November/12 Phase2: Right Frame Of Mind! All are Welcome!

[tarheelkris]

Hey! I am on VLCD day 2 and I have some questions, if you guys don't mind. I did my first round with injections from my doctor. I am using the Intermountain hHCG for this round. The bottle instructs to take 3 pellets three times a day. I was just curious if anyone else is using the pellets and what dosage they take. I am pretty hungry in comparison to how I felt with the injections. I was at 135.4 pre-load and this morning I was 137.4. I didn't weigh after loading, I was scared of the number that would flash on the scale.

[sinderstorm]

After loading the last 2 days, I'm on R1VLCD1, even 230lbs this morning, and so far am feeling pretty good. Got a bit queasy this morning, drank a big glass of water, and that helped quite a bit. Doing baked tilapia for lunch, and 'taco salad' for dinner tonight.

Quick question: Can I use crystal light? I'm assuming not, but it would be nice to be able to flavor my water with it.

[shelbyla]

Originally Posted by tarheelkris

I am using the Intermountain hHCG for this round...3 pellets three times a day. I was just curious if anyone else is using the pellets and what dosage they take. I am pretty hungry in comparison to how I felt with the injections.

The advice I usually give people is to skip their evening dose of pellets or drops. If you wake up LESS hungry, go to 3/2/3. If you wake up MORE hungry. go to 4/3/3 or 4/3/4. More is usually worse than less with homeopathics but YMMV I did 4 pellets first round but the second round I had to dial it back a few pellets.

Originally Posted by sinderstorm

Can I use crystal light?

Crystal Light is aspartame which isn't technically on the approved list but try it and see. If you stall, that would be the first thing I would drop.

[sexymama]

Here's my update:

VLCD#4 and down to 161.6 from 165. Yay!!

Looking forward to moving to the 50's soon

[Jeanyyy]

Hi everyone!!

I'm on my first "elimination" day (not sure if we all use the same terminology - but I mean the 2-3 VLC days without drops).

The drops I'm using are Omni, and they give conflicting info about whether it is 2 days or 3, so I have decided I'll go by how hungry I am on Friday, which would be the 2 days/48 hour point. If I find I'm hungry, I'll assume the hhcg is out of my system. If not, I'll go another day at 500ish cals.

Actually, I'm a bit rogue in the sense that I have some variation of HWC/CO/butter in my coffee, so I'm probably over 500 most of the time already. I've still lost 20ish lbs in 40 days so not worried. But I want to keep them off until my next round

[sweetlady2k]

R1p2d11 173.7 down 12.7 lbs in 11 days! Doing very well so far! Just wanted to say about the water, I have noticed it really hinders the weight loss on the days I don't drink enough. I had a 2 lb gain at the beginning of the week from having no water on my day off on Sunday I just had diet pepsi and crystal light. Normally during the work week I've been drinking 2-3 lliters of water and maybe 3 diet pepsi's. So I know that was the only difference on Sunday. The next day the gain was gone but I kindof feel like a lost a day. So ladies drink your water!

[pandora174]

Morning ! up .08 to 132.4. I really hate tom but at least my moodiness has slightly decreased & it'll be over soon. I want it gone gone along with the 1.2 lbs it brought along so I can go back to losing.

Baking sweet potato pies tonight for work tomorrow Oh well not tempted since I want to stay POP so bad so I can finish this round already !

[sinderstorm]

Good morning! R1P2VLCD2 weigh in this morning was 227! So down 3lbs from yesterday! I'm sure some is water weight, but it was a great motivator to tell me that I CAN do this, and to have another clean day.

Coffee is brewing now. Then I'm going to pack up the girls and take them to the gym so they can play in the child care, and I can go soak up some steam in their steam room.

[tarheelkris]

I am on day three of VCLD and I haven't lost one ounce, still at 137.4!!! I am so discouraged! I am going to post what I ate yesterday so I can get you guys' input.

Coffee with Stevia
Lobster tail with tomatoes
Ground beef with celery
1 cup strawberries

I had a total of 427 calories yesterday and I am a basketball coach so I was running around with my team as well. I also drank 12 glasses of water. I lost so great with my first round using injections, particularly the first week. Has anyone else had a slow start to losing with the pellets?

[pandora174]

tarheelkris I have 2 thoughts that pop up immediately; did you load & for how long ? My first round I had been on a vlcd diet for 4 months so I loaded for 4 days. Also is tom coming or near ? I have gained or stalled before tom comes in. If that's not the case is the ground beef lean ? For me my first round every single time I had lean ground beef with tomatos I would gain & stall for 2 days. Some people can have red meat every day & lose some others like myself can not. Strange because when I go to P3 I stabilize wonderfully on meat everyday.

