P2 Simeon's Protocol Week of August 5th

[LaraSuzz]

The manuscript does say that you can omit anything you wish, partly because youre getting all the nutrients and vvitamins from the stored fat.... I think that the goal is to hit the same amount of calories each day to avoid any sort of fluctuation. How many days can you eat just a chicken breast, if the next day you eat all of the items, maybe that caused a fluctuation. I've never gained a pound on protocol unless I willingly went out of my way to cheat. These days I just think that cheating on p2 is just a waste of time and money. Just my opinion...

so I went to the store and tried Walden Farms fat free sugar free no calorie dressings... and to my amazement I actually like the ranch and the sesame. I forgot to look for the bbq sauce but I did find the apple dip... interesting.
I didn't like the Balsamic or the honey mustard... but I bet you could add stuff to it to make it taste decent. They're all p2 legal, wow.

I bought a rotisserie chicken at Sunflower (chicken and salt only in the ingredients), and carefully removed the breast without the skin, used lettuce cups and cilantro with a little ranch and I was in heaven.

Lets see what happens tomorrow! If I gain a pound I will lol

[MissKaylaPaige]

Originally Posted by LaraSuzz

How many days can you eat just a chicken breast, if the next day you eat all of the items, maybe that caused a fluctuation.

Oh no, I have not been eating JUST a chicken breast everyday and then suddenly ate more, I have been eating normally, more like 350-400 calories, but yesterday was just NOT feeling it and only managed to get the one chicken serving down last night, then woke up this morning with a pound gain. Perhaps it was just water weight or something, but I am not pleased at all. I've been trying to chug water like crazy this past month but perhaps it hasn't been enough.

I'm not saying you were going into "starvation mode" and I'm not saying you were hungry either. I'm merely saying that I refuse to believe that eating 150 calories in a day on ANY diet is okay. The idea of that is very scary and I'm only mentioning it because it concerns me.
Are you taking vitamins?

I don't think one day of not eating a lot is anything to be concerned about. When I'm not feeling well if I force myself to eat I'll just throw up and THAT would make things so much worse for me. I got my protein in and that's good enough. Besides, a lot of nutritionists and doctors say that a day of fasting every now and then is GOOD for you. It was just one day of not feeling well enough to eat as usual, it's really nothing to get on me about.

and yeah I'm taking vitamins.

[Reddy]

Originally Posted by MissKaylaPaige

Starvation Mode..and Why You Probably Never Need to Worry About It.

If I were very lean then it might become an issue because at that point my body wouldn't have enough abnormal fat stores to utilize through HCG which THEN might cause my body to freak out, but it also takes long term calorie restriction, 1 day of eating 150 calories won't send my body off the deep end, especially since I've still got quite a bit of fat pudge on my belly for the HCG to use.

Based on your stats, I'm thinking you are probably quite lean.

I think it's important to get in more calories to include at least one veggie and one protein. For health reasons.

As for your moving into P3 and then possibly calling it a PI if you decide you want to go back,I'd be careful. Everything I've read says that PI's CAN possibly make it harder to stabilize.

Also, as I mentioned in the P3 thread, don't jump back to P2 if for the first few days on P3 you gain back a bit. I think that's normal. I was VERY discouraged at first b/c I hated worrying about everyuthing I was eating and seeing the scale go UP instead of down but now for the past two days, I have been holding just below my LIW and I'm feeling a lot better about this. Of course it's up to you but make a note of your LIW and strive to maintain that for now.

[MissKaylaPaige]

I've said it so many times that what happened yesterday is NOT the way I normally do things.

I ALWAYS get both protein and veggie servings in, I just didn't always get the fruit and NEVER ate the grain.

I had ONE DAY (yesterday) where I absolutely could not eat any more than that. I am not going to force myself to eat something just to puke it all up because I felt sick.

Obviously the way I did things worked well for me. I never reached 500 calories but I lost 20 pounds in 20 days and I shouldn't be made to feel bad because I had ONE off day. I think perhaps from now on I will keep to myself.

And as an afternote, upon checking my weight log it turns out I actually did not gain any weight today, I had no movement at all. I had gotten confused about my numbers. Still, I don't think it was necessary for people to harang me about having an off day. It's interesting how when people have a day where they cheat and fall off the wagon they get encouragement and get told it's ok, but when I have an opposite kind of day where I just couldn't get much in at all, I get scolded. Strange...

[Reddy]

I really don't think anyone was trying to make you feel bad. At all.

I think everyone here has given you great support and advice and was just trying to help you figure out why you gained a lb. Although it turns out you didn't so that's good. But I don't see anyone scolding you. I think people are truly trying to be supportive, myself included.

[lisentume]

So looked on my thread to find everyonexand no ones home!! Oh well. Congrats to everyone for their losses!! This is D11 and ive lost 17lbs. Down 1.8 this am. Im also breastfeeding a 6wk old and eating 800-850 cals. Just wanted to say hi and to stay motivated!!!

[LaraSuzz]

dbl post

[LaraSuzz]

I'm down 2 lbs on my 6th day.. just checking in, have a nice day all.

[canook]

2nd day of loading in...up 4 pounds. Ready to get losing!!

[Fat Eddie]

Originally Posted by Reddy

Lara, one of my favorite dinners in P2 was Lemon Tilapia. Super easy and yummy.

Take Tilapia and season it well (I use Adobo, Garlic and Onion Powder, Salt and Pepper and Dill) then take 3 slices of lemon, squeeze them over the fish and place them on top. Wrap it in Tin Foil and put it on grill for about 15 mins (flip half way through) It comes out SOOOO good. And I'm not a fish person.

