~~ Rogue/Alternative HCG/hHCG plans for week of 8.26.12~~

[plarsen]

Thanks Cheryl, I needed that. I am my own worst enemy at times, my mind has been a bit of a wreck with the time change, schedual, change, new horse, lots of emotions going on and a diet to boot to try to make one last push to get to goal before the holidays.

If I didnt do this now though, I think I might be in for some gains over the holidays. Stress eating is soooooo stupid! I see my co workers do it, and you know, then you stress about your weight too

Thanks again for the support, I called my diet buddy too for a chat and she was encouraging, we can do this!

[CherylB]

We all are, Pattie! I am the Queen of "their own worst enemy."

Just THREE MORE POSTS and you can vent all about your new horse on our horse lover's thread! They don't have to be exciting posts or long posts, just posts.

I challenge you now to make three posts right here, right now. See you in horse lover's heaven!

PS: What happens if you don't make your goal of being at goal for the holidays? Life Goes On. This I know for a fact.

[plarsen]

Very true--about not meeting holiday goal. I was very bad at the bring in at school with all the sweets, I have just denied so much for so long, and was doing well with a little something now and then. BUT trying to be strict with myself kind of backfired, emotional eating it seems, just craving those sweets after that loading phase. I am having a clean day today, out of town guests and family dinner AFTER the bring in was really too much. I had pizza and cookies and pretzles. Not really eating like a slim person, which is my life long goal. Eat like a slim healthy person would with concern for food quality and nutrition. I just went off the deep end and hope I can back on track.
I regained the 4lbs I lost in two days, but figure that is water retention mainly, or the weight loss was not 'real' to begin with !

Oh well, my new horse came in lame last night, worse than he was after them are kicked him! Pretty upsetting but is probably just an abcess or a strain or sprain. I hosed, rubbed and wrapped then unwrapped. I am going to jump on my trampoline a nd go out and see what it looks like this am. I am hoping its better

Oh I get it, I had not posted enough to get in? I ll make more now!

Thanks for the support Cheryl!

[plarsen]

I am a floundering my last week here on my diet and in life, my co worker said it is because Mercury is in Retrograde! She may be right. I cannot think of anything else rather than I am too focused on my weight to the point of being ridiculous and too busy to enjoy myself properly!

[plarsen]

This should be sufficient to get on the horse lovers list, I belong their we are all a little crazy

[plarsen]

Woo Hooo! A SENIOR member now!!

[CherylB]

I already said you were joining us over there so hurry up, already! I'm so sorry about your new horse. Come talk about it over there and you'll get lots of support.

[plarsen]

I STILL cannot find it! I look and look, looked in the lounge, and looked in the playground, I even thought 'Chix with Sticks' was it, but no, its knitting, if you could just email me a link to the starting of the thread, then I can come on. My horse is doing better, but with the holiday haveing a tough time getting it soaked enough....Out to do that now, the temp dropped here to 29--yukko bucko!

[Seabreezes]

Originally Posted by plarsen

I STILL cannot find it! I look and look, looked in the lounge, and looked in the playground, I even thought 'Chix with Sticks' was it, but no, its knitting, if you could just email me a link to the starting of the thread, then I can come on. My horse is doing better, but with the holiday haveing a tough time getting it soaked enough....Out to do that now, the temp dropped here to 29--yukko bucko!

I think this is it.

http://www.lowcarbfriends.com/bbs/be...-need-one.html

[Nicole T]

Hi ladies....I'm baaaaaaaaack! (sad and happy about that!).

Just a quick recap--I think this will be my 5th round of HCG in a little over a year and a half. I started this journey at 196 lbs and got to 165 lbs with my first 63 day round! After that I've had a hard time stabilizing but did fairly well as long as I ate strict Paleo (no wheat, no sugar, no dairy) and found that my body liked being right around 170 lbs (a nice size 12 for me since I am large boned--really I am! LOL)

Well, after round 4 I got down to 170 or so and then decided to try The No S way of eating. I stuck with it religiously for almost 2 months with NOT ONE cheat day...and gained at least 5 lbs because of it I wanted so badly for it to work because it's so liveable! My body is just SUPER sensitive to grains and sugar and couldn't handle the S days where you could have those things.

Then my 40th birthday happened and Thanksgiving (which included a week at the beach in the Outer Banks of NC) and lots of food and drink etc... And then I wasn't in my size 12's anymore (I truly care more about that than my weight) and even some of my 14's were getting tight so I knew I had to do something ASAP or the holidays would only make things worse.

