P3~P4 SIMEONS PROTOCOL NOVEMBER 2012

[shelbyla]

Originally Posted by cocoapeanut

During the off-site, I also discovered that I am in fact sensitive to gluten..though the intensity of the effects depends on the amount I consume. I ate probably the same amount of it as everyone else and was sleepy, bloated and gassy, stomach hurting, a little nauseous, etc. When I ate more of it I felt like I had allergies (itchy eyes, a little sniffly, pressure headache)! And I definitely don't have that happen when I eat rice or potatoes, even if it's a lot. It's so weird to me because I've eaten it for most of my life but now it's like I can't eat it anymore unless it's like one small thing.. Don't know whether to feel happy or sad? Maybe just neutral.

So I promised myself to be primarily gluten free and mostly sugar free from now on, because Monday and Tuesday night's suffering was SO not worth it!! And sugar-free definitely does not include SF Oreos, because I threw that in out of curiosity (never really had maltitol before) on Tuesday night and dearly paid for it all night..lol. Maltitol, wheat, probably corn syrup, other random chemicals...I feel like I'm getting over a cold or something. Experiments..sheesh!

Dude! That's so not fun! Oh well. You probably enjoyed it at the time??? I think you and I may have to try the laser thing with pasta. Every time I think about doing that, it totally cracks me up. Now I am actually thinking about the two of us doing it together...which is even funnier!
Step 1: suck on cottonball.
Step 2: stick slightly damp cotton ball in belly button.
Step 3: hold lasagne noodle in front of belly button.
Step 4: have friend shine laser light into belly button through lasagne noodle for 2 minutes while shooing cats away and trying to hold the light steady while cracking up at the same time...

Originally Posted by dawnyama

I loved that pic of you and Shelby. Looks like you had fun

We had an awesome time! You should have seen us--two girls WELL over 6 feet tall (in our heels!) ruling the room!

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Ok. Update from me... This week has been crazy crazy busy with work and social stuff so my exercise has been off--one cardio session Tuesday, yoga tonight, hopefully more cardio tomorrow. My Monday tiredness was apparently from skipping my meds Monday morning ( ) but I think I may be burning the candle a wee bit too much on both ends. My usual weekend gain is still hanging around more than I would like but hoping for a couple of pounds off in the next few days to get me back to fighting (weekend) weight. I can still seem to eat enormous amounts of calories and not gain as long as they are primarily fat. I am still sitting in the mid-140's and my pants all still fit so I am ok with where I am right now.

Hugs to all!

[dawnyama]

No one is lasering anymore. I thought it was hilarious when it was all the rage a while back. I don't know what to laser because nothing is giving me trouble. Maybe I should maybe laser my mind---it wants what it wants, when it wants LOL. No rhyme or reason, just want the bad foods. All of them nothing specific!

[shelbyla]

Maybe it will have a resurgence...most of the time all it takes is a mention...

[cocoapeanut]

Dawn -- lol!! I should try that one!

Shelby -- ... That sounds like a total party!! LASER PARTY! A party that only we would have..lolol. I'll just casually hold a bunch of cooked (not raw, right? who wants to eat raw..hehe) gnocchi in front of my stomach. That's not weird. And you know your devious cat is going to see the light and jump at our bare stomachs, right? Can we drink?? It would be amazing if it actually worked despite all of that!

[C'Marie]

Originally Posted by buttah

I'm in my window with over a pound to spare. This is getting boring. Good boring.

In this WOE, boring is GOOD. Good job!

[LaraSuzz]

hi... well I stuck the loss from Thursday it but didnt loose today.. got into some salami... and I put too much salt on some chicken. need to stick to my pork roast and eggs. im still 5 out of the window but its better than 10 right? 5 out isnt bad I guess. I will try to do coffe with cream all day and then I dunno what.

I just want to be in the window dang it.Lara

[dawnyama]

Originally Posted by LaraSuzz

hi... well I stuck the loss from Thursday it but didnt loose today.. got into some salami... and I put too much salt on some chicken. need to stick to my pork roast and eggs. im still 5 out of the window but its better than 10 right? 5 out isnt bad I guess. I will try to do coffe with cream all day and then I dunno what.

I just want to be in the window dang it.Lara

I hear ya girl in the window would be pretty darn nice right now. You can do it!!

[Bitsky]

Hello all,

I'm up a few extra lbs from where I'd like to be but I feel confident I can get things back down. I'm actually feeling crappy from all the junk I've been eating so I shouldn't have such a hard time staying away from it this weekend....I hope.
I want to be happy it's Friday but I've been dreading them lately because I seem to lose all control come weekend. I need a new hobby and a couple friends. I did the whole 'detach from everyone' when I hooked up with my bf, now we're a couple years into it and we're done speding every minute together...but I don't have any friends now, or they're busy when I'm not...it's tough.

