P2 Simeon's Protocol Week of 7/23

[julieboolie]

Originally Posted by dawnyama

Well, folks. I am outta here! Had my last P2 meal for a bit. Hopefully I can do this next week or so on vacation pretty much according to P3 rules. If not, I will be back soon. I cannot wait til morning. I get to eat breakfast and have coffee, with as much cream as I want!!! I am so excited!!!

Y'all are doing so well and I commend you for doing this. This diet is not easy, great results but it is work. Congrats to you all!!! You are all losers--and of course on this forum that means super winners!!!!

I'm right behind you sister! Leave some cream for me! sat. Morning! I'm near the end of my capacity to eat cabbage. The asian stir fry meal is losing its appeal.

MKP-that's great losses! Be happy! You might want to at least get all your protein in each day. We're at the lowest level our bodies need on that protocol level.

Reddy-me too! Chocolate! Dh was eating choc coated almonds, could have smacked him cheerfully. I'm starting TOM any minute now. I hope that's why?

1 more VLCD ! Woohoo! I can do this. It's 1 day! Maybe I'll even be down a bit tomorrow? Thatd certainly be motivational!

[Reddy]

Originally Posted by dawnyama

Well, folks. I am outta here! Had my last P2 meal for a bit. Hopefully I can do this next week or so on vacation pretty much according to P3 rules. If not, I will be back soon. I cannot wait til morning. I get to eat breakfast and have coffee, with as much cream as I want!!! I am so excited!!!

Y'all are doing so well and I commend you for doing this. This diet is not easy, great results but it is work. Congrats to you all!!! You are all losers--and of course on this forum that means super winners!!!!

GOOD LUCK WITH P3 Dawn! See you over there in a week or so!

Have a wonderful vacation!

[dawnyama]

My dinner tonight---cottage cheese and 1/2 grapefruit. That is it! I am so tired of these veggies, I don't even want them. Argh!!!! I want my salads and non-protocol veggies back!!! I will be in NC on Sat and cannot wait to get out of this heat. I am going to be by the pool getting some much needed sun and using coconut oil for when I am out in the sun. Cannot wait for my usual beauty routine!!! Ahhh.....oils and lotions and creams oh my! I have already gone back to using my minty toothpaste and mouthwash. Ah the little things we miss while on P2 LOL.

[Berta48]

Originally Posted by manders

I went up 1.4 today because I got super emotional last night and -GASP- ate chicken wings and ice cream.

AAAAARGH. That said, I had some crazy bathroom business again today. I think I just finally rid myself completely of Saturday's binge. Goodness! I'm having a pretty clean day and then going to stabilize this weekend. I may do a steak day soon here. I will be on the road most of Sunday, doing a day trip up north to my family's cabin.

I realized this morning that I seem to stall every 10 pounds. I did at 202, then at 192, now at 182. I've already cut out soda which really helped, I'm just not sure what the heck else I can do now?! I eyeing up the JUDDD plan....

Hey girlfriend sticking to protocol would help Yes it's easier said than done.I have had to talk to myself all day long today.First day back on PH2

[Berta48]

Originally Posted by dawnyama

My dinner tonight---cottage cheese and 1/2 grapefruit. That is it! I am so tired of these veggies, I don't even want them. Argh!!!! I want my salads and non-protocol veggies back!!! I will be in NC on Sat and cannot wait to get out of this heat. I am going to be by the pool getting some much needed sun and using coconut oil for when I am out in the sun. Cannot wait for my usual beauty routine!!! Ahhh.....oils and lotions and creams oh my! I have already gone back to using my minty toothpaste and mouthwash. Ah the little things we miss while on P2 LOL.

That's the truth I was thinking of coconut flour pancakes tonight for some reason and here I didn't think of them once on my interuption.Crazy

Hope you have a wonderful vacation

[Fat Eddie]

Originally Posted by julieboolie

Your scale may need new batteries. That's a lot of variation!

Eddie-your menu looks great! Is this weight an old set point for you? We sometimes get stuck on those.

Berta-hallelujah ! Such great news! Soooo happy to hear this! Hope he continues to heal quickly. I'll keep praying .

