P2 Simeons Protocol Week of 10-01-2012

[HappyChick]

Good Morning, Ladies and Gent!

Originally Posted by manders

Awe thanks girl I appreciate it so much.

Dear Mandarin Orange, ( )

I hope your furbaby's tests go well, that he responds perfectly to the meds, and that you'll forgive BF for not being as sensitive as us girls.

Originally Posted by heahyou00

Good Morning,
Well after 2 days of loading I stepped on the scales and was sure I had gained 10 pds, but it was only 1.5 Not too bad. Today is day 1 of the low calorie, I can do this!! I went grocery shopping and got all the yummy food I need Last night I made the phase 2 chili and brought that for lunch today. So far Im not hungry, but plan to kinda spread my food through out the day to keep me going.

Does anyone else find that they need to combine something with their fruit so their blood sugar doesnt spike? I think that tends to happen to me with sugary type things.

Heres to a great day!!

Kelly

Great loading, Kelly! You're going to do great!!

Originally Posted by shannashimmers

VLCD day 2 and down 6lbs. I felt so horrible yesterday though it was bad couldnt even sleep good. The weird thing is my bp is up too. This is the first round I have done since I had a baby and I have never felt like this on it before. Hopefully things will get better.
I also had a flu shot 5 days ago is that to late to feel bad from that does anyone know? That is just how I felt like I had the flu.

Oh, yea- that would be my guess. Detox plus flu shot= no wonder you felt like caca doo doo..

re: BP being up.. That happened to me during my first round! I normally have very low blood pressure and it was freaky to see it higher. Mine only lasted a few days and I *think* it was from the rapid increase of lipids in my bloodstream.. it took a bit for my blood to clear out all that newly released fat! <- not based on science- just my thoughts on it.

Originally Posted by dbunny

Hey all
Down .5 for a total of 10 pounds for week one. I stop dosing today for an interruption (I know, too early, but I couldn't keep eating the way I was.. Family in town this weekend, vacation the next.) I feel like this first week will help me control my eating since I have to resume dosing on the 15th. Will keep posting here or on P3 thread for accountability until I can get back in the swing of things.. Good luck all!

dbunny- Good luck and enjoy your PI!

Originally Posted by buttah

Today TOM started and I STS!!! Do you know what this means, if my lifelong history is any indicator? It means I am due for a really nice loss in a day or three. I ALWAYS drop after TOM (prior to which, I stall or gain a bit), sometimes 2-3 lbs. So I'm VERY optimistic!

Buttah- YOU GO!!!

Originally Posted by Viola De Lesseps

Hello, all! I'm back after an interruption I wasn't planning on having... I'm disappointed, but I gained <1#, so it's not that bad, I suppose. I'm plugging away for another week, then moving to P3. I think the lack of fat & an extra heap of life stressors is making me feel unmotivated. I tried on a bunch of clothes this morning that I fit into last fall... 10 more #s will make all the difference!! I made a ton of green tea & will make some meals to take to work.

Viola- how long was your unPI??

Originally Posted by pandora174

Hi !

My name is Barbara. Hope I can join This will be my 3rd round on hHCG. I started my weightloss journey 1/20/12 at 244.4. I lost my first 50 lbs with a weightloss clinic. My first hHCG round I lost 27.5, this last round 27.6 (but I had a vacation cheat & loading, so really 15 less LDW). Today is R3P2D2 & I'm down 4.4 to 153.4. My LDW was 150.6 but I put on 7.2 loading

I'm planning on getting to my goal weight this round & then maintain it. I'm looking for support & hope to share my experiences with everyone. I hope to get to 130 or 135 which would be a dream come true.

Barbara!!! Your stats are awesome!!

Originally Posted by temekayoung

Hey everyone i was down 1 lb today. I would like to get to 228lb this round. Fingers crossed. Last year i i got down to 236lbs on low carbs and exercising 2 hrs a day. It took me 8 months. Im almost back there again!!!
HAPPY RELEASES!!!

Temeka!!

Originally Posted by Felina

Hi everyone! I'm back doing protocol again for round 4. My last round was a wash since I only lost the weight I gained from loading (a whopping 13 lbs!).

