P2 Simeon's Protocol Week of July 30th - Page 2

Reddy · 07-30-2012, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Crazy1

Hello Everyone,
Today is the end of R3P2. My LDW is 168. Not as much as I would have liked but lower than I have been in 15 years. Only a loss of 12 pounds (haven't had my measurements taken yet today) but the inches have been coming off and to reset my weight makes it all worthwhile. I'll do P3/P4 and then start another round in the fall. Happy losses to you all.

Congrats on your loss and yay for p3!!!

shelbyla · 07-30-2012, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Berta48

I have a concern here and don't know what to do.

I started the round2 PH2 on June16th and stopped on July 8th then did 3 days vlcdays.(total of 23days) Then we went to Whicita for about seven days and maintained. Dh got sick and so I did not go back to PH2 until this past Tuesday24th. So I have been on it for 7days now making it this round 31days(I think) plus the two weeks interuption. Anyway it seems my HCG may have lost it's potency( I mixed it on July 5th)? I have been being hungry for the last two dys. I am buying a PG test today and test it to see.If it's bad I will be going to PH3. Will it be ok to do PH3 for four weeks instead of three, then back to PH2? And if I don't do a PH4 what will that hurt?

OR to do 3weeks of PH3 and then PH2 & take a 2 weeks interuption and back to PH3 for a while?Or just do a short 21 day VLC days?

Berta - I hope you figure out your situation with your drops. It sucks to be hungry. Also, prayers for your hubs to get well!

I know you didn't ask me but I'm going to throw in my 2 cents anyway about your round. Since you switched to rx hCG, you CANNOT skip P4 because you risk immunity to the hCG. In fact, your P4 needs to be LONGER if you are doing rx for a second round. Go back to P&I and the exact length is in the section about "further courses"--pretty close to the end. **I looked--P3 is 3 weeks and P4 5 weeks after your second rx hCG course** You can obviously do P3 for as long as you choose (i.e. don't add starches at week 4), but the amount of time in between can't be less than 6 weeks between round 1 and round 2 and 8 weeks between round 2 and round 3 using rx. (Sorry!)

MissKaylaPaige · 07-30-2012, 03:55 PM

Hi all, still steadily losing. Down 12.5 in 13 days.

I'm finding now that this isn't necessarily hard anymore, it's just insanely boring lol. Looking forward to P3.

VTmommy · 07-30-2012, 03:58 PM

hi ladies!

Another wedding weekend behind me, done with those for the summer, phew! I ate fine (i think) but had a couple drinks...ugh. So i'm up 2lbs today. ARGH! So today is day 22 for me. I think I'm going to try for close to 40....I don't have anything on my calendar that should slow me down...other than the boredom (I'm SO with you Kayla!).

Plus P3 is scaring me a bit, lol

And can someone tell me what PI is? I'm totally confused by that one

shelbyla · 07-30-2012, 04:17 PM

PI = planned interruption

VTmommy · 07-30-2012, 04:33 PM

Thank you Shelby!!

shelbyla · 07-30-2012, 05:44 PM

Btw - caught up on last week's thread and I highly HIGHLY discourage doing apple days if you do not need them or if you are even within a couple days of the end of your round. I get it--I TOTALLY do!

You want to be able to say that you lost as much weight as possible. BUT there is VERY often a bounce back from apple days, especially if you don't "lock in" your weight with a decent stretch of vlcd afterwards. This happened to a friend of mine--apple day in her last week and after starting P3, she immediately jumped up to where she was before the apple day. She stabilized about 6 over LDW. Do you really want to risk it?

Point one - You actually WANT your LDW to be higher, not lower.

Think about it this way... The day of your last dose, you weigh 200 pounds. In the following days on the VLC without hcg, you lose two more pounds. So you are at 198. That gives you leeway to gain FOUR pounds before doing a correction day. We call this "wiggle room" around here and we usually NEED it when we start eating P3--trust me on this!

But let's say you do an apple day and lose 2 pounds. You are 200 on the day before LDD and 198 on LDD, so your ending weight is 198. You IMMEDIATELY bounce back those 2 pounds to 200. So now you are 2 pounds OVER LDW and should do a correction day. But you are still on the VLCDs with no hcg. You aren't even in P3 yet and you need a cd. WTH??? Not a good thing!

Point two - You lose the weight you lose, in P2, P3, or P4. It is all counted as one "round."

It is JUST a number on a scale and a total number of pounds. And if you go down 2 more pounds in the vlcd's with no HCG, there is NOTHING stopping you from saying you lost 25 pounds (or whatever) in your round. There is nothing wrong with saying "my lowest is 198" not 200. Repeat after me--IT IS JUST A NUMBER. Kwim?