Manders-you're probably wise to end your round. It's been a toughie and pretty rogue. LC for P3 will go better for you!

Jeanette-I've been thinking the same thing. The "forbidden" treats aren't as appealing anymore. Some GY or a ribeye? Yes please!

Plum-nooooooo! Bad timing . But not as big a gain as I could do! Hope the steak day helps.

Angela- yay! Good for you!!

I had a nice drop too! I'm down to 146.4-new all time low for me! so, deciding to end my round seems to be the right decision for me .

Dawn happy trails! Enjoy your vacation and P3.

Julie- what is set wirght?

Also what is STS? Thanks Eddie Such a newbie

[manders]

Originally Posted by Berta48

Hey girlfriend sticking to protocol would help Yes it's easier said than done.I have had to talk to myself all day long today.First day back on PH2

yep. I certainly wasn't an angel this round, in fact I was pretty bad. I haven't decided if I am going to do another. I just was to stabilize at 183-184 for a couple weeks and I'll be super happy. I really enjoyed Atkins, so I think that's what I might stick with.

[julieboolie]

Eddie-that was supposed to be set weight. Is this a weight you've been before for a while? Sorry! Stupid auto correct on my iPad. STS is stayed the same . You're catching on quick and doing great! Glad you're here w/ us .

[manders]

I've been thinking, and I really didn't follow strict protocol almost any day this round so I'm hoping this means that stabilizing won't really be an issue. I'm naturally a rule-breaker, so maybe HCG isn't for me lol

[Chouter]

I gained .1 today. Oh well. I am taking a break, an interruption. If I can get my head in the game, I will get back on P2 Sunday, and stay on it until my Alaskan cruise on Aug. 24. I'm sure I'll have to do it again when I get back, but I am really going to try not to gorge my way through Alaska!

See you next week!

[VTmommy]

hi ladies! I have been MIA lately too. Busy time of year for me at work, and weddings on back to back weekends have taken up much of my personal time.

I seem to still be going pretty strong, phew!! THis morning I weighed in at 202, with my start weight at 219, so I'm pretty pumped about that! Sunday will be day 21 and I'm really not sure what my plan is. I'm leaning toward a longer round. It seems in my reading that your first round is your most successfull one. I have a goal of 20lbs for this round....BUT the hubbie and I just booked a cruise with some friends for the first week in Sept. SO I'm thinking maybe I should do a 40 day round, to get the most bang out of my round?? It is so busy for me, that food is really not on my mind, which is good! That makes me think I should just capatilize on this round for as long as I can stand it.

And I don't know a darn thing about P3 anyhow! lol I guess my main question is would I still lose weight in P3? I think the goal of that phase is to not lose....Anybody? But P3 is basically low carb (which cheese, right? man, I miss cheese!!) and I know I can handle low carb.

TGIF all!!

[Fat Eddie]

Originally Posted by julieboolie

Eddie-that was supposed to be set weight. Is this a weight you've been before for a while? Sorry! Stupid auto correct on my iPad. STS is stayed the same . You're catching on quick and doing great! Glad you're here w/ us .

Oh okay. No Julie this is my first round which started July 9th. Anyway today I woke up to a 1.4 lb loss so that is great and I'm at 218.2. This is my 19th day including the two load days. Toatal loss is 16.4 lbs. I guess it was just a 3rd week thing for the past two days like you and others said. Thanks. This board really helps me. Eddie.

[Fat Eddie]

Need all your advise on my upcoming plan as I don't really have a plan, duh.

Here it goes: I originally planned on doing the 43 day plan but I miscounted my days. I belong to a motorcycle club (not a 1% club) anyway we are having our 25th annual bash on the weekened of 17-19. The problem is day 17 is my 39th day and I know in heart of hearts I will fall off the wagon. Although I can commit to not going completely nuts I will drink and eat a little of the non protoccol stuff.

So should I :
1) continue the protocol and and take the hit as Saturday will be day 40.

2) Stop at day 35, do the 3 days and then take the hit in P3.

I hope I explained right. Thanks for your thoughts. Fat Eddie

[Crazy PreK Teacher]

Originally Posted by Fat Eddie

Need all your advise on my upcoming plan as I don't really have a plan, duh.

