P2 Simeon's Protocol Week of 9/10

[Reddy]

Originally Posted by LaraSuzz

Ok guys I need some help. On July 20th I went to the doctor and I asked them to call in my prescription but wait until I called in to actually fill it... and so I waited until August 1st to call and get it filled. When I called they said it was ready and I was a little upset so I asked them to remix it so that it will be potent longer and they said that they did, but this morning my first vlcd was 1.6 down... usually I'm down like 4 lbs on my first day. Do you think I should worry? It would be 9 weeks since it was mixed if they didnt mix a fresh batch. The bottle says valid until 9/30/12. It would be 7 weeks old if they made a new batch.

I will call them but they open at 10am, I'm worried guys. I don't feel right and I dont know if its my imagination.

I could go to the doc and get it refilled but it will cost 50$...

this is injections... any advice?

~Lara

Not sure but what do you mean you don't feel right? Are you ok?

You did a PI right? Perhaps that could be a factor in why you didn't lose as much on d1?

Did you load this time?

[LaraSuzz]

Originally Posted by Reddy

Not sure but what do you mean you don't feel right? Are you ok?

You did a PI right? Perhaps that could be a factor in why you didn't lose as much on d1?

Did you load this time?

I feel super cranky and tired, lol. Even though I went to bed at 9pm last night but I did get up at 4am...

I did a two week planned interruption. Maybe I will just hang in to get back to my last liw and then quit? I just think that day one should have been better. I'm dissapointed in myself with the fact that I was 3 over liw... then add 5 loading and thats 8 over my lowest I just feel like a failure if the weight doesnt come off fast like my last first week I was down 15 lbs.

so I'm blaming it on the meds... could it be the potency?

Yes~ I loaded for one day and gained 5 lbs. Thats what Weight Loss Apocolypse book said to do. Normally I wouldnt have loaded.

I just thought of something... yesterday I had a follow up mamogram from a biopsy 6 months ago so its possible stress could have affected my first day. If tomorrow is just as bad then I will assume its the meds maybe? And I took my birth control pill late monday... maybe thats why I feel icky.

[Reddy]

It's hard to say it could be any of those things. This round has been completely different for me than last time! I'm starving and I'm not losing much! Not sure if it's hCG or my body or what but im trying to push through it. I haven't lost very much and I'm into my second week! Give it a couple days.,

[LaraSuzz]

Originally Posted by Reddy

It's hard to say it could be any of those things. This round has been completely different for me than last time! I'm starving and I'm not losing much! Not sure if it's hCG or my body or what but im trying to push through it. I haven't lost very much and I'm into my second week! Give it a couple days.,

I really understand how you;'re feeling! I don't want to give in to this mental torture. I dont think planned interruptions are good for me. well I will stick it out I guess nothing else I can do.
Hang in there. I just have a feeling its the hcg.

[hhcg_lowcarb]

Originally Posted by dawnyama

Reddy--we won't discuss my day. TOM started for me yesterday and it was not the best P2 day for me. I didn't even weigh in. That is how this morning went. Didn't want to see the numbers.

I won't be around tomorrow either. I have work really early and then I am involved in a 9/11 service in the evening. My brother was one of those who was killed in the World Trade Center. So I participate in my local 9/11 services. We have a memorial here in Columbia made from the WTC beams of the building where my brother worked. It is kinda neat to have that here in my town. Anyway, I will share pics the day after. I did last year. So you all keep on keeping on and I will report in later this week!!!

Dawn,
Thinking of you and your family today

[julieboolie]

Lara- 1.6 after a PI is quite good, I think. A PI isn't a real P3/P4 where your body rests, is well fed and recharges so it's all ready to lose well again. It's just a pause button until you go back to VLCDs. I had a full P3/P4 and 10lbs of loading weight and I only lost 1.6 my first VLCD yesterday. The weight you regained during your break will go, but not overnight. That's how it's been for me too. I dont' re-lose as quickly as I regain . But, hang in there. Relax and give it some time. Your hcg is probably fine (but I don't know much about Rx). I do gather from most reports that PIs are very tough and usually not very successful for significant losses longer term. I'd prob shoot for LDW or lower and then see how you feel.