Point three - The object of P3 is not to lose weight, it is to stabilize at +/- 2 from LDW but I do NOT know a single person on this board who worries if they go below 2 under LDW, as long as it isn't excessive.

You shouldn't really TRY to lose weight by cutting calories or increasing exercise excessively but if you lose a little more naturally, while eating enough food, not starving yourself, or overexercising, you should be fine.

I will get off my soapbox now.

Hope some of that is helpful!

Reddy · 07-30-2012, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by shelbyla

Btw - caught up on last week's thread and I highly HIGHLY discourage doing apple days if you do not need them or if you are even within a couple days of the end of your round. I get it--I TOTALLY do!

You want to be able to say that you lost as much weight as possible. BUT there is VERY often a bounce back from apple days, especially if you don't "lock in" your weight with a decent stretch of vlcd afterwards. This happened to a friend of mine--apple day in her last week and after starting P3, she immediately jumped up to where she was before the apple day. She stabilized about 6 over LDW. Do you really want to risk it?

Point one - You actually WANT your LDW to be higher, not lower.

Think about it this way... The day of your last dose, you weigh 200 pounds. In the following days on the VLC without hcg, you lose two more pounds. So you are at 198. That gives you leeway to gain FOUR pounds before doing a correction day. We call this "wiggle room" around here and we usually NEED it when we start eating P3--trust me on this!

But let's say you do an apple day and lose 2 pounds. You are 200 on the day before LDD and 198 on LDD, so your ending weight is 198. You IMMEDIATELY bounce back those 2 pounds to 200. So now you are 2 pounds OVER LDW and should do a correction day. But you are still on the VLCDs with no hcg. You aren't even in P3 yet and you need a cd. WTH??? Not a good thing!

Point two - You lose the weight you lose, in P2, P3, or P4. It is all counted as one "round."

It is JUST a number on a scale and a total number of pounds. And if you go down 2 more pounds in the vlcd's with no HCG, there is NOTHING stopping you from saying you lost 25 pounds (or whatever) in your round. There is nothing wrong with saying "my lowest is 198" not 200. Repeat after me--IT IS JUST A NUMBER. Kwim?

Point three - The object of P3 is not to lose weight, it is to stabilize at +/- 2 from LDW but I do NOT know a single person on this board who worries if they go below 2 under LDW, as long as it isn't excessive.

You shouldn't really TRY to lose weight by cutting calories or increasing exercise excessively but if you lose a little more naturally, while eating enough food, not starving yourself, or overexercising, you should be fine.

I will get off my soapbox now.

Hope some of that is helpful!

Thank you So much! Makes total sense and I definitely would love to have that Wiggle Room so I'm not going to do an apple day. Tomorrow morning will be my LIW and I'm hoping it will be 165.0 or less! He'res hoping!!

Berta48 · 07-30-2012, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Crazy PreK Teacher

LOL...my brain gets mixed up even when I'm not stressed...at least you have an excuse

Hey you didn't even answer my questions girlfriend!

But it's ok my PG test came out positive so I am pregnant

Told my husband that tonight and he said WHAT????? He knows I had a hysterectomy 30years ago

So on with PH2!!!!!!!!

Crazy PreK Teacher · 07-30-2012, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Berta48

Hey you didn't even answer my questions girlfriend!

But it's ok my PG test came out positive so I am pregnant

Told my husband that tonight and he said WHAT????? He knows I had a hysterectomy 30years ago

So on with PH2!!!!!!!!

Too funny...pregnant

yes...did answer...I responded to the questions in bold under each of your questions

********see post #28********

Berta48 · 07-30-2012, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Felina

Hi everyone. I started my 3rd round and today is my first day of VLCD. Wish me luck.

Reddy, I always log the LDW on the morning of the last injection.

Berta48 · 07-30-2012, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Crazy PreK Teacher

Too funny...pregnant

yes...did answer...I responded to the questions in bold under each of your questions

********see post #28********

I am having alot of senior moments these days!!!!Thank you Angela.
I guess since my drops are still good I will continue until they are gone.It looks to me like maybe another four or five days. I really would like to get at 238 before going on to PH3&PH4.

So that would be another five lbs it's feasible but not probable(spelled wrong?)

I was thinking round 2 was 8weeks for PH4?

Berta48 · 07-30-2012, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by shelbyla

Berta - I hope you figure out your situation with your drops. It sucks to be hungry. Also, prayers for your hubs to get well!

I know you didn't ask me but I'm going to throw in my 2 cents anyway about your round. Since you switched to rx hCG, you CANNOT skip P4 because you risk immunity to the hCG. In fact, your P4 needs to be LONGER if you are doing rx for a second round. Go back to P&I and the exact length is in the section about "further courses"--pretty close to the end. **I looked--P3 is 3 weeks and P4 5 weeks after your second rx hCG course** You can obviously do P3 for as long as you choose (i.e. don't add starches at week 4), but the amount of time in between can't be less than 6 weeks between round 1 and round 2 and 8 weeks between round 2 and round 3 using rx. (Sorry!)

