P3~P4 SIMEONS PROTOCOL OCTOBER 2012

[Shrinking]

Oh yeah forgot. C'Marie you slept! YAY!!!!!!

[tarheelkris]

Thank you guys very much for your response.....now I have another question. When I was taking the Rx HCG I had to go to my doctor's office once a week for weigh-in and a B12 shot. I could really tell the last couple of days before my shot that I was ready for it. With the hhcg did you feel weak and/or did you take supplemental B12? Sorry to have so many questions.

[JKat]

Hi everyone...I just watched the Dr. OZ show from the other day about carb cycling. It was really informative and intersesting. I have in way done similiar plans in the past with success and think I may try it for moving into P4. His name is Chris Powell.

What I am most concerned about is moving into P4 without any guidlines. I really need some sort of bounderies or I kinda go off the deep end.

???? I have 10more pounds I would like to loose. It is okay to start losing again right?? My plan was to do another round of hcg in Jan after the holidays. I wanted to maintain till then but with the carb cycling plan I think its really doable. It sounds like what a "normal "person does to maintain weight. Indulge then back off.

Like I said I know myself and I need guidlines or I will have trouble.

Just wondering what others thought. I know you guys where talking about it a couple days ago.

[dazygyrl]

Originally Posted by shelbyla

Hi guys!

I've been so busy at work and out of touch that I even had enough threads to read to get me through 30 minutes on the treadclimber this morning. In addition, 70 situps (hard ones! I've been getting lazy!) and 20 pushups. That's 4 days this week with two days of rowing/weights and two days of treadclimber/calisthenics. So back into the swing of things, exercise-wise. I don't really enjoy it but I never feel WORSE after I do it, I always feel better, so that's something at least...if only for the non-guilt factor!

My weight stayed about the same this morning--up 0.3 from yesterday--which I'm calling right around the same. So here's some philosophical pondering for y'all. It's Friday--why not??? I am really coming to believe that I weigh 1-2 pounds more at my weekday crack-o-dawn getting up time (4:30-4:45am) than I do when I sleep in slightly on the weekends (7:30-8am). I consistently weigh 143-145 during the week and my sleep-in day (usually Saturday) weigh-in is consistently 141-143. I've been thinking about it as my weekly "whoosh." This phenomenon is kind of odd to me but I think this idea may help with my discomfort at being "out of my window." Here's what I mean...

So almost every round, including my last, my LID falls on a weekend or a day when I am able to sleep in and I usually have a good sized drop on LIW. The end of this round was no different. This time, LIW was 140.6, giving me an upper limit of 142.6 to remain "in my window." BUT...what if I had weighed for LIW at that ugly ugly hour when I normally get up? I am betting my "LIW" would have been about 2 pounds higher, for a LIW of 142.6 and an upper limit of 144.6. And where have I been sitting, as an average during P3 and P4? Average weights as of this morning, was 143.7, certainly outside of my regular window but well within my "adjusted for weighing super early window." I think I am going to give myself 2 LIW's--one for weights on the weekend (call it 143 as an upper limit) and one for weights during the week (145). I am going to roll with that and look for anything outside THOSE weights as cd-worthy. Anyway, just thinking/typing out loud...

Have a fantastic weekend everyone...

i just experienced this this morning, too. i normally weigh at 5:30am. being it's saturday i wanted to sleep in, but had to goto the bathroom at 5:30. i was down .6 from yesterday. at 8am when i got up i was down another pound, so a total of 1.6 down from yesterday. why do you suppose this is? i won't count the extra pound down, tho, just the 5:30 weight.

[junkn]

Originally Posted by tarheelkris

Thank you guys very much for your response.....now I have another question. When I was taking the Rx HCG I had to go to my doctor's office once a week for weigh-in and a B12 shot. I could really tell the last couple of days before my shot that I was ready for it. With the hhcg did you feel weak and/or did you take supplemental B12? Sorry to have so many questions.

you may get more responses in this thread: P2 Simeons Protocol week of 10/29

thats the P2 thread for people in P2 and so they are in the same boat as you are

when i first started hhcg- i felt kind of like i had morning sickness for the first week or so. but it went away and i felt fine. not weak at all. i also started taking vitamins when i started hhcg.

