How long to wait in P3 before starting another round?

[caligirl3]

I've got 120 pounds to lose. I expect it will take somewhere around 5 rounds to do it if I stay POP. I'm trying to figure out what my start/end dates will be for each round.

How long do I have to wait to go back and start another round? I'm trying to plan out the year (yes, I have to plan vacations a year in advance at work, and I'd like to plan around P2 times), so I'd like an idea when all my start/end dates will be:

hCG round 1 - 10/1/2012 - 11/12/12 (43 days)
hCG round 2 - START DATE - END DATE (43 days)
hCG round 3 - START DATE - END DATE (43 days)
hCG round 4 - START DATE - END DATE (43 days)
hCG round 5 - START DATE - END DATE (43 days)

Thanks!!!

[manders]

I wish I could help you with this, but I think it's a tad unrealistic. Your body isn't just going to lose 1.0 pounds a day, every day. You're going to have stalls, gains, losses, interruptions, everything.

If I were you, I would just focus on my first round, plan your vacations at work without HCG in mind and deal with your vacation when you get to it as a planned interruption.

Just my opinion.

[caligirl3]

Originally Posted by manders

I wish I could help you with this, but I think it's a tad unrealistic. Your body isn't just going to lose 1.0 pounds a day, every day. You're going to have stalls, gains, losses, interruptions, everything.

If I were you, I would just focus on my first round, plan your vacations at work without HCG in mind and deal with your vacation when you get to it as a planned interruption.

Just my opinion.

What's unrealistic? I'm just trying to figure out the dates of each round. No expectations for any specific losses each round. I know I'll do 42 day rounds each time.

[manders]

Nevermind. I must have misread and taken it the wrong way. Carry on.

[caligirl3]

No worries! I figured it out. If I'm correct in thinking that I should do 21 days in P3, followed by 21 days in P4 prior to starting another round, I believe there are 85 days total to each round. Provided, of course, if I go back-to-back as I'm hoping to. (P2: 43 days + P3: 21 days + P4: 21days = 85 days each round.)

So (5) 43-day rounds would look like this:
10/1/2012 - 10/19/2013

hCG round 1 - 10/1/2012 - 11/13/2013 (43 days)
hCG round 2 - 12/25/2012 - 2/6/2013 (43 days)
hCG round 3 - 3/20/2013 - 5/2/2013 (43 days)
hCG round 4 - 6/13/2013 - 7/26/2013 (43 days)
hCG round 5 - 9/6/2013 - 10/19/2012 (43 days)

Of course I'm aware that I may not make it the whole 43 days all rounds, and that I may want to wait longer that just 21 days in P4 prior to starting another round, but technically, if I did go as planned, these would be my start and end dates for 5 rounds back-to-back.

I hold no expectations as to the amount of actual weight will actually come off each round, but am just planning out the dates so I can vacation in P3 or P4 vs. P2.

Thanks!

[shelbyla]

Cali - are you doing the homeopathic hCG or the rx? If you do rx, please be aware that the recommended P4 time increases each round. Between round one and round 2, 3 weeks. Between round 2 and round 3, 5 weeks. Etc. I don't think there is this consideration with the hhCG but just thought you should be aware in case you are doing the rx. It's completely fine if you choose to not follow this plan but just wanted to make you aware in case you weren't. Here is the relevant P&I passage (this is referring to the TOTAL time between rounds with the assumption that P3 is always 3 weeks...):

Further Courses
Patients requiring the loss of more than 34 lbs. must have a second or even more courses. A second course can be started after an interval of not less than six weeks (3 weeks P3 and 3 weeks P4), though the pause can be more than six weeks. When a third, fourth or even fifth course is necessary, the interval between courses should be made progressively longer. Between a second and third course eight weeks should elapse (3 weeks P3 and 5 weeks P4), between a third and fourth course twelve weeks (3 weeks P3 and 9 weeks P4), between a fourth and fifth course twenty weeks and between a fifth and sixth course six months. In this way it is possible to bring about a weight reduction of 100 lbs. and more if required without the least hardship to the patient.