I was SO scared to get on the scale after not stepping on it for months so I started this round on Monday without weighing myself. Today I stepped on for the first time and was 182.8. Not horrid but not great either. BUT...I should be able to get back to 170 by the end of this round (my losses rarely go higher than 10-13 lbs in a 23 day round).

I am pretty rogue and found that my rogue rounds (2, 3 and 4) netted me the same losses as my first 63 day round where I was TOTALLY by the book! Some of my rogueness includes:

• 1/2 and 1/2 in my coffee (2-4T a day)
• pretty much all low-carb veggies--my favs are broccoli, zucchini and brussel sprouts
• all variations of super lean meats but not much red meat- ground turkey, fat free turkey hot dogs, boneless lean pork chops
• 1 piece of sugar free chocolate a day (1 Hershey's miniture dark chocolate)
• 100 calorie bags of popcorn--probably 3-4 bags a week
• a rice cake here or there when my stomach feels like it's eating itself
• no grassini or melba and very little fruit
• 1 egg and 2-3 egg whites as a meal from time to time

And probably a few more I am forgetting but I basically worry more about staying in the calorie range and eating very low fat and no sugar than I worry about following the protocol to the T and it hasn't seemed to hurt my losses in the past

So here's to Holiday HCG and getting skinny for Santa

[CherylB]

Nicole, ! I hear you about the No S and wanting that plan to work. I remember how liberating it felt and I know you felt that way, too. How disappointing it must have been to see you were 5 lbs heavier after 2 solid months of doing it perfectly. Well, at least you gave it your all and now you know it's not all that it should be cracked up to be.

I applaud you for starting another round of hcg. I am mulling this over myself. It's the perfect time, being after Thanksgiving and coming up on Christmas. I think I'm going to join you, darling girl. I'll load today and maybe tomorrow, then I'll do my rogue version of hhcg using my old pellets. (They were still working back when I tried them last.)

It's snowing here today. I was shocked when I looked outside and saw everything was white. It's melting when it hits the road so it's no big deal as of right now. Just pretty!

So, Nicole. I think I'm going to join you. Let the games begin. I'll load and then drop calories down to around 800-1000. The highest my cals have ever been on a round but my Dr hates it when I go to 500-600 cals. I trust him so I'll go higher this time and see how well it works.

Have a lovely day, people (whoever else is out there.) Is it just you and me, Nicole?

[Nicole T]

Originally Posted by CherylB

Nicole, ! I hear you about the No S and wanting that plan to work. I remember how liberating it felt and I know you felt that way, too. How disappointing it must have been to see you were 5 lbs heavier after 2 solid months of doing it perfectly. Well, at least you gave it your all and now you know it's not all that it should be cracked up to be.

I applaud you for starting another round of hcg. I am mulling this over myself. It's the perfect time, being after Thanksgiving and coming up on Christmas. I think I'm going to join you, darling girl. I'll load today and maybe tomorrow, then I'll do my rogue version of hhcg using my old pellets. (They were still working back when I tried them last.)

It's snowing here today. I was shocked when I looked outside and saw everything was white. It's melting when it hits the road so it's no big deal as of right now. Just pretty!

So, Nicole. I think I'm going to join you. Let the games begin. I'll load and then drop calories down to around 800-1000. The highest my cals have ever been on a round but my Dr hates it when I go to 500-600 cals. I trust him so I'll go higher this time and see how well it works.

Have a lovely day, people (whoever else is out there.) Is it just you and me, Nicole?

Oh yay Cheryl....SO glad you're joining me My heart is pretty much in it this time (as opposed to the last time) and I think it's because I am starting at a higher weight and have NO desire to be right back where I started a year and a half ago!

[CherylB]

I'm pretty much putting all of that behind me and going forward as if it was the first time I've gone down this road. I have regained and am now just a few lbs over the 200 mark. I never thought I would EVER say that but here I am again. I am lowering my goal from 140 and making it 135. And I'm giving myself 6 months to get there. Period.

I'll be going back to working out at the gym, starting tomorrow. I'll do M-W-F and if I also swim, that will be done on in-between days. I'm going to give it my absolute all. The only way I'm going to reach my goal and live in the body of my choosing is if I totally radically CHANGE. I want the life that thin Cheryl can live. Fat Cheryl is limited as to the opportunities that come her way. Cheryl is tired of it all.

The world we live in judges fat people. They make assumptions about them and doors close for some. I'm so sick of it. So it's now and only now. Yesterday is gone and it doesn't matter how low I got on the scale last year or the year before. It's all new and I'm on my way.