This time I only gained 10 lbs from loading. I know that's more than anyone else gains, but for me, it's less than I gained last time so I'm okay with it.

I started 9/30 loading so today will be p2d2. I'm not hungry at all. I only managed to get in 288 calories yesterday. I'll try to up the calories today because I'm not sure if the low calories are what hindered my weight loss last round.

Wish me luck!

Felina!! and Good luck!! We're all here for each other!!

Originally Posted by Katrina04

Good morning ladies! First time posting but I want to be a part of this great thread! I probably can't post much (I don't have the Internet right now and only have my iPhone to post) but I will be reading daily to keep myself inspired!!

I started a week ago and have done 100% protocal. I am doing the injections and plan to do the full 40 days! So far so good, I'm down almost 10lbs and I haven't hardly been hungry. The few first days were really tough because of detoxing but other than that it's been a miracle diet! This is my first round and hopefully will be my last! If I loose 34lbs I will be at my goal weight and that's what I'm hoping for!

Thanks girls for sharing everything, it really does help me!!!!

Stats-

Day #8
Age-26
Height-5'11
Starting Weight-190
Weight Now-180.4
Goal Weight-156

Katrina!! Sounds like you're off to a great start!!


Dawn! You are so close to goal!! So happy for you and I can't wait to say the same!! I wouldn't worry about that little YO in the works.. you know how it is! Here's to another whooosh soon!

[Abby1983]

Originally Posted by manders

STICK WITH IT!!!

I have brutal TOM's, but I prefer it to having the hormones from birth control in my body. You will see a nice drop closer to the end of your cycle. Promise! It's all water weight. You CANNOT gain 3 true pounds of fat overnight.

Have you thought of just not weighing yourself during your TOM?

i am one of those people that if i dont weight every day, my weight will spiral out of control, and then i will be scared of the scale, and by the time i finally get back on it im up 8 pounds in a few weeks. its a viscious cycle of my own creation

Originally Posted by manders

On a side note, my BF was saying some very mean things tonight which I will attribute to him being stressed out. I finally cracked and told him I need a break. I cannot handle everything here while trying to deal with him being unsupportive. I shouldn't have to beg for him support. Quite honestly, being with my dog and taking care of my emotional and physical health is more important than dealing with him right now.

i'm sorry to hear this the best thing you can do right now is handle one thing at a time. and first and foremost your priority should be you!

[Abby1983]

well im down .8 today to 151.2. i feel my body getting more 'normal' and releasing some water weight and 'food' weight TOM makes my lower half go haywire. ugh! i had such higher hopes for this round when i started bc the weight was coming off so easily. DH should be home in a week from work and i havent seen him in 3 months so i was super excited to show off to him. i'm still about 8 pounds less than when he left so it's not as bad as my self esteem is letting it be.
so i'm keeping it simple today with a chicken and cabbage stir fry. i had the same thing last night and it was so tasty, so i might just make that twice today. i need to hit up the grocery store on my lunch break and restock bc i'm down to just oranges and lettuce. oops

[pandora174]

Originally Posted by Sas

HC - Last night I tried tea before bed bc that seems to relax me. I also had a Soma (muscle relaxer) because I have a knot in my back. Doesn't help that BF wants to watch tv in our room while I try to go to sleep, but he did move it to the other room when I asked. Can we take Melatonin on P2? Do you take it in the evenings?

I've been taking Melatonin the last 2 rounds. I actually started it when my son's neuro recommended it for him due to his adhd & his medication keeps him up. So I gave him the lowest dosage & he was asleep in 30 min and would wake up refreshed. I take 2 1mg a night and fall asleep but can wake up to go to the bathroom & basically wake up before my alarm goes off at 5:50 am. So far no negative side effects. Otherwise I would be tossing and turning all night long.

I've always had anxiety issues & before hHCG I was taking Xanax 3x a day the hcg helped so much with my mood & anxiety I was able to get off completely the Xanax but still had issues with sleep until I started the Melatonin.

[Sas]

Mandy - Feel free to PM me about relationships!! I've been with my bf for 3 years now and he just officially moved in so we are going through some adjustments. It's not easy

Barbara - Welcome to the group! You could not be in a better place! I'm on my 3rd or 4th round, can't remember, lol. Your stats look great! Thanks for the input on Melatonin. I am stopping at Whole Foods tonight, so I'm picking some up!