[junkn]

well i am in R1P3D4 (stopped the hhcg 6 days ago) and am 1.5 pounds beneath my LDW. i'm not sure how this is possible since i have been eating almost 3x the amount of calories from when i was on hhcg.

do you think its because i no longer have hhcg in my system and so its not releasing the 1500 or so calories anymore?

my BMR says 1092 calories a day. my goal is 1200 but i've been eating 1400 or so. i've also been eating higher fats. coconut oil, almond butter, bp coffees with my meals.

when you do higher fat- are you supposed to eat more calories?

[tarheelkris]

I'm actually in my second week of P4, I just want to be prepared and informed for my next round. Some might call me OCD, I prefer "organized". hehehe

[julieboolie]

First-woohoo for posts to read and enjoy!! Love that our thread is getting busier again!!

Originally Posted by Shrinking

Julie I completely agree with Buttah, you are a superhero!! I can't believe how far you've come with your posted stats. You've inspired me to believe I can attain more than I thought I could. I've told all the girls at work about what you've accomplished( they don't criticize hcg). I don't believe you won't recover from your holiday.
I'll give you an experience I had. Back in the day between child number 2 and 3 I managed to lose my pregnancy weight. I had been following closely Suzanne Somers' food combining. My weight loss was in fits and starts but not going as consistently as I would have hoped. I went on vacation with hubby and left our then 2 kids home with grandparents. I decided that Hawaii was an awesome place to be if everything went sideways during Y2K!!! Anyways...we were gone 2 weeks and I mostly followed my plan with the added drinks, ice cream(daily) and a few other treats. I drank lots of water, walked some but I cheated. In the end I came back from that vacation 20lbs lighter!!! I had to find a Ross a week in to get a new bathing suit because mine fell off in the ocean!! So there is a point to all of this. Earlier in this discussion someone (I forget who, sorry!) mentioned carb cycling. When I look back, that is technically what I did on my vacation. It actually jump started my weight loss. You may find that staying LC with a few cheats will keep you where you need to be? Regardless, you do need to enjoy your vacation and rest up. Maybe things will just fall into place if you just do your best!!
During my one round of hcg drops I did manage to lose weight and I ate at McDonalds once a week!! That should inspire you somewhat!!! LOL!!!

Awww, so sweet!! Thank you. That makes me feel great!! I tend to forget my past sometimes. I get all myopic about this last few lbs!! Love your vacation story!! That gives me lots of hope!! I am going to look into the carbcycling. It sounds like a practical way to live. I plan to enjoy my vacation (hopefully not TOO much ) and we'll see what happens when I get home. I'll be rolling right into the Christmas season with all it's parties and such, but shoudl have a week or 2 to correct, if necessary. Thanks for your sweet words and encouragement!! Hope you have a great weekend!

Originally Posted by JKat

Hi everyone...I just watched the Dr. OZ show from the other day about carb cycling. It was really informative and intersesting. I have in way done similiar plans in the past with success and think I may try it for moving into P4. His name is Chris Powell.

What I am most concerned about is moving into P4 without any guidlines. I really need some sort of bounderies or I kinda go off the deep end.

???? I have 10more pounds I would like to loose. It is okay to start losing again right?? My plan was to do another round of hcg in Jan after the holidays. I wanted to maintain till then but with the carb cycling plan I think its really doable. It sounds like what a "normal "person does to maintain weight. Indulge then back off.

Like I said I know myself and I need guidlines or I will have trouble.

Just wondering what others thought. I know you guys where talking about it a couple days ago.

I'm kinda' w. you. I can follow a plan (Atkins, hcg, etc) but tend to fear freedom. I'm going to look into the carb cycling. I've been LC for the majority if the past 10 years. Not sure if my body will ever accept carbs w.o. a gain. But, I'm willing to try . Yes, it's ok to start losing in P4. I'd love to do just that . Hope it goes well for you. Please come share with us what you learn .

Originally Posted by junkn

well i am in R1P3D4 (stopped the hhcg 6 days ago) and am 1.5 pounds beneath my LDW. i'm not sure how this is possible since i have been eating almost 3x the amount of calories from when i was on hhcg.

do you think its because i no longer have hhcg in my system and so its not releasing the 1500 or so calories anymore?

my BMR says 1092 calories a day. my goal is 1200 but i've been eating 1400 or so. i've also been eating higher fats. coconut oil, almond butter, bp coffees with my meals.

when you do higher fat- are you supposed to eat more calories?

