P3~P4 SIMEONS PROTOCOL NOVEMBER 2012

[dawnyama]

I am out of my window!! Seems to be a trend, huh?? LOL. I am on JUDDD and my UDs are so great!! I had my DD yesterday and weighed in this morning more than when I started out on JUDDD. Not too scared because I know it will work itself back down if I stick to the JUDDD rotations. Going out to lunch today with my DH on a date!!!! I don't have work, he is off for the federal holiday, and the kids have school. That rarely happens, so we are taking advantage of the alone time.

buttah--you are so right about Thanksgiving. I have done them on P2 and was quite pleased with myself. It was practically the first time I was not as stuffed as the turkey LOL. And what a nice feeling too. My whole family wanted to sleep after dinner, and I was feeling just fine. We always have enough leftovers to have Thanksgiving dinner for days afterwards that we don't have to eat it all in one day. I think we may need to post this a few times here so I can have it sink in "for me". I know that if I see something a few times, then I can do it.

[julieboolie]

Lara- I'm right there with you sista! Yep, carpooling sounds good for Spring in Palm Springs

Originally Posted by buttah

Julie, which 70-85% real sugar chocolate do you recommend? I don't really understand what the percentage means. Higher percentage, less sugar?

C'Marie, shopping is the best medicine. Retail therapy!

Sorry I don't have personals for everyone - I have about two seconds to type, then running out the door again.

Still securely in my window, just a half pound over LDW!

But I do want to say this to everyone: Don't be scared of being portion-conscious and NOT stuffing yourself on Thanksgiving (not saying any of you will, but so many women I know seem so afraid of it, it's like they've surrendered to inevitable abuse before it's even gotten here). It's possible to enjoy a holiday and not feel guilty if you pick your treats carefully (don't consider it a free-for-all where everything is "your" treat) and don't have huge portions. And no seconds. It really is possible. And remember: it's just another Thanksgiving. You've had tons of them and, if you live long enough (which being healthy is part of), you'll have tons more.

End of sermon. And please know I say it as much to myself as to everyone else.

Good reminder!! Thanks! I need to remember that just because I had 1 thing "off plan" or "carby" does not entitle me to throwing the entire day away and burrying myself in forbidden sweets since "I'll be up tomorrow anyway". That's more my problem anyway. I'm kinda' in "push it and see how far you can take it w.o. being punished on the scale" mode. I need to get back to "satisfied is enough for me" mode!

Originally Posted by Reddy

Hi All... fly by post.

I still can't seem to get notifications on any threads, PMs or anything. I don't get it. I'm subscribed here so it makes no sense.

Anyway, I have sort of fallen off the wagon taking the "I can have sugar and carbs" thing a little too far. I am 2lbs over window this morning so I set out to do a "meat day" and it just didn't happen. Carbs crept in. I really need to get myself in chekc before It turns into 5 + lbs.

Tomorrow I vow to make it a true proper correction and take it easy on the carbs!

Hope you're all doing great and maintaining well!

Yep. Me too. Gotta' reign it in!!

Originally Posted by dawnyama

I am out of my window!! Seems to be a trend, huh?? LOL. I am on JUDDD and my UDs are so great!! I had my DD yesterday and weighed in this morning more than when I started out on JUDDD. Not too scared because I know it will work itself back down if I stick to the JUDDD rotations. Going out to lunch today with my DH on a date!!!! I don't have work, he is off for the federal holiday, and the kids have school. That rarely happens, so we are taking advantage of the alone time.

buttah--you are so right about Thanksgiving. I have done them on P2 and was quite pleased with myself. It was practically the first time I was not as stuffed as the turkey LOL. And what a nice feeling too. My whole family wanted to sleep after dinner, and I was feeling just fine. We always have enough leftovers to have Thanksgiving dinner for days afterwards that we don't have to eat it all in one day. I think we may need to post this a few times here so I can have it sink in "for me". I know that if I see something a few times, then I can do it.