Shelby

I haven't been hungry today at all so I guess like CMarie said it takes a few days to kick in. I am 30 lbs lost so far in 3 months so I plan to do PH3& PH4 this time. However I thought on your 2nd round PH3 was 3 weeks PH4 eight weeks? But you say five weeks? SO on RND 3 it will be PH3 3weeks PH4 6weeks?Is that correct? How about rnd 4 is it always 3weeks for PH3?

I have done PH2 for 31 days today with a 2 week interuption in between.I have around five more days of doses left.I hope!

You would think I would get this one of these days

Also I was under the impression PH2 was the only Phase you lost weight on?Lord help me

cocoapeanut · 07-30-2012, 09:18 PM

Berta -- save this, perhaps print it out.

Time between R1 and R2: 6 weeks
Time between R2 and R3: 8 weeks
Time between R3 and R4: 12 weeks
Time between R4 and R5: 20 weeks
Time between R5 and R6: 6 months

You always spend at least 3 weeks in P3, but can do it longer if you'd like! You're good as long as you've done it for 3 weeks at the very least.

Berta48 · 07-30-2012, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by cocoapeanut

Berta -- save this, perhaps print it out.

Time between R1 and R2: 6 weeks
Time between R2 and R3: 8 weeks
Time between R3 and R4: 12 weeks
Time between R4 and R5: 20 weeks
Time between R5 and R6: 6 months

You always spend at least 3 weeks in P3, but can do it longer if you'd like! You're good as long as you've done it for 3 weeks at the very least.

Thanks Cocoa

Wow that's alooooooong time between rounds

And I have about six more to go

I was hoping to have this off in a year

I guess I am a ding-a-ling but what do they mean between rounds Like rnd 1&2-6weeks then rnd 2 again

Why not just say rnd 2 ph4... 6week
rnd 3 ph4.... 8 weeks
rnd 5 ph4.... 20 weeks
rnd 6 ph4...6 months

christyb · 07-30-2012, 10:27 PM

I'm glad you posted that reminder, cocoapeanut! Of course, my doc would have reminded me eventually, but I have been doing the math about how long it would take me to get to goal wrong in my head. I was leaving out the increased time between rounds.

I thought I could be down 100 pounds by June of next year (at 20 pounds/round and 28 days per round). But I just counted it all out and it's more like October of next year.

And don't even talk to me about getting to goal!! With that 6 months between round I'm well past the middle of 2014 to get to goal!

I know it's still good and I should be happy. But that just feels like forever! Of course it's much shorter than the long amount of time I've spent fat and miserable!

But I will plug away at it! I'm determined to do it right so I only have to do it once (fingers crossed!).

cocoapeanut · 07-30-2012, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Berta48

Thanks Cocoa

Wow that's alooooooong time between rounds

And I have about six more to go

I was hoping to have this off in a year

I guess I am a ding-a-ling but what do they mean between rounds Like rnd 1&2-6weeks then rnd 2 again

Why not just say rnd 2 ph4... 6week
rnd 3 ph4.... 8 weeks
rnd 5 ph4.... 20 weeks
rnd 6 ph4...6 months

Because the time between rounds includes both P3 and P4. So if you have 8 weeks from the end of one P2 until the start of your next P2, that means you spend 3 weeks in P3 and 5 weeks in P4.

MissKaylaPaige · 07-31-2012, 12:11 AM

Did my weekly measurements and lost 8 total body inches this week. That's 19 inches total since the start. Woop!

Got my first compliment today, my mother noticed I look thinner. Sure, it's just my mom but HEY I'll take it

