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dbunny 07-30-2012 08:11 AM

P2 Simeon's Protocol Week of July 30th
 
New thread for the week!

dbunny 07-30-2012 08:14 AM

OK~ after my mishap on Saturday night, I finally weighed and am up .5 from my last weigh in. Hoping for a couple more pounds gone by LDW, which I think will be Friday. Truthfully, I wouldn't mind calling it today, but I am being greedy for just a little more weight loss.

Reddy 07-30-2012 08:14 AM

Thanks for stating a new thread! I'm down .6 today! Tomorrow is my last injection and Friday starts p3!!!

How's everyone else today?

Reddy 07-30-2012 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dbunny (Post 15837277)
OK~ after my mishap on Saturday night, I finally weighed and am up .5 from my last weigh in. Hoping for a couple more pounds gone by LDW, which I think will be Friday. Truthfully, I wouldn't mind calling it today, but I am being greedy for just a little more weight loss.

That's not too bad! Stick with it a few more days and you'll lose that and maybe more!!!

Reddy 07-30-2012 08:17 AM

Oh I have a question... Since tomorrow is last injection - is tomorrows weight my "weight"? The one I have to maintain going forward?

What If I lose in the 72 hours to follow?

Also would it make any sense to make today an apple day? I really want to lose .5-1lb before I call it!

Thanks!

Crazy PreK Teacher 07-30-2012 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reddy (Post 15837287)
Oh I have a question... Since tomorrow is last injection - is tomorrows weight my "weight"? The one I have to maintain going forward?

What If I lose in the 72 hours to follow?

Also would it make any sense to make today an apple day? I really want to lose .5-1lb before I call it!

Thanks!

From my experiences...I lose on the 2 days (not a lot, maybe .5-1.5 lbs.) of VLC/NO drops...BUT...then I re-bound some of it thereafter, then stabilze...so I only use my last drop day weight...so it's not so mental for me...does that make sense?

Reddy 07-30-2012 08:32 AM

That does make sense. So I guess whatever I weigh tomorrow morning will be my weight for the next 6 weeks.

Any thoughts on making today an Apple Day?

I stalled for two days but this morning I was down .6 so technically not a REAL stall.

Would it make sense to do it or no? I just want tomorrow to read 165 or less.

Felina 07-30-2012 08:37 AM

Hi everyone. I started my 3rd round and today is my first day of VLCD. Wish me luck.

Reddy, I always log the LDW on the morning of the last injection.

Crazy PreK Teacher 07-30-2012 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reddy (Post 15837323)
That does make sense. So I guess whatever I weigh tomorrow morning will be my weight for the next 6 weeks.

Any thoughts on making today an Apple Day?

I stalled for two days but this morning I was down .6 so technically not a REAL stall.

Would it make sense to do it or no? I just want tomorrow to read 165 or less.

I wouldn't bother with it...I'd save it for when you really need it. If anything, wait and see how you stabilize next week in P3. The first P3 week is toughest, IMO. Are you planning a full 3 week P3...or a PI? Sometimes I do a 4 day PI and it really helps boost my losses after being on protocol for a LONG time. Maybe you could do that to lose the last few...then go in to full P3??

Just a thought...

Crazy PreK Teacher 07-30-2012 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Felina (Post 15837334)
Hi everyone. I started my 3rd round and today is my first day of VLCD. Wish me luck.

Reddy, I always log the LDW on the morning of the last injection.

Best of luck to you!!!! You will do great...keep posting...that helps me stay accountable. Honestly, I think I would have fallen off the wagon long ago w/o everyone's encouragement & awesome info on these forums :D

lisentume 07-30-2012 08:48 AM

Thanks for the concern! I am done with my load days and started day 3 at 180: no gain or losses. I am drinking mothers milk tea and taking reglan to keep my milk up. My calories will be at 850-900. Ill just use 8oz of protein for lunch and 4.5 for dinner. Ill try this and adjust accordingly. I am not hungry at all this morning. I have one more wk of maternity leave. Ill prob ask for another two wks. With all the craziness of back to school i hope i stay focused on them and not on food!!

Temeka: Why dont you go to dental hygiene school? Youareadychave a dental background and that makes it a little easier to get through the program.

MemoryKeeper 07-30-2012 09:15 AM

VLCD1
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dbunny (Post 15837268)
New thread for the week!

