HELP! plateaued

DelaneyS · 09-25-2012, 08:54 AM

I'm 18 days in and im stuck!! i have lost 12lbs so far and only have a few days left and am i'm getting frustrated

I havent even snuck one nibble of anything bad, i've been following protocol and still im plateaued. I am taking 15units daily and a regular day looks like this

breakfast: green tea, apple
lunch: cod, asparagus
dinner: taco beef, lettuce
snack: orange

im drinking 2L of water daily......

Does anyone have any ideas for me... please help

lemonmama · 09-25-2012, 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DelaneyS

I'm 18 days in and im stuck!! i have lost 12lbs so far and only have a few days left and am i'm getting frustrated

I havent even snuck one nibble of anything bad, i've been following protocol and still im plateaued. I am taking 15units daily and a regular day looks like this

breakfast: green tea, apple
lunch: cod, asparagus
dinner: taco beef, lettuce
snack: orange

im drinking 2L of water daily......

Does anyone have any ideas for me... please help

Sorry, I know that is frustrating! I bet you will have a woosh soon, but one thing you might consider is dropping the orange and replacing the calories with some extra protein instead. Some find that the sugar in oranges stall them a bit.

I, personally, try to only have fruit early in the day, and I usually only have one fruit per day. I will often have 1 scoop of sugar-free protein powder blended with iced coffee and some sugar-free flavored syrup or cocoa powder in the afternoon to replace calories from the second piece of fruit. I find that I lose better with more protein, less fruit. If you don't want to do the protein powder (I use egg white protein powder from J. Robb), you could just have a small portion of chicken breast or another protein for a snack.

Hope this helps!

LaraSuzz · 09-25-2012, 11:26 AM

Oranges stall me... Taco beef did too...

I would do an apple day and see if that gets things moving.... but plateaus can last a long time. Sorry youre having a hard time...

did you say youre taking 15 units do you mean 150 iu's?

dawnyama · 09-25-2012, 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DelaneyS

I'm 18 days in and im stuck!! i have lost 12lbs so far and only have a few days left and am i'm getting frustrated

I havent even snuck one nibble of anything bad, i've been following protocol and still im plateaued. I am taking 15units daily and a regular day looks like this

breakfast: green tea, apple
lunch: cod, asparagus
dinner: taco beef, lettuce
snack: orange

im drinking 2L of water daily......

Does anyone have any ideas for me... please help

How long have you been "stuck"? Dr Simeons calls a plateau 5 days without movement. If you have been at the same weight for 5 days, then you can do the apple day. I just did one and lost weight. Did really well on it! The only suggestion for a plateau is an apple day--AND you HAVE to be stalled out for at least 5 days. I wish you luck!

DelaneyS · 09-25-2012, 02:23 PM

i did an apple day after 2 days of plateau, still nothing.
i will try dropping oranges and beef... Ive dropped tomatoes because they stall me too

getting a little thin on what i can eat

dawnyama · 09-25-2012, 02:29 PM

After trying the apple day, you should look to your food. I never do the orange. It is just too much sugar for me. I do beef, because it works for me! And I like it. Once you find out what is stalling you, you will move. I know of someone who couldn't eat apples and chicken and lose. She had to cut those 2 out of her P2s to lose. So you might have to sleuth a bit. But more than likely it is something you are eating every day. Or at least when the stall hit. Hope you have kept a food journal.

DelaneyS · 09-25-2012, 03:18 PM

so if i added extra protein to my day instead of the night time orange how much would i add??

manders · 09-25-2012, 03:42 PM

I don't think anyone said that you should add extra protein. I THINK Dawn was saying that she does beef for her protein because it works, whereas some people can only do chicken. I personally do not do fruit every day. Too much sugar for me.

DelaneyS · 09-25-2012, 03:46 PM

so what do you replace your calorie intake with then?
im not doing melba toast. do you just eat your 2 meals a day? im soooo confused

DelaneyS · 09-25-2012, 03:52 PM

a gf's dr doubled her dose for the day when she was stuck, does anyone else do this?

dawnyama · 09-25-2012, 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DelaneyS

so if i added extra protein to my day instead of the night time orange how much would i add??

I do NOT recommend eating more protein. The amounts that Dr Simeon's says to have is just enough. You can eat a half a grapefruit or a handful of strawberries or an apple in place of the orange. Replace that fruit with another fruit.