Temeka - You can do it! So excited about your lb! I got my whoosh this morning also

Felina & Katrina - Welcome! Good luck to you!

Abby - keep that fridge stocked! That's always been a downfall for me. 3 months?? Wow! Show it off gf!

I'm down a lb today! Yippee! 162.5 I was so good yesterday My BF asked me this morning if I was back on HCG because he saw what I was packing for lunch. BUSTED. I lied and said I still like the meals but add a big salad to it when I get to work. :\

Good Morning to all of you!! I wanted to share this little blurb from the book I am reading.

Surround yourself with friends or family members who care about you and want what's best for you. Having a support system is like having a safety net below you at all times. It gives you the courage to take the next step forward, adn then the next, as you embark on this journey of self-discovery and transformation.

[buttah]

8/30 - 169.5 LOAD DAY 1
8/31 - ??? LOAD DAY 2
9/01 - VLCD1 172.8 +3.3 after loading
9/02 - VLCD2 169.5 -3.3 (lost all of loading)
9/03 - VLCD3 167.1 -2.4 (-5.7 from load w)
9/04 - VLCD4 165.8 -1.3 (-6 from load w, 3.7 from pre-load)
9/05 - VLCD5 165.1 -0.7 (-4.4 from pre-load)
9/06 - VLCD6 164.1 -1.0 (-5.4 from pre-load)
9/07 - VLCD7 164.0 -0.1 (-5.5 from pre-load) (injected 125iu)
9/08 - VLCD8 163.0 -1.0 (-6.5 from pre-load)
9/09 - VLCD9 163.? (can't remember, possibly up .4 or STS)
9/10 - VLCD10 163 (back to 150iu, better day hunger wise)
9/11 - VLCD11 162.8 -0.2
9/12 - VLCD12 161.4 -1.4 (SM tea helped)
9/13 - VLCD13 161.4 STS (predicted post-SM tea "stall")
9/14 - VLCD14 STS is my guess
9/15 - VLCD15 160.7 -0.7
9/16 - VLCD16 160.3 -0.4
9/17 - VLCD17 160.0
9/18 - VLCD18 160.0
9/19 - VLCD19 159.0
9/20 - VLCD20 159.3
9/21 - VLCD21 158.4
9/22 - VLCD22 STS
9/23 - VLCD23 STS
9/24 - VLCD24 STS
9/25 - VLCD25 STS
9/26 - VLCD26 157.7
9/27 - VLCD27 157.4
9/28 - VLCD28 157.2
9/29 - VLCD29 156.5
9/30 - VLCD30 156.6 (I call that STS)
10/1 - VLCD31 155.9
10/2 - VLCD32 STS with TOM staring today (good sign of things to come)!
10/3 - VLCD33 154.8

down 1.1, which is HUGE for me at this late stage of the game (as you can see)! And TOM still going, which means the possibility of another decent drop.

Question. How many injection days are really okay? I've seen different numbers - 40, 42, 43 (I guess some count the load days and some don't)? Because my clinic has given me enough shots for 46 days (perhaps mistakenly, as I switched the day of the week I came in), but that seems pretty much further than Simeons recommended. And they don't have patients skip a day a week (I wouldn't have anyway, because I wasn't even sure I was going past 23). Have many here done more than 43 without issues? I had SO wanted to get closer to 145!

Thanks!!!

Oh one last thing... is everyone else hungrier during TOM? At least I think it's TOM - I hope it's not immunity setting in.

Thanks in advance!

[Sas]

Woo hoo Buttah!! "happy dance"!!

[heahyou00]

Good Morning Everyone,
I am happy to report I was down the 1.5 I gained during loading and another pound along with it!! woohoo I will take it, I love being able to change my weight on my lil avatar thingy lol.

The hunger kicked in last night, something terrible, I was starving after dinner, all evening, it was everything I could do not to snack, I will admit I ate some apple chips, but I figured if thats the least of what I got into, I will be ok lol.

I am keeping todays menu the same as yesterday, but I think instead of the orange I will find some other fruit. I am wondering if the sugar in it is what set me off?