Reddy- I feel for you!! I do have to admit I'd love to be 3lbs below my LDW of last round by day 8!! You are likely seeing the slower losses as you have little left to lose. That's both a blessing and curse.

I'm down 1.6 for my first day. I was kinda' hoping for more, as my LDW was 147, and I'm still at 155 today . But, down it still better than up and I feel pretty good. Nice energy, temps high (I take my temp each morning as a measure of my metabollic health-personal thing) and minimal hunger. I can manage. Black coffee does help!!

Have a great day ladies!!

[Reddy]

Originally Posted by julieboolie

Lara- 1.6 after a PI is quite good, I think. A PI isn't a real P3/P4 where your body rests, is well fed and recharges so it's all ready to lose well again. It's just a pause button until you go back to VLCDs. I had a full P3/P4 and 10lbs of loading weight and I only lost 1.6 my first VLCD yesterday. The weight you regained during your break will go, but not overnight. That's how it's been for me too. I dont' re-lose as quickly as I regain . But, hang in there. Relax and give it some time. Your hcg is probably fine (but I don't know much about Rx). I do gather from most reports that PIs are very tough and usually not very successful for significant losses longer term. I'd prob shoot for LDW or lower and then see how you feel.

Reddy- I feel for you!! I do have to admit I'd love to be 3lbs below my LDW of last round by day 8!! You are likely seeing the slower losses as you have little left to lose. That's both a blessing and curse.

I'm down 1.6 for my first day. I was kinda' hoping for more, as my LDW was 147, and I'm still at 155 today . But, down it still better than up and I feel pretty good. Nice energy, temps high (I take my temp each morning as a measure of my metabollic health-personal thing) and minimal hunger. I can manage. Black coffee does help!!

Have a great day ladies!!

Julie you will lose it. As you know I gained a lot loading. Almost 8lbs.

My stats so far:

Last Day of P4 - 164
Official Load day 1- 167
Load day 2 - 168
VLCD 1 - 171.6
VLCD 2- 168
Vlcd 3 - 164.6
VLCD 4- 164.6
VLCD 5- 162.2
VLDC 6- 161.2
VLCD 7-161
VLCD 8 - 161

Hoping you have a great round that gets you to goal!!!

[riss]

Originally Posted by Berta48

Yes I believe it makes a difference. Also weighing at the same time every day makes a difference for me. JFYI

Also in my post above I posted to BUTTA and should have been you RISS I've been having alot of senior moments lately

Berta - I have moments like that all the time

Lara - sorry you're feeling bad and hope it gets better soon

reddy - it sounds like this round isn't going as well for you as in the past, hope you figure it out soon, I wonder if it is that you have less to lose now?

julie - sounds like you're off to a great start on this round, I'm curious about the temp monitoring, mine has always ran low which I figured was related to my thyroid, my dh's body temp is always much higher than mine - sleeping next to him feels like being next to a furnace which I'm guessing is b/c he's got a crazy high metabolism


So this morning on VLCD2 I was down 3.5 lbs. Of course that still leaves me 3 to go just from the loading gain

[adelinesdream]

Originally Posted by julieboolie

Yes. I think plenty of good sleep is crucial to weight loss (and lots of other things).

Buttah-hope you had a good day!!

Adeline-most people say that is the big problem with PIs. Getting your head back in the P2 game is so hard. And on your quick loss.

Berta-you'll lose that loading weight. Quick coming and going .

Coloring my roots right now. Played a double header softball game and getting ready foe bed. Nitey-night!

thanks dear julie, He has raised both my teen son Sam and I up out of the ash heaps of our lives. He has given us a wonderful husband/father to love and protect us and for us to love. He has given us another chance in life, which I never thought possible. That's my dh in my photo on here.