Enjoy your day off and your date!! Good for you!! Sorry you're up (too) and hope you're back down soon! JUDDD worked well for you in the past, hope it's working this time too!

Like many here, I'm up today! BUt, I totally earned it!! I was up yesterday after a nacho debacle Sat. night and dh took us to our favorite Chinese place - we usually only go on NYE. Anyway, chicken/broc and shrimp fried rice, on top of already being up, not a pretty picture. And, I did a "I"ll be up anyway, might as well have a bit of chocolate" rationalization last night, landing me WAY up today!! w. myself. Gotta' wrap my head around this sense of indulgence/entitlement and refind my happiness at being just "satisfied" and "content" w. just a bite here and there. Hopefully I can find it again b/4 I leave for vaca on Wed.! I need to remember that a bite or 2 of formerly off-plan items is a great indulgence and be happy w. that. I need to not eat the whole portion and feel justified since "everyone else is doing it". Working through that today.

So, I'm doing a GYCD. Didn't get to do it yesterday so I'll eat up my expired GY and hope for a nice drop tomorrow. I'd be surprised if I'm not down. But, I'll be LC the next few days and will do a carb cycling approach on vaca. There'll be days when it's easy to stay LC and some where it'll be too hard. Hope it'll work well .

[C'Marie]

@Buttah, you're right..... I have done Thanksgiving completely in control, not on P2 but just in control and did great. I will save calories for a little wine, too. I enjoy the time with the family and it's not about the food. Thanks for the reminder. AND I GOT THE DRESS - for $35.... no kidding. I look pretty good in it, too.

@Dawn, when you started JUDDD did you incorporate starches right away? If so that might be why you are up? maybe?

@Lara, Julie! YAY! Palm Springs, BABY! I would consider Vegas but I really don't like the atmosphere there... been there a couple times and I always wanted to go to Palm Springs. Hoping I can land us a decent condo soon. Those are the dates, I can't come before that (taxes) and after that is my DD birthday. Feel free to come for the weekend, or a long weekend, no problem.

@Reddy, you will get it under control again - so will all of us. It's why we are here for each other

[LaraSuzz]

C'Marie~ I totally know what you mean I was watching this show last night about the police on the Vegas strip and the lifestyle. wow, it's a crazy place... not the same place I grew up around, its very different now.

So yes Palm Springs sounds fun! I think I went there once but it was at night and I don't really remember anything about it at all. Hope there's good bars and restaurants... etc. yay Julie!

Ok so time for my cheese break... making chili for dinner I think.. and maybe a chili cheese smothered hamburger patty yum.

[shelbyla]

Hi guys! I don't think it's at ALL unusual to start the week out up. For me anyway, I find the weekends, the time when I socialize (i.e. drink booze) or eat out, almost always cause a gain, usually water weight related from added carbs or alcohol. One of the reasons that I always have baked chicken thighs on hand for my handy-dandy Monday cd!

As for me, I'm starting the week tired again, even thogh temps have been nice and steady in the normal range the last few days. At least it was a nice weekend, with some serious girl-time Saturday and some "boy" time last night! And speaking of, I am up 3 pounds after an indulgent day yesterday which included Souplantation (aka Sweet Tomatoes), a run in with some almond butter mid-afternoon, and a few potatoes with a late dinner last night. I also had a REALLY deep-tissue massage yesterday and WHOO nelly am I sore! Funny how a massage can make you more sore than when you started. Although, I must be a masochist 'cuz I kinda like it...

So today is a proper chicken thigh cd. Just had two for lunch and I'm going to try to keep myself busy enough this evening to have a single one for dinner. Probably won't be an issue as when I am tired I seem to be getting more and more nauseated these days. Feels like a hangover even though I didn't drink anything last night... I need a new Bluetooth--dropped mine somewhere Saturday night--and I probably should get in some exercise this evening as well, so that will keep me away from home and/or out of the kitchen for a good part of the evening. If I can row for 20-30 minutes I KNOW it will make me feel better (or at least less guilty!). Exercise when I'm already tired is kind of like pulling teeth for me!