Kelly

[Berta48]

Morning ladies and gents if any are here!
I am down a .4 this morning.I am like Dawn I hate the .2 & .4's but I have a total of five off so far this week the week will be up Tues, so actually not bad at all! I have seven more to get to my mini goal this time.I am hopeful as Ihave one more week. I can then change that mini goal to 220!! As I have been doing this ten lbs at a time!

BUTTAH Congratulations!!!!
Any everyone else AND WELCOME to all the newbies.Back to the sewing room

[Sas]

Chili for lunch!! Yummy!

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Congrats heahyou and Berta!

[buttah]

Also wanted to welcome all the new buddies!

And people who have sleep issues: Natural Calm has been amazing for that, for me, as well. Has nobody else noticed that benefit? I always take it in the evening for that reason. I only wish I'd started this round with it!

[Berta48]

I need help and have a serious problem....

We just learned of my father n laws passing.And now we have to take a flight to Washington State. I can't take my HCG and don't know what to do!!!
I know I can take an interuption but I have forgotten if I dose today one more time or what am I suppose to do.It isn't a planned interuptions but I don't have much choice.

Please someone help me as I am due to dose at 9:00 tonight and it is 4:30p.m. here.

[heahyou00]

Why cant you take it with you? Arent you allowed 3oz of liquid in your carry on?

[manders]

Originally Posted by dawnyama

And the yo-yoing has begun LOL. I am up a bit today--0.4. Oh well. It is OK. At this point I am really OK with it. I know I will be down again tomorrow. Hopefully with new numbers!!!

Happy Wednesday!!!

Normal fluctuations. It was a full moon the other day.

Originally Posted by dawnyama

Sometimes that is a good thing I wish you peace today, Mandy

Yep. Our break only lasted about 3 hours. He was like "you could have just said BRB and I wouldn't have known any different."

Originally Posted by Felina

Hi everyone! I'm back doing protocol again for round 4. My last round was a wash since I only lost the weight I gained from loading (a whopping 13 lbs!).

This time I only gained 10 lbs from loading. I know that's more than anyone else gains, but for me, it's less than I gained last time so I'm okay with it.

I started 9/30 loading so today will be p2d2. I'm not hungry at all. I only managed to get in 288 calories yesterday. I'll try to up the calories today because I'm not sure if the low calories are what hindered my weight loss last round.

Wish me luck!

What are you loading on? Loading on carbs with cause dramatic increases as opposed to loading mostly on fats. I generally gain about 6-10 each time.

Originally Posted by Katrina04

Good morning ladies! First time posting but I want to be a part of this great thread! I probably can't post much (I don't have the Internet right now and only have my iPhone to post) but I will be reading daily to keep myself inspired!!

I started a week ago and have done 100% protocal. I am doing the injections and plan to do the full 40 days! So far so good, I'm down almost 10lbs and I haven't hardly been hungry. The few first days were really tough because of detoxing but other than that it's been a miracle diet! This is my first round and hopefully will be my last! If I loose 34lbs I will be at my goal weight and that's what I'm hoping for!

Thanks girls for sharing everything, it really does help me!!!!

Stats-

Day #8
Age-26
Height-5'11
Starting Weight-190
Weight Now-180.4
Goal Weight-156

Congrats! We're in a similar boat. Welcome! You've done well so far. This thread is so helpful to stay accountable and so you don't feel alone ever!

Originally Posted by Abby1983

i am one of those people that if i dont weight every day, my weight will spiral out of control, and then i will be scared of the scale, and by the time i finally get back on it im up 8 pounds in a few weeks. its a viscious cycle of my own creation


i'm sorry to hear this the best thing you can do right now is handle one thing at a time. and first and foremost your priority should be you!

Really? I love the feeling of not weighing for a week and seeing a 5 pound drop, instead of 3/4 pound a day. It's too slow for me that way. If I lose 2 pounds I say Oh I can treat myself. And then I go up 2 pounds. And then I lose 2 pounds and treat myself and go back up. It's a vicious circle.

Happy Chick - Awe thank you, I appreciate it

Originally Posted by Sas

Mandy - Feel free to PM me about relationships!! I've been with my bf for 3 years now and he just officially moved in so we are going through some adjustments. It's not easy

Thank you! I'm sure we could use each others support.

