P3~P4 SIMEONS PROTOCOL DECEMBER 2012

[MOMMYONAMISSION]

Good Morning ladies, 207.6 today... I'm one pound over ldw (206.6). I'm ready to load and start p2.


Jeanyyy I wanted to get to 200 or below before starting again, but I will be below 200 before I know it. I've been in the 200's for far too long.

[julieboolie]

Hey girls!! Just popping in. I'm WAY off plan and enjoying myself. I know I'll need to repair the damage, but for now, I'm ok w. it. Owning it, choosing it and enjoying it!!

I'm making ham, mashed potatoes (which hold NO appeal for me!), green bean casserole, twice baked cauliflower, cookies for Chrismtas! Can't wait! I love spending time w. my family and having them all over to our house. It'll be a good excuse to clean and cook.

I wish you all a Merry Christmas in case I miss you next week!!

[pandora174]

Afternoon ! R3P4D12 & up +.04 to 130 so still -.02 under LDW. Have been exercising everyday so proud that I've been able to stick to that.

Keeping track of my food but not really stressing about what I'm eating. Eating anywhere from 1600 to 1900 cal and eating mainly P3 but if I want a sugar cookie I have "one" or a bite of something it's ok.

Off to do my cream cheese flan for tomorrow's dinner. We have our big meal tomorrow Christmas Eve and then for Christmas day I make a big breakfast, we open presents & then have left overs.

Working tomorrow so not too happy about that but hopefully they'll let us leave a little early.

[Jeanyyy]

Originally Posted by MOMMYONAMISSION

Jeanyyy I wanted to get to 200 or below before starting again, but I will be below 200 before I know it. I've been in the 200's for far too long.

I hear you on that, Mommy... I would LOVE to get below 200 before starting, but I don't see it happening with the holidays. We are going out for Christmas to a fancy dancey buffet, then again at NYE to a nice restaurant. NYE will be one of my loading days but for Christmas, I'm going to try to stick to crab, shrimp, smoked salmon, turkey n stuffin - just the things I really really love. The desserts in this place are okay, nothing special so that part should be easy. And I never have been a huge potato/rice/pasta eater. Bread and sweets are my downfall. Of course, I will probably have some wine with Christmas dinner too. I'm looking forward to it all!!

Up 0.5 lbs today to 203.5.

[pandora174]

Just thinking out loud so please bare with me. I started this diet journey at 248. I am now as of today 130. I "think" I am finally thin. I am working on toning since I really want to get very fit & toned.

I have accomplished my major goals of getting off anxiety meds, high blood pressure meds (2 of them) and this past week I passed 2 of my employer's health measures so I was able to get a healthy discount on my insurance & able to raise my life insurance 4x I used to eat everything in sight with no thought and would drink beer every single day. I have changed everything about what I put in my body

I can fit in a size small and a 4-6 in pants when I was a 3x ! I have the energy of a 20 something & I am 43. I am exercising now when before I couldn't go up the stairs without losing my breath. So why do I still feel I need to do another round ? I am pretty happy overall right now but what I can't understand is why I feel like I need to be 120 vs 130 ? I am 5'4 a small frame. The only one pressuring me is "me". It's strange when I think about it. It's like I can't relax and enjoy this new body. Like it's a work in progress & I am not done or something. What do I have to prove ?

Ok back to baking but these thoughts have been twirling around my head for a few days and I can't figure it out.

[Jeanyyy]

Pandora, were you 120 at some other point in your life? Maybe that's why that weight seems like the "right" one? I am 5' 6" tall and at my lowest, in my 30s after dieting, I was down around 127 or so. But I know that is way out of reach for me now... and *everyone* was telling me I was too thin then, also. Still... the thought is appealing, but this 63 yo body would be total sag and bag, I'm thinking....

[pandora174]

Originally Posted by Jeanyyy

Pandora, were you 120 at some other point in your life? Maybe that's why that weight seems like the "right" one? I am 5' 6" tall and at my lowest, in my 30s after dieting, I was down around 127 or so. But I know that is way out of reach for me now... and *everyone* was telling me I was too thin then, also. Still... the thought is appealing, but this 63 yo body would be total sag and bag, I'm thinking....

Yes, when I was a teenager LOL I was about 120-123. I gained weight when I got married at 21, then went on a drastic diet with diet pills when I was 25 but my highest weight them was 170 and got back down to 120 but by 28-29 I had gained all the weight and it kept climbing. I started trying to have a baby when I was 30 but had a few miscarriages including an ectopic pregnancy so I was really depressed for a few years. Then by the time I had my son at 33 I was 215 and the weight just kept climbing until my highest of 248.

