Last 10 pounds on HCG... Cannot lose weight..

[vicki786]

Thanks for starting this thread! I have lost 15 pounds using HCG and 800 cal diet on my first round.

I then tried couple of times but could not lose weight. I then waited for a while and started another round of HCG and 800 cal. Now, I am not losing weight like a pound daily.

Please help. I just need to lose last 10 pounds and keep it. Here is what I eat:

1) lots of vegs;
2) One apple a day
3) 4 oz of chicken at lunch
4) 6 oz of beef
5) lots of water, tea and coffee..

I also have thyroid and take medication. But I am not eating much and I am not sure what is the problem..

Please advise..

Victoria

[dawnyama]

What day are you on? Did you load this time? On the original protocol you are allowed 500 calories. Maybe the 800 calories are too much this time. Try doing that. You are to have 2 3.5 oz servings of protein; 2 fruits; 2 servings of veggies; 2 servings of Melba total per day, broken up into 2 meals a day. I would suggest you stick with the original plan and it will come off. When I was doing P2 I got to my goal weight easily. It seemed to melt right off---even those last 10 pounds. I even got down to 113, so it can be done. Just be persistent. Show your body you mean business. You have done a round and know it works! Good luck!

[vicki786]

Thanks so much for the reply. I am on day 7 at this point and I only eat more proteins.. I tried to load and my body just wanted sweet at the time.

[dawnyama]

You should at least be shedding any bloat or loading gains you had. Have you lost any weight at all? I always count the load weight with the weight I lose on a round. I gained it, I lost it, I count it!

Oh, and if you are overeating the proteins---that is the problem. You are eating just enough protein (those 2 3.5 oz servings) to NOT have your body eating your muscles for the protein. If you overeat the protein your body won't shed weight. Like I said, you should follow the original plan and THEN if you don't lose you can tweak.

[shelbyla]

Victoria - I'm also hypothyroid. and meds or no meds, I lost just fine on hhCG.

A couple more questions for you...

1. You say you waited "a while" then started a second round. How long did you wait? Did you do 3 weeks or P3 and at least 3 weeks of P4?

2. Are you using rx or homeopathic? If rx, are you using an old batch or did you mix a new one? If you are using hhCG, have you kept it away from electronics, have you stopped using mint/camphor/tea tree oil?

3. Are you hungry at all? What is your dosage?

4. Have you eliminated any and all lotions and oils from your beauty products?

5. Are you sticking to the protocol list of veggies or have you added other things?

6. Have you cheated at all?

The other thing is, the closer you get to your goal weight (and 10 pounds is pretty darn close!), the slower you are going to lose. You won't lose "like a pound a day"--you just won't. Your loss might be closer to 0.3 to 0.5 per day or even less just because you ARE so close.

Answer these questions, post some EXACT menus, and we can probably help more...

[vicki786]

First of all, THANKS A LOT for your replies...

To answer everyone's questions:

0. I have lost the weight I gain during 1st phase of gaining weight. I was 138 and not I am 134.

A couple more questions to answer...

1. You say you waited "a while" then started a second round. How long did you wait? Did you do 3 weeks or P3 and at least 3 weeks of P4?

I finished one round of P1, P2 and P3; lost 15 pounds. Got existed went back to P1 and P2 but my body got so weak where I fainted twice. So, I stop the process. And after a while tried getting on 1000 cal HCG diet and lost no weight since I always consume around 1200 cal a day...

After 3 to 4 months, I decided to go back to 500 to 800 cal; P1 completed with lots of sweets; and I am not on P2...


2. Are you using rx or homeopathic? If rx, are you using an old batch or did you mix a new one? If you are using hhCG, have you kept it away from electronics, have you stopped using mint/camphor/tea tree oil?

I got a new HCG drop for this round, if this is what you are asking...

3. Are you hungry at all? What is your dosage?

I occasionally get hungry and eat veg's... And I take 3/10 drop morning, lunch and dinner time.

4. Have you eliminated any and all lotions and oils from your beauty products?
Have not used any in this round of HCG diet.

5. Are you sticking to the protocol list of veggies or have you added other things?

I focused on green veg's no tomato at all.

6. Have you cheated at all? Probably more meet at times...

I feel I am losing but I do not see it on my scale and I am always constipated and take med for it every day but it is not helping much since I am not eating much...

And lastly lots of tea with Stevia...

My exact diet:

1) Apple (large size) in the morning with tea and one tablespoon of Non fat milk
2) 3 to 4 OZ of chicken; lettuce and Cucumber
3) 4 to 4 OZ of Cooked red meet; cabbage and Cucumber

And take a Vitamin D 5000 and my thyroid med

Hope to hear from you soon..

[dawnyama]

So, if you have lost 4 lbs and are on day #7 of losing then you are losing weight!!! You are right on target for what WOMEN are supposed to lose on this plan, which is 1/2 lb per day. You just have to continue doing what you are doing. It will come off. What are you taking for the constipation? I take Natural Calm (magnesium supplement) for it and it works, but not like my psyllium I am taking now. Psyllium is the best for me! But I am in P4 and done with the weight loss portion of the plan for now.