I also wanna just vent something here because I've kept it in so much and I shouldn't any longer.... I've been very heartbroken over a stupid man who loves to string me along to stroke his own ego. I know that he's no good for me and I'll find someone better and all that, but that knowledge alone doesn't help my heart feel better currently so I guess the only way to help is to vent it out. I spent 3 years being hopelessly fallen for him, but he never wanted to make me his girlfriend and I was an idiot and kept waiting and waiting and catering to everything he wanted hoping he'd see what a good catch I was and finally make me his own. I know. Stupid stupid stupid. I cut things off finally about a year ago, and he's kept contact with me on and off, wanting to see me and even once about 4 months ago saying he regretted not making me his girlfriend and wanted a chance to do things right and be in a relationship with me. I was wary so I told him I didn't quite wanna jump into anything because I wasn't sure if I could trust him. Instead of putting in the effort to show me he really wanted me, he immediately gave up and stopped contacting me, making it pretty obvious he wasn't being serious about really wanting a relationship. Well, 2 weeks ago he starts contacting me again, flirting, talking about old times and such, how he wished I was there to watch this certain show we always watched together etc. Last week I was browsing his facebook and noticed a message a friend of his posted about his NEW GIRLFRIEND. I was shocked. He deleted that message within an hour of it being posted. He clearly had been trying to hide her from me. Next time he texted me being flirty I told him he really shouldn't be thinking about me like this when he has a girlfriend. Completely caught red handed he writes back with "It's not like I actually WANT you, I'm just remembering old times is all". All this week he kept posting on his facebook "Oh my girlfriend is so amazing" and "oh she's so beautiful and wonderful" and surely trying to rub it in my face. He also kept finding reasons all week though to be flirty with me and I finally told him that he has to stop it, that I can't handle being strung along. Welp, he deleted me off his facebook, deleted me off of AIM, and basically dropped me off the face of the earth. Not what I expected, but I suppose it'll be for the best. Even though I'm still so hung up on him I know I don't wanna be with the kind of guy who still strings along other girls when he's still got a girlfriend who's totally in the dark about what he's really doing...

Ugh. Just want my heart to stop hurting. He's absolutely sadistic.

ColleenMA66 · 07-31-2012, 03:58 AM

Kayla, you are way to pretty to be putting up with a jerk like that. You are right. There is someone better for you. What a tool.....it's funny how people get all pissed off when we don't give them what they want. It's a shame you didn't get to the delete button before he did...that would have gone up his butt sideways lol

We all have that someone in our life that just can twist us right up. I saw mine a couple of months ago out of the blue (hadn't seen him in over 12 yrs) and I'm happy in a relationship and I was still a mess for 2 days!! And I don't want him back lol but it still messed me up.

You'll get over this idiot. Congrats on your great losses btw!

Fat Eddie · 07-31-2012, 05:47 AM

First off Kayla you are so lucky to be rid of this dishonest worthless idiot. I really feel bad for his "new girlfriend" as she has no idea what a user he is. What I can tell by your posts is that you are intelligent, honest caring woman and you will find the right man in time. I'm glad you moved on, hopefully. Btw I know this is chick stuff but not all us straight traditional man are jerks That's my 2 cents.

Now for my stupid mistake I committed this am. I was mixing up my 2nd batch of hcg for my next round of injections. So I put 1ml of bac water into the hcg vial and forgot to add the other 4ml and in short injected myself with a mega dose of hcg before I realized it. So the only thing I can do now is skip tommorrow's dose and hope for the best. What a dummy!!!!

LaraSuzz · 07-31-2012, 06:15 AM

Kayla, I agree with Eddie and Coleen... you're worth more than that, and when you find the right man who puts you on a pedestal and treats you like no man has ever treated you before, you will never ever want to go back to that kind of relationship.
Here's what I know... This new girlfriend wont last long and when he gets dumped, which he deserves, he will come running back and you will have to be strong and remember why you dont want that in your life. Because thats how karma works. Hold out for someone who adores you. Who goes out of their way to be thoughtful just because.
Now its time to be your best friend and take care of you.

just my two cents, hope it helps ~Lara

LaraSuzz · 07-31-2012, 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Eddie

First off Kayla you are so lucky to be rid of this dishonest worthless idiot. I really feel bad for his "new girlfriend" as she has no idea what a user he is. What I can tell by your posts is that you are intelligent, honest caring woman and you will find the right man in time. I'm glad you moved on, hopefully. Btw I know this is chick stuff but not all us straight traditional man are jerks That's my 2 cents.

Now for my stupid mistake I committed this am. I was mixing up my 2nd batch of hcg for my next round of injections. So I put 1ml of bac water into the hcg vial and forgot to add the other 4ml and in short injected myself with a mega dose of hcg before I realized it. So the only thing I can do now is skip tommorrow's dose and hope for the best. What a dummy!!!!

Don't skip tomorrows dose... at worst you will just loose less that day or feel more hungry. If you skip you will slow down the process... unless youre skipping every 7th day. does everyone agre with that?

Fat Eddie · 07-31-2012, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by LaraSuzz

Don't skip tomorrows dose... at worst you will just loose less that day or feel more hungry. If you skip you will slow down the process... unless youre skipping every 7th day. does everyone agre with that?

Thanks Lara. That's why I posted this mistake because I need a consensus. I used to be a paramedic you think I would know better, duh.

LaraSuzz · 07-31-2012, 06:40 AM

No worries we've all made booboo's. I just think that if youre at the end of your round you are likely to feel icky if you dont dose tomorrow. Like if you were trying to stop at the the end of a round you will get a little weak and very hungry... no need for that. Chances are you wont even see a difference.

lisentume · 07-31-2012, 06:49 AM

Kayla, I was heartbroken after reading your post. We all make a mistake like that oonce in our lives so dont beat yourself up. You are SUCH a pretty girl. WOW!!! Congrats on your losses!!