This morning r7 p2 vlcd 1
weight down .6 lbs to 170.4
B: black coffee and stevia
Biz shake w/ cottage cheese, strawberries, cocoa, spinach and stevia
L: Biz shake (same as above)
D: 3 oz grilled chicken
2 cups cooked cabbage wth 1 or 2 TB red sauce (have to check the calories to see)
I don't do the bread sticks so I have to see what my calorie count is cause I was told I can have more veggie to make up the calories if I don't have the bread sticks or melba toast.

This is the first time ever I lost weight while loading?? I had day 3 of the holiday recovery menu and it had loads of veggies raw and cooked. was pretty high fat. I was lower in protein and higher in fat content yesterday. I guess that works for me even with an injection.

[riss]

I went into the breakroom at work to heat up my lunch. There was a group having pizza so I ate my lean ground beef/onion meatloaf really quickly! Then I took my apples back to my desk to get away from the aroma.

[julieboolie]

Originally Posted by riss

Berta - I have moments like that all the time

Lara - sorry you're feeling bad and hope it gets better soon

reddy - it sounds like this round isn't going as well for you as in the past, hope you figure it out soon, I wonder if it is that you have less to lose now?

julie - sounds like you're off to a great start on this round, I'm curious about the temp monitoring, mine has always ran low which I figured was related to my thyroid, my dh's body temp is always much higher than mine - sleeping next to him feels like being next to a furnace which I'm guessing is b/c he's got a crazy high metabolism


So this morning on VLCD2 I was down 3.5 lbs. Of course that still leaves me 3 to go just from the loading gain

Yes, I use it as a guage for my metabolism/thyroid function. I'm hypo and spent many years w. a body temp of 95 something while Dr's all told me I was fine!! I am doing much better now. I talk more about it, and the refeed I did in May-July in my journal if you're interested. You're doing great!! Wonderful first day loss!!

Originally Posted by adelinesdream

thanks dear julie, He has raised both my teen son Sam and I up out of the ash heaps of our lives. He has given us a wonderful husband/father to love and protect us and for us to love. He has given us another chance in life, which I never thought possible. That's my dh in my photo on here.

This morning r7 p2 vlcd 1
weight down .6 lbs to 170.4
B: black coffee and stevia
Biz shake w/ cottage cheese, strawberries, cocoa, spinach and stevia
L: Biz shake (same as above)
D: 3 oz grilled chicken
2 cups cooked cabbage wth 1 or 2 TB red sauce (have to check the calories to see)
I don't do the bread sticks so I have to see what my calorie count is cause I was told I can have more veggie to make up the calories if I don't have the bread sticks or melba toast.

This is the first time ever I lost weight while loading?? I had day 3 of the holiday recovery menu and it had loads of veggies raw and cooked. was pretty high fat. I was lower in protein and higher in fat content yesterday. I guess that works for me even with an injection.

He brings beauty from ashes, right? Glad you're in a season of joy and can move ahead with faith, love and hope!! Losing on loading days? WTG!! Hope this portion of your round goes well!! (That was a PI, right? Does it count as a new round? I'm not sure about PI's ).

Plugging away over here. Rainy day (rare in AZ) causing us all to feel lazy. Had my apple, and gonna' make some type of cabbage GB meal for lunch, w/ leftover for later. Suggestions? I'll go look in the recipe thread.

[LaraSuzz]

Originally Posted by riss

So I've survived VLCD1 and am thinking I should go to bed early before I get hungry. Do you all believe that a good night's sleep really makes a difference? I sure hope so after adding on so many pounds during loading

I totally believe that it helps to get lots opf sleep and I think I read it somewhere wish I could remember where...

Originally Posted by riss

Lara - was it hard to take a 2 week break in between? I'm still in planning stages but I'm afraid if I did that it would make it harder to start back on P2.

I'm doing okay so far today. I had coffee and an apple for breakfast. Then had meatloaf with lean ground beef and onion for lunch with another apple. Now I'm heading home shortly to have dinner. I've had a lot of water today as well. Hopefully I can make it through this evening without hunger kicking in.