And I was saying that beef doesn't stall me. But that it may stall someone else. You have to investigate what you cannot have on P2.

dawnyama · 09-25-2012, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DelaneyS

so what do you replace your calorie intake with then?
im not doing melba toast. do you just eat your 2 meals a day? im soooo confused

What are you trying to replace? I am not sure that someone suggested doing so. You replace your orange with another fruit....one that doesn't stall you.

dawnyama · 09-25-2012, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DelaneyS

a gf's dr doubled her dose for the day when she was stuck, does anyone else do this?

Nope have not tried that one. Never heard to do that before.

DelaneyS · 09-25-2012, 04:09 PM

ok then, oranges are out!!

shelbyla · 09-25-2012, 04:11 PM

Lemonmama's suggestion of increasing protein and dropping fruit is NOT protocol. It's fine if you choose to do it--it's just not protocol. IF you choose to go down that path, increase protein enough to make calories up to 500. That will be different with whatever protein you choose. So extra beef has more calories than extra fish so you might have 4oz of beef but 5 oz of fish, instead of your regular portion.

IF YOU WANT TO STAY PROTOCOL...

FIRST, I would swap out the orange for a different fruit. It is the highest glycemic of all the allowed fruits. I usually do one apple and one portion of strawberries, personally.

SECOND, if that doesn't change anything for you, I would swap out the taco seasoning in the beef, especially if it's commercial. A LOT of seasonings and spices have sugar and can cause you to stall. Check all your spices and seasonings as well as any condiments or broths you are using for added sugars or starches. Only if you don't find anything would I swap out the beef for a different protein.

FINALLY, whenever you have leftover calories, the recommendation is to make them up with veggies. You can eat a LOT of veggies for your portion.

Generally speaking, I eat the following and it comes out to almost always 500 calories (I don't eat the melba):

200g protein (7oz)
300g veggies (10.5oz)
400g fruit (14oz)

Lastly, make sure that if you are on homeopathic that you have kept your hcg away from electronics, have not touched the dropper to your mouth or the pellets to your hands, are not using mint, camphor, or tea tree oil, and are not drinking or eating within 15-20 mins of taking your drops. If you are using rx, test your hcg with a cheap pregnancy test to make sure it is still good. In any case, make sure your makeups and lotions are oil free.

HTH. GOOD LUCK!

DelaneyS · 09-25-2012, 04:15 PM

ummm while im asking do you ever use a tomato as your fruit? would you recommend this or not?

shelbyla · 09-25-2012, 04:17 PM

I personally haven't but it can be used either as a fruit or a veggie and still be protocol.

dawnyama · 09-25-2012, 04:36 PM

I have done that. Sometimes when I make P2 chili, I will make it with an onion and a tomato. When I do that, which is not often, I will count the tomato as a fruit.

DelaneyS · 09-25-2012, 04:45 PM

you gals are the best, thanks so much for your tips!!

julieboolie · 09-26-2012, 09:06 AM

I'm in the skip the orange boat. I do apples and strawberries.

How close to "goal" are you? How long is your stall? How long will be your round?

If you're really close to goal, a stall it to be expected. I have recently added half-n-half to my morning coffee to "prime the pump" of losing fat. This is NOT protocol, but since I'm close to "goal" it seems my body needed the added fat to get losing. It was really stalled before I added that.

And this it TMI, but how's the potty situation? Constipation will also cause a stall. While you wait for the scale to catch up, notice the inches that you're losing. Your clothes will tell you you're losing even if the scale is being difficult.

Sleepy · 09-26-2012, 11:33 AM

i would definately "increase" your protein
add some more calories and shake things up a bit
usually leads to a nice loss

DelaneyS · 09-26-2012, 01:57 PM

start weight was 152 goal was 130. iv been stuck on 140 for 5 days and i only have 5 days left

totally discouraged.
What does prime the pump mean? i am so new all these terms are german to me.

julieboolie · 09-30-2012, 09:01 AM

Delaney-how's it going? Are you still stuck? Priming the pump refers to adding some "clean" fats to P2 if you're close to goal and not losing well. The theory is that if you don't have a lot of abnormal fat stores, the added dietary fat helps your body start burning it. Theoretically

. For me? It did help to add half-n-half to my coffee - both psychologically to tide me over, and physically to help me lose and satisfy my hunger. It was a win-win for me

.

You are very close to goal, and have lost 12lbs in 16 days. That's actually pretty good. Stalls are very common, but hopefully you'll be able to drop a few more lbs!! I've only been able to lose 13lbs this round. But, as I'm at goal, I'm ok w. it!! More would have been nice of course

.

