PH2 SIMEONS WEEK OF AUGUST 13TH

[moonriver]

Didn't see a new thread for this week, so thought I'd start one!

I managed .4 this morning after a long stayed the same 3 days. Whew! Hoping things will pick up for the next 12 days.

[junkn]

its aug 6th and the thread is here:

P2 Simeon's Protocol Week of August 5th

[moonriver]

Well, so it is! So I'm a week ahead of the rest of the world.

[LaraSuzz]

That's okay! =) should we start using this one?

[Fat Eddie]

Originally Posted by Fat Eddie

Reddy, I cooked the talapia and I give it 4 stars(excellent), the only reason I shorted it a star is because a 100g piece really shrinks up.lol.

I have a question for the board: If you are going to do a PI, Dr.S says to stop 3 days before so the HCG leaves the system. So if the HCG leaves the system in 3 days how can you build up an immunity and have to wait 6 weeks between rounds? Doesn't that sound like a contradiction? For a simpilton like me this is confusing. I knew I spent too many years in college, "its a wonder I can think at all".

Thanks Lara, Bump for more thoughts Fat Eddie

[LaraSuzz]

Originally Posted by Fat Eddie

Thanks Lara, Bump for more thoughts Fat Eddie

Immunity to HCG
The reason for limiting a course to 40 injections is that by then some patients may begin to show signs of HCG immunity. Though this phenomenon is well known, we cannot as yet define the underlying mechanism. Maybe after
a certain length of time the body learns to break down and eliminate HCG very rapidly, or possibly prolonged treatment leads to some sort of counter-regulation which annuls the diencephalic effect. After 40 daily injections it takes about six weeks before this so called immunity is lost and HCG again becomes fully effective. Usually after about 40 injections patients may feel the onset of immunity as hunger which was previously absent. In those comparatively rare cases in which signs of immunity develop before the full course of 40 injections has been completed-say at the 35th injection- treatment must be stopped at once, because if it is continued
the patients begin to look weary and drawn, feel weak and hungry and any further loss of weight achieved is then always at the expense of normal fat. This is not only undesirable, but normal fat is also instantly regained as soon as the patient is returned to a free diet. Patients who need only 23 injections may be injected daily, including Sundays, as they never develop immunity. In those that take 40 injections the onset of immunity can be delayed if they are given only six injections a week, leaving out Sundays or any other day they choose, provided that it is always the same day. On the days on which they do not receive the injections they usually feel a slight sensation of hunger. At first we thought that this might be purely psychological, but we found that when normal saline is injected without the patient's knowledge the same phenomenon occurs.

Interesting, but the most important point that I get from this is that i dont want to regain the fat... I guess I understand the concept but immunity has always been hard for me to understand too.

I have felt exhausted at the end of a round, just tired ingeneral... maybe this is what they mean?

[moonriver]

Managed to scrape off 2.8 lbs last week. The week before that was tortuously slow, but I managed to hang in there. I have six more days with HCG, then the 72 hours and THEN......P3!

Here's to a good week for everybody!

[coffeecups]

Well I've started R3 ... I'm on VLCD4 ... I've taken off 9.8lbs so far this week.

I'm curious to know how different were each of the rounds for you. Did you notice a difference in weightloss patterns. Did each round become difficult or did they vary?

My first round was a breeze, my round 2 was HORRIBLE, and R3 is somewhat easy ... I will have to look back on my other rounds as to my weightloss beginnings. I'm really hoping that in 40days I will loose 24lbs; however, I know that it is most likely to be 16 - 20lbs ... we'll see

[dawnyama]

Checking in after being MIA for a couple of weeks. Survived my vacation (somehow) and am back to taking more off!!! I am down 10 lbs in 5 days. I think it is flying off because I have just been this weight and my body is used to being lower LOL. Anyhow, let's have a great week of releases!! I know I am ready!!

coffeecups---my round #2 was horrible. I was hungry every single day, but still lost weight. First round was the best ever!!! 3rd went as well as the first.

[Fat Eddie]

Congrats to all you losers.

Today is day 36 for me and I hit my minus 25 pound mark this a.m.