Thanks for starting the thread!

Quote:

Originally Posted by dbunny (Post 15837277)
OK~ after my mishap on Saturday night, I finally weighed and am up .5 from my last weigh in. Hoping for a couple more pounds gone by LDW, which I think will be Friday. Truthfully, I wouldn't mind calling it today, but I am being greedy for just a little more weight loss.

Much luck on getting down some more...may the whoosh fairy visit you for your efforts! woo hoo!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reddy (Post 15837278)
Thanks for stating a new thread! I'm down .6 today! Tomorrow is my last injection and Friday starts p3!!!

How's everyone else today? That's not too bad! Stick with it a few more days and you'll lose that and maybe more!!! Oh I have a question... Since tomorrow is last injection - is tomorrows weight my "weight"? The one I have to maintain going forward?

What If I lose in the 72 hours to follow?

Also would it make any sense to make today an apple day? I really want to lose .5-1lb before I call it! Thanks!

Yay! for P3! So excited for you! Your last day of injection is your LIW (last injection weight) which for hhcg is known as LDW (last dose weight). You call it that day. Hopefully, you drop a few more pounds after and this becomes your wiggle room. It's nice to have in P3! I would not do an apple day unless you have a true stall, but that's just me. Your weight may bounce around more if you do that.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Felina (Post 15837334)
Hi everyone. I started my 3rd round and today is my first day of VLCD. Wish me luck.

Reddy, I always log the LDW on the morning of the last injection.

Good luck Felina. We are doing this round together! I'm on Round 4, and loaded over the weekend! Gained 9.5 pounds! I've never gained so much. EVER. Freaking out a little, but we'll see what tomorrow brings. Excited we will be on this journey together.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crazy PreK Teacher (Post 15837336)
I wouldn't bother with it...I'd save it for when you really need it. If anything, wait and see how you stabilize next week in P3. The first P3 week is toughest, IMO. Are you planning a full 3 week P3...or a PI? Sometimes I do a 4 day PI and it really helps boost my losses after being on protocol for a LONG time. Maybe you could do that to lose the last few...then go in to full P3??

Just a thought...

Angela, are you doing Rx hcg, or hhcg? I have yet to do a PI and I'm curious???

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crazy PreK Teacher (Post 15837343)
Best of luck to you!!!! You will do great...keep posting...that helps me stay accountable. Honestly, I think I would have fallen off the wagon long ago w/o everyone's encouragement & awesome info on these forums :D

Amen to that! The forums are life-savers! Especially when I'm freaking out about 9.5 load gain! Seriously, I'm like huh? when I was looking at the scale.

Quote:

Originally Posted by lisentume (Post 15837367)
Thanks for the concern! I am done with my load days and started day 3 at 180: no gain or losses. I am drinking mothers milk tea and taking reglan to keep my milk up. My calories will be at 850-900. Ill just use 8oz of protein for lunch and 4.5 for dinner. Ill try this and adjust accordingly. I am not hungry at all this morning. I have one more wk of maternity leave. Ill prob ask for another two wks. With all the craziness of back to school i hope i stay focused on them and not on food!!

Temeka: Why dont you go to dental hygiene school? Youareadychave a dental background and that makes it a little easier to get through the program.

I wish I had no gains! Woo hoo! So happy for you! So glad you're not hungry either! Wow! Wow!

Temeka: so frustrating to not be appreciated! Crazy, and for the profits these companies make, it's only a few cents on the dollar to give you your much deserved raise. Good luck!

Like I said my load gain was 9.5 pounds :stars: Trying to wrap my head around that. We'll see what tomorrow brings...

May the scale be kind to all!:heart:

Reddy 07-30-2012 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crazy PreK Teacher (Post 15837336)
I wouldn't bother with it...I'd save it for when you really need it. If anything, wait and see how you stabilize next week in P3. The first P3 week is toughest, IMO. Are you planning a full 3 week P3...or a PI? Sometimes I do a 4 day PI and it really helps boost my losses after being on protocol for a LONG time. Maybe you could do that to lose the last few...then go in to full P3??

Just a thought...

Thank you Angela! I will skip the apple day and save if to use for a CD if needed in P3.

I am planning to do P3 for 3 weeks and then to P4 for a few and then possibly do another short round. (maybe a 15 day?)