Did you love your time on the Outer Banks? Got any pics? I love pics.

[Nicole T]

Originally Posted by CherylB

I'm pretty much putting all of that behind me and going forward as if it was the first time I've gone down this road. I have regained and am now just a few lbs over the 200 mark. I never thought I would EVER say that but here I am again. I am lowering my goal from 140 and making it 135. And I'm giving myself 6 months to get there. Period.

I'll be going back to working out at the gym, starting tomorrow. I'll do M-W-F and if I also swim, that will be done on in-between days. I'm going to give it my absolute all. The only way I'm going to reach my goal and live in the body of my choosing is if I totally radically CHANGE. I want the life that thin Cheryl can live. Fat Cheryl is limited as to the opportunities that come her way. Cheryl is tired of it all.

The world we live in judges fat people. They make assumptions about them and doors close for some. I'm so sick of it. So it's now and only now. Yesterday is gone and it doesn't matter how low I got on the scale last year or the year before. It's all new and I'm on my way.

Did you love your time on the Outer Banks? Got any pics? I love pics.

Sounds like an awesome plan Cheryl!!! Yes, we had a fabulous time even though the weather was kinda cold and yucky (this time last year when we went we were sunbathing on the beach!). I do have pics but I don't like them because I look huge in them LOL

[CherylB]

I was thinking scenery pics. I hear ya on pics of ourselves.

[TerriMM]

Hey Girls!
I started last Sunday after jumping up during my car replacement adventure. I did great all week, even during Thanksgiving and then all of a sudden I jumped back up 2# yesterday. Today I'm doing a beef day and tomorrow I think I'll go back to my rogue P2. So I'm in with ya!

[CherylB]

Yea!!!

[Nicole T]

Morning ladies! I did good avoiding the scale this morning. I decided I'm going to try something new and only weigh on Fridays this round. My last few rounds were very hard mentally on the days where I would stall or only lose a few ounces---I think because I already feel SO deprived doing this and then to not see losses daily would just put me in a funk that could last all day long!

I'm hoping that by only weighing once a week I will only see the big picture minus all the stupid stalls. I also am finding that it's not as hard for me not to weigh now that two of my three boys started going to school this year and my butt has to be up and making lunches at 6:30 am. Honestly, the scale is the last thing on my mind when I roll out of bed in the dark and search for something warm to put on and my Uggs! LOL

My hunger seems to be ok right now--I didn't load because I kinda counted my Thanksgiving and birthday week as my loading. I'm using HCG 1234 drops from my local apothecary and I like them a lot better than Intermountain. My hunger was out of control with IM!

I just had my coffee and a rice cake since my tummy was feeling empty so I'm hoping that holds me over until lunch. Getting up at 6:30 makes it much harder to get to lunch then when I would roll out of bed at 8:30 or 9:00 and not have coffee until 9:30 or 10:00!

[CherylB]

I'm in full agreement with you on the scale, Nicole. I was thinking of doing the exact same thing for the very same reason. I'll finish loading today and start the VLCD phase tomorrow. I weighed myself today and I guess I'll weigh one more time tomorrow and then put the scale away for a while. I'll miss the excitement that comes from seeing big numbers but I won't miss the disappointment and frustration that comes when you don't get what you think you deserve.

You have a seriously early start to your day! That would do me in, Nicole. God bless Mothers!!! (Dads too.) But mostly Mothers! They're in the trenches, day in and day out. It does make for a long day when you get up at that hour, doesn't it? I know that's why I like to sleep late. Fewer hours to have to fill.

Speaking of coffee, I've yet to brew a pot so I'm going to go do that. BBL. (((HUGS)))

[Nicole T]

Originally Posted by CherylB

I'm in full agreement with you on the scale, Nicole. I was thinking of doing the exact same thing for the very same reason. I'll finish loading today and start the VLCD phase tomorrow. I weighed myself today and I guess I'll weigh one more time tomorrow and then put the scale away for a while. I'll miss the excitement that comes from seeing big numbers but I won't miss the disappointment and frustration that comes when you don't get what you think you deserve.

You have a seriously early start to your day! That would do me in, Nicole. God bless Mothers!!! (Dads too.) But mostly Mothers! They're in the trenches, day in and day out. It does make for a long day when you get up at that hour, doesn't it? I know that's why I like to sleep late. Fewer hours to have to fill.