You're like the magic hcg girl!! Able to stay on forever, lose tons of weight and maintain below LDW w. higher cals than you planned? I'm in awe!! WTG!!! Niec job!! Enjoy it. And, I think the high fat works great!!

Originally Posted by dawnyama

Shelby--I know exactly what you are talking about. I weigh in at 4:45 AM on the weekdays and then on the weekends, 7:30AM. I always weigh in lower on the weekends due to the later weigh in time. Knowing that has helped some, although not a lot, during the week. I am waaay over, and way out of, my window today. I had TOM arrive yesterday and am doing some sort of a CD today. I am not hungry so have not eaten anything all day. Don't know what to eat for dinner, but might just not eat if I don't feel like it. I usually eat everything (and want to eat a house!!) the day before TOM and the first day of TOM want to eat nothing. So taking advantage of my lack of appetite and will see where it gets me tomorrow on that lovely weigh in day called Saturday!!

Have a great weekend!!!!

It's kinda' nice to weigh less on the weekends. That's my hard time . Hope you're well w.i. your window and able to enjoy yourself this weekend.

Originally Posted by C'Marie

I slept last night. Hallelujah! I have schoolwork due tonight, so I've been reading but not posting much. Nice discussions here, wish I had time to jump in.

YAY!! Must feel grea!! hope that's the beginning of a pattern!!

Originally Posted by buttah

Julie, I have every faith in you that you'll figure it out one way or another. The good news is that you do know how to lose weight, so if you do any experiment where, say, you try to maintain a couple pounds higher - if it turns out to be just as hard as maintaining a couple pounds lower... you'll be able to repair the damage and throw that theory out. What you've already accomplished is mind boggling. You (and many others here) are like a superhero to me.

JUDDD was really wonderful for me in that it taught me to be used to scale ups and downs, as well as "eating ups and downs."

But I'm no expert, that's for sure. So far I've "maintained" reasonably well half way through this journey, and again, now for two and half weeks. That ain't much!

However, as for travel and eating out, I have a life where this is the norm. If I'm not at home in my office trying to be creative for a living (it's own food temptation nightmare with the fridge down the hall and nobody watching), I'm frequently traveling or someplace where, trust me, all day temptations abound. And even when I'm home, I'm having "business" lunches and dinners literally multiple times a week. (This was the hardest part of HCG protocol for me - I was a hermit). I've literally HAD to make that work for me, and in general, I do. I could give you long lists of where I go and what I order and/or don't order, how I plan the rest of the day around the most potentially dangerous part of the day, etc... It IS REALLY HARD, but it is doable. If I can do it, anyone can.

And yes, I'm the one who doesn't gain on a cruise. Nor a vacation. Not since my twenties. Like I said, it's "normal" times that bad habits creep up on me.

You've done a great job w. that type of lifestyle. That must be hard!! But you are a smart and determined lady. I'm not surprised at your success. You are doing great. This groundwork you're layihg for yourself it so important. You're teaching your body to stay here. Even if someday down the road you have a regain your body should "remember" this place and stop here . You're right. If I do end up gainign a bit I do know how to lose it again. I think I need to find a balance between taking maintenance seriously and not being afraid to gain if I experiment a bit. I'm just tired of always trying to lose weight and working at it constantly. I'd love to be able to relax and just stay here.

I'm happy to report I'm back in my window! Depending on which weight I take, 145 or 145.2. Woohoo!! 145.2 is the top of my window. First time I'm back in in weeks . Now, to stick it!! I am loving the low fat, low carb and lower protein. It's working well, keeping me satisfied and happy. I felt a bit nauseous the first day (egg day) and am feeling better now. Going to stay strong and careful today. Maybe I'll up carbs a bit this week if I can stay in window for a few days. So relieved!!

Happy Saturday. Got vball practice for dd(12) then a game for dd(9) then my neice's bday party this afternoon. Should be a busy and fun day. Hopefully it'll keep me busy enough that food loses it's appeal .