209.6 man that sounds sweet. I guess 205 and 199 will sound like heaven. This really works if you stick with it. Still thinking my strategy for my upcoming PI.
-------------------------------------------------
YOU KNOW YOU NEED TO DIET AND EXERCISE WHEN YOU GO TO THE ZOO AND THE ELEPHANTS THROW PEANUTS AT YOU.

[dawnyama]

Originally Posted by Fat Eddie

Congrats to all you losers.

Today is day 36 for me and I hit my minus 25 pound mark this a.m.

209.6 man that sounds sweet. I guess 205 and 199 will sound like heaven. This really works if you stick with it. Still thinking my strategy for my upcoming PI.
-------------------------------------------------
YOU KNOW YOU NEED TO DIET AND EXERCISE WHEN YOU GO TO THE ZOO AND THE ELEPHANTS THROW PEANUTS AT YOU.

Congratulations!!!

[moonriver]

Originally Posted by coffeecups

Well I've started R3 ... I'm on VLCD4 ... I've taken off 9.8lbs so far this week.

I'm curious to know how different were each of the rounds for you. Did you notice a difference in weightloss patterns. Did each round become difficult or did they vary?

My first round was a breeze, my round 2 was HORRIBLE, and R3 is somewhat easy ... I will have to look back on my other rounds as to my weightloss beginnings. I'm really hoping that in 40days I will loose 24lbs; however, I know that it is most likely to be 16 - 20lbs ... we'll see

Well done on the 9.8 lbs! Yes, each round for me has been different. Some easier than others. The pattern did change in each round. A couple were every day a lost a little. Some were stay the same, stay the same, lose, STS, STS, lose, etc.

Originally Posted by dawnyama

Checking in after being MIA for a couple of weeks. Survived my vacation (somehow) and am back to taking more off!!! I am down 10 lbs in 5 days. I think it is flying off because I have just been this weight and my body is used to being lower LOL. Anyhow, let's have a great week of releases!! I know I am ready!!

coffeecups---my round #2 was horrible. I was hungry every single day, but still lost weight. First round was the best ever!!! 3rd went as well as the first.

Wow Dawn! You'll be back to where you were in no time at all.

Originally Posted by Fat Eddie

Congrats to all you losers.

Today is day 36 for me and I hit my minus 25 pound mark this a.m.

209.6 man that sounds sweet. I guess 205 and 199 will sound like heaven. This really works if you stick with it. Still thinking my strategy for my upcoming PI.
-------------------------------------------------
YOU KNOW YOU NEED TO DIET AND EXERCISE WHEN YOU GO TO THE ZOO AND THE ELEPHANTS THROW PEANUTS AT YOU.

Yay Eddie!! Way to Go! Feels sweet, doesn't it? Consider just skipping the interruption and losing the extra weight?

Me, STS the am, but am within two pounds of LDW from last round...hoping to hit that or a little more before the end of this round.

[LaraSuzz]

grrrr STS this am and its got me grumpy. I think it was too much salt so today I will torture myself with extremely bland food. lol and I wil go to sleep as soon as I can too.

[coffeecups]

Okay, so today is VLCD5 ... I am down 10.8 - HOWEVER, I had gone away for the long weekend and GAINED! *ugh* ... But that's okay ... I knew I was planning to start my R3 on Tuesday, so I just viewed it as 3 unofficial fat loading then 2 official fat loading ... LOL ... So, now I'm officially 1lb less then I was on Friday ... YEAH ... now we can start counting the 'REAL' weight-loss!... lol ...

I'm finding that if I can have ALL my water drank by supper that I seem to lose better - now that could just be my imagination working overtime - or it's HOPING that's what's doing it ... LOL

[coffeecups]

Originally Posted by coffeecups

Okay, so today is VLCD5 ... I am down 10.8 - HOWEVER, I had gone away for the long weekend and GAINED! *ugh* ... But that's okay ... I knew I was planning to start my R3 on Tuesday, so I just viewed it as 3 unofficial fat loading then 2 official fat loading ... LOL ... So, now I'm officially 1lb less then I was on Friday ... YEAH ... now we can start counting the 'REAL' weight-loss!... lol ...