Here it goes: I originally planned on doing the 43 day plan but I miscounted my days. I belong to a motorcycle club (not a 1% club) anyway we are having our 25th annual bash on the weekened of 17-19. The problem is day 17 is my 39th day and I know in heart of hearts I will fall off the wagon. Although I can commit to not going completely nuts I will drink and eat a little of the non protoccol stuff.

So should I :
1) continue the protocol and and take the hit as Saturday will be day 40.

2) Stop at day 35, do the 3 days and then take the hit in P3.

I hope I explained right. Thanks for your thoughts. Fat Eddie

Hi Eddie~

I'm thinking that possibly instead of anticipating "taking a hit", you could end your round earlier, like day 28, and be in P3 for a solid week or so. The first week of P3 is usually for most people the toughest week. It is for me, IMO. The second week seems a bit more stable. Eating protein & veggies will help. I'm not sure what foods will be available, but trying to stay away from starches/sugar is key. If you go cold turkey into P3 eating those things...it can cause disaster.

Also, if you feel like you need to continue after the bash, you can jump back on to HCG w/o loading if it is LESS than 14 days and count it as a planned interruption (PI).

HTH

[pendragginp]

Eddie, I would stop at day 35 (or a bit earlier to get more stabilized), do the 3 days, and go from there. If there's one thing people seem to try to remember around here it's that life happens; you fit it in as best you can and go on from there.

[pendragginp]

Oh, two minds!

[Fat Eddie]

What is a planned interuption, I mean technically?

[Crazy PreK Teacher]

Originally Posted by Fat Eddie

What is a planned interuption, I mean technically?

It is what Dr. Simeons instructs a patient to do if they are unable to stay on protocol. You pretty much try to eat P3 style...which is a little easier to do than strict protocol. Also...I think staying P3 style instead of going hog-wild on carbs, etc. helps to keep re-gain to a minimum.

When I get to a regular PC...I can paste the section of the DR's explanation for you...I'm on my phone right now.

[MemoryKeeper]

I may not get to start this week after all, I was devastated this morning and it's all so silly. A simple miscommunication. I thought I could go to the doctor, get my blood work to finish the last round, and start a new round - - - NO! They actually have to wait on the blood work to come back before I can start a new round.

Soooo all my well laid plans are RUINED. The blood work may come back tomorrow at 3:00, but most likely won't be until Monday. I just burst into tears.

I was hungry, eating a VLC/no fat/extremely low carb day yesterday (hoping to get that cholesterol number down). Felt dizzy, had a headache, and crying like a big baby.

They literally could not make an exception, and understanding the rules, I really do get that. I just wish I had communicated better because I could have easily come in last week for blood work.

Weigh in at 165 this morning. Now I need to figure out what to do. I had this whole weekend planned, menus, ladies party at church, breakfast of pancakes out, etc. I know I can put it off. I guess I have to see if they can get my blood work back tomorrow.

Just makes me so frustrated! You guys all know the success for this protocol is the planning! This could have been so easily fixed... trying not to cry! Weight is so emotional! Hubs just held me when I got home, I love that guy!

May the scales be kind! Hugs!

[julieboolie]

Originally Posted by Chouter

I gained .1 today. Oh well. I am taking a break, an interruption. If I can get my head in the game, I will get back on P2 Sunday, and stay on it until my Alaskan cruise on Aug. 24. I'm sure I'll have to do it again when I get back, but I am really going to try not to gorge my way through Alaska!

See you next week!

Ooh, cruise? Fun!! Those buffets make staying in control so hard!! Hope you feel up to P2 after the weekend. It's just hard, mentally, to really do P2 right. Otherwise it's a waste of time and sacrifice. Maybe just staying LC would be easier? You could stabilize in a few weeks and maybe try JUDDD? That might lend itself well to your cruise too. IMHO .

Originally Posted by VTmommy

hi ladies! I have been MIA lately too. Busy time of year for me at work, and weddings on back to back weekends have taken up much of my personal time.

