P2 Simeon's Protocol Week of 7/9

[Crazy PreK Teacher]

Originally Posted by HappyChick

But, sticking to it is so worth it!! Down another pound- and I can feel the inches disappearing. It's weird, my 'main' measurements haven't changed too drastically yet- but, I can see little spots where fat deposits are releasing, like my inner-knee and just below my bra line- front and back. I'll take it!!

So, R1P2 VLCD10- (-6.8) That's about average protocol weight loss, yes??

Great job happychick. Everyone loses differently. I do notice when I'm not "losing", I can see inches lost. I barely lose that much in a month on other programs.

Keep up the good work!!!!

[Berta48]

Morning Everyone

Well today is my 1st P3 day 1. I Stayed the same this morning again so I am very happy maybe just maybe if I am real careful I will stabelize until I get back and can continue P2

I am going to do it right this time I looked at my HCG epxpiration date and it is good until 2015 So I do not have to be in a hurry. But I do want to get it off as soon as is reasonably possible. I think I was just rushing it and it didn't work!

Anyway I will chat with everyone when I return on the 20th.

You all KUTGW I am having my first bacon and eggs and tomatoe breakfast and coffee with WC.

Taryl have you found out if you are expecting yet? Just wondering with your tummy being so upset still. If you aren't I sure hope you get better soon

[temekayoung]

Thanks ladies i think in getting my groove!!
Taryl i hope you feel better!! :-)

[julieboolie]

Originally Posted by HappyChick

But, sticking to it is so worth it!! Down another pound- and I can feel the inches disappearing. It's weird, my 'main' measurements haven't changed too drastically yet- but, I can see little spots where fat deposits are releasing, like my inner-knee and just below my bra line- front and back. I'll take it!!

So, R1P2 VLCD10- (-6.8) That's about average protocol weight loss, yes??

Congrats! You're doing great! Yes, def. avg losses!

Originally Posted by temekayoung

Good morning ladies!! I lost 3.6 lbs this morning!!! :-P
That makes almost 12 lbs in two weeks. Woohoo!! I love this protocol. Thank you all for encouraging me to keep going. The only thing i did different was eat beef and crab the last two days. I was terrifed of eating beef, i thought it would be to heavy. I haven't even pooped in two days. Im so pumped.

Happy releases!!

Wow! Nice drop! I lose better on beef usually too, and just feel more satisfied.

Angela-thanks for sharing your pattern. That really encouraged me today! I'm up 0.2 today, and yesterday I STS, so I'm really hoping to drop some tomorrow. I also mimick you in noticing inch loss when the scale is stuck. Really hoping Simeon's explanation of the water retention while our bodies release fat is true .

Taryl-hope you're feeling better and can get more sleep. Are you a mapper? I'm not, but dh can power nap.

I'm up 0.2 today but feel and look smaller. I'm riding it out, feel good and in control. A bit disappointed, but certainly not stressing it or tempted to give up. Just hopeful the losses pick up again soon. I have at least 2 more weeks, but my losses aren't usually good week 2-3, so I was hoping I'd be further along on VLCD8. I'm switching the orange out (had this the last 2 days) and will add strawberries instead. I really hope that's the culprit.

[dawnyama]

Julie--we are twins today!! Up the same in my weight. But still 127 something. Good bye 128's!!!! WooHoo!! I don't know what is up, but I am going to stick to plan. I am not going to let my body think it can rule me. I am going to lose this weight--once and for all. I really do feel like I am losing inches so that is encouraging. My uniform pants are getting so baggy and I had to tighten up my belt a notch!!

Good going all around ladies!!! Keep up the good work!

[Arctic_Mama]

Originally Posted by Berta48

Morning Everyone

Well today is my 1st P3 day 1. I Stayed the same this morning again so I am very happy maybe just maybe if I am real careful I will stabelize until I get back and can continue P2

I am going to do it right this time I looked at my HCG epxpiration date and it is good until 2015 So I do not have to be in a hurry. But I do want to get it off as soon as is reasonably possible. I think I was just rushing it and it didn't work!