My 2nd & 3rd round I haven't done red meat because of this. I am senstive in P2 to tomatoes and only do it 1x per week or not at all.

I don't do the pellets so I can't help you there I do the Intermountain drops. Maybe others have more input. I know it can be frustrating when you are protocol & don't see the results immediately.

[Felina]

Tarheelkris, I don't take the IM pellets, but so many on this board do. I hope you get some feedback soon. From what I read from the others that use them IMO they are one of the best hhcg options. Others have lost real well without hunger on them.

[Felina]

It only took three days to lose the eight lbs I gained from my 12 day break (Vegas & family anniversary party)!!! Thank you hcg

[Jeanyyy]

Hi everyone! Well, day 2 of "E" is almost over - still have to have supper but I can honestly say, still no hunger.... so I figure the hhcg is still in my system. I'll see how tomorrow goes and may give it the full 72 hours before moving into P3. Wish me luck!

[Healthy4ever]

Hi ladies, great coaching in here! You guys are doing great!

I'm leaving tomorrow for the holidays and will be back after Thanksgiving weekend!

Down to 172.4 this morning! Yeah! Yeah!!! I'm so happy!

tarheelkris, don't be frustrated ... it ccould be only water retention. Drink more water and you'll have a big woosh pretty soon!

Also, I drink San Pellegrino water with a few drops of Stevia. I have different flavors, lemon, orange, chocolate, berries, vanilla, and other flavors I can't remember now. I pour it in a very nice crystal glass and I feel as if I'm drinking a very expensive drink

Jeanyyy, you're doing great! And I'm sure you'll keep the weight off!

I'll go on maintenance when I get down to 165.0 And then will go back on a second round at the beginning of the year.

Pandora, I'm so proud of you for resisting temptation! Hang in there, and after TOM leaves town, you'll have a huge woosh, you'll see! 120s is so close for you!

Waving a hello to all the other girls!

Wishing you all a very Happy Thanksgiving and I'm very, very grateful we've found each other and HCG! We'll be Healthy forever!

Love you all!

~Angie

[sweetlady2k]

R1p2vlcd12 weighed 172.6 down 1.1lbs wow I cant believe 160's are right around the corner!

[pandora174]

Morning everyone ! P2R3D43 & down -.04 to 132.0 TOM is still hanging around but I should be done with it in a day or 2. I depise TOM while on P2, it has set me back 1 week in losses Can't wait for the weekend.

Nothing is more frustrating that being on P2 and sticking to protocol & not losing ! Oh well here's to a nice whoosh which I am happily anticipating when this tom leaves so I can get back to the business of losing ! And happily I resisted all temptation & no pie for me other than a lick of the spoon to make sure it tasted fine before I popped them in the oven. Or actually I touched my tongue to the spoon and my son was like "really Mom you can't even lick the spoon on yiur diet ?

Happy Friday

[tarheelkris]

Thank you guys so much for the support! I am down 2.2 this morning to 135.2. I am pretty happy about it!!

[pandora174]

congrats tarheelkris !!

[timsbeloved]

Down .4 today bringing me to 190.8. My losses have really slowed. Oh, I can feel the 180's. Well, I am going rogue for the first time in all 4 of my HCG rounds. I have been an extremely strict protocal girl, but I am doing a FF today to try to move this a long a bit more quickly before my round ends for Thanksgiving and vacation. I hope this works.

Pandora - I feel your pain. I am sure the scales will treat you kindly after TOM leaves. Great job sticking to your guns on the sweets. You are more woman than me;-) I try to stay out of the kitchen while on P2.

Tarheelkris - What a great loss! You will reach your goal in no time.

Sweetlady - Super release. The 160's are just around the scale for you. Amazing! Reaching those milestones are such an encouragement.

Jeanyyy - What is your total loss for this round? I will be heading into P3 with you pretty soon. Blessings!

Healthy Forever - Have a great Thanksgiving. Remember to drink plenty of water. That is something I really have to stay on top of when I travel.

[Jeanyyy]

Down 0.3 lbs today for a total of 20.9 lbs as of R1P2D44. It couldn't be 21 lbs, eh?

Woke up really late today, a "work at home" day ... so I RUSHED down to my office and work laptop feeling awful/queasy due to the rushing, I think. Still not feeling any hunger, so this may end up being Elimination day 3. I just don't want to change anything while tummy is upset, KWIM?

[pandora174]

timsbeloved I feel you. I've always been a protocol kind of gal. For me a cheat is having a Coke Zero every once in awhile as a special treat but I've been reading that FF thread & wondering

I have 2 more weeks to go & I've told myself 1 more week if I can see movement into the 120's OK "but" if I'm still playing with 131/130 I swear I'm going to get some macadamia nuts & HWC & do a FF for 2 or 3 days I think my tom has my mood all over the place. I'll be checking to see how your FF went ! Keep us posted please

[shelbyla]

Originally Posted by Healthy4ever

I'll go on maintenance when I get down to 165.0 And then will go back on a second round at the beginning of the year.

