P2 Simeons Protocol Month of January

[Clothilde]

Originally Posted by livnonahill

Thank you all for the responses. I'm doing hcg rx nasal spray (1 spray per nostril daily). I'm following the P&I diet, and I've even cut out my facial moisturizer

Yesterday, the day I was so hungry, my meals were
Breakfast - 1 cup black coffee & 6 sliced strawberries 7:45 AM

Lunch - 3 oz Spring Mix with 3.5 oz crab claw cakes, dressing-apple cider vinegar & lemon juice mixed with garlic & onion powder 12:30 PM

Dinner - 3.5 oz asparagus & 3.5 oz shrimp sautéed in lemon juice, braggs amino, and rosemary. 7:00 PM

Snack - 1 apple cut in eighths. I eat 2 slices off and on through the day until it's gone.

I've been drinking over 4 liters of water a day with propel zero and I drink herbal teas off and on through the day using only stevia to sweeten.

That's a typical day for me.

Yesterday, I showed a loss of 0.5 #...today, NO loss UGH!!!

Liv,

I actually suspect you weren't eating ENOUGH that day. You only had one apple instead of two pieces of fruit, and you didn't have any breadsticks/melbas (I find I do better if I eat everything on the protocol instead of leaving something out.)

Also, your veggie calories could have been higher. I just posted about the amounts for 50 calories worth of veggies. You ate 3 oz of spring mix (salad, right?). That's just under 100g, or about 20 calories. For 50 calories of romaine (lettuce is all pretty much the same) you can have 375 grams, between 3 and 4 times as much. You can "bulk up" on the lettuce without going over your calorie limits. It really helps on "hungry days" to be able to do that.

Also, let me bring up sodium. I had a round previously where I was following the doctor's advice and not salting my food at all, and I not only stopped losing, I started GAINING! It turns out my system was holding on to fluid because my sodium got way too low. So please keep your sodium consistent every day, OK? That will enable your body to flush out any excess fluid on a daily basis.

What are the ingredients in propel zero?

Hope this helps!

[LaraSuzz]

Hi guys! Still toying with the idea of not getting on the scale until the end of the month. I think that this will make the days go faster for me. Plus I will be more motivated to keep going when I sts... and I wont start to bargain on stopping. I need to keep going and as long as I know its working then Im okay. The only scary part is, what if I go all month and then no loss? Impossible. right?

I eat the same thing every day at the same time of day so this should help. I know its boring but I like the way it tastes and I dont think that I will get sick of it.

I have an interview for a new position today, wish me luck!

[livnonahill]

Originally Posted by Clothilde

Liv,

I actually suspect you weren't eating ENOUGH that day. You only had one apple instead of two pieces of fruit, and you didn't have any breadsticks/melbas (I find I do better if I eat everything on the protocol instead of leaving something out.)

Also, your veggie calories could have been higher. I just posted about the amounts for 50 calories worth of veggies. You ate 3 oz of spring mix (salad, right?). That's just under 100g, or about 20 calories. For 50 calories of romaine (lettuce is all pretty much the same) you can have 375 grams, between 3 and 4 times as much. You can "bulk up" on the lettuce without going over your calorie limits. It really helps on "hungry days" to be able to do that.

Also, let me bring up sodium. I had a round previously where I was following the doctor's advice and not salting my food at all, and I not only stopped losing, I started GAINING! It turns out my system was holding on to fluid because my sodium got way too low. So please keep your sodium consistent every day, OK? That will enable your body to flush out any excess fluid on a daily basis.

What are the ingredients in propel zero?

Hope this helps!

Thank you for replying!

Propel Zero: Propel contains water, flavors, citric acid, sodium citrate, potassium citrate, sucralose (marketed as Splenda), vitamin C (ascorbic acid), vitamin E acetate, niacinamide (vitamin B3), calcium disodium EDTA, calcium pantothenate (vitamin B5), pyridoxine hydrochloride (vitamin B6), acesulfame potassium, and vitamin B12.

It has 0g of anything except sodium at 30mg

I've been using sea salt but I've definitely decreased the amount I consumed pre-diet. I did have 1 Melba toast yesterday. It was mixed in the crab cake mixture. I typically have only 1 Melba toast a day so I'll increase that.

