salt

Directions

Simmer all ingredients at a medium low heat for 15-30 minutes.

Tastes great with chicken and steak.

I saute up some ground beef with a bit of onion and garlic, then when it's cooked, I throw in a couple of spoonsful of the above BBQ sauce and get about 4 lettuce leaves ready. Yummmm...

[pandora174]

@Julie, C'Marie or Buttah I've been thinking of JUDDD when I get to P4. I've been reading some of the threads & it sounds interesting & better than another round when I just want to lose less than 10lbs.

My concern is if I follow the plan I know the losses won't be as dramatic as hcg. I was thinking of 2 weeks and see what happens or is that too short a time to expect anything like 5 to 10 lbs ? Also when I get to goal are there problems stabilizing at the new weight ? Do you have to keep JUDDDing for maintenance or can you go back to P4/P3 eating ? Sorry for all the questions. I keep thinking "hcg stlye" though I really like the idea of JUDDD and it seems like a reasonable way to eat & lose weight. While I love hcg I don't anticipate being in the right frame of mind anytime soon for loading and then the 500 calories that follow. I love my P3/P4 eating too much & the thought of I can have it tomorrow just stick to 500 calories today & still lose sounds pretty darn good to me. Specially when I can keep my fats in. I would really like to get to my goal weight of 125 and then start toning up.

Where did you guys start researching before you started Juddding. I admit I am a little nervous that it won't work or something.

[buttah]

Originally Posted by pandora174

. I was thinking of 2 weeks and see what happens or is that too short a time to expect anything like 5 to 10 lbs ?

Yes! That is too short a time! Spend some time on the JUDDD forum monthly logs (people post their daily weights for the whole months, with DD/UD and calories) and you will see typical losses. It is not a high speed way to lose. The wonderful thing about JUDDD is that you spend half your life NOT on a diet. If you look at the "visual" in my signature, my time on JUDDD is from somewhere in July to the end of August. Faster than LC, but not nearly as fast as HCG.

Also when I get to goal are there problems stabilizing at the new weight ? Do you have to keep JUDDDing for maintenance or can you go back to P4/P3 eating ?

I believe there are many "methods" to stabilize, and whether or not they "work" depends on whether or not we've changed our fundamental behavior toward food and our bodies. JUDDD maintenance numbers (higher calories) are one way to stabilize and eating low carb (for me) is another way. I personally haven't used JUDDD for maintenance, but I've sort of planned on doing it at some point. I think you have to find what works for you. I happen to believe maintenance is harder and more important than "losing," and that most people never seem to get that. I also believe plain ole simple overeating is the reason most people gain back, regardless of what they're overeating.

There are many, many happy "maintainers" on the JUDDD forum - from my unscientific observation, more than any other WOE.

Sorry for all the questions. I keep thinking "hcg stlye" though I really like the idea of JUDDD and it seems like a reasonable way to eat & lose weight. While I love hcg I don't anticipate being in the right frame of mind anytime soon for loading and then the 500 calories that follow. I love my P3/P4 eating too much & the thought of I can have it tomorrow just stick to 500 calories today & still lose sounds pretty darn good to me. Specially when I can keep my fats in. I would really like to get to my goal weight of 125 and then start toning up.

Where did you guys start researching before you started Juddding. I admit I am a little nervous that it won't work or something.

I read the book!! It's a great read. I couldn't put it down - the science is amazing. And watch the BBC documentary on intermittent fasting called "Eat Fast Live Longer." It's four parts, and wonderful. Not JUDDD per se, but IF benefits. There's more on the JUDDD forum, but I'm a firm believer in going right to the source.

[Felina]

I just saw the video, "Eat, Fast and Live Longer" and it was excellent. butta, thank you so much for recommending it!

[julieboolie]

Originally Posted by buttah

Julie, I'm going to hunt for my log now.

I don't know you well, but knowing what I know, I really think JUDDD can work for you. The "dieting only every other day" thing is really true. I found I was able to be pretty free on UD's if I was true to DD's.

I recommend you get Dr. J's book. It's so fascinating. Okay, off to find my log. I hope it's as good as I remember.

Thanks!! I really appreciate it. I hope it works, because I feel good and am enjoying it!!

Originally Posted by C'Marie

@Julie, about California - it would be after tax season, like the weekend in April involving a 20th or something like that. I have it scheduled but not looking at the calendar. That IS, unless I decide to go for the study for my hip which would involve traveling to the clinic there. I haven't decided.

I am meeting a young client who is going to help me by making a stand to bring my glidecycle indoors and have it upstairs at my office so I can use it during tax season. I'm excited about NOT sitting on my big bottom and getting stiffer with the hip all season long. He's a welder. I'll be hunting for a treadmill on CL soon!

Sounds good! I was just wondering if it were sooner, since I just booked a trip for Mar 2-9. Hope the welder can help you get that set up!! Hang in there through tax season!

Originally Posted by Jeanyyy

Having BBQ ground beef in lettuce leaves for dinner. Have I mentioned how much I love this barbecue sauce? I use it even when not in P2.

P2 BBQ Sauce

Ingredients:

1 cup Tomato sauce (no salt or sugar added) (or puree fresh tomatoes)
4 tbsp Apple Cider Vinegar
1 tbsp Bragg's liquid amino
1 tsp Dijon Mustard (Golden's spicy brown has no sugar)
1 tsp Liquid Smoke*
1 tsp Chili powder
1/2 tsp Garlic powder
2 pkgs (2g) stevia
1/8 tsp Salt

Directions

Simmer all ingredients at a medium low heat for 15-30 minutes.