I did a 22 day round (would have been 23 but I'm ending a day early so that I can eat more "normally" on my trip this weekend.)

I am about 10-15lbs from my goal so I'm going to see how P3 and P4 go and figure it out from there.

Prior to HCG I did Atkins STRICT Induction for 4 months to try and lost baby weight. I lost about 15-18lbs that way but it was HARD and SO SLOW and for the last month of it I basically hit a plateau and kept gaining and losing the same 5lbs. I'm scared of P3 b/c I don't want to gain too much so I will be watching VERY Carefully. (Also excited to have cream in my coffee, cheese, broccoli etc)

My sons 1st birthday party (and my 32nd bday) is on August 25th. That will be right around the start for P4. I plan to eat what I want (within reason) for our birthday weekend and then assess where I'm at and go from there.

Another question, do you HAVE to do P4 before staring another round or can you do P2 again after just 3 or 4 weeks on P3?

Reddy 07-30-2012 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Felina (Post 15837334)
Hi everyone. I started my 3rd round and today is my first day of VLCD. Wish me luck.

Reddy, I always log the LDW on the morning of the last injection.

GOOD LUCK!!!

Reddy 07-30-2012 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MemoryKeeper (Post 15837427)


Yay! for P3! So excited for you! Your last day of injection is your LIW (last injection weight) which for hhcg is known as LDW (last dose weight). You call it that day. Hopefully, you drop a few more pounds after and this becomes your wiggle room. It's nice to have in P3! I would not do an apple day unless you have a true stall, but that's just me. Your weight may bounce around more if you do that.



Like I said my load gain was 9.5 pounds :stars: Trying to wrap my head around that. We'll see what tomorrow brings...

May the scale be kind to all!:heart:

Thank you! I"m very excited about P3. COFFEE WITH CREAAAAMMMM!! And REAL Deodorant! lol.

I agree, I'd love to have 1-2 lbs wiggle room for P3. Tomorrow morning will be my LIW!!! (eek please hit 165!!)

Is today your first VLCD? I wouldn't worry to much about the loading weight. You'll take it off after a few days for sure!!

Crazy PreK Teacher 07-30-2012 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reddy (Post 15837447)
Thank you Angela! I will skip the apple day and save if to use for a CD if needed in P3.

I am planning to do P3 for 3 weeks and then to P4 for a few and then possibly do another short round. (maybe a 15 day?)

I did a 22 day round (would have been 23 but I'm ending a day early so that I can eat more "normally" on my trip this weekend.)

I am about 10-15lbs from my goal so I'm going to see how P3 and P4 go and figure it out from there.

Prior to HCG I did Atkins STRICT Induction for 4 months to try and lost baby weight. I lost about 15-18lbs that way but it was HARD and SO SLOW and for the last month of it I basically hit a plateau and kept gaining and losing the same 5lbs. I'm scared of P3 b/c I don't want to gain too much so I will be watching VERY Carefully. (Also excited to have cream in my coffee, cheese, broccoli etc)

My sons 1st birthday party (and my 32nd bday) is on August 25th. That will be right around the start for P4. I plan to eat what I want (within reason) for our birthday weekend and then assess where I'm at and go from there.

Another question, do you HAVE to do P4 before staring another round or can you do P2 again after just 3 or 4 weeks on P3?

As far as another round...the minimum days is 21...I would NOT only do a 15 day round...stabilizing would prolly be very difficult.

If you are strict protocol...then YES, do a full P3/P4!

If you go from P3 back into P1/P2...then it is "cycling". Some people do it....some have good results, others don't. I do "cycle", but I have/had a lot of weight to lose. Now I have 38 more lbs. to lose...so once I get to my first major goal...199...I will be doing a complete P3/P4...then another round to get from 199-175 for goal.

Because you have a small amount to lose...most would advise you to do full P3/P4.

HTH

MemoryKeeper 07-30-2012 09:35 AM

Yes is my first day VLC. This is my 4th Round. I do Rx so I cannot cycle and skip P4. I just came off 3 months maintenance. I've never gained so much load weight. It will be interesting to see what the scales say tomorrow....

An apple day is not a correction in P3/P4. That would be too many carbs. There is a thread on correction days:

http://www.lowcarbfriends.com/bbs/hc...-hcg-diet.html

Good luck!