Also, I was under the impression I could only have 3.5 oz of veggies per meal, which was REALLY confusing to me because like you mentioned, the spring mix only has like 20 calories. Whereas the asparagus has 50 calories per 3.5 oz.
so....it's ok for me to increase my vegetable intake per meal in order to get the calories? I have been running around 450-460 calories a day if I calculate coffee @ 5 calories and tea @ 2 calories.

[livnonahill]

PS...do I still need to eat 2 apples if I'm doing strawberries for breakfast?

[Kateenie]

Originally Posted by livnonahill

PS...do I still need to eat 2 apples if I'm doing strawberries for breakfast?

No, 2 fruits max per day. I assume she just didn't see the strawberries you listed.

[livnonahill]

Thanks!!

[Clothilde]

Originally Posted by livnonahill

Thank you for replying!

Propel Zero: Propel contains water, flavors, citric acid, sodium citrate, potassium citrate, sucralose (marketed as Splenda), vitamin C (ascorbic acid), vitamin E acetate, niacinamide (vitamin B3), calcium disodium EDTA, calcium pantothenate (vitamin B5), pyridoxine hydrochloride (vitamin B6), acesulfame potassium, and vitamin B12.

It has 0g of anything except sodium at 30mg

I've been using sea salt but I've definitely decreased the amount I consumed pre-diet. I did have 1 Melba toast yesterday. It was mixed in the crab cake mixture. I typically have only 1 Melba toast a day so I'll increase that.

Also, I was under the impression I could only have 3.5 oz of veggies per meal, which was REALLY confusing to me because like you mentioned, the spring mix only has like 20 calories. Whereas the asparagus has 50 calories per 3.5 oz.
so....it's ok for me to increase my vegetable intake per meal in order to get the calories? I have been running around 450-460 calories a day if I calculate coffee @ 5 calories and tea @ 2 calories.

The Propel Zero has both splenda and Ace-K as sweeteners. Some people are sensitive to them. If you're drinking a lot of that, try dropping it for a day or two and see what happens, just in case there's something in it your body doesn't like.

Yes, I think you can increase your veggies a bit, especially on hungry days. Just weigh everything out (I weigh things in grams now - it seems to be more accurate than ounces) and calculate the calories ahead of time, and you should be OK.

A lot of doctor's offices and clinics have changed the original protocol to make it say what THEY want it to say. The original P&I (you can tell it's the original if it only allows saccharine as sweetener and doesn't mention stevia as a sweetener - if you've never read the original P&I, you should - even after 10 or so rounds I go back and read it often) does not give any amounts for veggies. It just lists the allowed veggies and says you can have one type at each meal. Interestingly, it also doesn't state the size/amount/calories of each fruit other than "half a grapefruit" and later talks about not substituting two small apples for one large apple. So it leaves the amount of veggies (and, in a way, fruits) up for interpretation, lol. Dr. S is clear, though, about the 500 calorie daily limit.

So I just calculated out the amount of each veggie for 50 calories so I would have an easy reference to just how much I could eat of each one. The amount of calories in lettuce is so small that some people count lettuce as a "free" (i.e., no calorie) food.

Here's something I've done on "hungry" days. I've had a salad with lunch and then another small salad later in the afternoon (totaling 350 or 375 grams by weight of salad for the day, or about 50 calories total) to keep the edge off. If you've never weighed out 350g of lettuce, you might be surprised at just how MUCH that actually is!

Re the sea salt, I use sea salt as well. Unless you are elderly or have super-high bp, you should be getting a minimum of 1500 mg of sodium a day, and the average for healthy people should be about 2000 mg. Don't go from 1000 mg to 2000 mg in one day, though, or you'll find yourself stalling or gaining for a few days until your body adjusts to the new level. The most important thing with sodium is to make sure you get the minimum every day, don't go over the maximum if you can, and just keep it consistent every day. I shoot for 2000 mg per day. Otherwise I find that my sodium just gets way too low. Your average mg/day may be different from mine. The key is to keep it the same amount every day.

Also, one other thing. I average between 500 and 600 calories per day and make sure I get 50 - 52g of protein every day (this isn't by weight, it's as in "1g of protein has 4 calories, 1g of carbs has 4 calories, 1g of fat has 9 calories" - For me, 500 calories and under 50g of protein just isn't enough and I stay hungry. But just those few extra calories makes a big difference in my hunger level, and it doesn't affect my losses. I'm on the rx as well. I don't know about folks on the homeopathic.

