P2 Simeons Protocol Week of 9-24-2012

[dawnyama]

Ok, folks. I do have rebound weight gain from the apple day today. But I am still happy I did it!! I am not seeing the stall weight on the scale!!! So I am thrilled. Looking forward to what the scale brings tomorrow.

Ladies--after 4 c-sections I know I will never get rid of my tummy pouch. Even at 113 (yes, I got that low on my 3rd round of hhcg) I still had some hanging skin. So it won't go away for me unless I get it cut off. And I have no money to do that. So will have to learn how to disguise it. That is another reason I will not get into a size 2, and while others at my height and current weight can wear a size 2.

[HappyChick]

Natalie-

I found a substitute for that 1 TBS of milk- I just couldn't stomach it anymore..I'm a half and half girl normally.

Yesterday, I started using a Coconut Milk Dairy Free Creamer made by "So Delicious". I had an excellent loss today so, I don't think it's going to hurt me at all.

It lightens the coffee- just like cream and tastes pretty darn good! 0 Fat, 1 Carb per TBS. The carton states 1g of sugar.. it's still less than milk. No way I can do 40 more days without having my coffee; it's something that I really enjoy. And need.

PS- I hate Stevia, too- as well as the rest of them!!

Originally Posted by nspeedracer

Muhahahaha I lost 4 pounds the first day! I don't get nearly that result from the first day of low carb... Takes my whole first weeeeeek of low carb to get that lol...
Totally struggling with this disgusting coffee with one tbs milk and stevia. Not a stevia fan whatsoever.... Anyone use splenda? I can try to get the vanilla creme stevia but I don't know if its that my h better...
Hope everyone is doing well,
Natalie

[Sas]

Dawn - keep us posted. I just read a great thread on stalls and their main focus was...they happen..just keep on truckin..We can DO THIS!

Okay, so I am reading about how important the loads are yada yada yada. I am doing the best I can, but have had issue with constipation and I feel like I am so packed that there isn't anymore room!! Sorry TMI. I blame it on my Mexico trip..I've been messed up since. Will a DETOX Bath help?

This is what I have had so far:
Yesterday - Load Day 1
Breakfast=2 atkins protein bars (38g protein & 24g fat total) & coffee
Lunch=Lemon Basil chicken breast, green beans, mashed potatoes & HUGE cookie
Dinner=Foot Long Tuna Salad sandwich, 2 bags of chips, 2 slices of pizza and a cookie

Today - load Day 2
Breakfast=1 atkins protein bar & coffee (12g fat, 19g protein)
Lunch=Ground Beef Taco Salad, with sour cream, rice, queso and ate the big shell
Snack = Strawb & Creme Frap 17g Fat
Dinner=

Thinking about getting a strawberry thingy at Starbucks...they are FULL of fat.

[manders]

Hey everyone!

Berta & Temeka - Congrats on your losses ladies! I'm super excited for you!

Reddy - Hope everything is okay

Susan - I always feel ridiculously packed full after my loads. Then I literally poop out a small child and I feel so much better. I always make sure to tell my BF all about it I can't believe he still loves me I admit to taking oral laxatives on occasion because I'm in so much pain that I can't even stand it. I will only take a certain brand though because I don't get any cramping with it. I don't think I can post the name here?

Oh, and also, last night I had a caramel frapp at Starbucks and it was SINFUL!!!!

Everyone else - I read all your posts, I just couldn't think of something good enough to reply with!

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I haven't actually eaten yet today. I went against my own promise and got on the scale this morning. 183. I guess that's not horrible. 5lbs from being sick and loading. Oh well. It's interesting how having the runs actually makes you gain weight. No more weighing until Friday morning.

Also, prepare yourself for this announcement... I have decided to go cold turkey with the diet sodas. No more. Only water. I'm terrified. hahahaha I am a bonafide diet soda addict.

[Sas]

Mandy - You go girl!! I hate soda, so that's an easy one for me, but thinking about no coffee. OMG I can't believe I just said it, but was thinking about having one day a week as a treat with coco milk. At least going to give it a try, maybe I will end up drinking more water. I LOL'd at work when I read your post. Lord, I hope that happens soon! I need something to move, and of course my bf says he can help, but I tell him hell to tha no!