Anyway, shout outs to all ma peeps, Dawn, Marie, Julie, Lara, Reddy, buttah, cocoa, misslatte, Shrinking, Angela, junkn, and anyone I missed! so sorry!...personals maybe tomorrow? Too tired right this second...

[buttah]

Originally Posted by julieboolie

Good reminder!! Thanks! I need to remember that just because I had 1 thing "off plan" or "carby" does not entitle me to throwing the entire day away and burrying myself in forbidden sweets since "I'll be up tomorrow anyway". That's more my problem anyway. I'm kinda' in "push it and see how far you can take it w.o. being punished on the scale" mode. I need to get back to "satisfied is enough for me" mode!

I guess I really try not think in terms of "up tomorrow" or "down tomorrow." I try to remember that true loss or gain takes more than one day - a week, or weeks, actually. But within those weeks, every day matters and every meal matters, at least (or perhaps especially) when you're trying to achieve lifetime change in eating habits and behavior that will bring true maintenance. KWIM?

So, for me, really helps not to assign some magical power to any 24 hour period. I know Simeons gets us thinking that way (for so many reasons I won't even list them, but I'm sure everyone knows what I mean), but I believe it's actually one of the pitfalls of HCG "thinking" that we have to try to caution ourselves against. Lest we want to live on a roller coaster of correction days and indulgence days. Which, if that's what works for you - try JUDDD, you might love it.

My opinion, anyway.

[buttah]

For those interested, my clinic has a very gradual and specific way to ramp in carbs (net carb servings and what they consist of, gradually rising) in P4. If anyone would like, I can type it up. I haven't followed it to the letter, but I've had far less carbs than it allows so far.

[C'Marie]

@Buttah, yes, please

(I always think when I see your name, "I'd like buttah with that, please" LOL)

[Shrinking]

Buttah!! I would appreciate the info you have on P4 as I'm nearing the end of a successful P3

I have to say everyone's help has been awesome! I was so worried about maintaining but have had success so far because I'm benefitting from all the experience on here. I work with a lady who laughs at anyone losing weight because she is convinced we all gain it back. I might as well tell you all I work in a Plus sized clothing store. We see many women who lose weight and many others who gain it all back. She is almost enough motivation to keep this weight off!!! I'd love nothing more than to prove a nasty know-it-all wrong! I took the job for the reason that I wanted nice clothes and a discount on new ones that fit me while losing weight. I no longer fit 98% of the clothes there. I think I will stick around a while longer just show that it will stay off. I mean it does work and she can't always assume if we don't see the ones who have lost weight anymore that they've left town, maybe they kept it off!!!

Ok that was a bit of a rant, sorry. I just get tired of the negativity. Half the girls I work with are trying HCG and I will help them succeed too. We can be the Shrinking team, haha!

Well I have managed to keep out of trouble going out to the movies with my family. I snacked on a couple of sugar free candies and two bottles of water. No popcorn!!! I'm at the correct weight still and owe it to all of you!

Thanks everyone!!

[LaraSuzz]

hi... I'm down 1.4 this am from my meaty day. Not bad for eating all that I did. I was full and happy.

I had a 3 egg omlet with cheddar, laughing cow cheese, chili with a hamburger patty and cheese, iceberg lettuce with blue cheese, two hard boiled eggs and some roasted chicken with brie...

I was worried about the roasted chicken cuz it was from walmart. The meat tasted like it was injected with garlic and chemicals. It was very moist, too moist in fact...

Have a good day all!!Lara

[julieboolie]

Lara-nice!! WTG!!

[quote=C'Marie;16074531 AND I GOT THE DRESS - for $35.... no kidding. I look pretty good in it, too.

@Lara, Julie! YAY! Palm Springs, BABY! I would consider Vegas but I really don't like the atmosphere there... been there a couple times and I always wanted to go to Palm Springs. Hoping I can land us a decent condo soon. Those are the dates, I can't come before that (taxes) and after that is my DD birthday. Feel free to come for the weekend, or a long weekend, no problem.