I'm finding that if I can have ALL my water drank by supper that I seem to lose better - now that could just be my imagination working overtime - or it's HOPING that's what's doing it ... LOL

Jeepers ... apparently I don't know math! ... SHEESH! I've lost a total of 8.8LBS ... I am now 1lb less then I was Friday, August 3rd.

[TiffanyM]

Originally Posted by moonriver

Managed to scrape off 2.8 lbs last week. The week before that was tortuously slow, but I managed to hang in there. I have six more days with HCG, then the 72 hours and THEN......P3!

Here's to a good week for everybody!

That's great! I can't wait to be back on P3.

Originally Posted by coffeecups

Well I've started R3 ... I'm on VLCD4 ... I've taken off 9.8lbs so far this week.

I'm curious to know how different were each of the rounds for you. Did you notice a difference in weightloss patterns. Did each round become difficult or did they vary?

My first round was a breeze, my round 2 was HORRIBLE, and R3 is somewhat easy ... I will have to look back on my other rounds as to my weightloss beginnings. I'm really hoping that in 40days I will loose 24lbs; however, I know that it is most likely to be 16 - 20lbs ... we'll see

Wow 9.8 pounds! that is awesome! I'm losing weight about the same on this round as I did on my 1st. I'm still hungry though, alot.

Originally Posted by dawnyama

Checking in after being MIA for a couple of weeks. Survived my vacation (somehow) and am back to taking more off!!! I am down 10 lbs in 5 days. I think it is flying off because I have just been this weight and my body is used to being lower LOL. Anyhow, let's have a great week of releases!! I know I am ready!!



coffeecups---my round #2 was horrible. I was hungry every single day, but still lost weight. First round was the best ever!!! 3rd went as well as the first.

Are you back on P2 Dawn? 10 pounds in 5 days, wow!

Originally Posted by Fat Eddie

Congrats to all you losers.

Today is day 36 for me and I hit my minus 25 pound mark this a.m.

209.6 man that sounds sweet. I guess 205 and 199 will sound like heaven. This really works if you stick with it. Still thinking my strategy for my upcoming PI.
-------------------------------------------------
YOU KNOW YOU NEED TO DIET AND EXERCISE WHEN YOU GO TO THE ZOO AND THE ELEPHANTS THROW PEANUTS AT YOU.

Congratulations! How long is your PI going to be?

Originally Posted by LaraSuzz

grrrr STS this am and its got me grumpy. I think it was too much salt so today I will torture myself with extremely bland food. lol and I wil go to sleep as soon as I can too.

What is STS?

[coffeecups]

Originally Posted by TiffanyM

:
Congratulations! How long is your PI going to be?



What is STS?

STS = Stayed The Same

[cocoapeanut]

Well, I'm officially back in P2 y'all! Loaded this weekend (well, that and half of last week..) and am ready to get this weight loss party started! After eating so much crap I feel like a bloated whale! Can't wait to feel flatter again. And I'm hoping my round 2 isn't as terrible as some of yours!

I should also note that I'm planning a week-long interruption after 25 days to be prepared for my aunt visiting and a couple of parties, and then I'll jump back in and shoot for finishing out my vial. I'm not actually weighing myself until my last dose before the PI, which will be September 6. OMG I know!! It's gonna be weird but hopefully relaxing down the road?

Dawn and coffeecups -- Holy moly, I hope I can lose 10 lbs in 5 days too!

[canook]

VLCD 3...down 4 yesterday and 2 today! Yeah! Load weight is gone plus 3 more!

I am starting to get over the hungries! Yesterday I cooked and cut enough chicken to last me the week and washed/chopped all my veggies too.

Today I got lots of exercise getting my classroom set up....moving furniture and climbing ladders.

Make it a GREAT day...looks like everyone is having big losses.

p.s. Hi Dawn
I'm so glad you're here!!

[canook]

Originally Posted by LaraSuzz

grrrr STS this am and its got me grumpy. I think it was too much salt so today I will torture myself with extremely bland food. lol and I wil go to sleep as soon as I can too.

I was worried about the salt yesterday too. I had pickles with my scrambled egg + whites. At least it is just water...not fat.