[julieboolie]

Originally Posted by tarheelkris

Thank you guys very much for your response.....now I have another question. When I was taking the Rx HCG I had to go to my doctor's office once a week for weigh-in and a B12 shot. I could really tell the last couple of days before my shot that I was ready for it. With the hhcg did you feel weak and/or did you take supplemental B12? Sorry to have so many questions.

The pellets have additional B vits and aminos in them and I felt great on them (compared with the drops). HTH!

[julieboolie]

Carrie!!

[dazygyrl]

hi, julie.

[junkn]

julie- i love your posts! your always so sweet and encouraging

[buttah]

I woke up below LDW as I finish my last days of P3. Thank you HCG. Thank you everyone for all the knowledge, advice and support. I'm just so thrilled.

I've been weighing trying the homeopathic for my "goal round," but the ease of stabilization thus far (despite lower losses than many during protocol, especially in my second 3 weeks) has me not wanting to change ANYTHING for the next time.

I just wish I could start NOW. But I won't.

Julie, so happy you're back down!!! WTG!

[dawnyama]

Originally Posted by JKat

Hi everyone...I just watched the Dr. OZ show from the other day about carb cycling. It was really informative and intersesting. I have in way done similiar plans in the past with success and think I may try it for moving into P4. His name is Chris Powell.

What I am most concerned about is moving into P4 without any guidlines. I really need some sort of bounderies or I kinda go off the deep end.

???? I have 10more pounds I would like to loose. It is okay to start losing again right?? My plan was to do another round of hcg in Jan after the holidays. I wanted to maintain till then but with the carb cycling plan I think its really doable. It sounds like what a "normal "person does to maintain weight. Indulge then back off.

Like I said I know myself and I need guidlines or I will have trouble.

Just wondering what others thought. I know you guys where talking about it a couple days ago.

Thank you The only reason I remember his first name is because one of my 3 sons is named Chris I am also going to do either JUDDD, or maybe the carb cycling. I have to investigate the carb cycling thing because I couldn't watch Dr Oz (I saw the beginning, but had to leave because my kids had piano lessons). I will see if it fits with what I want to do. I am planning, if need be a new round after the holidays. That does not give me license to eat what I want between now and then Just going to try and do my best on the plan I chose and see how it goes. If I need hcg, it is there. I have stocked up But yes, if I dont' have a plan I fail. Now I have a plan

[julieboolie]

Originally Posted by junkn

julie- i love your posts! your always so sweet and encouraging

Thanks! you're so sweet!!

Buttah-below LDW? WTG!!

Dawn-you'll be successful with this! JUDDD worked well for you before, maybe a nice maintenance plan?

[dawnyama]

Originally Posted by julieboolie

Thanks! you're so sweet!!

Buttah-below LDW? WTG!!

Dawn-you'll be successful with this! JUDDD worked well for you before, maybe a nice maintenance plan?

Well, not sure what is up. I ate to hunger yesterday, meaning I skipped dinner totally and while not out of the window today, am at my limit. I cannot seem to be getting out of doing every other day CDs. I am finally in P4 and have NOT even experimented with P3 goodies, let alone P4 ones and have needed to correct it seems like every day. I am using the hunger scale and it seems to be backfiring on me. I am using high fat and it isn't working either. I am doing what I "think" is right and it is all wrong with my body. I guess my body is just not with it. How frustrating this is. I am 123 today and won't be doing a CD, but will be careful with my choices.....as I have been this entire 3+ weeks of P3 I know a future round of hcg is in my future. Just waiting til January. I do NOT like being this high on the scale. I wanted to be 120, and now that is not even in the cards for me. UGH!!!!

[julieboolie]

Originally Posted by dawnyama

Well, not sure what is up. I ate to hunger yesterday, meaning I skipped dinner totally and while not out of the window today, am at my limit. I cannot seem to be getting out of doing every other day CDs. I am finally in P4 and have NOT even experimented with P3 goodies, let alone P4 ones and have needed to correct it seems like every day. I am using the hunger scale and it seems to be backfiring on me. I am using high fat and it isn't working either. I am doing what I "think" is right and it is all wrong with my body. I guess my body is just not with it. How frustrating this is. I am 123 today and won't be doing a CD, but will be careful with my choices.....as I have been this entire 3+ weeks of P3 I know a future round of hcg is in my future. Just waiting til January. I do NOT like being this high on the scale. I wanted to be 120, and now that is not even in the cards for me. UGH!!!!