Maybe subconsciously I am trying to get to that weight again It's just I keep getting a lot of "you're done right ?" "don't lose anymore " I don't know if people are being "diet haters" or I can't see it like I couldn't see exactly how heavy I was. kwim I always knew I was fat just not as fat as I really was lol so I'm wondering if the same thing is happening again (just reverse).

[sweetlady2k]

Originally Posted by pandora174

Yes, when I was a teenager LOL I was about 120-123. I gained weight when I got married at 21, then went on a drastic diet with diet pills when I was 25 but my highest weight them was 170 and got back down to 120 but by 28-29 I had gained all the weight and it kept climbing. I started trying to have a baby when I was 30 but had a few miscarriages including an ectopic pregnancy so I was really depressed for a few years. Then by the time I had my son at 33 I was 215 and the weight just kept climbing until my highest of 248.

Maybe subconsciously I am trying to get to that weight again It's just I keep getting a lot of "you're done right ?" "don't lose anymore " I don't know if people are being "diet haters" or I can't see it like I couldn't see exactly how heavy I was. kwim I always knew I was fat just not as fat as I really was lol so I'm wondering if the same thing is happening again (just reverse).

I was almost 2 inches shorter in high school than I am now. I also played tennis in tennis class, at lunch, during tennis practice after school and "for fun" with my friends almost daily. I also had a second PE class called personal fitness where we ran aroundd the whole school 3xs.. it took the whole 55 min class! There is no way I would have the time or inclination to workout anywhere near that much now! Im 5'10 now and was 5'8 then and 130lbs. My goal is anywhere from 140-145. I've been 142 and 147 two dfferent times as n adult and know I look just fine at that weight range. I've had 2 kids and know 130 isn't happening and I wouldn't look healthy at that weight anymore. Besides if you are working out pandora, you could stay around the same weight and just look better. Muscle takkes up less space so you will probably still lose inches.

[keepingcupsfull]

Pandora

Not using the scale as your guide how do you feel with your body at your current weight? What do you see when you look in the mirror now? The number on the scale is just that a number....go by how you feel and look when YOU look in the mirror. Being at a place you can maintain for the rest of your life should be a happy place. Sounds to me like you found it. Only you know what the scale says each day. You have done a great job. Enjoy the success .You have earned it.

I do understand what you are saying, for me it was I want to be 179 then 169 what's 10 more pounds to 159
Today at 160.8. I really want to see 159. I'm wondering when or if I will ever be happy and maintain. I think I'm finally there.

Good luck with whatever you decide.

[C'Marie]

@Pandora, for what it's worth, I would stay there for awhile and see how you do longer term maintaining where you area at and healing your body all the way around - let your mind catch up. In my experience, since each round is sooooooo different, and each stabilization is different, if you are "sticking" this weight fairly easy and finding it somewhat simple to maintain, I don't know whether I would do another round or not. I have seen people (me included) that go down a little farther and then have a heck of a time maintaining, for whatever reason. I'm not trying to scare you, just saying that if your body likes this weight and is ok with hanging out there, not sure I would try to coax it farther at this time.

I also think some of those very same thoughts, and wonder about the "not" seeing yourself as it is now, just like when you were heavier, only in reverse. I've thought those *exact* thoughts. I am a good 30 pounds right now from what I *think* I'd like to be at, and almost 15 pounds from my lowest since starting hcg. What I am tackling now, at least in the short term, is my mind-body connection, trying to heal my adrenals, and working on PT (hip). I may jump to another round, to get that last 15 off yet again, but if I don't heal my adrenals/thyroid/mind-body/meno hormones it may not stay off.

ON the other hand, if you are a ways from meno, maybe if you get it off you won't have a heck of a time like I am right now. I did my first round and started menohell. I have been such a yo yo after round 4, where the first 3 were (in comparison) a piece of cake.

I hope you take this in the spirit it's given. (((HUGS)))

[pandora174]

Thanks everyone for all the comments !! I really appreciate everyone's opinions I think I've been dwelling on this because the last week of P3 & P4 I've been pretty happy with how I've been eating and stabilizing nicely at 130. When I honestly look at my body I am not happy with this small tire around my belly, my thighs and butt are pretty saggy. The last 5 days that I've been doing my work out dvd I've felt less stress about the scale. So the thought of another round is sounding less appealing. I'm hoping that by religiously exercising I can tone the areas that are bothering me most (butt/thighs/belly). I kept reading about these people doing "shaping" rounds with hcg so that's always been in the back of my mind as well.

So for now I'm going to keep doing what I'm doing, keep working out and see what happens when I come back from vacation (1/31 to 1/6). If I go crazy and gain I will do another round to rein any damage done but if it goes how I hope then maybe I'll do a few egg/greek yogurt days and keep on maintaining. But I honestly can't say that "the shaping round" idea doesn't appeal to me and even if I do well on vacation that I won't do a mini round.