I was pretty disgusted this morning when I got on the scale and was up 6.5 lbs!! I'm not sure how much was the 3rd day of loading and how much is TOM?? I'm just hoping that the scale goes down in the morning!

I so know how you feel, I gain like gangbusters while loading but partially because Im allergic to everything and it makes me all poofy, thats really hot right? lol

Originally Posted by dawnyama

Reddy--we won't discuss my day. TOM started for me yesterday and it was not the best P2 day for me. I didn't even weigh in. That is how this morning went. Didn't want to see the numbers.

I won't be around tomorrow either. I have work really early and then I am involved in a 9/11 service in the evening. My brother was one of those who was killed in the World Trade Center. So I participate in my local 9/11 services. We have a memorial here in Columbia made from the WTC beams of the building where my brother worked. It is kinda neat to have that here in my town. Anyway, I will share pics the day after. I did last year. So you all keep on keeping on and I will report in later this week!!!

Treat yourself good today my friend, it's a hard day to remember. I can't imagine losing a loved one on that day. My heart goes out to you my dear.

[Berta48]

Originally Posted by LaraSuzz

I feel super cranky and tired, lol. Even though I went to bed at 9pm last night but I did get up at 4am...

I did a two week planned interruption. Maybe I will just hang in to get back to my last liw and then quit? I just think that day one should have been better. I'm dissapointed in myself with the fact that I was 3 over liw... then add 5 loading and thats 8 over my lowest I just feel like a failure if the weight doesnt come off fast like my last first week I was down 15 lbs.

so I'm blaming it on the meds... could it be the potency?

Yes~ I loaded for one day and gained 5 lbs. Thats what Weight Loss Apocolypse book said to do. Normally I wouldnt have loaded.

I just thought of something... yesterday I had a follow up mamogram from a biopsy 6 months ago so its possible stress could have affected my first day. If tomorrow is just as bad then I will assume its the meds maybe? And I took my birth control pill late monday... maybe thats why I feel icky.

Lara If it's the meds that concerns you the most get a pregnancy test and test it.That way you know if it is still good for certain.Then if it is ok you can look at other reasons?

[LaraSuzz]

Originally Posted by julieboolie

Lara- 1.6 after a PI is quite good, I think. A PI isn't a real P3/P4 where your body rests, is well fed and recharges so it's all ready to lose well again. It's just a pause button until you go back to VLCDs. I had a full P3/P4 and 10lbs of loading weight and I only lost 1.6 my first VLCD yesterday. The weight you regained during your break will go, but not overnight. That's how it's been for me too. I dont' re-lose as quickly as I regain . But, hang in there. Relax and give it some time. Your hcg is probably fine (but I don't know much about Rx). I do gather from most reports that PIs are very tough and usually not very successful for significant losses longer term. I'd prob shoot for LDW or lower and then see how you feel.

Reddy- I feel for you!! I do have to admit I'd love to be 3lbs below my LDW of last round by day 8!! You are likely seeing the slower losses as you have little left to lose. That's both a blessing and curse.

I'm down 1.6 for my first day. I was kinda' hoping for more, as my LDW was 147, and I'm still at 155 today . But, down it still better than up and I feel pretty good. Nice energy, temps high (I take my temp each morning as a measure of my metabollic health-personal thing) and minimal hunger. I can manage. Black coffee does help!!

Have a great day ladies!!

That's good advice julie, I think thats what I will aim for and anything mroe than that is icing on the cake. It would have been so nice if my correction days had actually worked, I would have been 3-5 lbs less than what I was.
Black coffee yes! I just had some and I think it made me feel better.
1.6 isnt bad, lets pray for more losses tomorrow!!!
It's raining here too! Love it.