[shelbyla]

Happy Friday, peeps! Well, exercise did not happen either last night or this morning. Blame it on pure exhaustion. I may or may not try to get some in tomorrow but I'm not going to beat myself up if I end up taking a week or so off. Good news is that my temps are still up and pretty steady so I know I am managing my adrenals well. I think this is just normal tiredness from a lot of work and play.. (Amy, I know I owe you response re: your labs! ) Haven't lost anything the last few days but as noted I have not exercised except once this week. I'm going to see where I land tomorrow but I'm actually just cruising along content here. I am a little less than 3 above my normal window less than a pound above my weekday window. Keeping it clean, getting some rest and not overdoing the booze this weekend should certainly help.

Hope everyone else's day is low-key and y'all have a fab weekend!

[Sas]

Can't wait to be in P3 with y'all! 140s here I come!
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[Crazy PreK Teacher]

Originally Posted by Sas

Can't wait to be in P3 with y'all! 140s here I come!
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WOW!!! Great job!!!

[Crazy PreK Teacher]

Hi ladies

I will be joining you on Monday!!! Yesterday was last dose day. Kinda nervous, but I should do okay. I'm going to move on to LC/JUDDD next Monday after Thanksgiving. Seems like it may be a good program for me...protein/fat needed.

I hit 175.8 this morning...I just needed to see that 175

See ya soon!!!

[Felina]

Wow Sas! You are practically at goal! Must feel good. Congrats!

Crazy Prek, you're starting a new journey. You have been an inspiration. You have thought your plan out we'll so I'm sure you will have continued success!

[Felina]

Sorry for the double post, but I just checked my new signature and realized that I lost 100 lbs since I started working on it about a year and a half ago. Yay!!!!

[Crazy PreK Teacher]

Originally Posted by Felina

Sorry for the double post, but I just checked my new signature and realized that I lost 100 lbs since I started working on it about a year and a half ago. Yay!!!!

WOW! 100 pounds!!!!

Awesome job!!!

Keep up the good work

[C'Marie]

GREAT JOB, FELINA!!!!!

See you in P3 soon, Angela! Great job achieving your goal!

[buttah]

Still here. Still in the window.

A few parents took our college kids out to brunch to this historic beloved pancake restaurant. It wasn't even hard not to order pancakes. (Everyone had pumpkin cranberry ones - they did look awesome.) I just had my omelet and was more than compensated by hearing the mom next to me go into shock that I wanted to lose 10 or 20 pounds (I only met her recently, post weight loss). "But you're tiny!" She didn't even think I had big boobs. That never happens.

Happy sigh.

[C'Marie]

A quick note - I'm heading to a work-study group and then onto a concert tonight. I will say I'm a bit discouraged. I did 3 DD this week and my weight has not budged. In fact, it's up. I did have 2 nights this week where I did not sleep well, so I resorted to meds the last 2 nights, so some of that could be waterlog from meds. But that certain number on the scale sure is a familiar one. I think I'm stuck. I may do an old-fashioned CD for my next DD, tomorrow.

The last few days I have noticed my skinny jeans getting loose. I hope it's a good sign. I'm just super nervous going into the Thanksgiving weekend holiday, NOT that I intend to over-indulge, but that I will be eating foods that are more carbo-licious while trying to stay as wheat-free as possible for my joints. I may need to lower my JUDDD numbers going forward.

[buttah]

C'Marie, YAY on loose skinny jeans. I hope your sleep improves.

My plan for Thanksgiving, just so I've said it "out loud" is:

Egg white or protein shake breakfast.

A healthy snack mid-day if needed.

Then, at our dinner:

lots of salad, pick out the croutons
turkey w/out the skin
and lots of veggies (our friends make the most delicious veggies you've ever had in your life - thank God)

If I indulge, it will be stuffing OR desert, but not both. I'll assess beforehand which looks more deserving. And only a small serving.

I pledge to gain the bulk of my holiday enjoyment from feeling skinny and having everyone notice. I suppose that's a healthier addiction, no?

Last night we were at a fundraiser - I knew there would be hors d' oeuvres coming at us right and left, and didn't want to be shipwrecked without healthy choices.

So to prepare, I had a broiled salmon fillet before we left at about 5pm (this was the same day as the pancake restaurant for breakfast where I had a veggie omelet instead of pancakes, mind you).

As a result, I wasn't even hungry at the fundraiser. I had one tiny chicken burger (about a tablespoon), without the "toast" it was on and a few slices of raw red peppers. I concentrated on seeing friends I hadn't seen in years. It was so much fun.

Gotta stay in this mindset. Gotta stay in this mindset. Gotta stay in this mindset.