Day 2: lost 3.8 pounds!! I had to get on again to be sure! Woop woop!! So i had an apple and decaf coffee for breakfast, 8oz of chicken breast and lettuce for lunch with a mojito dressing (too the pak of mojito from walmart and added lime juice and a little apple cider vinegar, yum!) Snack was a gluten free rice cake and dinner was 6 oz of sirloin with asparagus. I think this time i will break up the chicken to 2 oz midmorning snack with 1/2 apple. It isxdefinitely mind over matter. LOTS LOTS of yummy decaf tea with stevea to curb my sweet tooth. Lots of water. Milk supply is great. Drank 3; cups of mothers milk tea yesterday. Really excited about what tomorrows losses will bring!!

junkn · 07-31-2012, 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by LaraSuzz

Kayla, I agree with Eddie and Coleen... you're worth more than that, and when you find the right man who puts you on a pedestal and treats you like no man has ever treated you before, you will never ever want to go back to that kind of relationship.
Here's what I know... This new girlfriend wont last long and when he gets dumped, which he deserves, he will come running back and you will have to be strong and remember why you dont want that in your life. Because thats how karma works. Hold out for someone who adores you. Who goes out of their way to be thoughtful just because.
Now its time to be your best friend and take care of you.

just my two cents, hope it helps ~Lara

THIS!!

kayla- i know it sucks so bad. i was in a REALLY bad relationship for YEARS and it turned me off on any relationship. and then when i at least expected it, the man of my dreams comes along and sweeps me off of my feet. he treated me GREAT which i wasn't used to but realize is normal and the way i deserved to be treated.

we are now married and have a 3 yr old son and i am happier now than ever.

looking back, i never realized how bad it was when i was IN IT.

he is no good for you and i am so glad that you are blocked from his facebook because you do not need to have contact with him or see what he is up to.

as hard as it is to do, move on and forget about him. it CAN be done

Reddy · 07-31-2012, 07:29 AM

Kayla I second what all the others said! It's probably better that he deleted you so you don't have to see his immature attempts to make you jealous! He's not worthy of you and like Lara said, when he comes running back - for a flirtatious ego boost or whatever DO NOT RESPOND!!! Hang in there!

In my experience all it takes to get over a jerk like that is to find someone new to focus on!

Reddy · 07-31-2012, 07:31 AM

Listetume - congrats on that great loss!!!

I'm sooo happy to report today my LIW is 164!!!!!

My goal for the round was 165 so I'm so excited! 18lbs lost in 20 days!

If I lose another lb or two before starting P3- bonus!!!

Measurements this week only changed by 1 inch in the waist but that's ok.

Total inches lost since starting about 9!!! I'll take it!

On Thursday morning I will do measurements one more time and take my "after" photo and it will be really interesting to compare!

Berta48 · 07-31-2012, 09:05 AM

Good Morning HCGERS

I am down 1 more lb this week making that 5.8 more lost in a week today!

17lbs so far this round! ONLY 16 the first round cause I cheated and gained about four back

Kayla

I agree with everyone else,I went with a guy many many years ago for three years... thought I was his one and only as he was mine. Then saw him with someone else one night when he was suppose to be working

Yah right

He says I have never made a commitment to you... you were free to see whoever you wanted.Yet the whole time(3years) He told me how much he loved me and adored me

That was it for me.... no more... bye bye guy

Now I am married to my best friend, he loves me treats me like a queen & makes me laugh

I see the other jerk and cannot believe I even cared about him

dbunny · 07-31-2012, 09:19 AM

Yay Reddy!
MissKaylaPaige~ Hugs to you.. Men can be so evil. Best to leave that one where he belongs: in the PAST!
Back to my Saturday AM weight~ Note to self (and others) Cheating is NOT WORTH IT! I could be going into P3 by Thursday, had I not cheated. Instead, I have to wait until I get to my goal~ 2.5 pounds away. Boo for cheating!

07-30-2012, 10:27 PM	#46
christyb Senior LCF Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 166 Gallery: christyb Stats: 272/235/130 WOE: rx HCG injections - R2P3 Start Date: June 14, 2012	I'm glad you posted that reminder, cocoapeanut! Of course, my doc would have reminded me eventually, but I have been doing the math about how long it would take me to get to goal wrong in my head. I was leaving out the increased time between rounds. I thought I could be down 100 pounds by June of next year (at 20 pounds/round and 28 days per round). But I just counted it all out and it's more like October of next year. And don't even talk to me about getting to goal!! With that 6 months between round I'm well past the middle of 2014 to get to goal! I know it's still good and I should be happy. But that just feels like forever! Of course it's much shorter than the long amount of time I've spent fat and miserable! But I will plug away at it! I'm determined to do it right so I only have to do it once (fingers crossed!). __________________ Christy "What doesn't kill you makes you stronger!"