@Reddy, you will get it under control again - so will all of us. It's why we are here for each other [/QUOTE]
Can we see the dress? How 'bout a picture? That's not fair teasing us!! We did Vegas a few years ago w. dh and our friends. It's ok, but I think it's not really my scene these days! I have a timeshare and can look into condos in PS too. There's always availability there - several nice Marriott options. I'll be driving right through there tomorrow!!

Originally Posted by LaraSuzz

So yes Palm Springs sounds fun! I think I went there once but it was at night and I don't really remember anything about it at all. Hope there's good bars and restaurants... etc. yay Julie!

Ok so time for my cheese break... making chili for dinner I think.. and maybe a chili cheese smothered hamburger patty yum.

There is plenty of shopping and good restaurants. I used to go there for Spring Break in college , but I'm not sure about "night life" these days. I think of it as a kinda' snowbird hangout, but maybe there's another side I don't know of. It's been YEARS since I stayed there!!

Originally Posted by shelbyla

Hi guys! I don't think it's at ALL unusual to start the week out up. For me anyway, I find the weekends, the time when I socialize (i.e. drink booze) or eat out, almost always cause a gain, usually water weight related from added carbs or alcohol. One of the reasons that I always have baked chicken thighs on hand for my handy-dandy Monday cd!

As for me, I'm starting the week tired again, even thogh temps have been nice and steady in the normal range the last few days. At least it was a nice weekend, with some serious girl-time Saturday and some "boy" time last night! And speaking of, I am up 3 pounds after an indulgent day yesterday which included Souplantation (aka Sweet Tomatoes), a run in with some almond butter mid-afternoon, and a few potatoes with a late dinner last night. I also had a REALLY deep-tissue massage yesterday and WHOO nelly am I sore! Funny how a massage can make you more sore than when you started. Although, I must be a masochist 'cuz I kinda like it...

So today is a proper chicken thigh cd. Just had two for lunch and I'm going to try to keep myself busy enough this evening to have a single one for dinner. Probably won't be an issue as when I am tired I seem to be getting more and more nauseated these days. Feels like a hangover even though I didn't drink anything last night... I need a new Bluetooth--dropped mine somewhere Saturday night--and I probably should get in some exercise this evening as well, so that will keep me away from home and/or out of the kitchen for a good part of the evening. If I can row for 20-30 minutes I KNOW it will make me feel better (or at least less guilty!). Exercise when I'm already tired is kind of like pulling teeth for me!

Anyway, shout outs to all ma peeps, Dawn, Marie, Julie, Lara, Reddy, buttah, cocoa, misslatte, Shrinking, Angela, junkn, and anyone I missed! so sorry!...personals maybe tomorrow? Too tired right this second...

How're you feeling today? Still worn out? Hope your CD worked well for you! And yes, Monday is usually a day to correct for me!!

Originally Posted by buttah

I guess I really try not think in terms of "up tomorrow" or "down tomorrow." I try to remember that true loss or gain takes more than one day - a week, or weeks, actually. But within those weeks, every day matters and every meal matters, at least (or perhaps especially) when you're trying to achieve lifetime change in eating habits and behavior that will bring true maintenance. KWIM?

So, for me, really helps not to assign some magical power to any 24 hour period. I know Simeons gets us thinking that way (for so many reasons I won't even list them, but I'm sure everyone knows what I mean), but I believe it's actually one of the pitfalls of HCG "thinking" that we have to try to caution ourselves against. Lest we want to live on a roller coaster of correction days and indulgence days. Which, if that's what works for you - try JUDDD, you might love it.

My opinion, anyway.