[vness]

Starting Day 1 of P3 today.. here goes nothing..
My first day of P4 will be thanksgiving... oh boy!
My daughter actually told me I look "slim" today
I only lost about 10 pound in round 1 but I wasnt entirely faithful...lol
BUT its 10 pounds I couldnt have lost before .. thanks for all your help ladies

[shelbyla]

Originally Posted by vness

Starting Day 1 of P3 today.. here goes nothing..
My first day of P4 will be thanksgiving... oh boy!
My daughter actually told me I look "slim" today
I only lost about 10 pound in round 1 but I wasnt entirely faithful...lol
BUT its 10 pounds I couldnt have lost before .. thanks for all your help ladies

How are you figuring your P3 and P4? P3 is 21 days, P4 starts right after P3...

[vness]

i always forget to count the loading days as P1.. Im on the first of three days on the 500 cal no hcg.. Thought that was considered p3.. then several weeks of LC eating no starches or sugars right? P4 is maintenance?
Sorry for the confusion.. the verbage is new! lol

[shelbyla]

Ah, I see!

P1 - Cleanse phase prior to VLCD (created by Kevin Trudeau--most people skip this--this is NOT the loading days)
P2 - 23-42 days of the very low calorie protocol (this includes your loading days)
P3 - 21 days of no starches no sugars
P4 - at least 21 days of gradually adding back starches and sugars prior to any resumation of the VLC protocol

So you will be starting P3 on Thursday, NOT P4, which means no starches and no sugars on Thanksgiving. Does that sound right?

[shelbyla]

On another note entirely, it's gonna be a lowcarb Thanksgiving at my house with a little non-traditional food...


Curried Pumpkin Soup
Caesar Salad
Broccoli cheese casserole
Turnip/cauliflower mash
Osso bucco (braised lamb shank in tomato sauce--just cuz I have some lamb shank that I'd like to use up!)
Cranberry/apple relish
Low carb cheesecake

[Reddy]

Hi All, quickie post again. I honestly keep forgetting about this forum now that I don't get notifications. I feel terrible saying that, but I guess it's a testament to the fact that I no longer feel like I'm dieting and it's now just a WOE! I do miss you all though.

Skimmed the posts b/c my son is going to wake up soon and I have to finish a few things first, but wanted to say hi.

Where is this picture of Shelby and Cocoa? Did you guys meet up? Details....

Congrats to everyone who is doing well and to those of you struggling hang in there

As for me, I've been stuck at the 160 mark for about a week. That's 2lbs OVER top of window which I don't like but given how I've been eating I'm suprirsed the scale hasn't gone up. I've had carbs (not a lot but some) almost every day. I've tried to do some low carb days in attempt to "correct" but haven't been totally clean so they haven't yeilded more than a lb or so. Today so far I'm carb free and hope to keep it that way. I really want to be down at least 5lbs from here by Xmas. If not, I'm considering another round which I DO NOT want to do. We'll see.

Like Julie, I have found that Sugars don't effect me the way starches do. I can get away with some sugar, it's the heavy starchy stuff that kills me.

As always thanks for the support guys. I think I need to make a point to come here more so I can stay accountable and get motivation from you all!

Will try and check back again later!!!

[buttah]

Reddy, I will be doing my "goal round" around Dec. 17th. (I so wish it could be sooner, but the full 6 weeks off takes me to close to a weekend getaway, so I have to wait until after that.) So maybe I'll "see you" back in the P2 thread then?

Miss you!

[Crazy PreK Teacher]

I'm officially in P3 today!!!!!!

LDW was Friday (175.8)...today I am at 176.2...so up +.4, but it may be sodium...I seem tight/swollen. I finished up a 3-day FF...didn't lose...but I didn't gain much like I usually do after P2...so that's success I am feeling pretty good...I don't seem to be as tired, and not getting the 5 o'clock slump!

I am following LC JUDDD. Seems like it may be a good program for me. After the holidays...I am going to re-evaluate and possibly think about losing 10-15 lbs. more. I have been shrinking a lot more lately (even this week w/ maintaining!), and feel like perhaps this saggy skin may have more fat in it still...as long as it gets flatter & squishier...it tucks in really well with Spanx type garments

Have a great day!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[cocoapeanut]

Originally Posted by shelbyla

On another note entirely, it's gonna be a lowcarb Thanksgiving at my house with a little non-traditional food...


Curried Pumpkin Soup
Caesar Salad
Broccoli cheese casserole
Turnip/cauliflower mash
Osso bucco (braised lamb shank in tomato sauce--just cuz I have some lamb shank that I'd like to use up!)
Cranberry/apple relish
Low carb cheesecake

MMMM!

Save me some?

[dawnyama]

Originally Posted by Felina

Sorry for the double post, but I just checked my new signature and realized that I lost 100 lbs since I started working on it about a year and a half ago. Yay!!!!

Yay is right

[dawnyama]

Originally Posted by shelbyla

How are you figuring your P3 and P4? P3 is 21 days, P4 starts right after P3...

Whew!! Glad you have that covered. I was scared for a bit.