I seem to still be going pretty strong, phew!! THis morning I weighed in at 202, with my start weight at 219, so I'm pretty pumped about that! Sunday will be day 21 and I'm really not sure what my plan is. I'm leaning toward a longer round. It seems in my reading that your first round is your most successfull one. I have a goal of 20lbs for this round....BUT the hubbie and I just booked a cruise with some friends for the first week in Sept. SO I'm thinking maybe I should do a 40 day round, to get the most bang out of my round?? It is so busy for me, that food is really not on my mind, which is good! That makes me think I should just capatilize on this round for as long as I can stand it.

And I don't know a darn thing about P3 anyhow! lol I guess my main question is would I still lose weight in P3? I think the goal of that phase is to not lose....Anybody? But P3 is basically low carb (which cheese, right? man, I miss cheese!!) and I know I can handle low carb.

TGIF all!!

I'd go as long as you can. You're 100% right. Your first round will be your best. If you're busy and can stick w/ P2, do it! You're doing great!

Originally Posted by Fat Eddie

Need all your advise on my upcoming plan as I don't really have a plan, duh.

Here it goes: I originally planned on doing the 43 day plan but I miscounted my days. I belong to a motorcycle club (not a 1% club) anyway we are having our 25th annual bash on the weekened of 17-19. The problem is day 17 is my 39th day and I know in heart of hearts I will fall off the wagon. Although I can commit to not going completely nuts I will drink and eat a little of the non protoccol stuff.

So should I :
1) continue the protocol and and take the hit as Saturday will be day 40.

2) Stop at day 35, do the 3 days and then take the hit in P3.

I hope I explained right. Thanks for your thoughts. Fat Eddie

If you're in P3 by that Sat., you have CDs to correct the damage the next day. The real problem w/ cheating in P3 is that CDs are most effective the very next day. If you can't correct that next day, the gains are much tougher to lose. I'd def end your round sooner and be in P3 when you "cheat". It will have a lesser impact on your metabolism and be easier to relose. And on the drop! Way to be patient! .

I'm doing fine. Had a lot of cabbage yesterday (lunch and dinner) and thought I'd pay for it today. But I STS which is just fine! I added half/half to my coffee this morning. I'm not supposed to , but I really wanted it .

[LaraSuzz]

Originally Posted by Lildrew

LARA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hi DREW!!! Hugs!!!

Originally Posted by Lildrew

I am down 1.4 this morning!

Awesome loss!!

Originally Posted by julieboolie

yay!

Hi Lara!

Hey Julie!!!!

Originally Posted by Fat Eddie

Need all your advise on my upcoming plan as I don't really have a plan, duh.
Here it goes: I originally planned on doing the 43 day plan but I miscounted my days. I belong to a motorcycle club (not a 1% club) anyway we are having our 25th annual bash on the weekened of 17-19. The problem is day 17 is my 39th day and I know in heart of hearts I will fall off the wagon. Although I can commit to not going completely nuts I will drink and eat a little of the non protoccol stuff.
So should I :
1) continue the protocol and and take the hit as Saturday will be day 40.
2) Stop at day 35, do the 3 days and then take the hit in P3.
I hope I explained right. Thanks for your thoughts. Fat Eddie

Originally Posted by Fat Eddie

What is a planned interuption, I mean technically?

If you do option one, you will spend the next 4-5 days paying for it with no losses until maybe the 5th day...
If you do option two you will gain back the weight really fast.

I would say that the lesser of the two evils would be to take a planned interruption, or go into P3 BUT; try your best to eat no sugar no starch, I'm sure you will have meat around, and chicken wings with no sugar or breading or steak.... and you could drink hard liquor instead of beer like rum or whiskey with diet coke.... its just really important to choose the right foods at that time. Beer is going to make you gain for sure even if its a low carb one like Michelob Ultra, but if you must drink beer then thats the best choice. You can do this, I just dont want to see you undo all your hard work and it rebounds very fast, I know this.