[manders]

Originally Posted by Sas

Mandy - You go girl!! I hate soda, so that's an easy one for me, but thinking about no coffee. OMG I can't believe I just said it, but was thinking about having one day a week as a treat with coco milk. At least going to give it a try, maybe I will end up drinking more water. I LOL'd at work when I read your post. Lord, I hope that happens soon! I need something to move, and of course my bf says he can help, but I tell him hell to tha no!

HAHAHAHAH you're killing me over here men are so helpful, eh? not! lol I just hate when he tells ME about HIS bathroom business. gross.

I could never do the no coffee thing. I have 2-3 a day. Keeps me sane and out of prison.

[dawnyama]

manders--brands are ok. Links to them are not. So let us know.....

[manders]

Oh okay. I use Exlax. Sometimes I'll take 1 a day, but then if it's really bad I'll take 2 at night and then in the morning I'm all fixed!

[julieboolie]

Originally Posted by HappyChick

I don't know how old you are and ya don't have to tell me- but, we probably know some of the same families.. I was pretty close to Byberry and Buck Rd.. =)

Ocean City is so nice.. I wish I would have known you then..hahaha! I also wish I would have owned The Circle Liquor Store..lol!! That place made a fortune!! I hung out in Margate most summers- family had a condo on Atlantic.

I'm on Day 6, vlcd4. I thought I was only 5 days in- I had to look at my tracking chart to double check. I think I would have been further along- those darn Eagles made me stress out.. HA! Yea, yea- it's their fault!

I wish my parents still had that hotel too! They sold it when I was 8 (lost their shirts ) and you're so right!! That liquor store did great business! Love the shore. My good friend had a place in LBI and we hung out there a lot in school. I'm 43, and did the Abington schools. Lived right off Huntingdon Pike past Holy Redeemer hospital. Miss Fall there so much!
on the creamer!! Gotta' have my 'jo!

Originally Posted by nspeedracer

Muhahahaha I lost 4 pounds the first day! I don't get nearly that result from the first day of low carb... Takes my whole first weeeeeek of low carb to get that lol...
Totally struggling with this disgusting coffee with one tbs milk and stevia. Not a stevia fan whatsoever.... Anyone use splenda? I can try to get the vanilla creme stevia but I don't know if its that my h better...
Hope everyone is doing well,
Natalie

Nice!! Great loss! I use Splenda and Sweet-n-low. Can't do stevia .

Coffee w. cream= I am so happy that I was able to add it back in successfully!! Makes it much more fun!! Just sayin .

Mandy-that's not all that bad. It'll go back off.

Made chicken soup w. celery and onion and homemade chix broth - so good!! And since I'm not feeling too well, that chick broth really hit the spot!!

Off to run dd's volleyball practice .

[ravr]

I tried not to go too crazy on the carbs yesterday but more of getting some fat. Ive been low carbing about 5 months and I hurled after eating 3 bites of pizza yesterday (just couldnt handle the bloat)... So I focused on fatty meats, olives, avocados.

I am injecting 225 iu at my Dr's recommendation. My Dr says I can load 2-3 days... I hate to load 3 if its making me gain.. Any advice?

Also I am preparing to shop and have meals ready for the next few days...

I sure could use some help.. Im a single guy... Not the best cook..lol

[manders]

Originally Posted by julieboolie

I wish my parents still had that hotel too! They sold it when I was 8 (lost their shirts ) and you're so right!! That liquor store did great business! Love the shore. My good friend had a place in LBI and we hung out there a lot in school. I'm 43, and did the Abington schools. Lived right off Huntingdon Pike past Holy Redeemer hospital. Miss Fall there so much!
on the creamer!! Gotta' have my 'jo!


Nice!! Great loss! I use Splenda and Sweet-n-low. Can't do stevia .

Coffee w. cream= I am so happy that I was able to add it back in successfully!! Makes it much more fun!! Just sayin .

Mandy-that's not all that bad. It'll go back off.

Made chicken soup w. celery and onion and homemade chix broth - so good!! And since I'm not feeling too well, that chick broth really hit the spot!!

Off to run dd's volleyball practice .