Wow, I've been writing novels, haven't I? LOL. Sorry this is so long, but I hope it helps!

[mommy2]

sooo excited! VLCD2 and I am down 3.6lbs!!
I did this diet years ago and lost 32lbs in 40 days.....but I forgot just how motivating it is to watch the numbers on the scale go down so quick!

[Clothilde]

Originally Posted by Kateenie

No, 2 fruits max per day. I assume she just didn't see the strawberries you listed.

Oops! You're right! I didn't see the strawberries. I really shouldn't post before I've had coffee! Sorry about that confusion....

[Shrinking]

vlcd 8. 189.9
Well it wasn't a whoosh, but I'm down 1.5! I know it's barely there but it's a new decade, right?

[Clothilde]

I just noticed I never posted today's results. I'm down 2 lbs of the holiday gain overnight, but still up 2 lbs over where I stopped last week for the holidays. That should (hopefully) be gone in a day or two.

[fiveninepointfive]

Originally Posted by Clothilde

OK, I'll try to help. I've got at least 10 rounds of experience, so let's take a look at what's going on.

How much water are you getting?


Are you tracking your calories?


A little l-glutamine mixed in water can help cravings TREMENDOUSLY. Watch your dose, though. You don't want to go much over about 4000 mg total per day.

Chromium can also help with cravings/hunger.


I find that the ACV drink helps a lot with hunger, instead of just plain water.


Are you doing homeopathic drops or rx medicine? Your dose may be off, which can cause hunger. What dose are you taking?


OK, this is a start.....

This is very helpful. Thank you!

I stayed the same today. Maybe it was my lack of sleep. I just couldn't drift away.

[livnonahill]

Originally Posted by Clothilde

The Propel Zero has both splenda and Ace-K as sweeteners. Some people are sensitive to them. If you're drinking a lot of that, try dropping it for a day or two and see what happens, just in case there's something in it your body

Re the sea salt, I use sea salt as well. Unless you are elderly or have super-high bp, you should be getting a minimum of 1500 mg of sodium a day, and the average for healthy people should be about 2000 mg. Don't go from 1000 mg to 2000 mg in one day, though, or you'll find yourself stalling or gaining for a few days until your body adjusts to the new level. The most important thing with sodium is to make sure you get the minimum every day, don't go over the maximum if you can, and just keep it consistent every day. I shoot for 2000 mg per day. Otherwise I find that my sodium just gets way too low. Your average mg/day may be different from mine. The key is to keep it the same amount every day.

Also, one other thing. I average between 500 and 600 calories per day and make sure I get 50 - 52g of protein every day (this isn't by weight, it's as in "1g of protein has 4 calories, 1g of carbs has 4 calories, 1g of fat has 9 calories" - For me, 500 calories and under 50g of protein just isn't enough and I stay hungry. But just those few extra calories makes a big difference in my hunger level, and it doesn't affect my losses. I'm on the rx as well. I don't know about folks on the homeopathic.

Thank you soooooooooo much! This has been very helpful. I have read the original P&I and I also found it helpful.

I haven't been "counting" my sodium, so I honestly don't know how much I'm consuming...just that I've cut back and substituted with sea salt.

I'll cut out the propel zero and see if that helps. Something has to! Hunger pangs along with showing no weight loss can be very discouraging

Thanks again!
Carole

[Clothilde]

Originally Posted by Shrinking

vlcd 8. 189.9
Well it wasn't a whoosh, but I'm down 1.5! I know it's barely there but it's a new decade, right?

Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!! !!!

Originally Posted by fiveninepointfive

This is very helpful. Thank you!

I stayed the same today. Maybe it was my lack of sleep. I just couldn't drift away.

Originally Posted by livnonahill

Thank you soooooooooo much! This has been very helpful. I have read the original P&I and I also found it helpful.

I haven't been "counting" my sodium, so I honestly don't know how much I'm consuming...just that I've cut back and substituted with sea salt.