07-31-2012, 06:15 AM	#51
LaraSuzz Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Tucson, Arizona Posts: 1,777 Gallery: LaraSuzz Stats: baby steps WOE: Dr. Atw Simeons Protocol Start Date: restart 3/5/2012 multiple rounds	Kayla, I agree with Eddie and Coleen... you're worth more than that, and when you find the right man who puts you on a pedestal and treats you like no man has ever treated you before, you will never ever want to go back to that kind of relationship. Here's what I know... This new girlfriend wont last long and when he gets dumped, which he deserves, he will come running back and you will have to be strong and remember why you dont want that in your life. Because thats how karma works. Hold out for someone who adores you. Who goes out of their way to be thoughtful just because. Now its time to be your best friend and take care of you. just my two cents, hope it helps ~Lara __________________ The jump is so frightening between where I am and where I want to be. Because of all I may become, I will close my eyes and leap. - Mary Anne Radmacher

07-31-2012, 07:31 AM	#58
Reddy Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: FL Posts: 869 Gallery: Reddy Stats: Start 181/ RI 164 / R2 156/ Cur- 155.2/ Goal 150 WOE: Low Carb / HCG Start Date: July 9th	Listetume - congrats on that great loss!!! I'm sooo happy to report today my LIW is 164!!!!! My goal for the round was 165 so I'm so excited! 18lbs lost in 20 days! If I lose another lb or two before starting P3- bonus!!! Measurements this week only changed by 1 inch in the waist but that's ok. Total inches lost since starting about 9!!! I'll take it! On Thursday morning I will do measurements one more time and take my "after" photo and it will be really interesting to compare! Last edited by Reddy; 07-31-2012 at 07:44 AM..

07-31-2012, 09:05 AM	#59
Berta48 Berta48 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: MO Posts: 6,759 Gallery: Berta48 Stats: SparkP/242.8/temp goal 230(10lbs @ time) WOE: Counting Calories 1200-1500 daily Start Date: Feb 28th 2013	Good Morning HCGERS I am down 1 more lb this week making that 5.8 more lost in a week today! 17lbs so far this round! ONLY 16 the first round cause I cheated and gained about four back Kayla I agree with everyone else,I went with a guy many many years ago for three years... thought I was his one and only as he was mine. Then saw him with someone else one night when he was suppose to be workingYah right He says I have never made a commitment to you... you were free to see whoever you wanted.Yet the whole time(3years) He told me how much he loved me and adored me That was it for me.... no more... bye bye guy Now I am married to my best friend, he loves me treats me like a queen & makes me laugh I see the other jerk and cannot believe I even cared about him Last edited by Berta48; 07-31-2012 at 09:34 AM..

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07-30-2012, 03:55 PM	#33
MissKaylaPaige Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 86 Gallery: MissKaylaPaige	Hi all, still steadily losing. Down 12.5 in 13 days. I'm finding now that this isn't necessarily hard anymore, it's just insanely boring lol. Looking forward to P3.

07-30-2012, 03:58 PM	#34
VTmommy Junior LCF Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Vermont Posts: 38 Gallery: VTmommy Stats: 219/200/165 WOE: HCG Start Date: July 6, 2012 (first round HCG)	hi ladies! Another wedding weekend behind me, done with those for the summer, phew! I ate fine (i think) but had a couple drinks...ugh. So i'm up 2lbs today. ARGH! So today is day 22 for me. I think I'm going to try for close to 40....I don't have anything on my calendar that should slow me down...other than the boredom (I'm SO with you Kayla!). Plus P3 is scaring me a bit, lol And can someone tell me what PI is? I'm totally confused by that one

07-30-2012, 04:17 PM	#35
shelbyla Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 4,673 Gallery: shelbyla Stats: 210/141/140 WOE: hhCG, rx hCG Start Date: rx hCG R5 start 08/11/12	PI = planned interruption

07-30-2012, 04:33 PM	#36
VTmommy Junior LCF Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Vermont Posts: 38 Gallery: VTmommy Stats: 219/200/165 WOE: HCG Start Date: July 6, 2012 (first round HCG)	Thank you Shelby!!

