P2 Simeon's Protocol Week of 9/17

[MaryN]

Lexi thanks for the welcome. I wasn't planning anything so agressive, Hmmm I might just have to think about doing a detox bath, and do you mean the Mag Citrate in the bottle? I was just meaning a clean P2 (I always use a little hnh in my coffee once a day which I would probably keep in P2) which I think is a pretty good detox from all my other little cheats. Would you mind telling me more of your plan. I was going to start loading on Sat. Did you detox before loading?

Also what is Kombucha?

[Reddy]

Foxy, both myself and Buttah had some major hunger issues when we started.

Turned out we had to adjust our doses to get it right. Sadly I didn't figure out the proper dose until the 3rd week.

I was taking 25u, then I upped it to 28u and still was ravenous but when I got to 30u, by the 3rd day the hunger finally went away.

You should NOT be hungry on this and if you are, something is wrong. Most likely your dose!

[buttah]

Foxy, unless we know how exactly Reddy's hcg was mixed, we don't know for certain how many units = international units she had/has, but the main point is so important. You shouldn't be hungry. If you are, something's wrong. And both Reddy and myself needed MORE not less HCG. So you never know.

[shelbyla]

Originally Posted by Foxyvixen

Hello,

I'm a newbie to this website & I actually joined so I could get some help. I've been on the HCG drops and P2 diet for 7 days now and I am not just hungr, but, ravenous!! My fiance is over twice my size (he started at 380 lb), started the same time as me and eating only 500 calories a day & he's doing great! I've lost about 5 lb and he's lost about 12 lb in the 7 days so far. We are both taking drops from the same bottle/company, so, why am I so hungry?! All the time, too! I drink my recommended amount of water 80 oz plus some and drink 2 glasses of green tea, space my meals ans snacks and drops out well, but, I actually have severe hunger pains and I feel like I'm starving all the time & my fiance feels fine!

I don't know what else to do! I have a physical job so I've tried increasing my meat portions & servings to 3 times a day last night, and today I gained 0.6 lb and I stalled the day before that! I feel like crying a lot lately because everyone else I know who's on the diet said their hunger went away after 2-3 days! I was hoping this diet was going to help as want to lose another 45 lb, but, I'm soo confused and frustrated! If anyone has any ideas what is going on with me please share your info. Thank you all in advance!

Ok a couple of questions and then maybe we can help! It sux to be hungry!

- Are you doing rx drops or homeopathic?
- How many times day are you dosing and how many drops each time?
- How long do you wait before and after the time you take the drops to the time you eat or drink anything?
- Have you touched the dropper to your tongue, lips or skin ever?
- If you are on homeopathic, have you kept your drops away from electronics including your cell phone, computer, etc.?
- If you are on homeopathic, are you still using anything with mint or camphor or tea tree?
- Have you eliminated lotions and oils from your personal products?
- What was your diet like immediately before starting? (e.g. were you low calorie, low carb, eat the standard American diet--SAD, etc.)
- Did you load well and on what?

Originally Posted by lexi123

Mary - welcome. Quick Question tell me about your plan to Detox while on P2. I did a detox diet/cleanse right before I found hcg and thought is was great (I just didn't lose weight). So now that I am old pro with hcg I have been thinking about incorporating some of those detox things. For instance, today I substituded a Kombucha for a fruit. Also, thinking about doing a detox bath and will probably take Mag Citrate tonight.

I'm not Mary (obviously) but I did a detox right before my first round and I do think it set me up well for success. During a round, I always take supplements (non-oil, non-rice-flour containing) including plenty of magnesium. I also use epsom salt baths frequently and drink lots and lots of lemon water and water with a little added ACV for detox purposes.

[manders]

Hey everyone!

I'm sad to see so many of y'all struggling. Sometimes it's honestly best to just stop, drop and roll! I know that I REALLY needed to have my last modified fat fast and my vacation eating to really regroup. I am about as focused right now as I was when I started this journey in Feb. I hope all of you will still come peek in and give words of encouragement!