I'll cut out the propel zero and see if that helps. Something has to! Hunger pangs along with showing no weight loss can be very discouraging

Thanks again!
Carole

Please don't be discouraged, y'all. While we're on P2, we kind of get used to daily losses. And then when we have a day or two where we don't drop on the scale, we get instantly discouraged and think something's wrong. Please let me reassure you that nothing's wrong. You are NOT gaining fat! You are NOT not losing fat! You MAY be retaining water, which is the body's main way of taking care of toxins, flushing things out, keeping fat cells filled until the body is sure they're not needed, pushing things along in your intestines, etc. P&I says to expect some days without losses. On the days they don't show progress on the scale, some people take a few measurements instead. Or they try on some old clothes to see how they fit. They way your clothes fit (tight...loose....PERFECT!) is just as valid a "scale" as the one on the floor in the bathroom. It's just measuring something different, that's all.

Carole, you may want to try tracking your sodium for a couple of days until you know for sure how much you're getting on a daily basis.

[Clothilde]

Originally Posted by mommy2

sooo excited! VLCD2 and I am down 3.6lbs!!
I did this diet years ago and lost 32lbs in 40 days.....but I forgot just how motivating it is to watch the numbers on the scale go down so quick!

AWESOME!!!!

[buttah]

Just a fly by, but hopefully I'll be back later to chat..

pre-load weight - 155ish (didn't have my scale)
12/17 - VLCD1 155.9 (gained .9 from load)
12/18 - VLCD2 154 (lost 1.9 total, -1 lb from pre-load)
12/19 - VLCD3 152.5 -1.5 (down 2.5 from pre-load)
12/20 - VLCD4 151.9 -.6 (down 3.1 lb from pre-load)
12/21 - VLCD5 152.5 +.5
12/22 - VLCD6 151.1 -1.4 (better!)
12/23 - VLCD7 150.6 -.5 (down 5.3 from pre-load)
12/24 - VLCD8 150.9 +.3
12/25 - VLCD9 150.7 -.2
12/26 - VLCD10 149.9 -.8
12/27 - VLCD11 149.1 -.8 (down about 5.9 from pre-load)
12/28 - VLCD12 148.5 -.6 (-6.5 from pre-load, but I think pre-load was more like 155.5!)
12/29 - VLCD13 147.5 -1.0 (corrected from earlier weigh in)
12/30 - VLCD14 148 +.5
12/31 - VLCD15 146.6 -1.4
1/1 - VLCD16 STS
1/2 - VLCD17 STS
1/3 - VLCD18 146.1 -.4

Looks like I'm right back to the snails pace that characterized the last three weeks of my first round (total 6 weeks). Sigh. It's got three days to pick up or I'll stop at 21 days. Not doing an extra week of nothin'.

[buttah]

Virginia (I finally remembered your real name) - I look at veggies exactly the same way you do. I just stick to the protocol ones. I'm going to take a look at my protein, though, and see how many grams I've been having. Sometimes, if it's a very low fat/low cal protein, I will have a bit more, and visa versa. I know that some clinics do it by calories, allowing anywhere from 3.5 to even 6 oz depending what the protein is. It makes sense - a 3.5 oz portion really means nothing in terms of nutrients when you don't figure what those nutrients/macros ARE.

[dawnyama]

Originally Posted by livnonahill

Thank you soooooooooo much! This has been very helpful. I have read the original P&I and I also found it helpful.

I haven't been "counting" my sodium, so I honestly don't know how much I'm consuming...just that I've cut back and substituted with sea salt.

I'll cut out the propel zero and see if that helps. Something has to! Hunger pangs along with showing no weight loss can be very discouraging

Thanks again!
Carole

Please, please, please do NOT forget what I posted!!!! Having fruit all day long will not do you any good!! It can cause hunger. If you change too much at once then you won't know what you did to stop your hunger all day. I suggest you cut out the fruit in between meals today. Then see how you do. Then you can go from there. Please only implement one change at a time. I skip the veggies all the time---just do not like them. So if you are having some, you are doing better than me

[livnonahill]

Originally Posted by dawnyama

Please, please, please do NOT forget what I posted!!!! Having fruit all day long will not do you any good!! It can cause hunger. If you change too much at once then you won't know what you did to stop your hunger all day. I suggest you cut out the fruit in between meals today. Then see how you do. Then you can go from there. Please only implement one change at a time. I skip the veggies all the time---just do not like them. So if you are having some, you are doing better than me

Thanks, Dawn! The fruit IS going to be the only change today. I'm going to look up sodium content on the foods that I'm eating and start tracking that too, but not making a change there....yet. I'll continue to drink tons of water and keep my fingers crossed for even a half pound loss tomorrow.