That stinks!!! If it's any comfort, I'm right there with you. I'm still experimenting with some ratios etc., and w. you on the hunger thing (guessing I'm still eating too much there, but can't be sure). It's very frustrating!! Take it a day at a time. Once you're home and into a new routine you may find it more easy to stabilize. But I SO get the disappointment of not even being able to dabble in P3 goodies!! Me too!!

I had a nice Italian chopped salad out last night, and it's all low carb and high fat, moderate protein-right in line w. my plan. I think maybe it's just bulk, but I'm up 1.2lbs today!! . Sigh. That day in window sure was nice!! Seems unless I do really high fat and low carb and protein I am up. That's not a plan for life I don't think. I hope it's just roughage which will work it's way out , but am not going to rely on that hope. I'm going to keep it clean and LC, high fat, and mid protein again today, and avoid veggies. I'd love to get closer to LDW so I have more room to experiment w. foods that may be triggers or sensitive for me. But I can't seem to get low enough, or stable enough, to dabble. Sigh.

Keeping on, keeping on. Hope the rest of you are all doing well!!

[dazygyrl]

dawn & julie...i know you are more protocol gals, but have you considered giving yourself a 5 lb window? to me, 2 lbs seems way to unattainable. julie you know that uptick is more than likely bulk like you said...with a bigger window, there be more room for those things.

just a thought....

[dawnyama]

Carrie--I do think of that !! That is why I want to get to 115 on hcg. So that my 5 lb window gets me to where I would like to end up. I want to be 120 and if that 5 lb window is more true life then I have to lower my goal. I just could not do P2 any longer. I hate P2 with a passion now. That is what happens when you do it too much! I do NOT want my upper limit to be 125--I cannot fit into some of my jeans at that weight. But I will do hcg once again after the holidays when there are plenty of people doing it too. Care to join me in Jan ?? Hahaha!

[dawnyama]

Julie--I hate that you are up too. How disappointing. I am tired of riding the high end of my window. I didn't even get to indulge like you did while in Mexico! I had P3 foods only! Not only a lick of extra exercise even. I mean, I wish I did something to actually be worthy of this gain. I mean if I can gain with eating P3 foods, what will I ever get to eat P4 foods???!!! I hate this part of the protocol---maintenance is hard, with a capital H!!

[dazygyrl]

i doing P2 now. have found myself up way too much after a cruise and another week long trip. but don't know if the patches i have will get me where i want to, so i won't rule it out in january.

[buttah]

I'm so sorry some of you are struggling.

I was down a bit below LDW again today. Spent the day surrounded by food at my son's half day regatta, and then at a friend's birthday. I had a half an apple with a smudge of peanut butter on it at the regatta (at the crack of dawn), followed by turkey sausage egg scramble (hold the potatoes and toast). Then at the birthday dinner, I literally poured my rice-free and bean-free burrito right out of its tortilla and on to the plate (quickly disposed of the tortilla), then skipped the ice cream bar. Came home to some SF chocolate instead. My stomach isn't full - just not hungry any more. But mostly I'm just proud of everything I said no to today. And happy with what I got to eat.

I feel great. I'm hopeful tomorrow will be below LDW as well. Tuesday begins P4.

[julieboolie]

Originally Posted by dazygyrl

dawn & julie...i know you are more protocol gals, but have you considered giving yourself a 5 lb window? to me, 2 lbs seems way to unattainable. julie you know that uptick is more than likely bulk like you said...with a bigger window, there be more room for those things.

just a thought....