Haven't been on in like 2 days. Had some craziness at work. I barely ate yesterday because I was so busy and I actually felt put off by the idea of food. I think that's the first time I've ever felt like that in my entire life (except for when I'm hungover)

I STS yesterday and weighed in at 178.0 this morning. So a 2.2 pound loss. That's a virgin number for me, but since I only ate about 200 calories yesterday, I won't be surprised if I STS or gain a tiny bit tomorrow. I haven't really eaten much today either. It's 4pm and I just had my first salad with shrimp. I hope me not having a real desire to eat is just a result of the HCG and not anything else... Not ready for THAT!

[julieboolie]

Originally Posted by adelinesdream

Shelby, I like your transition it's very efficient, leaves no guessing. I'm at 163.4 today up .2 lbs. I am messing with too much sugar free stuff. Set me free from sugar free. I'm having a planned interruption day for DH birthday saturday. He doesn't know we have tickets to the philly's game whoo hoo

OMG I typed a bunch of stuff and it disappeared. my new goal is 134. can it happen? I've been in denial too long but after looking at my photos in bra and underwear, I went, this needs to change. These are going to be weekly bra and underwear progress pics. It's painful to look at them and to start them, but it has to be done to light a fire under my butt. I miss YOU GUYS~! I need more breakthroughs and the stick to it ness to go further and not give up!! WE CAN DO THIS!!!

Love the Phillies!! Have a blast!! nice to see you, btw!! and undie pics? That's a scary prospect . Good for you!! Aim for your new goal and re-evaluate as you get closer! I'd love to hit 140, but this round isn't going as swimmingly as I'd hoped, so I'll be content w. wherever I land .

Shelby-thanks! I will give that a whirl this time. Certainly beats 500cals 2 days in a row. (I usually add cream to my morning coffee those days as my little rebellious streak).

Cocoa- glad you're back in power. Sounds like you're doing well after your PI. Good job!

foxy and Mary!

Foxy-I was starving my first round on hhcg drops. Try mixing up your dose. As Shelby posted, more info would be good. I switched to teh pellets in subsequent rounds and did much better w. those.

Made beef lettuce wraps for lunch. Something different. Haven't had much chicken this round. I need to add that in more. Hmm.

[dawnyama]

Reporting in for the day kinda late, but I am up today. Not by much, but still....disappointing. I am not sure why either. Did nothing different. If I see the same number on the scale tomorrow (128) I myself will be doing an apple day. I am not sure if i will do it on Friday or Sat. I cannot stand to see the same dang number on the scale day after day. Just frustrating is all!!!! Hopefully the scale moves for me tomorrow!!!

[Reddy]

Hi All, My mind is feeling foggy tonight so forgive me for not individually addressing you all like I usually do.

I just don't feel great. (TOM came today) and I'm sort of still cranky feeling over the whole HCG situation.

I'm also hungry but I still have a veggie and a fruit left so I should be fine to get trhough the night. I wanted to make cabbage soup but I don't know that I have the energy right now. Granted, it's pretty easy but that's how much I want to just lay on the couch right now.

Maybe when I'm hungry enough I will... lol. HOpe you are all doing well... and I'm crossing my fingers for good numbers for everyone tomorrow!

[dawnyama]

Originally Posted by MaryN

Thank you so much. I forgot to do that!!! It is updated now.

sweetie!!! You look marvelous Nice to have you back.

[Stevie Renee]

Welcome Foxy. Looks like you are getting some solid answers. Hope it all settles soon.

Shelby,
thanks for posting. That is what I was told for my coaching too. Just wanted too compare notes. lol

Hi all!

Nice pix of you Mary

[Viola De Lesseps]

Oh, the first few days are hard!! I was super hungry this afternoon, & was stuck in a meeting w/donuts & m&m mix. My coworker teased me about my grissini "snack"... lol. I was good, & didnt cheat. An apple & tea left for this evening

Mary- the new pic looks great!

Reddy- I hope tomorrow is better for ya!