Happy Thanksgiving Angie! Remember that after your round, you need to go thru 3 weeks of P3 and 3 weeks of P4 to stay true to protocol. If you choose to cycle, it's a bit rogue and has had mixed results that I have seen on the board and IRL over the last two years.

[sinderstorm]

R1VLCD2- down another 2lbs this morning. My MIL is in town, so we ran around with the kids this morning doing some shopping, and this is my first time checking in today. Made it through another clean day yesterday, and am through lunch today, with plans of taco salad for everyone tonight, so I should be able to stay POP while MIL is here. DH works all weekend, so I'm enjoying her help and the freedom of having a 1:1 adult to toddler ratio, with the added bonus of some crafting time when she's hanging out with the girls.

[MOMMYONAMISSION]

@timsbeloved I saw that thread, it looks pretty interesting. So you take your hcg while you eat the 1000 calories and up the fat? I'm nine pounds away from my goal on this round. And on vlcd day 38. I hope the scale moves for you

[timsbeloved]

Originally Posted by MOMMYONAMISSION

@timsbeloved I saw that thread, it looks pretty interesting. So you take your hcg while you eat the 1000 calories and up the fat? I'm nine pounds away from my goal on this round. And on vlcd day 38. I hope the scale moves for you

MOMMY - Yes, I am still taking the hcg while doing the FF. I will see what the scale says in the morning and decide what I will do from there. Today was a breeze with all that amazing fat. I felt so much better.

[keepingcupsfull]

Checking in ....nice losses this week for some of you.

I'm with Pandora and tom is causing me to stall and be miserable. In all my rounds I have done I have never had a cycle as heavy and cramps as bad as this. I have never stopped hhcg during Tom in the past, if the pain and flow continue today I will stop . Just to get it over with or at least I hope that will help. My weight has STS since Sunday. Weird I do feel smaller and am not bloated. Hmmm. Anyone else ever have this with tom?


Spending the day with Mom doing some bucket list items, so it will be an emotional day. Tom is not helping.

I will check on later.

Bee

[tarheelkris]

So no loss again today. I am mystified. I thought on the pellets the best loss was during the first week. I am VCLD day 5 and I have only had one day with a loss. I am essentially two ounces less than my pre load weight. I am weak and starving. Any chance I got a bad bottle?

[sweetlady2k]

R1p2vlcd13 171.4. -1.2 for the day and -15 lbs even in 13 days on HCG! I think the appetite suppression on this is amazing! And when I am hungry its mild, not enough to make me cheat and I really do enjoy the food most of the time. It seems more like I am eating to fuel my body instead of for pleasure.

[pandora174]

P2R3D44 & down -1.0 to 131.0 TOM is finally gone ! Left me -.04 from my last day of loss, so 5 days wasted Ok over that & now for my news I fit into SIZE 4 PANTS !!!! Yes I bought size 4 pants & size Small shirts are roomy

Ok now that's out of the way. Small vent. I am over diet haters. As I was losing but still overweight or chunky people were super supportive. BUT once I got into thin or thinner than some people I am getting the "please stop already" "are you done" "you're eating right ?" or worse people talking behind my back about how thin I am or if I'm going to get an eating disorder or how they can see how thin my hands look It's not like I'm 110 lbs for pete's sake. I brush it off and I haven't felt this good about myself in years but I am over the snide comments from co workers, family & friends...I'm trying for it not to put a damper on this wonderful time in my life !

[Felina]

Pandora, SIZE 4!!!!

My stomach is still a little big, plus extra skin, so even though my butt and legs can fit in a smaller size pant, I just can't get past the 12's yet. Pooh.

Tarheelkris, so sorry that your round isn't going so well. I had one round where I didn't lose anything but my loading weight. I was using injectable Rxhcg. I decided to stop it at the minimum 23 days because I didn't see the sense in continuing. I am convinced that I either had a bad batch of hcg, (because i was hungry too) or I became immune. I say that because since then, my current round is going well. Currently I'm on homeopathic and I have no hunger and losses are good.

If it were me, I would stick it out for the minimum 23 days. You might be at a setpoint and these can be tough to get over.

It's weird how for three weeks I couldn't lose with the bad batch of hcg even though I ate around 300 calories a day, but with hcg, I lose we'll. Even off hcg, I normally eat an average of 900 cals a day and can't lose. I'm probably in starvation mode, but when I take hcg, it prevents the starvation mode from kicking in and I actually lose. Hang in there.