[Berta48]

Well today is VLC day one.. I was up one more lb making it 3lbs so that really isn't bad.But my LDW was 244 then I gained the first day of PH3 up to 266 then maintained that until my first Load day.So I am actually up from LDW five lbs.
I sure hated changing my ticker today!!! Makes it look like I have not done so hot after all

Can we have fish 2 x in one day on PH2? I am thinking yes but dont recall for certain

I hope everyone has a good on plan day and great losses in the morning!!!

[Berta48]

Originally Posted by riss

I went into the breakroom at work to heat up my lunch. There was a group having pizza so I ate my lean ground beef/onion meatloaf really quickly! Then I took my apples back to my desk to get away from the aroma.

SO VERY PROUD OF YOU

[Berta48]

Originally Posted by julieboolie

Lara- 1.6 after a PI is quite good, I think. A PI isn't a real P3/P4 where your body rests, is well fed and recharges so it's all ready to lose well again. It's just a pause button until you go back to VLCDs. I had a full P3/P4 and 10lbs of loading weight and I only lost 1.6 my first VLCD yesterday. The weight you regained during your break will go, but not overnight. That's how it's been for me too. I dont' re-lose as quickly as I regain . But, hang in there. Relax and give it some time. Your hcg is probably fine (but I don't know much about Rx). I do gather from most reports that PIs are very tough and usually not very successful for significant losses longer term. I'd prob shoot for LDW or lower and then see how you feel.

Reddy- I feel for you!! I do have to admit I'd love to be 3lbs below my LDW of last round by day 8!! You are likely seeing the slower losses as you have little left to lose. That's both a blessing and curse.

I'm down 1.6 for my first day. I was kinda' hoping for more, as my LDW was 147, and I'm still at 155 today . But, down it still better than up and I feel pretty good. Nice energy, temps high (I take my temp each morning as a measure of my metabollic health-personal thing) and minimal hunger. I can manage. Black coffee does help!!

Have a great day ladies!!

I hope I lose a lb a day this time. I would love to see 2lb loss every day this first week.But I realize this beign my 3rd round it probably will slow down

CONGRATULATIONS ON THAT LB it could have went up instead right

Also the less you weigh the less you lose that too is a bummer though

[LaraSuzz]

Originally Posted by Berta48

Lara If it's the meds that concerns you the most get a pregnancy test and test it.That way you know if it is still good for certain.Then if it is ok you can look at other reasons?

I thought about that, but I dont want to loose a day of injections! I'm gonna call them right now...

they said they would remix the remaining portion of my hcg yay! Theyre so nice.

[riss]

Originally Posted by Berta48

Can we have fish 2 x in one day on PH2? I am thinking yes but dont recall for certain

From what I read you can have any of the allowed meats even if it's twice a day except for eggs which I believe was 2X per week and cottage cheese which was only 1X per week. I've been wondering if I could substitute greek yogurt for the cottage cheese. I figured I should probably stick to strict protocol for my first round and then experiement in later ones.

[LaraSuzz]

Have you guys seen this thread?

Favorite P2 Meals

[buttah]

I asked whoever runs Robin W's office about subbing greek yoghurt for cottage cheese (as I know others have successfully) - she said it has a higher carb content and is thus not as good of a protein as cottage cheese, so they don't recommend it. Again, I've read where people have had a bit of NF GY without issues. I'm not going there yet!

[Berta48]

Originally Posted by LaraSuzz

I thought about that, but I dont want to loose a day of injections! I'm gonna call them right now...

they said they would remix the remaining portion of my hcg yay! Theyre so nice.

Originally Posted by riss

From what I read you can have any of the allowed meats even if it's twice a day except for eggs which I believe was 2X per week and cottage cheese which was only 1X per week. I've been wondering if I could substitute greek yogurt for the cottage cheese. I figured I should probably stick to strict protocol for my first round and then experiement in later ones.

Riss
Yes stick to protocol.The losses won't be as good if you do not.(ask me how I know)
P&I says beef 2-3 x a week and not at both meals.
The eggs one whole plus three whites. I hate wasting three eggs!Cottage cheese I think is once a week? Not certain on that one.But I don't ever eat it much.It's ok.Just not my favorite!