09-25-2012, 08:54 AM	#1
DelaneyS Junior LCF Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 12 Gallery: DelaneyS	HELP! plateaued I'm 18 days in and im stuck!! i have lost 12lbs so far and only have a few days left and am i'm getting frustrated I havent even snuck one nibble of anything bad, i've been following protocol and still im plateaued. I am taking 15units daily and a regular day looks like this breakfast: green tea, apple lunch: cod, asparagus dinner: taco beef, lettuce snack: orange im drinking 2L of water daily...... Does anyone have any ideas for me... please help

09-25-2012, 02:29 PM	#6
dawnyama Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Irmo, SC Posts: 21,282 Gallery: dawnyama Stats: 154/???/115 5'4" WOE: Hhcg/Rwhatever P2 Start Date: 6/1/09	After trying the apple day, you should look to your food. I never do the orange. It is just too much sugar for me. I do beef, because it works for me! And I like it. Once you find out what is stalling you, you will move. I know of someone who couldn't eat apples and chicken and lose. She had to cut those 2 out of her P2s to lose. So you might have to sleuth a bit. But more than likely it is something you are eating every day. Or at least when the stall hit. Hope you have kept a food journal. __________________ Dawn in SC

09-25-2012, 04:11 PM	#15
shelbyla Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 4,673 Gallery: shelbyla Stats: 210/141/140 WOE: hhCG, rx hCG Start Date: rx hCG R5 start 08/11/12	Lemonmama's suggestion of increasing protein and dropping fruit is NOT protocol. It's fine if you choose to do it--it's just not protocol. IF you choose to go down that path, increase protein enough to make calories up to 500. That will be different with whatever protein you choose. So extra beef has more calories than extra fish so you might have 4oz of beef but 5 oz of fish, instead of your regular portion. IF YOU WANT TO STAY PROTOCOL... FIRST, I would swap out the orange for a different fruit. It is the highest glycemic of all the allowed fruits. I usually do one apple and one portion of strawberries, personally. SECOND, if that doesn't change anything for you, I would swap out the taco seasoning in the beef, especially if it's commercial. A LOT of seasonings and spices have sugar and can cause you to stall. Check all your spices and seasonings as well as any condiments or broths you are using for added sugars or starches. Only if you don't find anything would I swap out the beef for a different protein. FINALLY, whenever you have leftover calories, the recommendation is to make them up with veggies. You can eat a LOT of veggies for your portion. Generally speaking, I eat the following and it comes out to almost always 500 calories (I don't eat the melba): 200g protein (7oz) 300g veggies (10.5oz) 400g fruit (14oz) Lastly, make sure that if you are on homeopathic that you have kept your hcg away from electronics, have not touched the dropper to your mouth or the pellets to your hands, are not using mint, camphor, or tea tree oil, and are not drinking or eating within 15-20 mins of taking your drops. If you are using rx, test your hcg with a cheap pregnancy test to make sure it is still good. In any case, make sure your makeups and lotions are oil free. HTH. GOOD LUCK! __________________ Pre-hhCG cleanse (P1) - 01/03/2011, 12 days, 210 -> 200 hhCG round 1 - 01/15/2011, 32 days, drops, 10/10/10, 200 -> 175 hhCG round 2 - 04/15/2011, 38 days, drops & pellets, 10/4/10, 177 -> 154 hhCG round 3 - 01/03/2012, 23 days, pellets, 3/3/3, 157 -> 141 _hCG round 4 - 05/05/2012, 24 days, rx hCG, 125IU, 148 -> 136 _hCG round 5 - 08/11/2012, 26 days, rx hCG, 125IU, 159 -> 140

09-26-2012, 09:06 AM	#20
julieboolie Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Sunny AZ Posts: 7,114 Gallery: julieboolie Stats: 272/147.6/140something Size 24/4-6-8/4-6 :) WOE: one day at a time!! LC! Start Date: July 14, 2003 - every day!!	I'm in the skip the orange boat. I do apples and strawberries. How close to "goal" are you? How long is your stall? How long will be your round? If you're really close to goal, a stall it to be expected. I have recently added half-n-half to my morning coffee to "prime the pump" of losing fat. This is NOT protocol, but since I'm close to "goal" it seems my body needed the added fat to get losing. It was really stalled before I added that. And this it TMI, but how's the potty situation? Constipation will also cause a stall. While you wait for the scale to catch up, notice the inches that you're losing. Your clothes will tell you you're losing even if the scale is being difficult. __________________ Julie Prov. 3:5-6 - "He shall direct (my) paths" Daily updates in my journal. Maintenance in the 140's http://www.lowcarbfriends.com/bbs/we...s-journal.html

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode

09-25-2012, 11:26 AM	#3
LaraSuzz Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Tucson, Arizona Posts: 1,777 Gallery: LaraSuzz Stats: baby steps WOE: Dr. Atw Simeons Protocol Start Date: restart 3/5/2012 multiple rounds	Oranges stall me... Taco beef did too... I would do an apple day and see if that gets things moving.... but plateaus can last a long time. Sorry youre having a hard time... did you say youre taking 15 units do you mean 150 iu's?