07-30-2012, 05:44 PM	#37
shelbyla Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 4,673 Gallery: shelbyla Stats: 210/141/140 WOE: hhCG, rx hCG Start Date: rx hCG R5 start 08/11/12	Btw - caught up on last week's thread and I highly HIGHLY discourage doing apple days if you do not need them or if you are even within a couple days of the end of your round. I get it--I TOTALLY do! You want to be able to say that you lost as much weight as possible. BUT there is VERY often a bounce back from apple days, especially if you don't "lock in" your weight with a decent stretch of vlcd afterwards. This happened to a friend of mine--apple day in her last week and after starting P3, she immediately jumped up to where she was before the apple day. She stabilized about 6 over LDW. Do you really want to risk it? Point one - You actually WANT your LDW to be higher, not lower. Think about it this way... The day of your last dose, you weigh 200 pounds. In the following days on the VLC without hcg, you lose two more pounds. So you are at 198. That gives you leeway to gain FOUR pounds before doing a correction day. We call this "wiggle room" around here and we usually NEED it when we start eating P3--trust me on this! But let's say you do an apple day and lose 2 pounds. You are 200 on the day before LDD and 198 on LDD, so your ending weight is 198. You IMMEDIATELY bounce back those 2 pounds to 200. So now you are 2 pounds OVER LDW and should do a correction day. But you are still on the VLCDs with no hcg. You aren't even in P3 yet and you need a cd. WTH??? Not a good thing! Point two - You lose the weight you lose, in P2, P3, or P4. It is all counted as one "round." It is JUST a number on a scale and a total number of pounds. And if you go down 2 more pounds in the vlcd's with no HCG, there is NOTHING stopping you from saying you lost 25 pounds (or whatever) in your round. There is nothing wrong with saying "my lowest is 198" not 200. Repeat after me--IT IS JUST A NUMBER. Kwim? Point three - The object of P3 is not to lose weight, it is to stabilize at +/- 2 from LDW but I do NOT know a single person on this board who worries if they go below 2 under LDW, as long as it isn't excessive. You shouldn't really TRY to lose weight by cutting calories or increasing exercise excessively but if you lose a little more naturally, while eating enough food, not starving yourself, or overexercising, you should be fine. I will get off my soapbox now. Hope some of that is helpful!

07-30-2012, 09:18 PM	#44
cocoapeanut Senior LCF Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 441 Gallery: cocoapeanut Stats: 5'10" 220/170/150 (pudgy/decent/toned) WOE: RX hCG R3P3 Start Date: 4/21/12	Berta -- save this, perhaps print it out. Time between R1 and R2: 6 weeks Time between R2 and R3: 8 weeks Time between R3 and R4: 12 weeks Time between R4 and R5: 20 weeks Time between R5 and R6: 6 months You always spend at least 3 weeks in P3, but can do it longer if you'd like! You're good as long as you've done it for 3 weeks at the very least.

07-31-2012, 12:11 AM	#48
MissKaylaPaige Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 86 Gallery: MissKaylaPaige	Did my weekly measurements and lost 8 total body inches this week. That's 19 inches total since the start. Woop! Got my first compliment today, my mother noticed I look thinner. Sure, it's just my mom but HEY I'll take it I also wanna just vent something here because I've kept it in so much and I shouldn't any longer.... I've been very heartbroken over a stupid man who loves to string me along to stroke his own ego. I know that he's no good for me and I'll find someone better and all that, but that knowledge alone doesn't help my heart feel better currently so I guess the only way to help is to vent it out. I spent 3 years being hopelessly fallen for him, but he never wanted to make me his girlfriend and I was an idiot and kept waiting and waiting and catering to everything he wanted hoping he'd see what a good catch I was and finally make me his own. I know. Stupid stupid stupid. I cut things off finally about a year ago, and he's kept contact with me on and off, wanting to see me and even once about 4 months ago saying he regretted not making me his girlfriend and wanted a chance to do things right and be in a relationship with me. I was wary so I told him I didn't quite wanna jump into anything because I wasn't sure if I could trust him. Instead of putting in the effort to show me he really wanted me, he immediately gave up and stopped contacting me, making it pretty obvious he wasn't being serious about really wanting a relationship. Well, 2 weeks ago he starts contacting me again, flirting, talking about old times and such, how he wished I was there to watch this certain show we always watched together etc. Last week I was browsing his facebook and noticed a message a friend of his posted about his NEW GIRLFRIEND. I was shocked. He deleted that message within an hour of it being posted. He clearly had been trying to hide her from me. Next time he texted me being flirty I told him he really shouldn't be thinking about me like this when he has a girlfriend. Completely caught red handed he writes back with "It's not like I actually WANT you, I'm just remembering old times is all". All this week he kept posting on his facebook "Oh my girlfriend is so amazing" and "oh she's so beautiful and wonderful" and surely trying to rub it in my face. He also kept finding reasons all week though to be flirty with me and I finally told him that he has to stop it, that I can't handle being strung along. Welp, he deleted me off his facebook, deleted me off of AIM, and basically dropped me off the face of the earth. Not what I expected, but I suppose it'll be for the best. Even though I'm still so hung up on him I know I don't wanna be with the kind of guy who still strings along other girls when he's still got a girlfriend who's totally in the dark about what he's really doing... Ugh. Just want my heart to stop hurting. He's absolutely sadistic.