Thanks! "magical power" I know, and get what you're saying. But, for me, the daily weighing helps me remember that EVERY DAY does matter. Just like you said. It's not the "almighty scale" but the reminder that if I don't watch it, that # will stick. True fat doesn't show up on the scale the next day, ITA!! But, when I'm off plan, overeating etc. if I don't weigh and ignore the scale, and don't reign it back in, I'll keep gaining and it WILL become real fat. I hope I don't do a CD lifestyle (they're not as helpful for me as clean eating anyway), but like naturally thin people do, doing a light day after a heavy day is key to successful lifetime maintenance. However you look at it- scale, Simeons, intuitive eating, hunger scale, etc-if you overdo it at 1 meal, day, you can "defeed", correct, lighten it up the next opportunity to stay stable. I think most successful plans have the same idea. You can't indulge at every meal, every day and expect to keep the weight off. You can have half a brownie, a few bites of dh's fries, etc. and maintain quite happily.

Originally Posted by Shrinking

I have to say everyone's help has been awesome! I was so worried about maintaining but have had success so far because I'm benefitting from all the experience on here. I work with a lady who laughs at anyone losing weight because she is convinced we all gain it back. I might as well tell you all I work in a Plus sized clothing store. We see many women who lose weight and many others who gain it all back. She is almost enough motivation to keep this weight off!!! I'd love nothing more than to prove a nasty know-it-all wrong! I took the job for the reason that I wanted nice clothes and a discount on new ones that fit me while losing weight. I no longer fit 98% of the clothes there. I think I will stick around a while longer just show that it will stay off. I mean it does work and she can't always assume if we don't see the ones who have lost weight anymore that they've left town, maybe they kept it off!!!

Ok that was a bit of a rant, sorry. I just get tired of the negativity. Half the girls I work with are trying HCG and I will help them succeed too. We can be the Shrinking team, haha!

Well I have managed to keep out of trouble going out to the movies with my family. I snacked on a couple of sugar free candies and two bottles of water. No popcorn!!! I'm at the correct weight still and owe it to all of you!

Thanks everyone!!

Woohoo!! It'd be so ironic to not be able to fit into any of the clothes you sell!! you'll need a new job!! I'd join Team Shrinking!! I'll bet you're quite an inspiration to those around you and your co-worker likely feels threatened by your success/ 95% of those who lose weight gain all or most of it back . It's a sad statistic, but we all understand how easy that would be to do! Maintenance is as much work as losing the weight. You can do it!! You're doing great and will continue to succeed as you stay in control!! Good for you!!

I'm finishing my packing, cleaning, preparation!! I'm still up today, but I'll LC and am sure it'll work back off. I did a GYCD yesterday and lost less than 2lbs. It just doesn't really work for me anymore (CDs I mean). I really only did it to use up my GY (and I love it). But, I'll stick w. clean LC today and suspect I'll be back to my normal "146" soon enough. Not sweating it, not a change in lifestyle. But balancing indulgence and healthy "normal" eating .

I'll be popping in when I can from Ca. I'm not bringing my laptop but will try to post from my phone. You know how that goes! Have a great week ladies! Keep the scale in perspective, make wise choices, and enjoy the ride (speaking to myself too!!) Happy Thanksgiving and take care of yourselves!

[buttah]

We are indeed saying the same thing, Julie.

Shrinking, congrats on your loss. They're not going to want you around in that store for long! As for what your coworker said, how incredibly rude of her to say it to someone who is working so hard on their issues - but we've all seen what she's talking about. Over the years (and the older I get, the more of them), we've known several obese people (and just overweight people) lose the weight only to gain it back. Men and women. It's disheartening, to say the least. It may have even been the subconscious reason I didn't really work on my weight until recently. ( I gained from pregnancies and just kind of stayed here... until now.)

But we've also known a couple who've kept it off. One is a woman who was morbidly obese, finally lost the weight for health reasons more than anything (it's weird how that takes center stage after 45-50), and she's been a normal weight for about 8 years now. I'd bet a million dollars she's done for good.

I really think it boils down to deep and permanent lifestyle changes, and that is the hardest part. For most, just too hard. But not for us!

[Reddy]

So for some reason I just can't seem to get it together. I keep saying I'll do a clean no carb day and somehow the carbs creep in. Why haven't I tossed out the halloween candy yet? It's awful for me. I even cracked a crown on a gobstopper!