Can you post your recipe for this? I'd love to make some. Bringing soup in the fall/winter to work is the best!

Originally Posted by ravr

I tried not to go too crazy on the carbs yesterday but more of getting some fat. Ive been low carbing about 5 months and I hurled after eating 3 bites of pizza yesterday (just couldnt handle the bloat)... So I focused on fatty meats, olives, avocados.

I am injecting 225 iu at my Dr's recommendation. My Dr says I can load 2-3 days... I hate to load 3 if its making me gain.. Any advice?

Also I am preparing to shop and have meals ready for the next few days...

I sure could use some help.. Im a single guy... Not the best cook..lol

Okay, first of all, I LOVE your display pic. Hilarious.

I'm not really knowledgable about injection HCG, but 225 seems kinda high to me? I could be totally off though. Just seems high from what I've seen so far.

You should make some fat bombs. I will find the recipe for you. You could also make some cream cheese clouds.

[buttah]

I've never heard of anyone doing 225iu either. That does seem like a lot. The Simeons dose was 125iu for everyone. My clinic does 150iu for everyone.

But search in the recipe thread. The P2 chili with fire roasted tomatoes is really good, and you can make a double batch (although I get paranoid about diving it evenly). I also put a cabbage and dijon chicken recipe in there that I make almost every day. I like it when the veggies and protein can be cooked all in one pan. And before HCG, I couldn't cook anything!

[manders]

Okay Ravr, here's the fat bomb recipe.


Recipe Ingredients for Fat Bomb
1 cup peanut butter (sugar free)
1 cup coconut oil
1 stick butter
1/4 cup pecan pieces
30 - 35 Stevia drops (or liquid sweetner)
2 squares baker chocolate, unsweetened
2 tbs butter

Recipe Directions for Fat Bomb
Melt PB, butter coconut oil and chocolate til easy to mix. Line 24 tin mini muffin pan with liners or use a silicon pan. Plop a few pecan pieces in the bottom of each liner then fill with the PB, chocolate, oil and butter mixture. Set in the fridge to solidify.

And I'll post the cream cheese cloud recipe in a second...

These are from Linda's Low Carb Menus & Recipes

CREAM CHEESE CLOUDS
8 ounces cream cheese, softened
1/2 cup unsalted butter, softened
1/2-3/4 cup granular Splenda or equivalent liquid Splenda *
1/2 teaspoon vanilla or other flavoring

Beat everything with an electric mixer until fluffy. Drop by bite-size spoonfuls onto a wax paper-lined baking sheet. Freeze until firm, at least 1 hour. Store in the freezer and eat frozen.

Note from Mandy: I would recommend using the 3/4 cup granular splenda and also MAKE SURE it's unsalted butter.

[julieboolie]

Mandy-you're killing me!! I had homemade chicken broth in the freezer already, not sure if you wanted that recipe?

I "sauteed" diced onions and celery in chicken broth first, then threw them into the crock pot. I cut up the chicken breast and sauteed that in some seasonings and more broth, until lightly browned. Threw that in the crock pot then filled w. chicken broth, salt, garlic, onion powder, pinch of cayenne, stir and let it cook all day. It was so good!! The homemade broth really makes it. Warm, yummy and comforting!!

ravr-check out the sticky w/ P2 recipes on there. I love burgers, asian chicken lettuce wraps, P2 chili, and garlic lemon shrimp. You can do it!!

Just took some ibuprofen. Not feeling good . Planning an early bedtime.
See you tomorrow!

[Berta48]

Originally Posted by nspeedracer

Muhahahaha I lost 4 pounds the first day! I don't get nearly that result from the first day of low carb... Takes my whole first weeeeeek of low carb to get that lol...
Totally struggling with this disgusting coffee with one tbs milk and stevia. Not a stevia fan whatsoever.... Anyone use splenda? I can try to get the vanilla creme stevia but I don't know if its that my h better...
Hope everyone is doing well,
Natalie

Yes I use Splenda P&I says we can use artificial sweetners.Truvia is better than Stevia. There is also Xyilotol.But I think that has a bad after taste.May just be me though as I am so use to Splenda.

4lbs? WOW CONGRATULATIONS!!!