Dawn- Sorry about the gain... you'll bounce back down. You are an hcg rockstar after all

[riss]

viola - glad your headache let up

reddy - sorry that you're up, TOM is probably the culprit, if you feel it's time to call the round then I think you should go with your gut, enjoy the game and have some vodka/wine if you want, then you can regroup after and figure it out from there

lara - being weak to the point of needing to lie down is not a good feeling so I sure hope you're not still like that, sorry about the yucky detox rash, sounds like you know a lot more than your clinic but I wonder about some of the clinics out there?, don't feel guilty about any part of this round, you've still done well to get through it and you can always come back later when you're feeling better

shelbyla - it sounds like you found a good plan for you to stabilize, where did you find out about that one? I've bene curious about the Kruse leptin reset but figure I've still got quite some time til I'm close to P3

VTmommy - WELCOME back and hope it goes well

buttah - WOOHOO for the 150s!!

stevie - too funny about your DH and the hunger scale

julie - sorry you're up, probably TOM's fault

lexi123 - WELCOME and hope you do great

cocoa - what a crazy dream about rice/eggs??, I rarely remember any of my dreams

foxyvixen - from what I've read on here that some ladies went through it does sound like your dose might need adjusting

mary - WELCOME and hope you drop those pounds

adelinesdream - I think a ball game like that is a great choice for a PI

manders - down 2.2 lbs is great

dawn - hope tomorrow is better

For me this morning I STS. I didn't do so well today though. I was fine in the early part of the day. Breakfast was just coffee with vanilla cream stevia again. Lunch was chili from ground beef and tomatoes. I drank a crazy amount of water and was doing well. Then I got a call from my mother needing me to take my oldest nephew to the doctor b/c she couldn't. I had to go in the opposite direction from home. We ended up at Applebee's for dinner. We did the 2 for $20 and I got the steak with veggie medley and potato. I only had 1 bite of the potato and picked the zucchini out of the medley while leaving the broccoli and carrots. I only had part of the steak and boxed the rest up. Where I went wrong was with the boneless wing appetizer - at first I only ate a few of the celery sticks but then I caved and had 4 of the wings, now I could kick myself

[lexi123]

Originally Posted by MaryN

Lexi thanks for the welcome. I wasn't planning anything so agressive, Hmmm I might just have to think about doing a detox bath, and do you mean the Mag Citrate in the bottle? I was just meaning a clean P2 (I always use a little hnh in my coffee once a day which I would probably keep in P2) which I think is a pretty good detox from all my other little cheats. Would you mind telling me more of your plan. I was going to start loading on Sat. Did you detox before loading?

Also what is Kombucha?

Mary- I did the clean program by dr junger to detox. While i didn't lose weight on it I learned so much. They have a website all free that helped. So I learned about ridding your body of toxins and detoxing methods. There is this one detox bath that is Epsom salt and ginger and omg is it powerful. Detoxing before p2 helped me with hunger and cravings and made me more in tune with my body. I only did it before my first round. I also learned that you can take the supplement magnesium citrate and that helps with headaches and constipation.

Kombucha is this drink that you can get at whole foods. It is in many flavors I stick with the lowest sugar ones. Kombucha is fermented tea that has tons of probiotics and health benefits. It is an acquired taste fair warning. A whole bottle is 60 cals and 14 carbs- that is why I sub it for fruit.
warning:
I would never say I am 100% strict p2. I was my first few rounds and now I know what works for me. I mix p2 veggies and I eat turkey breast. I try not to eat anything too sweet as I know that is my downfall.

Hope this helps.

[LaraSuzz]

Hi Guys. I'm down 1.2 this am (figures whenever I decide to stop I loose) and today is my last vlcd day. I might up the protein later. Still not feeling well... just havent been getting enough sleep. I plan to go home and be in bed fairly early today... after shopping for some HWC and a few items. I have 2.2 pounds to play with as far as liw. =) happy to eat real food but wont overdo it.

have a good day all!Lara

[Reddy]

Right there with you Lara! Today is my last VLcD starting p3 tomorrow!

Back down to .2 over LDW so that's good. Hopefully I'll be down even more tomorrow morning so I have some wiggle room for the game Sat!

Hope you all had a visit from the wooster fairly last night!

[buttah]

Lara and Reddy, way to go!

Is everyone leaving P2 soon? Seems like it. It's going to be lonely for me - hanging in for 20 more days. Who is with me?!

Reddy, do you not do the three VLCD days without injections? Or did you stop injecting and I missed it?

[Reddy]

Originally Posted by buttah

Lara and Reddy, way to go!

Is everyone leaving P2 soon? Seems like it. It's going to be lonely for me - hanging in for 20 more days. Who is with me?!