Past 3 days I've been sitting at 2lbs OVER window which I do not like. That means i'm at 160 and I do NOT want to see that. I want to be in the 150's. SO today I will do everything in my power to stay on track, especially b/c I'm attending to girls nights this week which means drinks.

I don't get why it's so hard for me suddenly. It's amazing how slippery that slope really is. As soon as you start to fall, getting back on is always such a challenge. But at least I'm weighing and I'm aware of it before it gets totally out of control!

Right? Right. Hope you're all doing wonderful.

[buttah]

Hi Redd! Sorry you're struggling. If it helps at all, my clinic's advice on refined sugar (not carbs - there they have allowances) is:

"Sugar is just in moderation. We suggest avoiding it except for special occasions."

I have come to the realization that this is the only way to stay thin forever. And I'm fine with it. Special, planned (as far as the rest of the day with regard to carbs and calories) and in moderation on special occasions, or gain. The only exception that has worked for some is JUDDD, where many people seem to have desert on every single UD.

[shelbyla]

Originally Posted by Reddy

So for some reason I just can't seem to get it together. I keep saying I'll do a clean no carb day and somehow the carbs creep in. Why haven't I tossed out the halloween candy yet? It's awful for me. I even cracked a crown on a gobstopper!

Past 3 days I've been sitting at 2lbs OVER window which I do not like. That means i'm at 160 and I do NOT want to see that. I want to be in the 150's. SO today I will do everything in my power to stay on track, especially b/c I'm attending to girls nights this week which means drinks.

I don't get why it's so hard for me suddenly. It's amazing how slippery that slope really is. As soon as you start to fall, getting back on is always such a challenge. But at least I'm weighing and I'm aware of it before it gets totally out of control!

Right? Right. Hope you're all doing wonderful.

Reddy - you probably already know this, but refined sugars and flours are as addictive as heroin. Not to mention that they are absolutely horrible for blood sugars and general health. The more you have, the more you want, and the worse the cravings become if you don't have them. I KNOW how good they taste--they taste that way on purpose to keep us eating them! Throw OUT the candy and the chips and other stuff that tempts you. Stick to low carb, high fat for a bit. Eliminate all but the low GI fruits. If you need something sweet, make yourself a hot tea or a fake hot cocoa with a LOT of sweetener. Give yourself a couple of days to get the junk out of your system, and you'll feel so much better.

[julieboolie]

to Reddy and anyone else struggling!! Carbs are tough to work back into our healthier lives. For some reason my body does better w. sugar than starch nowadays. Choc., froyo, fruits and even a bit of custard/gelato work better for me than starches-baked goods, fries etc. Not sure why? But I'm happy w. it

Gotta' hit the road. Didn't sleep well, got up at 5! TOM is 4 days late just what I wanted to take along on vacation!! Scale up a bit, but btw. late TOM and early weighing not worried about it! Stressful day yesterday - packing, cleaning, running last minute insane errands for my self-absorbed mom!! And, the topper? My garage fridge died - which I discovered around 4:15PM yesterday - as I was rounding up the girls for their respective volleyball practices. Lost about $100 worth of GF frozen chicken nuggets, waffles and gogurts, etc!! My neighbor let me "borrow" her deep freezer for my pork roasts, turkey and cool whips (which seemed frozen enough to survive) but it was a fiasco of trying to get in through her garage w. the wrong code!! All is settled now, but I could have exploded from the stress yesterday evening!! I soooo need a vacation!!

All that to say, have a great week ladies. Enjoy your Thanksgiving celebrations and be diligent on the scale. Don't miss living life though. You've all worked so hard to be where you are. Stay focused, but enjoy yourselves too!!

Got the car 90% packed, showered, waiting for the rest of the fam to wake up. Tomorrow I'll be at the "Happiest Place on Earth" - Can't wait!!

[buttah]

Okay, for those who wanted it, here's what my clinic/doc provides in terms of P4 (which they call "maintenance") and starch guidelines. I think it underscores the fact that once we've lost pounds on HCG or any other WOE, there is never EVER going to be a starch free-for-all without consequences in our ability to maintain.