[Berta48]

Originally Posted by julieboolie

Mandy-you're killing me!! I had homemade chicken broth in the freezer already, not sure if you wanted that recipe?

I "sauteed" diced onions and celery in chicken broth first, then threw them into the crock pot. I cut up the chicken breast and sauteed that in some seasonings and more broth, until lightly browned. Threw that in the crock pot then filled w. chicken broth, salt, garlic, onion powder, pinch of cayenne, stir and let it cook all day. It was so good!! The homemade broth really makes it. Warm, yummy and comforting!!

ravr-check out the sticky w/ P2 recipes on there. I love burgers, asian chicken lettuce wraps, P2 chili, and garlic lemon shrimp. You can do it!!

Just took some ibuprofen. Not feeling good . Planning an early bedtime.
See you tomorrow!

Hi Julie
I love the PH2 chili and I love the taco salad I have that about three times a week For the taco salad I ust the taco seasoning recipe on the thread here and cook the hamburger thenadd the seasoning and put it on the lettuce with salsa and 2tbs sour cream iI substitute the sour cream for milk.
But it has worked for me(yes I guess I am a bit rouge)

[nspeedracer]

Miralax works for bathroom dilemmas... Takes a couple days but no cramps , it doesn't force it like everything else. It was my saving grace during pregnancy. Exlax is like a punishment...

[ravr]

awesome... thanks for the recipes and advice. My dr said he has most of his patients on 175-200 iu but I am 304 pounds so he mentioned because of my size... that he wanted me to have a little stronger dose....im not sure.

Today was second day of loading. Should I load tomorrow for a 3rd day or go to VLCD1? Id appreciate any tips on what to eat for my first few days of low calorie too....

[nspeedracer]

you on oahu or the big island?
i think you only need 2 load days, but i acidentally did 3
i think tomorrow am ill try iced coffee w milk and back to splenda....

[temekayoung]

Goodmorning!!! Hope everyone is doing well. Yesterday i made fried porkchops, scalloped potatoes and green beans for my husband.. well the pork chop was calling me so i cut a piece off not alot but i felt really guilty. I was dreading getting up this morning.

I LOST 1 LB DESPITE MY PORKCHOP WEAKNESS..

I think i have to put my husband on a diet so i dont sabatoge mine...lol.

HAPPY RELEASES!!!

[shelbyla]

Originally Posted by ravr

awesome... thanks for the recipes and advice. My dr said he has most of his patients on 175-200 iu but I am 304 pounds so he mentioned because of my size... that he wanted me to have a little stronger dose....im not sure.

Today was second day of loading. Should I load tomorrow for a 3rd day or go to VLCD1? Id appreciate any tips on what to eat for my first few days of low calorie too....

Welcome Ravr!

I agree the dose is very high. If you find yourself hungry, think about scaling back. Too much hcg is often worse than too little and it will manifest itself as hunger.

Here are some recipes. The skillet meals are great and fill you up. One pan, just a couple of ingredients--my favorite!

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Salad dressings:

Start with...
2T broth (beef, chicken or veggie)
2T apple cider or red wine vinegar
1/4t salt
1/4t pepper

For Italian add...
1t Italian seasoning
1/4t garlic powder
1/4t onion powder

For honey mustard add...
1T mustard (yellow or brown but check ingredients for sugar)
5 drops plain stevia or 1/2 packet Splenda or Sweet 'n Low

For a creamier dressing use...
2T Walden Farms Caesar, Ranch or Blue Cheese dressing in place of one T of broth and one T vinegar

For a different taste use...
2T orange juice, lemon juice or lime juice in place of the vinegar

Switch up spices. I like...
1t curry or
1t shallot pepper or
1t dill or
1t sage or
1t cumin

"Skillet" meals:
(if you are NOT eating the grissini/melba, increase your evening veggie portion to 200g/7oz)

Broth 1/4-1/2c, depending on how saucy you like it
Chicken
Beef
Veggie

Protein 100g/3.5oz raw
chicken breast
lean ground beef
shrimp
crab meat
langostino tails