Anyway, you are dong great!! Just hang in there a bit longer. You are probably losing inches which means you will fit into smaller clothing--better than losing weight!!!

[shelbyla]

Ok, I am a protocol gal so I am going to advise you based on the original 500 calorie Simeons protocol. If you choose to deviate, that is totally your choice but if you don't work the plan as it's written, then don't blame the plan for not working.

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I have lost the weight I gain during 1st phase of gaining weight. I was 138 and not (now?) I am 134.

FYI, there is really no "P1" unless you are following the Kevin Trudeau plan. P1 is NOT the loading/gorging phase. P2 is the VLCD 21-40 days, P3 is the no starches/no sugars phase for at least 21 days, P4 is adding back starches and sugars slowly for at least another 21 days.

I finished one round of P1, P2 and P3; lost 15 pounds. Got existed (excited?) went back to P1 and P2 but my body got so weak where I fainted twice. So, I stop the process. And after a while (again, what is "a while"?) tried getting on 1000 cal HCG diet and lost no weight since I always consume around 1200 cal a day...

So you need to make sure that you did 3 weeks of P3 (the no starches no sugars phase) and AT LEAST 3 weeks of P4 so a total of 6 weeks in between your P2's. If you didn't have at least 6 weeks in between, that could be why you are not losing. I am also assuming that you did AT LEAST 21 days of P2. If not, that could also be a reason that you are not losing

After 3 to 4 months, I decided to go back to 500 to 800 cal; P1 completed with lots of sweets; and I am not on P2...

Not loading well could cause hunger but usually shouldn't cause you to not lose. If you regularly eat 1200 calories, your body was likely in starvation mode and you probably should have loaded better with more fats, etc. I don't understand when you say you are NOT ON P2 (above)

I got a new HCG drop for this round, if this is what you are asking...

I am asking if you are using drops or injections FROM A DOCTOR BY PRESCRIPTION (rx) or if you are using homeopathic drops that have 3x, 6x, 12x, 18x hhCG labeled on them. Some things marketed as hhCG these days are actually nothing but amino acids and may not be very effective and couild cause you to not lose. Check your bottle for actual HCG hormone in it. It's good that you opened a new one. Be careful to never touch the dropper to your hands, mouth or lips. Also keep the drops away from electronics as those can deactivate the drops. If you are using homeopathic, you also cannot have mint or camphor.

I occasionally get hungry and eat veg's... And I take 3/10 drop morning, lunch and dinner time.

You should not be eating more than your ration of veggies. Portion them out as approximately 10oz per day. It isn't unlimited. Dosage looks good. Make sure you are not eating or drinking ANYTHING within 15-20 minutes of taking the drops.

Have you eliminated any and all lotions and oils from your beauty products?
Have not used any in this round of HCG diet.

Good.

I focused on green veg's no tomato at all.

Do you have the list of allowed veggies? I didn't ask about tomatoes but some people add broccoli, cauliflower, summer squash/zucchini, green beans, etc. If you've added those, drop them.

Have you cheated at all? Probably more meet at times...

As Dawn recommends, stick to your allowed portions, 3.5 ounces of raw meat/seafood/poultry. Some people do fine on more meat. Some don't. This would be the first thing I would change. If you are hungry, I would add a single egg white instead of more meat. You might also try NOT eating beef every day. That can stall some people.

I feel I am losing but I do not see it on my scale and I am always constipated and take med for it every day but it is not helping much since I am not eating much...

The meds for constipation can actually cause you to retain water. Careful with them. It's good you are noticing a difference. It's called Pounds & INCHES for a reason!

And lastly lots of tea with Stevia...

My exact diet:

1) Apple (large size) in the morning with tea and one tablespoon of Non fat milk
2) 3 to 4 OZ of chicken; lettuce and Cucumber
3) 4 to 4 OZ of Cooked red meet; cabbage and Cucumber

You are missing one fruit, you have two veggies at night, and you don't have any grissini or melba toast. I would again go back to exact protocol, drop one of your veggies at night, add a fruit, maybe add grissini if you feel like you need more.

And take a Vitamin D 5000 and my thyroid med

Hope to hear from you soon.


I will ask...have you read Dr. Simeons Pounds & Inches? I would really recommend it if you haven't. There is a link to a short form at the top of this forum and you can get the original by googling online. If you still aren't losing weight, I think I might recommend starting over with loading for 2-3 days on FATS and FATTY PROTEIN NOT sugar. Then start the 500 calorie protocol as it was originally written. Being so close to goal, you might need to do those things to get to where you want to be.

Hopefully some of that is helpful.

[shelbyla]

Here is the link to the short form...

HCG diet short form

[dawnyama]

Originally Posted by shelbyla

Here is the link to the short form...

HCG diet short form

Love that thing. What a gem of a thread.

[vicki786]

Wow... You guys are amazing. Thanks for the support. I am using homeopathic drops (DesBio). It's instruction says to take 10 drops 3x or 6X but I have been taking 3x a day.