After this, the sheet gives a long and specific list of carb servings in chart form (so it's hard to cut and paste), but the 15 net grams (you can subtract fiber) pretty much tells you what you need to know. Note that carbs from non-starchy veggies are not included in the 15 net grams - that's just breads, pastas, crackers, corn, potatoes, yams, beans, etc.:

This three week phase gradually re-introduces starches and sugars into your diet. You will find your bread/ starch threshold in this phase. Be very mindful of the scale during this phase. This is where you’ll commit to remaining at your goal weight from now on. Anytime you go up two pounds, immediately do a steak day to bring you back to your goal weight (the weight you logged on the last day of hCG).

Once you start maintenance, please follow the following guidelines:

Week One - eat ONE bread/starch serving per day.
Week Two - eat TWO bread/starch servings per day.
Week Three - eat THREE bread/starch servings per day.

Post week three, pay close attention to how bread and starch servings are affecting your weight. You’ll explore whether you can push that serving number a bit higher with or without gaining weight. Some people can raise the starch/bread serving higher; others can’t budge or can only tolerate the 2-3 servings.

One serving of a starchy food contains about 15 grams of carbohydrate, up to 3 grams of protein, up to 1 gram of fat, and 80 calories. Starches in the amounts listed below equal one bread/starch (carbohydrate) exchange. Choose whole-grain and low-fat starches as often as you can.

General rule for starch foods:
• ½ cup of cereal, grain, pasta, or starchy vegetable is one serving
• 1 ounce of a bread product, such as 1 slice of bread, is one serving
• ¾ to 1 ounce of most snack foods is one serving (Some snack foods may also have added fat.)

[buttah]

Oh, and I'm still nicely in my window!

[LaraSuzz]

hi guys, didn't loose anything yesterday and I think I know what it was... gonna be more strict today and see if I can loose some lbs.

[LaraSuzz]

I just found a mini baby bell cheese in my desk from yesterday and I ate it, lol.

[shelbyla]

Inching back down the scale today from my weekend indulgences. A little over my adjusted window but there's that ring sliding around thing happening today so I should see something nice tomorrow on the scale. If not, I may do a cd--or I may not. I'm just happily cruising along right around where I want and need to be so it's all good. Hope all is well and Julie that your drive is going well!

[C'Marie]

***STRESSED OUT*** clients, life, deadlines.... be back later!

[Shrinking]

Originally Posted by shelbyla

Reddy - you probably already know this, but refined sugars and flours are as addictive as heroin. Not to mention that they are absolutely horrible for blood sugars and general health. The more you have, the more you want, and the worse the cravings become if you don't have them. I KNOW how good they taste--they taste that way on purpose to keep us eating them! Throw OUT the candy and the chips and other stuff that tempts you. Stick to low carb, high fat for a bit. Eliminate all but the low GI fruits. If you need something sweet, make yourself a hot tea or a fake hot cocoa with a LOT of sweetener. Give yourself a couple of days to get the junk out of your system, and you'll feel so much better.

Soooooo true! Heroin! Once you start it's so hard to stop! It's just easier for some of us (me) to stay away!! (BTW this is my first attempt at a quote! Love so many things you girls say and now I'm showing my appreciation)

[Shrinking]

Nice to hear about the losses and stay strong through the setbacks!

I had a great day today. Met up with a friend from out of town for coffee ( she had a donut and i had my black/decaf) and another I hadn't seen in a while.

I've not seen a whole lot of movement on the scale and feel like any day now the joke will be on me and it will begin climbing. I'm so used to my weight fluctuating by 5lbs/day before hcg that this staying the same is just weird! I know it's supposed to do that, but all the same, it's weird!

C'Marie! Don't be stressed!!! Go shopping! Retail therapy is the best!!!

Buttah! Thank you very much for that info on P4. I think I'm going to be ready for it next week, or is that this week? I should check, LOL! I have to admit the idea of adding starches gives me a tiny bit of panic! I will be very, very careful.