Originally Posted by Berta48

I need help and have a serious problem....

We just learned of my father n laws passing.And now we have to take a flight to Washington State. I can't take my HCG and don't know what to do!!!
I know I can take an interuption but I have forgotten if I dose today one more time or what am I suppose to do.It isn't a planned interuptions but I don't have much choice.

Please someone help me as I am due to dose at 9:00 tonight and it is 4:30p.m. here.

Berta I'm so sorry! I would say do one last dose and then go. My thoughts and prayers are with you and your DH and his family.

[buttah]

Berta, I thought airlines had to let you carry medicines like this in one of those medicine carriers (with a cold thingie in it). I'm sure I've read that somewhere on this board. I would call the airline.

[Berta48]

Originally Posted by heahyou00

Why cant you take it with you? Arent you allowed 3oz of liquid in your carry on?

I am doing RX and it has to be kept refrigerated.

[buttah]

REPOST from above: Question. How many injection days are really okay? I've seen different numbers - 40, 42, 43 (I guess some count the load days and some don't)? Because my clinic has given me enough shots for 46 days (perhaps mistakenly, as I switched the day of the week I came in), but that seems pretty much further than Simeons recommended. And they don't have patients skip a day a week (I wouldn't have anyway, because I wasn't even sure I was going past 23). Have many here done more than 43 without issues? I had SO wanted to get closer to 145!

Thanks!!!

Thanks in advance!

Still would love an answer to this, if any veterans have any feedback.

Berta, all of our thoughts will be with you!

[buttah]

Berta, they have cold packs you can use for carrying it onboard. Any medical supply or even drugstore should have one!

[Berta48]

Originally Posted by heahyou00

Why cant you take it with you? Arent you allowed 3oz of liquid in your carry on?

Originally Posted by buttah

Berta, I thought airlines had to let you carry medicines like this in one of those medicine carriers (with a cold thingie in it). I'm sure I've read that somewhere on this board. I would call the airline.

We dont have tiME to do all that.I am just dosing tonight and letting it go what will be will be.We are packing and faMily is taking care of the tickets ON THE OTHER END FOR US and we ahve to drive to WICHITA ks TONIGHT SO JUST NO TIME TO PREPARE.
sEE EVERYONE WHEN WE GET BACK.iN A WEEK.
sORRY FOR ALL THE caps abd all the errors but we are rushed!

[manders]

Great. I'm almost out of anxiety medication because it's such a small dose and I had to take extra and I can't see my Dr. until Friday morning and she wouldn't allow the pharmacy to give me even 2 more tablets.

That in itself is sending me into a panic.

Safe travels Berta.

[dawnyama]

Originally Posted by Berta48

I need help and have a serious problem....

We just learned of my father n laws passing.And now we have to take a flight to Washington State. I can't take my HCG and don't know what to do!!!
I know I can take an interuption but I have forgotten if I dose today one more time or what am I suppose to do.It isn't a planned interuptions but I don't have much choice.

Please someone help me as I am due to dose at 9:00 tonight and it is 4:30p.m. here.

Thinking of you Berta I had a funeral to attend on a P2 and I ate horribly. I think an interruption is best right now. You can always lose it when you get back. Safe travels hon

[dawnyama]

Originally Posted by buttah

REPOST from above: Question. How many injection days are really okay? I've seen different numbers - 40, 42, 43 (I guess some count the load days and some don't)? Because my clinic has given me enough shots for 46 days (perhaps mistakenly, as I switched the day of the week I came in), but that seems pretty much further than Simeons recommended. And they don't have patients skip a day a week (I wouldn't have anyway, because I wasn't even sure I was going past 23). Have many here done more than 43 without issues? I had SO wanted to get closer to 145!

Thanks!!!

Thanks in advance!

Still would love an answer to this, if any veterans have any feedback.

Berta, all of our thoughts will be with you!

I saw the question above and wish I could help. I don't do Rx therefore no feedback from me. I can barely last the minimum 21 days on a round

[dawnyama]

Originally Posted by manders

Great. I'm almost out of anxiety medication because it's such a small dose and I had to take extra and I can't see my Dr. until Friday morning and she wouldn't allow the pharmacy to give me even 2 more tablets.