BTW, I am also over 50... so you know..

Should I NOW:

1) stick to the diet and continue to 40 days?
2) Just stay for 21 days...
3) What if I should take 6x/10 drops now?

I appreciate your feedback...

Victoria

[buttah]

For women a half a pound a day is the average. But I didn't lose that much, and many others don't either. (I lost "only" 17 lbs, not counting load weight, in 45 days - and I was thrilled.) Age and size play into it as well.

I'm not sure why you think there's a problem.

[nspeedracer]

What thyroid meds? I know many, including me, who can't lose on levo/synthroid. We had to switch to natural dessicated armour type to be able to lose.

[pandora174]

I agree I am on my last 3 lbs to get to goal. My first round I lost 27.5 & then next round 15 (27 if you count loading) & this round I am at 17 lbs from loading & on day 36. I am fast loser & gainer but very very happy with my results so far. Some days I will lose 1 lb or more but I know that then it slows to a few ounces & then I have a day I gain a little or stall & the next day it starts up again. Your losses are great ! I'm going a little beyond 40 days because I had a PI that set me back a little and have 3 lbs till goal & 1 week to do it. I personally would stick to 40 days if your not struggling. For me personally my current round has been very positive & my head has really been in the game so I could even extend it but I want to stabilize nicely and won't risk it. Why would you cut it short, if your losing ? I say go for the 40 days & then P3/P4 & think about your losses at 800 cal vs me for ex at 500 cal. Your doing great ! At 800 cal I could probably be in P2 forever jk

[vicki786]

Thanks for everyone's input. If I go lower than 800, I cannot function. Today, I tired to stick to 500 cal and by noon, I could not function and I could not concentrate working. I am not exercising either...

And honestly, I feel I am getting thin but it does not show on the scale. I feel my body is tightening...

And my thyroid med is synthroid... If I spell it correctly...

I am so happy I found this site... Any other suggestion, please pass it on...

[emel]

Originally Posted by vicki786

Thanks for everyone's input. If I go lower than 800, I cannot function. Today, I tired to stick to 500 cal and by noon, I could not function and I could not concentrate working. I am not exercising either...

And honestly, I feel I am getting thin but it does not show on the scale. I feel my body is tightening...

And my thyroid med is synthroid... If I spell it correctly...

I am so happy I found this site... Any other suggestion, please pass it on...

Hi Vicki. I'm in my 50's, too.

The second round hcg is notorious for being slower than the first hcg round. A lot of women lose almost a pound a day in round one and then in round two their losses slow to a half or even a quarter of a pound a day.

The protocol gals will advise you to do the hcg plan as written (500 cal, 2 fruits, the melba, etc). I have a lot of respect for these fine women, but I disagree about using the strict protocol and 500 cal if you're weak and fainting. I have walked in those shoes.

I would recommend that you examine what you're losing on this second round of hcg on 800 cal. Maybe it isn't a pound a day, but if it's 2 or 3 pounds a week, that's still a great loss, and if you're willing to do 42 days it will add up to fifteen pounds gone.

If you're staying on hcg, I'd advise you to stick with the 800 cal but maybe tweak your plan by moving the foods around a little. Maybe have a ounce of protein with your normal breakfast and then proceed as usual, and try a new veggie or two. Radishes maybe, or cauliflower, or asparagus, or whatever is 'legal' on your plan. If you shake the plan up a little, your body might get over its resistence to losing.

Now, I saw your post on the eat fat get thin forum. You said in that forum that you were thinking of trying EFGT on 800 calories. Personally, I would advise against doing that if you're NOT on hcg, and I'm not sure I'd do hcg with the high fat ratio of EFGT. That's my personal opinion.

But, this is your journey. A guy named Fozzie did hcg with EFGT meals. There's a thread on hcg forum about it. Maybe you could find what you're looking for there:

New Start HCG with EFGT meals

If you do this, please please please don't cut your protein too much. Please don't go below 7 ounces of meat, weighed raw, a day.

Good luck.

[shelbyla]

Emel sighting! Hi Emel!

[emel]

Well hi yourself, Shelby!

Vicki, how are things going? Do you feel okay on the 800 cal plan?

[vicki786]

Hello my online friends:

I finally lost 2 more pounds when I used more drop and tried to stick to the diet. However I was straving to death and could not concentrate at work.

So, I will go with 800 cal and eat what I have been told... You guys are great.

I also thought I can get on EFGT as I love Greek yogurt

Thanks again for all your postings...

[emel]

Originally Posted by vicki786

Hello my online friends:

I finally lost 2 more pounds when I used more drop and tried to stick to the diet. However I was straving to death and could not concentrate at work.

So, I will go with 800 cal and eat what I have been told... You guys are great.

I also thought I can get on EFGT as I love Greek yogurt

Thanks again for all your postings...

I'm glad you checked in.

You sound like you know what you need to do to keep yourself feeling okay.

Your losses might be slower than you'd like, but at least you're moving in the right direction, right?