[shelbyla]

Hi guys! After two vacations and stabilizing higher than I'd like, I'm back on the P2 bandwagon with y'all! Today is day one and I'll be weighing tomorrow to see if day one gets me even close to where I was PRE-load, Saturday morning! I also spent a LOT of last week "loading" but at least it was (for the most part) fantastic homemade food with family so for me it was worth it. Looking forward to getting back to LDW or close to it of last round and easing into P3...

[dawnyama]

Originally Posted by cocoapeanut

Well, I'm officially back in P2 y'all! Loaded this weekend (well, that and half of last week..) and am ready to get this weight loss party started! After eating so much crap I feel like a bloated whale! Can't wait to feel flatter again. And I'm hoping my round 2 isn't as terrible as some of yours!

I should also note that I'm planning a week-long interruption after 25 days to be prepared for my aunt visiting and a couple of parties, and then I'll jump back in and shoot for finishing out my vial. I'm not actually weighing myself until my last dose before the PI, which will be September 6. OMG I know!! It's gonna be weird but hopefully relaxing down the road?

Dawn and coffeecups -- Holy moly, I hope I can lose 10 lbs in 5 days too!

I had a few things I normally don't have the last 2 days before I started my restart of this round. So I was bloated from a few carbs that is a reason why it was so fast. I also got this close to sun poisoning during my first vacation that I think last week I was finally letting go of my inflammation. I was so swollen and sore I could not even bend my knee. It was soooo painful to have that burn. Let this be a lesson to you all---use sunscreen people. I used none and with being on a lake and no shade whatsoever Oooh, the pain I was in. So combine those 2 and the weight just whooshed off. Now, I am on TOM so I don't believe I will have any other whooshes for a while but it was fun while it lasted!!!!

Yeah for being back in P2

[dawnyama]

Originally Posted by canook

VLCD 3...down 4 yesterday and 2 today! Yeah! Load weight is gone plus 3 more!

I am starting to get over the hungries! Yesterday I cooked and cut enough chicken to last me the week and washed/chopped all my veggies too.

Today I got lots of exercise getting my classroom set up....moving furniture and climbing ladders.

Make it a GREAT day...looks like everyone is having big losses.

p.s. Hi Dawn
I'm so glad you're here!!

Glad to see you around too.

[dawnyama]

Originally Posted by shelbyla

Hi guys! After two vacations and stabilizing higher than I'd like, I'm back on the P2 bandwagon with y'all! Today is day one and I'll be weighing tomorrow to see if day one gets me even close to where I was PRE-load, Saturday morning! I also spent a LOT of last week "loading" but at least it was (for the most part) fantastic homemade food with family so for me it was worth it. Looking forward to getting back to LDW or close to it of last round and easing into P3...

You too Wow this is fantastic!!! So many P2 buddies this week. I cannot wait to get to my goal this round. Let's do it

[Fat Eddie]

[QUOTE=TiffanyM;15869492]Conratulations! How long is your PI going to be?



Tiffany I have a big party to go to it begins Friday night through Sunday. Today was my last injection. Eat 500 cal for Tu/wed/thurs and then PI. I am going to be sensible ha me sensible

Everytime I say that its so funny, I'm going to go

Then back on course Sunday or Monday. Probably gain +4.234565438 lbs is my guess.
Hey you all wanna have a pool? How many I will gain. Hint I might eat brats and pizza but I don't know. Fat Eddie.

[TiffanyM]

I think if you stay low carb you'll be alright! I'm going to guess 4 pounds.

[LaraSuzz]

Originally Posted by shelbyla

Hi guys! After two vacations and stabilizing higher than I'd like, I'm back on the P2 bandwagon with y'all! Today is day one and I'll be weighing tomorrow to see if day one gets me even close to where I was PRE-load, Saturday morning! I also spent a LOT of last week "loading" but at least it was (for the most part) fantastic homemade food with family so for me it was worth it. Looking forward to getting back to LDW or close to it of last round and easing into P3...

yay Shelby is here!! lol Glad to have you with us!

Originally Posted by canook

I was worried about the salt yesterday too. I had pickles with my scrambled egg + whites. At least it is just water...not fat.

Hmm well it could have been the salt or that I used sugar free peach syrup in my iced tea and it has one carb per serving?