Reddy 07-30-2012 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crazy PreK Teacher (Post 15837484)
As far as another round...the minimum days is 21...I would NOT only do a 15 day round...stabilizing would prolly be very difficult.

If you are strict protocol...then YES, do a full P3/P4!

If you go from P3 back into P1/P2...then it is "cycling". Some people do it....some have good results, others don't. I do "cycle", but I have/had a lot of weight to lose. Now I have 38 more lbs. to lose...so once I get to my first major goal...199...I will be doing a complete P3/P4...then another round to get from 199-175 for goal.

Because you have a small amount to lose...most would advise you to do full P3/P4.

HTH

Ah ok. My friend who did this and turned me onto HCG lost about 65lbs and I think one of her rounds was 15 days so that's where I got that idea but I guess if I'm going to do it again, I'll go for the 21 days and do it right. And per your suggestion, I will do the full P3 / P4. So that means at least 3 weeks on P4 right?

Reddy 07-30-2012 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MemoryKeeper (Post 15837499)
Yes is my first day VLC. This is my 4th Round. I do Rx so I cannot cycle and skip P4. I just came off 3 months maintenance. I've never gained so much load weight. It will be interesting to see what the scales say tomorrow....

An apple day is not a correction in P3/P4. That would be too many carbs. There is a thread on correction days:

http://www.lowcarbfriends.com/bbs/hc...-hcg-diet.html

Good luck!

Thank you. I wasn't sure if apple day was a correction day in P3 or not. Thank you for the link to the threads, I am sure at some point I'll need it ;)

Wishing you lots of luck and losses!!!

Crazy PreK Teacher 07-30-2012 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reddy (Post 15837514)
Ah ok. My friend who did this and turned me onto HCG lost about 65lbs and I think one of her rounds was 15 days so that's where I got that idea but I guess if I'm going to do it again, I'll go for the 21 days and do it right. And per your suggestion, I will do the full P3 / P4. So that means at least 3 weeks on P4 right?

YES...3 weeks of P4...then after next round it would be 6 weeks...but at this point you would prolly use P3/P4 for life-time maintenance...if it's your last round.

Lildrew 07-30-2012 10:00 AM

I am back after a ridiculous weekend of bad eating. :o Thankfully my head is back in the game! :p

MemoryKeeper 07-30-2012 10:27 AM

Being mentally prepared is definitely key! Good luck! Woo hoo!Back in the game!

Berta48 07-30-2012 10:33 AM

Morning everyone!!
Thanks for the new thread!!!
Well I was up .2 today but not enough water i yesterday. I had another stressful day with dh.He had to have his heart shocked back into normal rythmn! That poor man he went in for a MINOR gall baldder surgery and it ended up being MAJOR!:stars:
But it went well and they only had to shock his heart once THANK GOD:aprayer: and he seems to be doing much better. I am hoping to bring him home tomorrow or Wednesday!!:aprayer:



ANGELA
I have a concern here and don't know what to do.

I started the round2 PH2 on June16th and stopped on July 8th then did 3 days vlcdays.(total of 23days) Then we went to Whicita for about seven days and maintained. Dh got sick and so I did not go back to PH2 until this past Tuesday24th. So I have been on it for 7days now making it this round 31days(I think) plus the two weeks interuption. Anyway it seems my HCG may have lost it's potency( I mixed it on July 5th)? I have been being hungry for the last two dys. I am buying a PG test today and test it to see.If it's bad I will be going to PH3. Will it be ok to do PH3 for four weeks instead of three, then back to PH2? And if I don't do a PH4 what will that hurt?

OR to do 3weeks of PH3 and then PH2 & take a 2 weeks interuption and back to PH3 for a while?Or just do a short 21 day VLC days?

Sorry for all the questions... you would think I would know after this much time but it seems my mind isn't working properly here lately with the stress of things:o

Reddy 07-30-2012 10:42 AM

Wow Berta, he really has been through a lot. I hope you can take him home tomorrow or Wednesday too! :hugs:

Crazy PreK Teacher 07-30-2012 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MemoryKeeper (Post 15837427)
Angela, are you doing Rx hcg, or hhcg? I have yet to do a PI and I'm curious???





I am on hHCG.

The reasons why I do a PI...

1. is to put some fats back in to my system...I start feeling really tired...especially when my round has been extra long (69, 54 days)

2. is to get a variety so I'm not bored w/ same ole' stuff...if not I tend to "cheat"...little bite here & there=not good!