So for now I'm not going to overly stress and see how I feel when I come back from vacation.

[pandora174]

Morning Ladies ! Woke up to tom so yuck & up +1.0 today but I guess better this week than next week when we're on vacation. Hope everyone has a wonderful Christmas

[MOMMYONAMISSION]

Good morning all! 207.6 today, exactly the same weight as yesterday. Ldw is 206.6.

I hope everyone has a wonderful Christmas Eve!

[C'Marie]

I've been JUDDDing pretty hard for the last week after doing two Up Up and AWAY days last Saturday and Sunday. I am now 3.6 from LIW. Going to MIL's for Christmas Eve nosh, and she always has super yummy stuff. I am hoping, actually, that she doesn't have any gluten-free treats so I don't eat any of the goodies but knowing her, she probably will. I'm the only one she does it for - she really is super sweet to me. Last weekend, my graduation from college (FINALLY-at 50+) she made me a whole gluten-free cake, from gluten-free cake mixes, so full sugar, carbs, etc.... but the weight came back off quick, four down days later. I just can't afford to do two UP days again. I will have FUN regardless of the food

Merry Christmas to all!

[MOMMYONAMISSION]

Merry Christmas ladies, 207.6 today Very happy about it. I had a taste of fudge last night and some tortilla chips last night.

[pandora174]

Merry Christmas everyone ! With my tom and Christmas dinner I went up +2.2 lbs which put me 3.0 over ldw. I'm not really upset because I really ate very reasonably. I had 1 plate not my usual 3 or 4. I had a small serving of the roasted pork, the plantains and the rice with salad. I had then a small serving of the cream cheese flan. I did not drink wine and had 2 squares of Godiva dark chocolate. I knew I was going to go up regardless because my tom is raging !!!

So today I decided to do a Greek yogurt day since my stomach was very upset from tom and yesterday's meal. Having a wonderful day with the family. My husband got me a stand mixer & fancy blender I've been wanting. Tomorrow back to work and will eat high protein/healthy fat & hopefully I'll lose some of this inflammation if not it will come off when tom leaves.

Hope everyone has a wonderful day & Santa delivered lots of presents

[dawnyama]

Popping in ladies to say "Merry Christmas" !!!! I sort of gave up on the round, it was just too hard to stick with it with all the busyness we have had this past week. So I stopped my pellets and just ate whatever. Now I am ready to get back to it! So my interruption is done and going back to P2 tomorrow or the next day. Not sure if I am ready to go back to the strictness of P2 or not, but I have to! I just finished tom (part of why I couldn't/didn't stick to P2) so glad that is out of the way for the rest of the round! WooHoo!!!

[sweetlady2k]

I am on loading day 2 and will be on r2p2 tomorrow.

[pandora174]

Morning ! My greek yogurt correction day netted me a -2.4 loss to 130.8 so back down to only +0.6 over ldw.

Back to normal P3 eating and exercise after the Christmas Eve dinner & tom. Today going to ease into the calories so "hopefully" I can lock in the loss from the cd.

Here's the thing I really really didn't overeat on Christmas Eve. I had a "normal size" dinner with a very small serving of dessert. I ate P3 with low carb for breakfast & lunch & I skipped the alcohol. Dinner was carb heavy though. So I am hoping that the majority of that overnight 2.2 gain was tom and not having a "normal meal" but this does not bode well for my vacation when I was hoping to not blow up like a blimp.

See today I had an epiphany of sorts. I was last night looking up menus and wondering what to eat or if to drink or not on vacation and completely stressing myself out. I realized I have 6 days off with my family and I was turning it into a hardship and what the heck was I doing ?? So today I have decided to RELAX, take it one day at a time, drink and eat and ENJOY my vacation, not necessarily to eat everything in sight because I honestly can't do that but to enjoy a nice meal with my husband and son or a snack here and there. I already have 2 bottles of pellets sitting in my cabinet so I will do another round and use the time off to load and do a round to get the vacation weight off and hopefully another 5 lbs and stop stressing so much.

Now I feel like a huge weight is off my shoulders and I can enjoy the time off coming.

[MOMMYONAMISSION]

Ok so yesterday I didn't eat anything I was supposed to eat except for a small salad. I had a lot of sugar and even some mashed potatoes. I had 2 1/2 dinner rolls too :/
I prepared myself to be way up today. I weighed in today at 209.6 only 1lb over the 2lb limit. I was thinking I was going to be wayyyyy up today.
I'm doing a correction day of coffee and bacon. I know it will come off tomorrow This just showed me when I'm all done with the drops and lost all I needed to lose, I can eat "normal" I can Fix it right away.