Reddy, do you not do the three VLCD days without injections? Or did you stop injecting and I missed it?

My Last Injection was on Tuesday. So Tuesday, Wed, Thursday are my 72hours. That means tomorrow morning I start P3

I decided not to dose yesterday after my weight went up 1.2lbs. I decided I was done. So I did VLCD yesterday and today (and on my LID) and thats it!

Don't worry about being Lonely! I'll come check up on ya!

[LaraSuzz]

Originally Posted by Reddy

Right there with you Lara! Today is my last VLcD starting p3 tomorrow!

Back down to .2 over LDW so that's good. Hopefully I'll be down even more tomorrow morning so I have some wiggle room for the game Sat!

Hope you all had a visit from the wooster fairly last night!

I am so ready for p3. I cant wait to wake up tomorrow for some eggs. Gonna try to keep it under control.

Originally Posted by buttah

Lara and Reddy, way to go!

Is everyone leaving P2 soon? Seems like it. It's going to be lonely for me - hanging in for 20 more days. Who is with me?!

Reddy, do you not do the three VLCD days without injections? Or did you stop injecting and I missed it?

I think there are some peeps coming to start p2 soon. Dont worry I will still be around. you can do it!

Please lord let me get through this day. I just feel like I couldnt run away right now even if my life depended on it lol.
Maybe I will try to get a large iced tea.
Lol where are the withered away smiley faces when you need them?

[buttah]

Glad you're hanging, Lara. And HANG IN THERE!

Reddy, I will miss you so much. Please come back and visit.

[Reddy]

Originally Posted by buttah

Glad you're hanging, Lara. And HANG IN THERE!

Reddy, I will miss you so much. Please come back and visit.

Don't worry, I'm going to be right around the corner in the P3/P4 thread and checking up on you and reading all of your Wise Words because you have soooo much knowledge it's admittedly overwhelming! But I'm going to need to check in with my "twin" he he he!

And before you know it, you'll be joining me over in P3/P4 land too!

[cocoapeanut]

Originally Posted by buttah

Is everyone leaving P2 soon? Seems like it. It's going to be lonely for me - hanging in for 20 more days. Who is with me?!

I'm still in for another 14 days, including today. Plus two days VLCD no dosing. So not quite 20, but I'm here most of the time

[lexi123]

I will be here for at least 20 days...hoping for more!

[julieboolie]

Originally Posted by buttah

Lara and Reddy, way to go!

Is everyone leaving P2 soon? Seems like it. It's going to be lonely for me - hanging in for 20 more days. Who is with me?!

Reddy, do you not do the three VLCD days without injections? Or did you stop injecting and I missed it?

You're doing a looonnng round!! that's very smart, especially your first one. We all lose best our first round (of any diet I think). WTG!!
I've got 10 more days, so I'll be here a while longer. I think Stevie is still going a while too. I will be happy to lose 2 more lbs, which I'm pretty confident will happen. Anything below that will be uncharted, exciting, new territory for me!! I am prepared to be content with wherever I land.

Reddy-glad you're transitioning. Enjoy that cream and GY for me!! I dont' miss all the rest too much, yet . I did have a splash of half and half in my coffee this morning. I know, very bad Julie. But, it didn't hurt me yesterday and makes it so much more enjoyable for me. The cals come out the same, and it's more like a higher amt of the allowable milk (rationalizing it in my own head).

Riss-bummer Hope you're not set back too much from that! How'd the scale go today? Hopefully you have time left (what day are you? same as me?) to get that back off and then some. You can do it. right back to plan.

Dawn- I hear ya'! Hope you're down today!! Stalls stink

Lara-sorry you're not feeling well How 'bout this one? That kinda' covers it. Tomorrow you eat!! Have some fat and feel better!! You've been at this a long time!! Looking forward to joining you in P3 in a week or so.
I am happy to report that the whoosh finally came! Down 2.2 overnight!! 147.4 this morning! Ya gotta' love hormones and exercise water retention!! But, gonna' keep the walking and softball as part of my normal life, and hope the fluctuations settle down.