So, last night I met this guy off a dating site and I really thought he was attractive. We started talking about me doing the diet in August to loose 30 lbs because he invited me to the mountains(I know, a lil soon) and I said I wont be traveling anywhere for that month. Then he started asking me about the diet and I said I was very seasoned hcger and he said well were you really big? and started to ask me how much I weigh but I wouldnt say. He said well you look like you weigh 180 and you say you want to lose 30 so that would put you at 150 right? Now I'm 5'4 but solid muscle and at 230 I fit into size 14's. I know that I look decent but I want to look better, and that is my goal. I just thought to myself is this guy thinking that he shouldnt get involved with me because I might get bigger than I am now? and why would I want to hang around with someone who only thinks about how I look?
Thats kind of not cool, here I am working on me and hes sitting there wondering if he should bail. I think I need to be alone in this journey until I look so smoking hot that it doesnt matter because i love me.Lara

[Crazy PreK Teacher]

Originally Posted by LaraSuzz

Hi DREW!!! Hugs!!!

Awesome loss!!

Hey Julie!!!!




If you do option one, you will spend the next 4-5 days paying for it with no losses until maybe the 5th day...
If you do option two you will gain back the weight really fast.

I would say that the lesser of the two evils would be to take a planned interruption, or go into P3 BUT; try your best to eat no sugar no starch, I'm sure you will have meat around, and chicken wings with no sugar or breading or steak.... and you could drink hard liquor instead of beer like rum or whiskey with diet coke.... its just really important to choose the right foods at that time. Beer is going to make you gain for sure even if its a low carb one like Michelob Ultra, but if you must drink beer then thats the best choice. You can do this, I just dont want to see you undo all your hard work and it rebounds very fast, I know this.

So, last night I met this guy off a dating site and I really thought he was attractive. We started talking about me doing the diet in August to loose 30 lbs because he invited me to the mountains(I know, a lil soon) and I said I wont be traveling anywhere for that month. Then he started asking me about the diet and I said I was very seasoned hcger and he said well were you really big? and started to ask me how much I weigh but I wouldnt say. He said well you look like you weigh 180 and you say you want to lose 30 so that would put you at 150 right? Now I'm 5'4 but solid muscle and at 230 I fit into size 14's. I know that I look decent but I want to look better, and that is my goal. I just thought to myself is this guy thinking that he shouldnt get involved with me because I might get bigger than I am now? and why would I want to hang around with someone who only thinks about how I look?
Thats kind of not cool, here I am working on me and hes sitting there wondering if he should bail. I think I need to be alone in this journey until I look so smoking hot that it doesnt matter because i love me.Lara

Awwww..Lara. Don't you hate men sometimes?! I'd say...ditch him...if he's already starting w/ this crud...he's just looking for someone to use and look like a trophy on his arm

The right one will come along whether you're 130 or 230. I got the best type...I was 281 the day I married 17 years ago...have been 411 and now just hoping to be a healthy 175/180...very Blessed. I'm sure if I had landed the "best catch"...we wouldn't be together


Hang in there

[MemoryKeeper]

(((LaraSuzz))) what Angela says!

[Fat Eddie]

Thanks all. So I will end early (day36) and do a P3 type menu. Eat as best as I can which is possible and drink vodka with grapefruit juice or sparkling water. I can eat meat and veggies and then regroup on Sunday.

My next question: I know the protocol says to take a break of 3-6 weeks between rounds but I have a friend who lost 70lbs but doing 3 consecutive rounds(43days) with no stoppage and he told me to do that. This is why it is so confusing
I mean you have the DR.'s protocol and a real live example who contradict each other. Eddie.

[Berta48]

Originally Posted by manders

yep. I certainly wasn't an angel this round, in fact I was pretty bad. I haven't decided if I am going to do another. I just was to stabilize at 183-184 for a couple weeks and I'll be super happy. I really enjoyed Atkins, so I think that's what I might stick with.

Manders
I tried Atkins and couldn't stick with it Funny how people are different.But we all have to find what works for each of us. I hope you stay with us even if you are doing Atkins. I find I do best in PH2 cause I loose (when I don't go off protocol) I am one that wants to see those scales move even if the inches are coming off too. I want to see those numbers drop.Maybe I won't be so set on that once I get to a half way normal size I may stop way before I get to 150 but I will have to wait and see.Right now I just want out of my 200's

I enjoy PH3 &PH4 eating but love the drop of fat in PH2.

[Berta48]

Originally Posted by Fat Eddie

What is a planned interuption, I mean technically?