Thanks sweetie!! I am leaning toward something like this. I'm able to starve/FF myself back into window, but as soon as I eat anything w. fiber, or more than CD like foods I gain out of window again. This is pretty long to be messing about w. my window (week 2 of P4!!). So, I bit the bullet today and tried to keep my calories lower and upped my carbs a bit. Decided if I was gonna' be up on the scale I would do it w. carbs, not clean P3. I'd like to convince my body that some carbs aren't bad. I can live like this. I'm sure I'll be up a bit more tomorrow, but it'd be nice to stabilize near my window, if not in it. I'll readjust as I go I guess. Thanks for the suggestion Total agreement

Originally Posted by dawnyama

Julie--I hate that you are up too. How disappointing. I am tired of riding the high end of my window. I didn't even get to indulge like you did while in Mexico! I had P3 foods only! Not only a lick of extra exercise even. I mean, I wish I did something to actually be worthy of this gain. I mean if I can gain with eating P3 foods, what will I ever get to eat P4 foods???!!! I hate this part of the protocol---maintenance is hard, with a capital H!!

So fragile!! Like walking on egg shells to get the # we're hoping for on the scale. I've been "so good" since I got home from Mexico, multiple CDs, FF like days and VLC, and still bump out if I had a salad I hope you're able to figure out what works best for you. Are you just eating higher cals do you think? Not sure what you're meals look like, and I know you're VERY experienced at this. So sorry!

Buttah-that's some impressive self control!! Loads of temptation and you did great!! WTG!! That's the way to maintain!!

So, I decided today to go ahead and relax the low carb side of things. I didn't go hog wild. I am still coming in around 1700cals today, which is a bit lower than the calculators all recommend for me. But, It's 21% carbs!! That's sky high for me lately. I'm sure I'll pay for it tomorrow, but like Buttah mentioned the other day, it's worth a shot to see if I can stabilize w. more food/options at a slightly higher weight for a while. Then, if I can really stabilize there, try to lose a bit more down the road. So, I'm prepared for a big bump tomorrow, and maybe doing a CD if it's a significant one. I'm not sure I want to train my body to maintain on 1000-1200 VLC cals. If it's fighting me w. that, any higher carb or cal day will automatically cause a gain. So, going to dabble this week and see where I land. Wouldn't it be lovely to wake up tomorrow and find the scale really likes higher carb? A girl can dream, right?

[LaraSuzz]

Good Morning all!

I'm way up. ON Saturday I had dim sum and gained 4 pounds, the next day I was up 2... this weekend ruined me. I think that I can correct it with low carb... so I will give that a shot today and see what happens. I'm gonna get a pork roast after work and eat that for dinner, thats how I lost last week.

The chef didnt call for our date Friday. I was relieved. I dont know what he was thinking but I'm happy that I can justthink about myself for now.

Back to dating myself!! Yeah!!! lol.

[julieboolie]

Good morning maintainers!! How was the weekend?

Lara- Bummer! I'm so sorry!! It's not fun, but at least you have good memories of Dim Sum and soften the gain. I'm sure you'll be right back down this week. Hopefully whatever was working so well for you last week will kick in today!

Well, I had higher carbs yesterday, as I confessed last night. I had been reading more on my thyroid and the impact LC has on it, as well as just a general feeling of misery from being so controlled for a long time and still not seeing the reward for it. Add to that the acceptance that maybe my body would like a larger range in which to maintain, and I found myself enjoying a free, small serving of frozen custard and then later in the evening having a small Almond Joy, and a PB cup!! I haven't had actual sugar in something for months!!

I was fully prepared to see 148+ on the scale this morning. And? I woke up to 146!! My temp was up to 97.6 too. I do NOT claim to understand my body. I have experimented for years and thought LC was the best way for me to lose and/or maintain. Maybe this is a fluke? Maybe it's a gift from God? I do NOT know. But, today I will have higher carbs (healthier ones!!) and see what tomorrow brings. Truthfully I've missed my apples!

So, happy w. that. 0.8 above window and not going to fight that. If my body will settle here I will let it.

Hope you're all doing well!!

[tarheelkris]

I go tonight for my last weigh-in at my doctor's office. I'm excited to get my final numbers on inches lost!

[LaraSuzz]

Originally Posted by julieboolie

Good morning maintainers!! How was the weekend?

Lara- Bummer! I'm so sorry!! It's not fun, but at least you have good memories of Dim Sum and soften the gain. I'm sure you'll be right back down this week. Hopefully whatever was working so well for you last week will kick in today!