That in itself is sending me into a panic.

Safe travels Berta.

That is frustrating Hope you can take a bath and relax tonight. Maybe read a book or something.

[buttah]

Thanks, Dawn. Yeah, I'm not sure how much longer I can last. And TOM has me hungry, but I've been so busy today (back to back meetings in my now-getting-baggy size 8 jeans) I've only had one meal of 136 calories and it's 5pm!

Manders, Natural Calm has a very sedating effect on me right after I drink it (and I've used and do use Xanax, Klonopin, Ativan, all the wonderful anti-anxiety drugs as well, as needed). The woman at Whole Foods told me NC would mellow me out, and I didn't believe her until I drank it. I hope you feel better!

[temekayoung]

Originally Posted by manders

Congrats Temeka! So happy for you!

--

On a side note, my BF was saying some very mean things tonight which I will attribute to him being stressed out. I finally cracked and told him I need a break. I cannot handle everything here while trying to deal with him being unsupportive. I shouldn't have to beg for him support. Quite honestly, being with my dog and taking care of my emotional and physical health is more important than dealing with him right now.

Thanks Mandy!! Im sorry you're going thru it with your boyfriend. Im sure he will realize it's hurting you and come to his senses.


Im down 1.2lbs today!"

[manders]

Originally Posted by dawnyama

That is frustrating Hope you can take a bath and relax tonight. Maybe read a book or something.

I'll be snuggling up into bed tonight soon. Need to relax and sleep.

Originally Posted by buttah

Thanks, Dawn. Yeah, I'm not sure how much longer I can last. And TOM has me hungry, but I've been so busy today (back to back meetings in my now-getting-baggy size 8 jeans) I've only had one meal of 136 calories and it's 5pm!

Manders, Natural Calm has a very sedating effect on me right after I drink it (and I've used and do use Xanax, Klonopin, Ativan, all the wonderful anti-anxiety drugs as well, as needed). The woman at Whole Foods told me NC would mellow me out, and I didn't believe her until I drank it. I hope you feel better!

Sometimes it's nice when food isn't the first thing on your mind constantly. This Ativan isn't doing ANYTHING for me anymore. I will need something stronger to get through this period. I'm a big believer in no medicines but I really need it right now.

Congrats on the losses Temeka!

[Felina]

What are you loading on? Loading on carbs with cause dramatic increases as opposed to loading mostly on fats. I generally gain about 6-10 each time.

Yes, guilty as charged. I take advantage of the loading phase to eat anything and everything that I can't normally eat. I usually stick to low carb foods even in p4, so my body just cant handle eating carby stuff during the loading phase.

I had popcorn with butter, peach rings, corned beef hash, lots of French bread, chocolate milk, chinese food, and lots of full sugar drinks.

It was totally worth it, but the huge weight gain sets me back quite a bit. Now I have to lose a lot of weight just to get back where I started from.

[pandora174]

Morning Ladies ! vlcd4 & down -.02 only. I have to say I was disappointed this morning. Since my last 2 rounds the first week has been big drops. But I keep telling myself that I lost 4.4 & 3.2 the first 2 days so I need to relax. I'm already coming to terms that I will need to do a minimum of 30 days to get to my goal weight. I'm at 150 today & I would like to get to 130 but would be happy at 135.

Happy Releases everyone !

[pandora174]

Originally Posted by manders

Great. I'm almost out of anxiety medication because it's such a small dose and I had to take extra and I can't see my Dr. until Friday morning and she wouldn't allow the pharmacy to give me even 2 more tablets.

That in itself is sending me into a panic.

Safe travels Berta.

I so understand where you are coming from. Sleep, long baths, reading, soft music all help me deal with my anxiety. Hang in there, sending good thoughts your way

[Abby1983]

good morning ladies! day 3 of TOM, and vlcd 12 and back on track. im down to 148.8 today for a loss of 2.4 lbs overnight. i think my water weight is going away and hopefully taking some more weight with it on the down side im a bit worried im coming down with a cold. i have a scratchy throat, ears wont pop, and feel that 'getting sick' type of lightheadedness. plus everyone at work is sick i might be making some chicken soup for dinner tonight if that is the case! happy losing to everyone