[julieboolie]

Originally Posted by caligirl3

No worries! I figured it out. If I'm correct in thinking that I should do 21 days in P3, followed by 21 days in P4 prior to starting another round, I believe there are 85 days total to each round. Provided, of course, if I go back-to-back as I'm hoping to. (P2: 43 days + P3: 21 days + P4: 21days = 85 days each round.)

So (5) 43-day rounds would look like this:
10/1/2012 - 10/19/2013

hCG round 1 - 10/1/2012 - 11/13/2013 (43 days)
hCG round 2 - 12/25/2012 - 2/6/2013 (43 days)
hCG round 3 - 3/20/2013 - 5/2/2013 (43 days)
hCG round 4 - 6/13/2013 - 7/26/2013 (43 days)
hCG round 5 - 9/6/2013 - 10/19/2012 (43 days)

Of course I'm aware that I may not make it the whole 43 days all rounds, and that I may want to wait longer that just 21 days in P4 prior to starting another round, but technically, if I did go as planned, these would be my start and end dates for 5 rounds back-to-back.

I hold no expectations as to the amount of actual weight will actually come off each round, but am just planning out the dates so I can vacation in P3 or P4 vs. P2.

Thanks!

Nice to see another planner here . I'm like that too, in that I love to take vacation and eating out is a big part of it for me. Just can't enjoy that on P2!! I like planning and having something to look forward to. Also, goals and rewards are a big part of staying motivated.

Your plan looks great!! The only potential downside would be if you decide to do shorter rounds. (this is likely. P2 is very draining and boring). You could, theoretically, start another round sooner than this proposed timing. That would be the only possible glitch. You can certainly do as long a P4 as you like, I'd recommend 3 weeks minimum. But if you don't do a 43 day P2 round, you could always do a longer P4 to keep to the above schedule (did that make sense?)

5 rounds should get you to your goal. And it's such an exicitng and quick weight loss. You'll be dropping sizes and lbs before you know it!! (looks like you already are). Good luck to you!!

[caligirl3]

Thanks for the feedback Shelby and Julie! 70 and 130 pounds lost are great accomplishments!

I'm using homeopathic hCG drops, so I figure that I don't have to increase each time. There is much talk about staying on P3 for 3 weeks, and then going right back into P2 (skipping P4), but my iPad app won't allow for it. It requires you to go on P4 for at least 3 weeks before beginning another round. I think it's a good practice anyways, to make sure you're properly resetting your metabolism, and learning how to maintain in P4. While the quicker loss sounds tempting (skipping P4 and going back to P2 after 3 weeks of P3), I think that would be too much time in P2 back to back, and may not be sustainable in the long run.

I'm hoping to go the full 43 days of P2, followed by 21 days each in P3/P4 for variety and learning.

I'd love to know how everyone else did their multiple rounds.

[shelbyla]

Good to hear it, cali! I think you will be fine for hhCG doing as you have planned with your schedule. I took all of the required breaks with my rounds, sometimes much longer in P3/P4 than required. I honestly feel that the longer the time between rounds, the more successful the rounds tend to be. I agree that it's good practice for maintaining and learning, and it allows your body to catch up and do some great reshaping in between. It also gives you a break from the P2 protocol, both mentally and physically--it's REALLY hard!

Have fun and good luck!

[dawnyama]

Originally Posted by shelbyla

Good to hear it, cali! I think you will be fine for hhCG doing as you have planned with your schedule. I took all of the required breaks with my rounds, sometimes much longer in P3/P4 than required. I honestly feel that the longer the time between rounds, the more successful the rounds tend to be. I agree that it's good practice for maintaining and learning, and it allows your body to catch up and do some great reshaping in between. It also gives you a break from the P2 protocol, both mentally and physically--it's REALLY hard!

Have fun and good luck!

I concur. Take it from someone who knows a thing about re-losing (re-losing and re-losing) weight on hcg, (and that someone is not Shelby)