Veggie 100g/3.5oz raw
Belgian endive
Cabbage
Bok choy
Celery
Chinese cabbage

Spices
Onion powder
Garlic powder
Salt
Pepper

plus...
Italian - 1T Italian seasoning (works best with chicken or beef plus endive or cabbage)
Mexican - 1T chili powder, 1t cumin, couple of dashes tobasco or tapatio (works best with chicken or beef plus cabbage or endive)
Asian - 1T soy sauce or Braggs liquid aminos (works with all)
Lemon pepper - 1t lemon pepper, 1T fresh lemon juice (work best with chicken or seafood plus any veggie)

Add broth to skillet. Add veggie and spices and cook to just before desired doneness. Add raw protein and cook until done (the protein cooks so fast that it's best to add it at the end). Optional: sprinkle with Guar or Xanthan gum (available at most healthfood stores) in a salt shaker for a thicker sauce--a little goes a VERY long way so sprinkle with caution! **DO NOT OVERDO AS IT IS A STARCH AND COULD STALL YOU.

Panfried White Roughy

Sprinkle a filet of Swai (white roughy--available at Ralph's and TJ's), grouper, cod, orange roughy or other white fish with salt and pepper. Heat skillet until hot. Add fish. Cook on one side for 3 mins. Flip and cook until fish flakes easily--about 2 more minutes. Serve with salad or stirfried veggies.

[lexi123]

Originally Posted by dawnyama

Ok, folks. I do have rebound weight gain from the apple day today. But I am still happy I did it!! I am not seeing the stall weight on the scale!!! So I am thrilled. Looking forward to what the scale brings tomorrow.

Ladies--after 4 c-sections I know I will never get rid of my tummy pouch. Even at 113 (yes, I got that low on my 3rd round of hhcg) I still had some hanging skin. So it won't go away for me unless I get it cut off. And I have no money to do that. So will have to learn how to disguise it. That is another reason I will not get into a size 2, and while others at my height and current weight can wear a size 2.

I feel ya - I just invest in spanx! lol.

[Sas]

Morning all! Ok VLCD1 for me. Only gained a lb in loading, but still nothing moving on the tummy issues. I have tried over the counter pills and those never work on me. I could take a whole box of exlax and nothing would happen. If I have coco oil in my coffee every morning, that seems to do the trick. So I am sipping on coffee now after I said I wouldn't, but damn, I seriously look pg!! Someout there pray for me! LOL

Temeka - I see you doing the happy dance! I hope I am doing one tomorrow!

Ravr - Welcome to the group! If you see me say good morning ladies on accident....call me out! LOL Good lUck to you buddy!

Shelby - Thanks for the recipes! Looks delicious!! As for meals, I'm blessed here in Houston. There is a business that strictly makes HCG meals. I just order for the week and pick them up. No cooking!! Gourmet Diet Meals Delivered | HCG – Low Calorie Diet Plan | Houston

nspeedracer - Good Morning! Thanks for the suggestion. Gonna just wait a bit longer and see what happens. Too bad I can't button any pants. Had to wear a dress today so ppl don't ask when I am due.

Julie - I hope you're feeling better this morning!

Berta - morning! I am ready to start this round! Let's go!

Mandy, Dawn & buttah - Hola ladies!

Have a meeting to attend...BORING. I hope my booty fits on the chair. I will catch up with ev1 else later!!

[buttah]

sas, have you tried Sennokot tablets (natural senna laxative that is what works in Smooth Move tea?)

Even better... Natural Calm (magnesium citrate). Worked like a charm for me, almost immediately, and every day since I started taking it. Also helps you sleep like a baby (take at night - your body NEEDS the magnesium).

Ex lax is really not good for you, anyway! Miralax is less bad for you, but both are extremely addicting. Those muscles get used to needing a shove.

Lexi, Spanx are great, but they sure don't lift my tummy skin up back where it came from. All they do is smash my pouch down, but not enough. Thing has to come off. C-sections suck.

Temeka, good for you!

Berta, you're a losing machine. And I need to find that taco salad recipe! (But do you really use SOUR CREAM on P2? You are so brave!)

Shelby, what is the "italian seasoning" recipe? Sorry if I missed it!

Everyone I've missed - so sorry. I'll catch you later when I'm awake.