Well, I had higher carbs yesterday, as I confessed last night. I had been reading more on my thyroid and the impact LC has on it, as well as just a general feeling of misery from being so controlled for a long time and still not seeing the reward for it. Add to that the acceptance that maybe my body would like a larger range in which to maintain, and I found myself enjoying a free, small serving of frozen custard and then later in the evening having a small Almond Joy, and a PB cup!! I haven't had actual sugar in something for months!!

I was fully prepared to see 148+ on the scale this morning. And? I woke up to 146!! My temp was up to 97.6 too. I do NOT claim to understand my body. I have experimented for years and thought LC was the best way for me to lose and/or maintain. Maybe this is a fluke? Maybe it's a gift from God? I do NOT know. But, today I will have higher carbs (healthier ones!!) and see what tomorrow brings. Truthfully I've missed my apples!

So, happy w. that. 0.8 above window and not going to fight that. If my body will settle here I will let it.

Hope you're all doing well!!

That's so cool that you got to have what you wanted with no ill effects!
I think that my baby step turned into one big step for mankind lol... hopefully its just sodium meaty meaty meat meat.... week.

So how about a meetup next year for the west coast girls? You mentioned something like that... Phoenix.. Las vegas... San Diego.. Los Angeles? what do you guys think?

[Reddy]

Hi Guys...

Still not getting Notifications for this thread. Are we going to start a new one for November?

Sorry I've been MIA but I've actually been in MIA.

As many of you know, my Grandmother has not been well, well she's now in hospice care and her time is very limited. Was down visiting with her this weekend and it was absolutely gut wrenching to see her like this. Skin and Bones, so weak, just a total mess. Not eating or drinking anything... My whole family is a wreck.

This is by far the hardest thing I've ever been through. If I didn't have a beautiful doll for a son keeping me smiling I'd be completely and utterly depressed. Sorry I'm just not in a good place right now.

I did not weight today because I was TERRIBLE this past 5 days or so. Started with Candy on Halloween and then this weekend I was 100% off the diet and eating carbs and sugar and whatever I felt like. I'm guessing I"m up at least 4-5lbs OVER the window, but I don't know. I feel so puffy and bloated, my rings are tight, I just feel awful. Today I'm doing a "meat day" in hopes of correcting some of that.

Bacon and Coffee for Breakfast, I'll have a Burger for Lunch and then steak and broccoli for dinner. Then I will assess the damage on the scale tomorrow.

Sorry I'm so behind that doing individual responses is not going to happen.

I see we have some new people here, welcome! Hope everyone is rocking maintenance. Miss you all!

[shelbyla]

Originally Posted by tarheelkris

When I was taking the Rx HCG I had to go to my doctor's office once a week for weigh-in and a B12 shot. With the hhcg did you feel weak and/or did you take supplemental B12?

I always supplement B12. 5000mg daily. The methylcobalamin form is better and more absorbable than the cyanocobalamin form.

Originally Posted by dazygyrl

i just experienced this this morning, too. i normally weigh at 5:30am. being it's saturday i wanted to sleep in, but had to goto the bathroom at 5:30. i was down .6 from yesterday. at 8am when i got up i was down another pound, so a total of 1.6 down from yesterday. why do you suppose this is? i won't count the extra pound down, tho, just the 5:30 weight.

I have NO idea! It completely puzzles me as well!

Originally Posted by LaraSuzz

So how about a meetup next year for the west coast girls? You mentioned something like that... Phoenix.. Las vegas... San Diego.. Los Angeles? what do you guys think?

I am there! C'Marie and I are already talking about it...

[shelbyla]

@Julie - YAY for being in your window!!!!!! I often see a temp spike when I either eat carbs or drink. I honestly do think it has a significant impact on body temp.

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I am having a challenging day, guys. My temps have been down and I've been feeling a bit run down, generally. I was having a GREAT run there with temps being in the normal ranges then this... Boo! Anyway, I weighed this morning, which I normally do not do on Mondays, and despite no booze this weekend and eating POP yesterday after sushi on Saturday, I am WAAAAY up over Saturday's weigh in. I should by all accounts be doing a cd today but I just wasn't feelin' it so I'm eating a good clean P3 day, high fat, pounding the H2O and I'll do a cd tomorrow if I'm still up, which fits in better with my schedule anyway. Back to some good massage therapy tomorrow so hopefully I can get rid of some of this stress.

Hang in there everyone!