Originally Posted by cocoapeanut

Well, I'm officially back in P2 y'all! Loaded this weekend (well, that and half of last week..) and am ready to get this weight loss party started! After eating so much crap I feel like a bloated whale! Can't wait to feel flatter again. And I'm hoping my round 2 isn't as terrible as some of yours!

I should also note that I'm planning a week-long interruption after 25 days to be prepared for my aunt visiting and a couple of parties, and then I'll jump back in and shoot for finishing out my vial. I'm not actually weighing myself until my last dose before the PI, which will be September 6. OMG I know!! It's gonna be weird but hopefully relaxing down the road?

Dawn and coffeecups -- Holy moly, I hope I can lose 10 lbs in 5 days too!

I was thinking of doing that too but I will see how I feel at the end of the month.

[quote=Fat Eddie;15870181]

Originally Posted by TiffanyM

Conratulations! How long is your PI going to be?

Tiffany I have a big party to go to it begins Friday night through Sunday. Today was my last injection. Eat 500 cal for Tu/wed/thurs and then PI. I am going to be sensible ha me sensible

Everytime I say that its so funny, I'm going to go

Then back on course Sunday or Monday. Probably gain +4.234565438 lbs is my guess.
Hey you all wanna have a pool? How many I will gain. Hint I might eat brats and pizza but I don't know. Fat Eddie.

Have fun Eddie! You can do this!

I feel like I'm shrinking... lol but in the wrong places! My victoria secret push up bra is too big! AHHHHH!

I had an orange, 200g grilled chicken breast half a head of lettuce an apple and I dunno if I should ix-nay the breadstick-ay?

I was kind of dissapointed last night when I opened the freezer and discovered that I forgot to eat my beloved haagen dazs peanut butter and chocolate ice cream during loading lol... I thought that I had covered all my bases but now that will be the one thing that haunts me until my next load. Sleep tight my creamy buddy, you will be devoured atthe next opportunity.

[cocoapeanut]

Originally Posted by LaraSuzz

I was kind of dissapointed last night when I opened the freezer and discovered that I forgot to eat my beloved haagen dazs peanut butter and chocolate ice cream during loading lol... I thought that I had covered all my bases but now that will be the one thing that haunts me until my next load. Sleep tight my creamy buddy, you will be devoured atthe next opportunity.

That's how I feel about the Ben and Jerry's in my freezer right now

Ugh I hate the first day, so hungry in the evening! But it'll get better. Starting off is always a bit rough.

It's bedtime anyway, hehehe.

[nosugar]

Good Morning All!!
So great to familiar faces! @shelby, @dawn!- Hi guys!
Today is only day 2 of vlcd but I have questions if anyone can help? Yesterday - vlcd 1, I was doing great - really busy day lots of running around, I was drinking water but could have drank more, had a nice salad with chicken around 2 and then BOOOOM! at 4pm a headache like I have never felt came on! I was surprised because I have done juice fasts etc... and never felt like this! Now I am in day 2 and the headache is still lingering. Im guessing this is normal? Wondering how long I will have this? I have just never had it come on so soon! I did have a nice 3.5 pound loss overnight - that helps the pain of my head! That being said.....I love this way of eating and wish I would eat like this, (choose these foods) forever! i was able to fit in a 3 mile walk/run this morning but realize that I might not be able to continue that the whole round.
Hope everyone has a great day! I will check in to read the updates!

[LaraSuzz]

Originally Posted by cocoapeanut

That's how I feel about the Ben and Jerry's in my freezer right now

Ugh I hate the first day, so hungry in the evening! But it'll get better. Starting off is always a bit rough.

It's bedtime anyway, hehehe.

Yeah, that's exactly the reason that I go to bed at 7pm lol, well that and I get up at 4am... it's just so important to get extra sleep when youre doing hcg... at least for me. I even took a nap when I got home too. I need to find a cheap hobby LOL!

So this morning I'm down 1.6 lbs and its my 8th day on vlcd... I'm happy with that. I cut out the sf toriani syrup but I did have some walden farms sf ketchup. The end of the month will be 28 days, I will see where I am at that point and decide what to do. Typically I will loose 15 more pounds in the next 18 days but you never know what might happen.

Have a good day all =) Lara