Reddy, I cooked the talapia and I give it 4 stars(excellent), the only reason I shorted it a star is because a 100g piece really shrinks up.lol.

I have a question for the board: If you are going to do a PI, Dr.S says to stop 3 days before so the HCG leaves the system. So if the HCG leaves the system in 3 days how can you build up an immunity and have to wait 6 weeks between rounds? Doesn't that sound like a contradiction? For a simpilton like me this is confusing. I knew I spent too many years in college, "its a wonder I can think at all".

[Reddy]

So glad you liked it Eddie. My list says 5.55oz of Tilapia so that's how much I made and it felt like an ok portion. (not sure how many grams that is) but again glad you liked it.

Good question about PI... Curious to hear the answer!

[LaraSuzz]

Originally Posted by Fat Eddie

Reddy, I cooked the talapia and I give it 4 stars(excellent), the only reason I shorted it a star is because a 100g piece really shrinks up.lol.

I have a question for the board: If you are going to do a PI, Dr.S says to stop 3 days before so the HCG leaves the system. So if the HCG leaves the system in 3 days how can you build up an immunity and have to wait 6 weeks between rounds? Doesn't that sound like a contradiction? For a simpilton like me this is confusing. I knew I spent too many years in college, "its a wonder I can think at all".

Immunity is not a problem on a scheduled interruption especially if you are on your first round. The immunity issue comes up supposedly when you are doing multiple rounds and you dont wait the aloted 6 weeks 9 weeks 12 weeks etc between rounds. I myself have done multiple rounds and never experienced immunity (ravenous hunger fatigue etc)
when you do a scheduled interruption and you stop the hcg for 72 hours(injections) and still follow very low calorie diet, you might feel extra hungry but this is not a sign of immunity, dont worry.

according to Pounds and Inches a round should last no less than 26 days and no more than 34 lbs lost or 40 injections....
some people do go a lot longer
some people dont wait between rounds
But... sometimes I wonder is that why people gain it back or their skin doesnt bounce back like it should?
My advice would be to follow protocol as best you can... the rules are there for a reason, we might not know exactly why but every time I have strayed I found myself agreeing with the doctor in the end.

Hope I answered your question?

[LaraSuzz]

Down .8 today... but I usually have one werid day in the first week so thats normal. This is my 4th day and I'm down 13.... happy and ready to loose more.

Should we mosey to the new thread?

[dawnyama]

Originally Posted by LaraSuzz

Down .8 today... but I usually have one werid day in the first week so thats normal. This is my 4th day and I'm down 13.... happy and ready to loose more.

Should we mosey to the new thread?

No. Not til tomorrow. It says Aug 13. Don't want to push the weekend away just yet

[Berta48]

Originally Posted by Fat Eddie

Reddy, I cooked the talapia and I give it 4 stars(excellent), the only reason I shorted it a star is because a 100g piece really shrinks up.lol.

I have a question for the board: If you are going to do a PI, Dr.S says to stop 3 days before so the HCG leaves the system. So if the HCG leaves the system in 3 days how can you build up an immunity and have to wait 6 weeks between rounds? Doesn't that sound like a contradiction? For a simpilton like me this is confusing. I knew I spent too many years in college, "its a wonder I can think at all".

Eddie
We can have 3.5 oz weighed raw.Not sure how many gms that would be but I am thinking maybe 125?That is protocol 3.5 oz some eat more... but Pounds and Inches says 3.5 oz on protein.

[Berta48]

Originally Posted by Fat Eddie

Reddy, I cooked the talapia and I give it 4 stars(excellent), the only reason I shorted it a star is because a 100g piece really shrinks up.lol.

I have a question for the board: If you are going to do a PI, Dr.S says to stop 3 days before so the HCG leaves the system. So if the HCG leaves the system in 3 days how can you build up an immunity and have to wait 6 weeks between rounds? Doesn't that sound like a contradiction? For a simpilton like me this is confusing. I knew I spent too many years in college, "its a wonder I can think at all".

Eddie
We can have 3.5 oz weighed raw.Not sure how many gms that would be but I am thinking maybe 100?That is protocol 3.5 oz some people eat more... but Pounds and Inches says 3.5 oz on protein.

[dawnyama]

Berta

100 grams is equal to 3.5 oz.

[Berta48]

Originally Posted by dawnyama

Berta

100 grams is equal to 3.5 oz.

Yep! that is what I had put in my post but wasn't positive
Did you have a nice vacation? I nearly lost my Dh while you were away.
And hip hip horray for Chick FILA!!!

[dawnyama]

Oh my Berta!!! I am so sorry. I DID miss a lot then. Glad to hear you didn't. Whew!!! I am sure he is home by now?

[Berta48]

Originally Posted by dawnyama

Oh my Berta!!! I am so sorry. I DID miss a lot then. Glad to hear you didn't. Whew!!! I am sure he is home by now?

DH went in for minor gall bladder surgery but when they got inside it had rotted and he had gangrene..... it took five hours for the surgery! The gangrene had seeped out into his system and that caused him to stop breathing and have a very rapid heart rate.They transfered him to CCU for five days. Then after that we thought he was doing good... but then his heart started acting up again so they took him in for another procedure and shocked his heart back into rythmn.Since then he seems to be doing good. He has to have some tests tomorrow to check it out.

It was certainly a very scary time.But God is faithful and answered our prayers.
It is nice to have you home.I am on Ph3 now and maintaining pretty well.But still struggling to not eat the wrong things