Speaking of coffee, I've yet to brew a pot so I'm going to go do that. BBL. (((HUGS)))

Yeah well their father left 4 years ago and sees them every other weekend and helps in NO WAY with the day to day driving to and from school and all their sports practices. He also just got married 2 weeks ago (to the girl he left me for) and has a new "step son" that I'm sure he's way more involved with than he is with his own 3 boys. His loss for sure but it is VERY hard being a single mom with the sole responsibility of just about everything!

[CherylB]

He married "the other woman"? That's very rare. That's how "the other woman" thinks things will turn out but it's almost always a lie. I'm sorry you have been put through so much, Nicole. May God strengthen you each and every day and give you the grace to do all the things you have on your plate. AND find time for rejuvenation for yourself on a regular basis.

What do you enjoy doing that recharges your batteries? Do you ever get to do those things? What floats your boat?

[Nicole T]

Originally Posted by CherylB

He married "the other woman"? That's very rare. That's how "the other woman" thinks things will turn out but it's almost always a lie. I'm sorry you have been put through so much, Nicole. May God strengthen you each and every day and give you the grace to do all the things you have on your plate. AND find time for rejuvenation for yourself on a regular basis.

What do you enjoy doing that recharges your batteries? Do you ever get to do those things? What floats your boat?

Don't worry--it won't last. And I'm not saying that because I don't want it to last...I'm saying that because she is NOT a nice person in any way, shape or form. Just to prove that, his entire family has banned her from any family activities and his own parents won't talk to him until she's out of the picture!
I'd love nothing more than for him to find someone wonderful and nice who will care for my boys when they are over there...I have my fingers crossed!

Believe it or not, what I love to do to recharge is BE BY MYSELF! LOL I think it's a mom thing....we spend so much of our time taking care of our kids that we truly enjoy down time to ourselves. It almost doesn't matter what I'm doing...something as basic as getting to read theses boards uninterrupted recharges me just fine

[TerriMM]

Well my beef day netted me a 1.2 loss, so I’m in a lot better frame of mind today. I am battling the hunger bug today though.

[CherylB]

That makes total sense, Nicole. I hear that 100%.

Terri, WTG on the loss!

[Nicole T]

Originally Posted by TerriMM

Well my beef day netted me a 1.2 loss, so I’m in a lot better frame of mind today. I am battling the hunger bug today though.

That's great Terri! I'm battling some hunger issues today too (vlc day 3). I'm currently eating 100 calorie worth of air popped popcorn I find after about day 6 or 7 food looses it's importance to me. Can't wait for that to happen! LOL

[TerriMM]

I did that last week with good results. I have an emergency homemade veggie soup I brought I think I'll heat up.

[TerriMM]

Okay that seems to be working. That's what I get for trying a bite of the pumkin cheesecake. Stupid, stupid,stupid.

[plarsen]

Some days it is soooo hard isnt it? I will have a great clean day, then a series of events will set me spinning and I find myself so hungry, as if the food will ground me again. I am sure its emotional eating. I best get myself out side and do some chores and take me out of the snacking mentality.

[TerriMM]

I hear that! Went from bad to worse today. Tomorrow I'll switch to Fat Fast and see if I can get a hold of this thing. Somewhere in the back of my brain I need to know I can't have any carbs. Add that to being able to have some yummy things and maybe I can pull this off.

[CherylB]

Okay. Day #1 on this P2 and my post-load weight is a whopping 205.4. I did it to myself. There is no one else to blame but me. Today I regain control and take back the wheel, so to speak.

I'm setting a goal for myself. I'm breaking it up into 2 3-month sections and by the end of 6 months, I will be at my goal of 135. I will do this. If they can do big things on The Biggest Loser and other weight loss shows, I can achieve the same thing at home, using my gym membership.

I have 70.4 lbs to drop to make that happen. Since the most weight comes off in the beginning, I'm setting a goal to have lost 45 lbs in the first 3 months. That will leave 25 for the last 3 months and I know I can do that. I have to want it bad enough to gut it out and make it happen. That's all!

So since it's almost December, I'm going to start my 3-month clock on December 1st, even though I'm starting today. Just to keep things neat and tidy. By the beginning of March, I will weigh 160 or less.

That's the battle plan, ladies! And when I begin going to the gym again, it will be M-W-F, weights and cardio. I might need to go on T-Th for cardio only. Lord, how I hate cardio! But The Biggest Loser contestants don't take days off.

I am a planner! This is my plan. Now to make it materialize and get 'er done! So what am I eating today? No idea, other than coffee with cream and Ez Sweetz. Oh! And vitamins.