Well, I'm finally down a BIT this morning. Phew. Not a whoosh, but still... down. Will post the exact number once I've done my morning coffee/bathroom routine (when I always get my official weight).

[ravr]

Wow.. What an awesome group ! I know I am going to have a great round !! I will make today VLCD1 and load for 2 days not 3. Excited !

NSpeedRacer... I see you are in Hawaii too. Im on north shore Kauai..The most amazing place on earth

Shelby.. Thanks Those are some awesome recipes....

Sas.. Thanks

[buttah]

Okay, folks, here it is:

8/30 - 169.5 LOAD DAY 1
8/31 - ??? LOAD DAY 2
9/01 - VLCD1 172.8 +3.3 after loading
9/02 - VLCD2 169.5 -3.3 (lost all of loading)
9/03 - VLCD3 167.1 -2.4 (-5.7 from load w)
9/04 - VLCD4 165.8 -1.3 (-6 from load w, 3.7 from pre-load)
9/05 - VLCD5 165.1 -0.7 (-4.4 from pre-load)
9/06 - VLCD6 164.1 -1.0 (-5.4 from pre-load)
9/07 - VLCD7 164.0 -0.1 (-5.5 from pre-load) (injected 125iu)
9/08 - VLCD8 163.0 -1.0 (-6.5 from pre-load)
9/09 - VLCD9 163.? (can't remember, possibly up .4 or STS)
9/10 - VLCD10 163 (back to 150iu, better day hunger wise)
9/11 - VLCD11 162.8 -0.2
9/12 - VLCD12 161.4 -1.4 (SM tea helped)
9/13 - VLCD13 161.4 STS (predicted post-SM tea "stall")
9/14 - VLCD14 STS is my guess
9/15 - VLCD15 160.7 -0.7
9/16 - VLCD16 160.3 -0.4
9/17 - VLCD17 160.0
9/18 - VLCD18 160.0
9/19 - VLCD19 159.0
9/20 - VLCD20 159.3 (didn't even post yesterday; hoping to make a point to scale addicts)
9/21 - VLCD21 158.4 (and THAT'S the point! - it's the TREND that matters, NOT the day)
9/22 - VLCD22 STS
9/23 - VLCD23 STS
9/24 - VLCD24 STS
9/25 - VLCD25 STS
9/26 - VLCD26 157.7 YAYYYYYY!

Not exactly a whoosh, but something! And yesterday I skipped one fruit and both "breads" but had a 1/4 cup of low fat cottage cheese between dinner and bedtime (when I usually have the second fruit). Robin has been suggesting the cottage cheese for me. My body felt so grateful. It needs more protein, I just know it. Will do the same again today.

[ravr]

Wow BUttah ! You did amazing !!!

[julieboolie]

Buttah- I'm so glad you're down!! WOOHOO!! I think your body liked that extra protein . Good for you sticking w. it through the stall!! So hard!!

Ravr-you'll do great. I agree w. the others. If huger is a problem, ask for a lower dose. If not, you're doing great!!

Berta-you're a losing machine!! WTG!!

Sas-sorry for your troubles. It'll straighten itself out. I second the magnesium. That plus my morning coffee=success! Looking forward to hearing of your successful losses!!

Tameka-you're doing fine. If you had pork and are down - go w. it!!

I'm up a lb today . I'm assuming it's either too much salt in my yummy soup yesterday, the stupid cold, or just delayed water retention from Monday night's softball game. Whatever it is, I'm looking forward to it leaving. I had 4+ mugs of hot tea last night for my throat and maybe my kidneys just couldn't keep up w. all that liquid? I broke down and took a sudafed this morning. It's helping some .

Have a great hump day everyone!!

[dbunny]

Morning all... Down 4 pounds this morning. Woot! VLCD 2 is underway
I have to get back into the swing of things, will catch up on this thread and try to 'participate' more .. hope everyone has a swell day!

[julieboolie]

Originally Posted by dbunny

Morning all... Down 4 pounds this morning. Woot! VLCD 2 is underway
I have to get back into the swing of things, will catch up on this thread and try to 'participate' more .. hope everyone has a swell day!

Nice drop!! So glad you're doing well!!