I'm so glad I found this site! Especially with my clinic closing through the holidays and not reopening until mid Jan.

Carole

[dawnyama]

Originally Posted by livnonahill

Thanks, Dawn! The fruit IS going to be the only change today. I'm going to look up sodium content on the foods that I'm eating and start tracking that too, but not making a change there....yet. I'll continue to drink tons of water and keep my fingers crossed for even a half pound loss tomorrow.

I'm so glad I found this site! Especially with my clinic closing through the holidays and not reopening until mid Jan.

Carole

What??!! That does not sound right. Start you off on hcg, then close for almost a month just not right.

[livnonahill]

Originally Posted by dawnyama

What??!! That does not sound right. Start you off on hcg, then close for almost a month just not right.

Tell me about it!! Which means no one to discuss things with but y'all. And believe me, I'm VERY grateful for that!

[misslatte]

VLCD2 today - I haven't weighed in since pre-load but I plan on it tomorrow.

I hope everyone has a wonderful day!

[manders]

I'm sorry I abandoned you all!

I ended up getting pneumonia at the end of november and then turned up positive for mono just before Christmas. TYPICAL!!!!!!!!

Anyways, been battling this since like Nov 27. The mono is BRUTAL! I weigh almost the exact same as before I got sick because I wasted away to like 158 when I had pneumonia and then put about 10 back on.

I will truly be back into P2 once I can get my mono under control. I partied a bit too hard on NYE and it set me back.

I hope everyone here is doing well! I miss you guys. I hope everyone had a good Christmas!

[Clothilde]

Originally Posted by buttah

Virginia (I finally remembered your real name) - I look at veggies exactly the same way you do. I just stick to the protocol ones. I'm going to take a look at my protein, though, and see how many grams I've been having. Sometimes, if it's a very low fat/low cal protein, I will have a bit more, and visa versa. I know that some clinics do it by calories, allowing anywhere from 3.5 to even 6 oz depending what the protein is. It makes sense - a 3.5 oz portion really means nothing in terms of nutrients when you don't figure what those nutrients/macros ARE.

Dawn has always called me "Cloth," lol. She's so adorable! I say that some days I'm seersucker, some days I'm soft cotton, some I'm silk or satin. But watch out if that day I'm synthetic wool - all rough and scratchy!

I agree that it's so important to keep track of everything, especially if you have a stall or stay hungry. For most of us (me included!) weight loss and controlling my body, even just knowing what it's doing, has always been a big huge mystery, pretty much completely out of my control. My body has never really responded like "other" people....like "normal." So I totally know the panic that comes when stalls or gains or hunger happens. I can easily go right to that "oh no, I don't know what it's doing" helpless feeling. But the best thing with hCG is just be patient and wait. Dr. S talks about what's really going on when these things happen. And hCG actually gives me control over my body unlike anything I've ever experienced before in my life! Don't you feel that way too?

Sorry, didn't mean to get up on my soapbox there, lol. I agree with you about knowing the calories and making adjustments where necessary. After all, isn't that what naturally thin people do?

[Clothilde]

Originally Posted by manders

I'm sorry I abandoned you all!

I ended up getting pneumonia at the end of november and then turned up positive for mono just before Christmas. TYPICAL!!!!!!!!

Anyways, been battling this since like Nov 27. The mono is BRUTAL! I weigh almost the exact same as before I got sick because I wasted away to like 158 when I had pneumonia and then put about 10 back on.

I will truly be back into P2 once I can get my mono under control. I partied a bit too hard on NYE and it set me back.

I hope everyone here is doing well! I miss you guys. I hope everyone had a good Christmas!

Goodness gracious, bless your heart! That sounds terrible! I hope you're feeling much better very soon!!!!!!

[Shelle135]

Today is Day 3, being day 1 of VLCD and I am STARVED!!! Does it get better???

[buttah]

Okay, I like Cloth!

Anyway, somewhere around this place there's a day by day account of my first round. It was not easy or stellar. Way too hungry, and finally, when that settled down (long story), my losses were well below average, especially the last three out of 6 weeks. During those weeks I averaged about 1.8 - 1.9 a week. That was HALF of my round I lost that slowly. In 43 days (45? I forget) I lost just shy of 17 lbs (not including loading, but to me, counting that is BS. You gain more, you'll lose more, and you didn't have it on you in the first place.)