09-25-2012, 02:23 PM	#5
DelaneyS Junior LCF Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 12 Gallery: DelaneyS	i did an apple day after 2 days of plateau, still nothing. i will try dropping oranges and beef... Ive dropped tomatoes because they stall me too getting a little thin on what i can eat

09-25-2012, 03:18 PM	#7
DelaneyS Junior LCF Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 12 Gallery: DelaneyS	so if i added extra protein to my day instead of the night time orange how much would i add??

09-25-2012, 03:42 PM	#8
manders Senior LCF Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 817 Gallery: manders Stats: 232/167.2/140/5'8 WOE: hHCG Start Date: Feb 2012	I don't think anyone said that you should add extra protein. I THINK Dawn was saying that she does beef for her protein because it works, whereas some people can only do chicken. I personally do not do fruit every day. Too much sugar for me.

09-25-2012, 03:46 PM	#9
DelaneyS Junior LCF Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 12 Gallery: DelaneyS	so what do you replace your calorie intake with then? im not doing melba toast. do you just eat your 2 meals a day? im soooo confused

09-25-2012, 03:52 PM	#10
DelaneyS Junior LCF Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 12 Gallery: DelaneyS	a gf's dr doubled her dose for the day when she was stuck, does anyone else do this?

09-25-2012, 04:09 PM	#14
DelaneyS Junior LCF Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 12 Gallery: DelaneyS	ok then, oranges are out!!

09-25-2012, 04:15 PM	#16
DelaneyS Junior LCF Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 12 Gallery: DelaneyS	ummm while im asking do you ever use a tomato as your fruit? would you recommend this or not?

09-25-2012, 04:17 PM	#17
shelbyla Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 4,673 Gallery: shelbyla Stats: 210/141/140 WOE: hhCG, rx hCG Start Date: rx hCG R5 start 08/11/12	I personally haven't but it can be used either as a fruit or a veggie and still be protocol.

09-25-2012, 04:36 PM	#18
dawnyama Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Irmo, SC Posts: 21,282 Gallery: dawnyama Stats: 154/???/115 5'4" WOE: Hhcg/Rwhatever P2 Start Date: 6/1/09	I have done that. Sometimes when I make P2 chili, I will make it with an onion and a tomato. When I do that, which is not often, I will count the tomato as a fruit.

09-25-2012, 04:45 PM	#19
DelaneyS Junior LCF Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 12 Gallery: DelaneyS	you gals are the best, thanks so much for your tips!!

09-26-2012, 11:33 AM	#21
Sleepy Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 11,268 Gallery: Sleepy	i would definately "increase" your protein add some more calories and shake things up a bit usually leads to a nice loss

09-26-2012, 01:57 PM	#22
DelaneyS Junior LCF Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 12 Gallery: DelaneyS	start weight was 152 goal was 130. iv been stuck on 140 for 5 days and i only have 5 days left totally discouraged. What does prime the pump mean? i am so new all these terms are german to me.

09-30-2012, 09:01 AM	#23
julieboolie Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Sunny AZ Posts: 7,114 Gallery: julieboolie Stats: 272/147.6/140something Size 24/4-6-8/4-6 :) WOE: one day at a time!! LC! Start Date: July 14, 2003 - every day!!	Delaney-how's it going? Are you still stuck? Priming the pump refers to adding some "clean" fats to P2 if you're close to goal and not losing well. The theory is that if you don't have a lot of abnormal fat stores, the added dietary fat helps your body start burning it. Theoretically . For me? It did help to add half-n-half to my coffee - both psychologically to tide me over, and physically to help me lose and satisfy my hunger. It was a win-win for me . You are very close to goal, and have lost 12lbs in 16 days. That's actually pretty good. Stalls are very common, but hopefully you'll be able to drop a few more lbs!! I've only been able to lose 13lbs this round. But, as I'm at goal, I'm ok w. it!! More would have been nice of course .