[Reddy]

Curious what was everyone's menu today?

Ive had:

Coffee
Curry mustard grilled chicken
Cabbage (ramen style)
Half grapefruit
Turkey chilli
Dessert will be strawberries
Oh and I had a Melba toast today.
Never had one in my first round but due to hunger I thought I would add it.

Feeling hungry today. Not starving but hungry. Hoping tonight isn't awful and that I'll finally be down tomorrow. If not it will be an apple day for sure!

[buttah]

REddy, please share the curry mustard chicken recipe!

Coffee
Wasa 7 grain crisp n light
Dijon chicken and cabbage
Fuji apple
Dinner will be chicken with curry and fennel (making this up, and if you had any idea what a Betty Crock-not I am, you'd be impressed. HCG is making me learn.)

Hungry, not starving hungry. Also hoping tonight isn't awful and I'll finally be down tomorrow. Reddy are you me?

[Reddy]

Originally Posted by buttah

REddy, please share the curry mustard chicken recipe!

Coffee
Wasa 7 grain crisp n light
Dijon chicken and cabbage
Fuji apple
Dinner will be chicken with curry and fennel (making this up, and if you had any idea what a Betty Crock-not I am, you'd be impressed. HCG is making me learn.)

Hungry, not starving hungry. Also hoping tonight isn't awful and I'll finally be down tomorrow. Reddy are you me?

Oh there's no recipe or anything fancy. I like to cook normally but with HCG I keep it pretty simple. Although this round I have been experimenting a bit more.

I always make my chicken on the foreman grill. So today I seasoned it with salt, pepper, onion powder, yellow curry powder and some yellow mustard.

It was good. nothing exciting though.

I found a few recipes last night I want to try. One is like a chicken pizzaiola or something. Tomato and chicken baked mauve? Also going to give French onion soup a try. So I'm branching out.

Gotta say I'm worried about tonight. It's not even 7pm and I ate dinner 40 mins ago and I'm hungry! should not be like this.

I don't know how I'll make it through tonight let alone this round.

Sorry to alwYs complain. Glad we have each other buttah!

[julieboolie]

I've been hungry today. Bummer. Not unmanageable, but more than yesterday. Being home and not busy enough doesn't help.

Here's today's menu:
coffee
apple
chicken lettuce wrap
another apple - couldn't help myself. Strawberries just didn't sound filling.
cucumber marinated in ACV w/ splenda and seasonings
Ital. Beef/cabbage soup in the crock for dinner. A 2nd serving for leftovers too. Smells good!! and looks like more food than it is!!

Tomorrow: I bought 2oz frozen shrimp skewers. If I have 2 of them, assuming they've been weighed w. their tails, that ought to be about right, right? Maybe even light? Gonnna' grill them and eat my roasted/boiled radishes w. them tomorrow.

I am not usually very creative on P2. I have learned I lose better w. beef, so I have it usually every day. I make a few items w/ chicken that I enjoy (mostly asian stir-fries w. cabbage or the lettuce wraps w. ground chicken). For some reason a little burger, steak, soup or chili appeals to me more.

Riss-I recommend protocol too. Esp. if this is your first round (can't remember). There is a rogue thread you can read and see how others are working the plan. I did a few rogue rounds (not crazy, but slightly higher cals, and def higher fat) and didn't lose as well. It was much more enjoyable though .

Berta-you're doing just fine. That 5 new lbs will be gone soon. You'll be on to VWT!! How long do you think you'll go this round? I'm planning on 21/23. I'm not good beyond that. I hope to be to 139 by then, but we'll see. Trying not to have too many expectations so I dont' have too many disappointments .

Reddy-I miss a foreman grill on this plan. It's really ideal for P2. I have to use the outdoor gas grill and for a littel 3.5oz serving it's really not worth it. Sigh.