Still, it was better than anything else I've ever done, and clearly I'm doing it again.

But after three weeks of that (and btw, other than my first week that round, my other weeks weren't much greater - averaged 2.3 lbs), I can tell you that I'm not expecting this too change. From here on out it will likely be stall, stall, lose a fraction, stall, lose another fraction, gain a fraction, and so on. That's my body on HCG. Again, better than anything else, but not quite worth the sacrifice of going past 21 days. If that's where I'm headed, I will JUDDD off my last few pounds no question.

Meanwhile, I just had another round of great blood work, including all the thyroid tests I hadn't had before, just to be sure. All good. So there's that.

I'm coming to grips with the fact I won't be getting to my goal this round. I look at so many people who lost so much more than I have (even people my size), and dang, I wish I were like them. But I'm not. HCG is a miracle for me, but it sure ain't the one it is for others.

[pandora174]

Originally Posted by dawnyama

Don't sweat it. It will come off very quickly on VLCDs. Don't diet right before starting the VLCDs. Just ask buttah about that Just hop right in!! Your body has stabilized at your LDW--or right around there (I have forgotten where now ) but you have been really stable on P3, so your body will remember where it like to be and will quickly get back there. Again, no worries. Enjoy your vacation and DH's birthday. Then you can concentrate on the diet.

Thanks ! I had stabilized beautifully & then I went on vacation & went INSANE I mean I've drank, I've eaten everything I've ever craved & I am surrounded by amazing foods & such a happy time so I caved in but I must admit I enjoyed it.

Tomorrow I start my pellets and I have 2 days of vlcd Sun & Mon before I go back to work since I don't want to hear any comments like "ooh looks like you gained: "see those crazy diets don't work you eat normal & you gain" So I am hoping to lose maybe half of what I gained & wear baggy clothes until I get to my old ldw.

So far I am on my way to gaining 20 lbs !! I hit 16 lbs this morning

[dawnyama]

Originally Posted by pandora174

Thanks ! I had stabilized beautifully & then I went on vacation & went INSANE I mean I've drank, I've eaten everything I've ever craved & I am surrounded by amazing foods & such a happy time so I caved in but I must admit I enjoyed it.

Tomorrow I start my pellets and I have 2 days of vlcd Sun & Mon before I go back to work since I don't want to hear any comments like "ooh looks like you gained: "see those crazy diets don't work you eat normal & you gain" So I am hoping to lose maybe half of what I gained & wear baggy clothes until I get to my old ldw.

So far I am on my way to gaining 20 lbs !! I hit 16 lbs this morning

I was wondering about the clothes. Every time I go up in weight, I no longer fit into my jeans. It sucks, but is life. Thank goodness for my yoga pants they are what I lived in when I was at my highest and refused to buy size 14 pants. They fit whether I am a size 14 or a size 6.

[Crazy PreK Teacher]

Hi all

Glad to see everyone is doing well so far. Welcome to the newbies, and welcome back Manders...missed ya!!!!

Well...I am going back on the "juice" for 3 weeks...lol. I loaded yesterday, and have tried to load today somewhat...you know how that 2nd day goes

I have maintained beautifully...175.4 lbs. this morning, which is -.4 lb. below LDW of 175.8 lbs. I would like to lose about 7-8 more to get me to my low "leeway" 167 lbs. allowed for TOPS. Right now I teeter-totter between 173-175ish lbs., but it is just too close to my max "leeway" of 178 lbs. I'd rather be 167-170ish and have more of a cushion. I have found JUDDD to be purely magical & EASY for maintenance, but I do not technically lose a lot on it...I go down a few, then bounce up a few...it's a cycle, but honestly think it's more my goofy body than anything. I do believe 175 has become my setpoint as my body keeps gravitating to that number no matter what...which is good...it's what I wanted pretty much...just now I'd like it to be 167ish You guys know me

My question for the veterans...what do you do if you reach goal before the 3 weeks? I read somewhere you up calories to 1000? Anyone recall? I never had that problem before, so never paid attention.

Tomorrow is VLCD1!!!!! Soooo excited! Git er' done!!!!

See you in the morning to see what I've gained...I kinda ate a lot of junk