[LaraSuzz]

I'm so proud of all of you and how you're really doing well on this WOE. You guys get me and I'm thankful.

I'm down 3ish from my low carb day, whoohooo. It's payday too!!! Life is good.

Lara

[Shrinking]

YAY Lara! WHOOHOO!! Awesome! Great job. Keep posting those menus so we all can benefit from your hard work

[dawnyama]

Originally Posted by C'Marie

***STRESSED OUT*** clients, life, deadlines.... be back later!

[cocoapeanut]

Yep, it totally is like heroin. I indulged during my two-day company off-site on Monday and Tuesday and felt the cravings and calls for more! I would have SO eaten the whole tray of brownies (but I didn't). Coming down from that is a bit of a doozy but I'm doing it. I'm totally motivated by the fact that I feel like I'm coming out of my clothes..hate that

During the off-site, I also discovered that I am in fact sensitive to gluten..though the intensity of the effects depends on the amount I consume. I ate probably the same amount of it as everyone else and was sleepy, bloated and gassy, stomach hurting, a little nauseous, etc. When I ate more of it I felt like I had allergies (itchy eyes, a little sniffly, pressure headache)! And I definitely don't have that happen when I eat rice or potatoes, even if it's a lot. It's so weird to me because I've eaten it for most of my life but now it's like I can't eat it anymore unless it's like one small thing.. Don't know whether to feel happy or sad? Maybe just neutral.

So I promised myself to be primarily gluten free and mostly sugar free from now on, because Monday and Tuesday night's suffering was SO not worth it!! And sugar-free definitely does not include SF Oreos, because I threw that in out of curiosity (never really had maltitol before) on Tuesday night and dearly paid for it all night..lol. Maltitol, wheat, probably corn syrup, other random chemicals...I feel like I'm getting over a cold or something. Experiments..sheesh!

Haven't weighed but really want to feel like myself again, so am low-carb/FFing my way back down. I'll get there!

And that's my crazy check in. So glad that many of you are doing so well! And for those of you that aren't:

[buttah]

I'm in my window with over a pound to spare. This is getting boring. Good boring.

[dawnyama]

Originally Posted by cocoapeanut

Yep, it totally is like heroin. I indulged during my two-day company off-site on Monday and Tuesday and felt the cravings and calls for more! I would have SO eaten the whole tray of brownies (but I didn't). Coming down from that is a bit of a doozy but I'm doing it. I'm totally motivated by the fact that I feel like I'm coming out of my clothes..hate that

During the off-site, I also discovered that I am in fact sensitive to gluten..though the intensity of the effects depends on the amount I consume. I ate probably the same amount of it as everyone else and was sleepy, bloated and gassy, stomach hurting, a little nauseous, etc. When I ate more of it I felt like I had allergies (itchy eyes, a little sniffly, pressure headache)! And I definitely don't have that happen when I eat rice or potatoes, even if it's a lot. It's so weird to me because I've eaten it for most of my life but now it's like I can't eat it anymore unless it's like one small thing.. Don't know whether to feel happy or sad? Maybe just neutral.

So I promised myself to be primarily gluten free and mostly sugar free from now on, because Monday and Tuesday night's suffering was SO not worth it!! And sugar-free definitely does not include SF Oreos, because I threw that in out of curiosity (never really had maltitol before) on Tuesday night and dearly paid for it all night..lol. Maltitol, wheat, probably corn syrup, other random chemicals...I feel like I'm getting over a cold or something. Experiments..sheesh!

Haven't weighed but really want to feel like myself again, so am low-carb/FFing my way back down. I'll get there!

And that's my crazy check in. So glad that many of you are doing so well! And for those of you that aren't:

I loved that pic of you and Shelby. Looks like you had fun What a way to find out you are gluten sensitive. Definitely not fun Feel better soon. I want to hear your FF menus, if you don't mind. I am still interested in that WOE! Oh, heck with it.....I just love food