I'm down 2.2! Nice!! Finally! I'm sure it's just the water from TOM and exercise leaving. I felt good all along and am trying to take it all in stride this time around. I know the scale isn't always an accurate reflection of the fat loss. But it sure is nice when it tells you what you want to hear . I have 1 pair of jeans that fit, but not comfortably just yet. They say 2% spandex, but I've yet to discover it!! I'd like them to fit well by the end. I'm choosing and preparing myself to be content with wherever I land. I know it'll be my lowest weight as an adult. I saw 145.6 one day last round (last VLCD before P3) and it was nice. I'd like 145 to be my LDW this round, but we'll see what comes. Only 2.4 from today's weight. I've got 10 days. That's not unreasonable, right?

[riss]

lara/reddy - glad you're both down today and hoping P3 goes well

buttah - I'm still in P2 and will be through mid Oct

julie - 2.2 lbs woosh is nice that is awesome that you're approaching a new low
I think we did start around the same time but I'm doing the long round this time so I'm sure hoping to get some pounds off and quit screwing it up


I was up 1.5 lb this morning but I know it's my own fault for going off plan. Today I'm back on and hoping to undo the damage quickly.

[dawnyama]

Originally Posted by Viola De Lesseps

Oh, the first few days are hard!! I was super hungry this afternoon, & was stuck in a meeting w/donuts & m&m mix. My coworker teased me about my grissini "snack"... lol. I was good, & didnt cheat. An apple & tea left for this evening

Mary- the new pic looks great!

Reddy- I hope tomorrow is better for ya!

Dawn- Sorry about the gain... you'll bounce back down. You are an hcg rockstar after all

Thanks...but I was not back down today. I am sure I gained. I don't know.....I got like 5 different numbers on the scale I SHOULD just stick to my first weigh in number and skip the 3 more times I weigh in First number was excellent, but the next like 4 were still 128 something. Nothing else to do but continue with plan and check my weight in the morning.

Good on ya for resisting. My neighbor brought over donuts last night because they got them free! It was talk like a pirate day at Krispy Kreme and they got them for free My DH took 1 for each of us. Now we have 6 in the kitchen. I don't go off plan for those, thank goodness but still.........Now if she had brought chocolate chip cookies we might have a problem

[LaraSuzz]

Nice loss Julie!!

That used to happen to me Dawn, then I bought a glass scale at Costco and its very study so worth the $40.00.

Thanks Riss, I pray that I sts starting Friday lol.

back to work, meh.

[buttah]

I have a Trimmer digital scale that NEVER varies. Bought on Amazon.

[Viola De Lesseps]

Afternoon, all!

Lara & Reddy- I hope you two have a great (&stable!!) P3

Buttah- Im on VLCD4... looong way to go

Julie, Nice drop!!

Riss- today is a new day!!

Dawn- mine does that sometimes... I was going to but one at Costco, but I had to buy a new food scale this round :/ Lame! Why doesnt stuff just work right?!

~~
I'm down. 4 which is just fine! Feeling a little cranky & a little hungry, but it's tolerable!!

[HappyChick]

I'll be here, too- started R2 of a planned 40 day round. Loading, Loading, Loading... not sure how many days. Probably only 2.

[julieboolie]

Happychick-weren't you just on P2? Wow! Enjoy loading!! (definitely my favorite part ).

Dawn- Sorry you're not down . Hang in there. Yes, yesterday was "national talk like a pirate day" matey, and KK was giving away free donuts. We're all GF or dieting, so we skipped it. But man, those used to be a downfall for me. Right out of the oven, hot and yummy!! Sigh. One day I'll have ONE again. I'm w. you on the scale. I have a Tanita that's been with me for years. It's partially broken (the "handle" to push it to turn it on broke years ago, you have to tap this little button w. your toe-tricky, but doable) but I am afraid to get a new one. What if it says I weigh more? I do question it's reliability as I'll get lots of variety in my #'s. First one is usually the best, not sure why I keep double checking it!

Riss-that's not too bad. All water, it'll go. Hang in there!! Good for you doing a long round!! I just get so bored on P2. And get tired of avoiding "life" after 3 weeks. If I could go away to a deserted island and do P2 all by myself, then I could probably go 40 days. Sigh.

Just got my car back - aligned, rotated and balanced, transmission fluid flushed and changed, synth oil change and motor mount replaced . Not as expensive as I expected. Thank God! Car's got 140K miles on it and still going strong . Thankful for the little things!!