Buttah-I wonder if Robin's folks buy into the "yogurt exception" theory on the carb count for yogurt? If you do, it's actually lower in carbs than cottage cheese. I love GY!! I will wait patiently until P3 and guess what my first meal always is? Voskos and strawberries, w. cream in my coffee Can't wait! (and I just started!! )

Lara-thanks for the link. I'll be checking that out!! And they're mixing fresh for you. Even if this current stuff is still good, it's such a nice peace of mind to get fresh juice!!

Thinking skinny thoughts for us all, but I feel fat today. Silly, but my belly feels huge for some reason!! Oh well, onward we go!!

[buttah]

Right there with you, Reddy. It's 4:21, so I'm having a bit of broth with celery to try to put off dinner a while longer. My body needs more Leptin, so I know I have to give it something (Note: researching broths - the low sodium FF ones nearly all have some form of sugar in them, albeit small. So I mix half 15-cal-a-cup O Organics free range chicken broth with half O Organics 5-cal-a-cup low sodium chicken broth. A bit more flavor, less than a fraction of a gram of sugar, and less sodium.)

I worry that a couple hours after dinner, my hunger will return full force - meaning by bedtime I won't be able to sleep, and I'll wake up shaky.

That one great day that I had, I was FULL after dinner, and all the way to sleep. I want that!!! Maybe tonight. Maybe it will take until tomorrow. Or maybe tomorrow I should go up to 166iu. The satellite office of my clinic that's near me is only staffed Wed and Saturday, so I have to figure this out, or take a longer drive!

[buttah]

Originally Posted by julieboolie

Buttah-I wonder if Robin's folks buy into the "yogurt exception" theory on the carb count for yogurt? If you do, it's actually lower in carbs than cottage cheese.

Not based on the FF GY and FF CC in my fridge, it's not. Don't know where I posted it, but they do not recommend subbing yogurt for CC for just that reason. Unless you're talking about how it's digested or something? I know Dukan allows it for some reason like that.

[Reddy]

Ugh Buttah when will we catch a break???

Julie, I did not have any beef in my first round and haven't in this one either I think b/c it's a smaller portion than the other proteins and I was thinking I want to get more food or something.

I really should try having a steak or burger one time and see how I do.

I cook my turkey burgers and chicken on the Foreman. I make shrimp in a pan and I do my tilapia on the real grill.

My two favorite P2 dinners are lemon tilapia (it is SOOO good and I am NOT a fish person) and then my P2 turkey chilli which I had tonight> Sadly it did not keep me full.

Question for you all.. I've been drinking most of my water in the form of tea. Is that bad? Does it matter? Do I need to be drinking more straight water?

[julieboolie]

Originally Posted by buttah

Not based on the FF GY and FF CC in my fridge, it's not. Don't know where I posted it, but they do not recommend subbing yogurt for CC for just that reason. Unless you're talking about how it's digested or something? I know Dukan allows it for some reason like that.

Yep, the bacteria digesting the lactose theory. I don't know if it's true or not, but it doesn't make me gain like other dairy would - carb for carb that is. I kinda' buy it, but am not itchy to mess w. the protocol.

Originally Posted by Reddy

Ugh Buttah when will we catch a break???

Julie, I did not have any beef in my first round and haven't in this one either I think b/c it's a smaller portion than the other proteins and I was thinking I want to get more food or something.

I really should try having a steak or burger one time and see how I do.

I cook my turkey burgers and chicken on the Foreman. I make shrimp in a pan and I do my tilapia on the real grill.

My two favorite P2 dinners are lemon tilapia (it is SOOO good and I am NOT a fish person) and then my P2 turkey chilli which I had tonight> Sadly it did not keep me full.

Question for you all.. I've been drinking most of my water in the form of tea. Is that bad? Does it matter? Do I need to be drinking more straight water?

Beef keeps me full much longer and is more filling. I think my body responds well to the slightly higher fat content too. I don't do turkey, is that an addition to Simeons? Never understood why it's not on the list? I am not a fish person. Tell me more about this tilapia? Dh loves fish and would be uber thrilled if I converted .