I did wake up with a headache and my stomach hurt all night. I'm sure its from all that sugar.

[tarheelkris]

Morning ladies! I hope everyone had a wonderful Christmas with their families! I am 125.8 this morning for the third day in a row. This is 1.6 below LDW. I was better than I had hoped to be over the holiday. Lucky for me, I am a super picky eater and my MIL didn't cook one thing that I like on Christmas Eve.

[C'Marie]

tarheelkris, you are lucky indeed, LOL - My MIL cooked all gluten-free stuff for me, so guess what!? I ate it! ha ha. Now doing corrections with JUDDD down days as I can this week. We are with more family for 5 days and traveling.

Merry day-after-Christmas to all!

[MOMMYONAMISSION]

So i was supposed to be doing a cd today....bacon and coffee..I only ended up eating only 6 pieces of bacon and plenty of coffee. I had 1/4 of a cup of Greek yogurt, and thats it today. I hope I still lose. It's way to late to eat more bacon now... Right?

[Jeanyyy]

We went out to a fancy dinner buffet for Christmas Day and I ate exactly what appealed to me: peel-and-eat cold shrimp and cocktail sauce, thinly sliced onion and capers, poached salmon, crab, grilled pineapple, grilled mushrooms, turkey, dressing, cranberry sauce, the "crusty" spicy outer fat part of the carvery roast beef (heaven!), 2 mini mincemeat tarts, a couple of truffles... 6 oz of the 9 oz glass of merlot. So when I weighed this morning, I was very pleased that I only gained one pound... Being careful-ish today with lots of water, hoping that the landslide of weight gain doesn't show up tomorrow.

[pandora174]

Morning ! Hopefully the last day of my tom & a valuable lesson learned for me "don't bother with a CD during tom" because today I went up +1.6 today so I'm over +2.2 over ldw. I had a feeling because I was still bloated and even after excercise and a hot bath I still felt crampy. Not stressing just going to eat clean today and the weight will come off.

Getting excited about vacation next week and time to relax and enjoy time with the family. Going to enjoy myself and likely will drink. Just decided to keep up with my exercise, probably a jog in the morning or 20 min work out. Then will do a small round when I get back to lose any vacation weight and maybe the last 10 lbs.

Happy Pre-Friday everyone !

[MOMMYONAMISSION]

Hello everyone, I'm down to 208.6 today, ldw is 206.6. I want to get back down to ldw or lower before I start the drops next week.
I'm going to do high fat and protein today.

Keep up the good work ladies

[julieboolie]

Good morning ladies! I think you're all doing great!!

Pandora-that's amazing!! You're in range, tiny and happy w/ your eating!! What a victory!!I think exercise for a while and re-evaluate!

Kris-WTG!! Nice job!! Below LDW and through the holidays? That's quite an accomplishment!!

Marie-keep fighting the fight. Part of living this new life is enjoying what you want, and correcting afterwards. You'll be fine.

MOM-you're doing great!! Keep going, you'll be back down .

Jeanyyy-nice. That's not much of a gain. Glad you enjoyed it! Good luck on your next round!!

Dawn-I suspected that round would be doomed . Right before Christmas? Crazy girl!! But, at least you're lower than you would have been, so that's something right? You'll do fine!! Good luck!!

I'm WAY up. I earned it though. I have been a bad girl!! But, it sure was fun!! Back to exercise and VLCarb today. I need it. I just bought a bunch of eggs, and have bacon and ham to use up. Making broc/cheese and ham casserole and some quiche. It'll come back down (to a point) pretty quickly, but the next drop will likely be tougher. Not sure if I'll be able to get there w/ LC alone or if I'll need to do a <gulp> hcg round. I hope not!! We all know it works, but I really hate P2!! I'll live

Hope you're all enjoying a relaxing week. It's nice and cool here in AZ (finally!!) so it's perfect walking and hiking weather! We're shooting for a visit to Sedona this weekend for a nice mountain hike.

[MOMMYONAMISSION]

Julie you look great!

[dawnyama]

Julie--I agree, you look great!!! I am down 3.8 lbs!!!! I only had steak yesterday so I guess that is why, but when I have been eating everything in sight, when you start the hcg and cut down to steak only.....BAM! Comes right off!!! This rounds is starting off on a great foot!!!!!

Keep on keeping on everyone!!!

[Jeanyyy]

Congrats, Dawn... that is an awesome drop!

I am down 0.8 lbs today, still well below LDW after Christmas Day. Should be clear sailing until I load NYE. I haven't decided if I'll start loading Dec 30th then NYE or NYE and then Jan 1 (probably the latter). In any event, I'm looking forward to P2 and losing more weight!