Tastes great with chicken and steak.

I saute up some ground beef with a bit of onion and garlic, then when it's cooked, I throw in a couple of spoonsful of the above BBQ sauce and get about 4 lettuce leaves ready. Yummmm...

Is that really that good? I've made a similar recipe before and didn't like it. I would LOVE to find a good LC BBQ sauce! Thanks for the recipe!!

Originally Posted by pandora174

@Julie, C'Marie or Buttah I've been thinking of JUDDD when I get to P4. I've been reading some of the threads & it sounds interesting & better than another round when I just want to lose less than 10lbs.

My concern is if I follow the plan I know the losses won't be as dramatic as hcg. I was thinking of 2 weeks and see what happens or is that too short a time to expect anything like 5 to 10 lbs ? Also when I get to goal are there problems stabilizing at the new weight ? Do you have to keep JUDDDing for maintenance or can you go back to P4/P3 eating ? Sorry for all the questions. I keep thinking "hcg stlye" though I really like the idea of JUDDD and it seems like a reasonable way to eat & lose weight. While I love hcg I don't anticipate being in the right frame of mind anytime soon for loading and then the 500 calories that follow. I love my P3/P4 eating too much & the thought of I can have it tomorrow just stick to 500 calories today & still lose sounds pretty darn good to me. Specially when I can keep my fats in. I would really like to get to my goal weight of 125 and then start toning up.

Where did you guys start researching before you started Juddding. I admit I am a little nervous that it won't work or something.

I'm not an expert, just figuring it out for myself right now. It's too soon to say if it's succesful for me or not. Many, many folks have been successful with it. I hope this will work for me. WW doesn't work for me, LC doesn't either (any more). Hcg was the only way I've been able to get below 175lbs. I really hope JUDDD will work for me! I'm giving it 2 weeks to start, but know it'll take longer than that to drop to my goal. I know if I just did strict LC I'd get down to about 152 w/o much trouble, so that'll be my test. If I can get lower than 152 I'll call that a success (for me) .

DD done. Looking forward to tomorrow . I was a bit hungry today. It was hard to resist the food at the vball tournament today. I did have a portion of froyo tonight, so I'm coming in around 600 cals for the day. I think that'll be fine.

[Jeanyyy]

Originally Posted by julieboolie

Is that really that good? I've made a similar recipe before and didn't like it. I would LOVE to find a good LC BBQ sauce! Thanks for the recipe!!

I can't speak for everyone, naturally, but I really like this one. I think the liquid smoke makes it, so I recommend not leaving it out.

[dooy]

Finally broke through to 159.6!!! SOOOO happy to see that "5" on the scale! I also realized I was counting my VLCDs wrong. I counted the two loading days in there so I am really at day 22! I am down from 13.4 lbs my pre-load weight. I only gained 2.8lbs in loading...

I'm a happy camper this morning!

Happy Sunday, everyone!

[dooy]

I know I am still in P2 but wanted to share this with y'all since I lurk here... Finally broke through to 159.6!!! SOOOO happy to see that "5" on the scale! I also realized I was counting my VLCDs wrong. I counted the two loading days in there so I am really at day 22! I am down from 13.4 lbs my pre-load weight. I only gained 2.8lbs in loading...

I'm a happy camper this morning!

Happy Sunday, everyone!

[fiveninepointfive]

Holding steady. Introduced ghee for bullet proof coffee with no negative reaction. Today or tomorrow, I'll add eggs. I'll see how I feel by dinner.

Yay, Dooy! Congrats! It is great to hear from you! Keep up the good work!

[pandora174]

@buttah thanks for answering all my questions. I'll be downloading his book next week & start reading up on it.

Well today is R3D8 & down -1.6 to -1.8 under ldw I have never ever been this low on a round and during tom. Now yesterday I did cut out my apple and 2nd veggie which I added extra protein trying to sort of counter any bloat I would get from tom. I did not anticipate a loss. I'm also just eating what I crave and go with that. Today I did want strawberries and I had some with amazing buttery egg omelet with Colby cheese & 5 slices of reduced sodium bacon. I have country style ribs in the crock pot & dinner is salmon with shrimp in butter. I'll make a tomato salad with blue cheese dressing. I'm having about 1700 to 1800 calories a day so right now I am a very happy & well fed skinny girl

Now here is where I go hmmm...Here I am looking up JUDDD, fat fast in P4 or even contemplating another round to get established and into 120-125 range. But I just dropped essentially 2.6 lbs in 2 days why can't I try and maintain it ? I know I am in P3 but I am still within my window. Now the question is "HOW" do I maintain this new 126.4 which is an all time low for me. I did eat low carb, kept my fat/protein high. If I could just stay around 126 I would essentially be at goal (I wouldn't quibble over 1 lb) Any suggestions ?

[buttah]

Wait, you're on another round of P2 already, Pandora? How is that possible? Isn't it too soon?

ETA: you must have meant R2P3 day 8?

My vote is for spending some time maintaining and locking in your previous losses before worrying about losing more. I don't know. That's what's worked for me in the past year. My maintenance periods show me that I can maintain for life. See my visual chart!