07-31-2012, 03:58 AM	#49
ColleenMA66 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: MA Posts: 504 Gallery: ColleenMA66 Stats: 227/???/147ish I think? WOE: HCG/Hunger Scale WLA Start Date: December 1 2008	Kayla, you are way to pretty to be putting up with a jerk like that. You are right. There is someone better for you. What a tool.....it's funny how people get all pissed off when we don't give them what they want. It's a shame you didn't get to the delete button before he did...that would have gone up his butt sideways lol We all have that someone in our life that just can twist us right up. I saw mine a couple of months ago out of the blue (hadn't seen him in over 12 yrs) and I'm happy in a relationship and I was still a mess for 2 days!! And I don't want him back lol but it still messed me up. You'll get over this idiot. Congrats on your great losses btw!

07-31-2012, 05:47 AM	#50
Fat Eddie Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 99 Gallery: Fat Eddie Stats: 234.6/201.0/160 WOE: HcgRX/Day60/R1/2 short PI's Start Date: 07/09/12	First off Kayla you are so lucky to be rid of this dishonest worthless idiot. I really feel bad for his "new girlfriend" as she has no idea what a user he is. What I can tell by your posts is that you are intelligent, honest caring woman and you will find the right man in time. I'm glad you moved on, hopefully. Btw I know this is chick stuff but not all us straight traditional man are jerks That's my 2 cents. Now for my stupid mistake I committed this am. I was mixing up my 2nd batch of hcg for my next round of injections. So I put 1ml of bac water into the hcg vial and forgot to add the other 4ml and in short injected myself with a mega dose of hcg before I realized it. So the only thing I can do now is skip tommorrow's dose and hope for the best. What a dummy!!!!

07-31-2012, 06:40 AM	#54
LaraSuzz Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Tucson, Arizona Posts: 1,777 Gallery: LaraSuzz Stats: baby steps WOE: Dr. Atw Simeons Protocol Start Date: restart 3/5/2012 multiple rounds	No worries we've all made booboo's. I just think that if youre at the end of your round you are likely to feel icky if you dont dose tomorrow. Like if you were trying to stop at the the end of a round you will get a little weak and very hungry... no need for that. Chances are you wont even see a difference.

07-31-2012, 06:49 AM	#55
lisentume Junior LCF Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 45 Gallery: lisentume Stats: 180/180/145 WOE: hcg Start Date: July 28, 2012	Kayla, I was heartbroken after reading your post. We all make a mistake like that oonce in our lives so dont beat yourself up. You are SUCH a pretty girl. WOW!!! Congrats on your losses!! Day 2: lost 3.8 pounds!! I had to get on again to be sure! Woop woop!! So i had an apple and decaf coffee for breakfast, 8oz of chicken breast and lettuce for lunch with a mojito dressing (too the pak of mojito from walmart and added lime juice and a little apple cider vinegar, yum!) Snack was a gluten free rice cake and dinner was 6 oz of sirloin with asparagus. I think this time i will break up the chicken to 2 oz midmorning snack with 1/2 apple. It isxdefinitely mind over matter. LOTS LOTS of yummy decaf tea with stevea to curb my sweet tooth. Lots of water. Milk supply is great. Drank 3; cups of mothers milk tea yesterday. Really excited about what tomorrows losses will bring!!

07-31-2012, 07:29 AM	#57
Reddy Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: FL Posts: 869 Gallery: Reddy Stats: Start 181/ RI 164 / R2 156/ Cur- 155.2/ Goal 150 WOE: Low Carb / HCG Start Date: July 9th	Kayla I second what all the others said! It's probably better that he deleted you so you don't have to see his immature attempts to make you jealous! He's not worthy of you and like Lara said, when he comes running back - for a flirtatious ego boost or whatever DO NOT RESPOND!!! Hang in there! In my experience all it takes to get over a jerk like that is to find someone new to focus on!

07-31-2012, 09:19 AM	#60
dbunny Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: St Louis Posts: 1,297 Gallery: dbunny Stats: 5'10" WOE: Atkins ~ HCG	Yay Reddy! MissKaylaPaige~ Hugs to you.. Men can be so evil. Best to leave that one where he belongs: in the PAST! Back to my Saturday AM weight~ Note to self (and others) Cheating is NOT WORTH IT! I could be going into P3 by Thursday, had I not cheated. Instead, I have to wait until I get to my goal~ 2.5 pounds away. Boo for cheating!