3. is to boost my losses if they have slowed for 4-5 days or more, so I can continue the round after the PI

4. 3 weeks is too long for me to handle P3 right now(4 days is min. for PI & 14 days max.)...I have issues with keeping up with the needed calories in order not to gain during P3

5. When I do a P3...it is for 13 days...so I do NOT have to load...I do not enjoy loading (heavy loads vs. NO loads do not affect me any differently...very minimal hunger either way) so to me it is silly to load & gain tons of weight...I know it's protocol...but I have issues w/ having to re-lose it if it isn't totally necessary

cynthm 07-30-2012 11:22 AM

Back to HCG for 2nd round! First day of P2 today. I did my first round of HCG in December, and lost only 8 pounds, but I cheated like crazy!! So, this time, I am going to do much better at sticking to the calorie limit, and the food limits, with more types of veggies thrown in. I just cannot do it with only the limited veggies allowed, I already know that, so I will definitely do better with more (low carb type) veggies. I was over at JUDDD for a few weeks, and while I really liked it, I want to see faster results right now, so I'm giving HCG a shot again. The good thing about JUDDD was that I actually got used to the 500 to 600 calorie eating range, and don't feel deprived at that level any more, as opposed to the first time around on HCG. I'm much better prepared this time! I'm breaking it down to one-week increments....only thinking about this week; next week I will deal with when it comes around :o)

moonriver 07-30-2012 11:34 AM

Was going down nicely, this am gained 1.2...errrrr! Oh, well, tomorrow is another day.....:)

Crazy PreK Teacher 07-30-2012 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Berta48 (Post 15837648)
Morning everyone!!
Thanks for the new thread!!!
Well I was up .2 today but not enough water i yesterday. I had another stressful day with dh.He had to have his heart shocked back into normal rythmn! That poor man he went in for a MINOR gall baldder surgery and it ended up being MAJOR!:stars:
But it went well and they only had to shock his heart once THANK GOD:aprayer: and he seems to be doing much better. I am hoping to bring him home tomorrow or Wednesday!!:aprayer:


So sorry about hubby!:console: Before you know it...you'll be home with him.


ANGELA
I have a concern here and don't know what to do.

I started the round2 PH2 on June16th and stopped on July 8th then did 3 days vlcdays.(total of 23days) Then we went to Whicita for about seven days and maintained. Dh got sick and so I did not go back to PH2 until this past Tuesday24th. So I have been on it for 7days now making it this round 31days(I think) plus the two weeks interuption. Anyway it seems my HCG may have lost it's potency( I mixed it on July 5th)? I have been being hungry for the last two dys. I am buying a PG test today and test it to see.If it's bad I will be going to PH3. Will it be ok to do PH3 for four weeks instead of three, then back to PH2? And if I don't do a PH4 what will that hurt?

I believe you can do P3 as long as you want. I plan on doing it for maintenance, myself.

OR to do 3weeks of PH3 and then PH2 & take a 2 weeks interuption and back to PH3 for a while?Or just do a short 21 day VLC days?

As far as no P4...I don't honestly know if it would hurt you or not...I haven't done a P4 yet...I "cycle" back to P2.

"do 3 weeks of PH3 and then PH2 & take a 2 weeks interuption and back to P3? or P2? for a while?" do you mean P2, then 2 weeks PI, then back to P2?





Sorry for all the questions... you would think I would know after this much time but it seems my mind isn't working properly here lately with the stress of things:o



LOL...my brain gets mixed up even when I'm not stressed...at least you have an excuse :hyst:

MemoryKeeper 07-30-2012 12:08 PM

Angela, after a 9.5 gain I TOTALLY GET IT! Thanks for sharing! Wow, we are all working so hard on this!

Moonriver, boo hiss...hoping for a whoosh tomorrow!

Cynthm good luck. I'm just starting a new round as well (Round 4)...

Crazy1 07-30-2012 12:19 PM

Hello Everyone,
Today is the end of R3P2. My LDW is 168. Not as much as I would have liked but lower than I have been in 15 years. Only a loss of 12 pounds (haven't had my measurements taken yet today) but the inches have been coming off and to reset my weight makes it all worthwhile. I'll do P3/P4 and then start another round in the fall. Happy losses to you all.


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