Hi Eddie
Everyone is trying to help you decide so I will add my 2cents in. I am on RND 2. I had a vacation coming and I did a 26 day round(including the 3day vlc) I take RXHCG. Then went to PH3 for 14days (two weeks.) Now I am back on PH2 for (I am hoping) 21 more days.( I had a vial that was not empty so I am going as long as it hold out.)

So you can do your mortorcycle gathering thingy and go back to PH2 so that you can keep losing. As you don't loose on PH3 or not suppose to anyway.PH4 you can loose (if you can). I really enjoy the planned interuption as it gives me a break from PH2 and I am ready to get back at losing by then too. Today was my first weigh in from my first day back on PH2 after my interuption and I am down 2 more lbs

[Berta48]

First VLCD yesterday down -2lbs this morning
DH is out of CCU doing much much better Probably bring him home sometime next week
So far this round I have went from 260.6 to 246.2 I am definetley happy and I am not finished yet
That really doesn't seem right because I lost 20lbs rnd 1.But I gained some back.. so I guess it must be 6.2 more to get to my 2nd mini goal

Originally Posted by manders

I've been thinking, and I really didn't follow strict protocol almost any day this round so I'm hoping this means that stabilizing won't really be an issue. I'm naturally a rule-breaker, so maybe HCG isn't for me lol

AWWW Manders
Look at how far HCG has gotten you. YOU CAN DO THIS!!! It gets rough I know.But just take an interutption for a couple weeks and then try again. Ultimately it's your decision but I know this time I AM NOT QUITTING as this is the only plan I have ever lost like this on. And I am telling you I have tried nearly every one out there!

[Berta48]

So, last night I met this guy off a dating site and I really thought he was attractive. We started talking about me doing the diet in August to loose 30 lbs because he invited me to the mountains(I know, a lil soon) and I said I wont be traveling anywhere for that month. Then he started asking me about the diet and I said I was very seasoned hcger and he said well were you really big? and started to ask me how much I weigh but I wouldnt say. He said well you look like you weigh 180 and you say you want to lose 30 so that would put you at 150 right? Now I'm 5'4 but solid muscle and at 230 I fit into size 14's. I know that I look decent but I want to look better, and that is my goal. I just thought to myself is this guy thinking that he shouldnt get involved with me because I might get bigger than I am now? and why would I want to hang around with someone who only thinks about how I look?
Thats kind of not cool, here I am working on me and hes sitting there wondering if he should bail. I think I need to be alone in this journey until I look so smoking hot that it doesnt matter because i love me.Lara[/quote]


Lara
I agree. If they don't love you just exactly like you are you do not need them in your life. There are alot of men out there that won't date a fat or over weight woman.My DH loved me just like I was and I was 222 when I met & married him.I want to get waaaay below that though!

Find someone who will love you and treat you like the woman you are and like you desrve! I would nip it in the bud NOW!

[Crazy PreK Teacher]

Originally Posted by Fat Eddie

Thanks all. So I will end early (day36) and do a P3 type menu. Eat as best as I can which is possible and drink vodka with grapefruit juice or sparkling water. I can eat meat and veggies and then regroup on Sunday.

My next question: I know the protocol says to take a break of 3-6 weeks between rounds but I have a friend who lost 70lbs but doing 3 consecutive rounds(43days) with no stoppage and he told me to do that. This is why it is so confusing
I mean you have the DR.'s protocol and a real live example who contradict each other. Eddie.

It is normally 3 weeks P3 & 3 weeks P4, then back to P1 & P2. Then after each round it is 3w/P3 and 6w/P4(+3 more for each round). What your friend did was called "cycling"...meaning NO P4, just doing 3 weeks P3, then back in to P2, right? It is NOT recommended, some people do not stabilize/maintain with this method, but we are here to support you in whatever you do.

HTH

[Crazy PreK Teacher]

Hey Berta~

I am sooooo happy for you!!!! Makes my heart happy that hubby is on the mend You are doing FABULOUS...you have managed to maintain, AND lose while LIFE got in your way a little bit...well...A LOT BIT Who can ask for more than that??!! YOU GO GIRL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!