Anyway I will chat with everyone when I return on the 20th.

You all KUTGW I am having my first bacon and eggs and tomatoe breakfast and coffee with WC.

Taryl have you found out if you are expecting yet? Just wondering with your tummy being so upset still. If you aren't I sure hope you get better soon

Slow and steady win the race, definitely! Breakfast sounds excellent and just be sure to stop eating when you're satisfied and not overeat

As for pregnancy, I'm only 11 days past ovulation and while I'd normally test, because of the hCG in my system I couldn't be sure a positive would be strong enough to be anything but the hCG dose. I've decided I'm truly okay celebrating the next few insane days on protocol and don't need the food to enjoy it. I had a bit of a messed up mindset regarding that and have taken a step back - P2 shall commence, my period is due Sunday, I'll test if it doesn't show

[Arctic_Mama]

I'm back down to 164.8 and I have a new theory that I'd sort of spaced on - my period IS due Sunday. Whether I'm pregnant or not I'm still having hormonal swings this time in my cycle that would explain some bouncing. The good news is I am VISIBLY less jiggly in my torso now and my thighs have that loose, fat-on-its-way-out look to them. It always seems to get really loose and strange and then disappear, so even though the scale is bouncing the inches appear to be vacating the premises

This evening is our first shift in the booth at the fair (it's called the Bearpaw Festival) and today is frantic setup for it. Fortunately a friend is responsible for that and she'll only call me if she needs assistance, but knowing the busyness is finally upon me after months of planning is a little stressful. I'm following Robin's advice though, and letting myself FEEL the emotions without needing to run to food. I've been getting better and better at that, but now I'm consciously doing it and setting out to enjoy the people and process completely independent of food, except for water and the gum in my mouth.

I was a skeptic, but Weight Loss Apocalypse really is a gold mine of a book. Not just for hCG, but ANY diet. I maintain well enough, but this feels a bit like a piece I've been missing for ages, even though I as FIRST introduced to leptin and the hunger scale when I began my weight journey, I'd forgotten how useful it is. And so I've come full circle

[misslatte]

Poking my head in here.. think I'll be back to P2 tomorrow unless I see some amazing results on the scale in the morning.

I'm ready!

[Berta48]

Originally Posted by Arctic_Mama

I'm back down to 164.8 and I have a new theory that I'd sort of spaced on - my period IS due Sunday. Whether I'm pregnant or not I'm still having hormonal swings this time in my cycle that would explain some bouncing. The good news is I am VISIBLY less jiggly in my torso now and my thighs have that loose, fat-on-its-way-out look to them. It always seems to get really loose and strange and then disappear, so even though the scale is bouncing the inches appear to be vacating the premises

This evening is our first shift in the booth at the fair (it's called the Bearpaw Festival) and today is frantic setup for it. Fortunately a friend is responsible for that and she'll only call me if she needs assistance, but knowing the busyness is finally upon me after months of planning is a little stressful. I'm following Robin's advice though, and letting myself FEEL the emotions without needing to run to food. I've been getting better and better at that, but now I'm consciously doing it and setting out to enjoy the people and process completely independent of food, except for water and the gum in my mouth.

I was a skeptic, but Weight Loss Apocalypse really is a gold mine of a book. Not just for hCG, but ANY diet. I maintain well enough, but this feels a bit like a piece I've been missing for ages, even though I as FIRST introduced to leptin and the hunger scale when I began my weight journey, I'd forgotten how useful it is. And so I've come full circle

The more we practice self control the better we get at it. Little steps at a time then one day we will have conquored (spelling)that old enemy FOOD. We will begin to eat to live not live to eat.

[Arctic_Mama]

Originally Posted by misslatte

Poking my head in here.. think I'll be back to P2 tomorrow unless I see some amazing results on the scale in the morning.

I'm ready!

Didn't you just do P3 sweetie? What happened to P4? Or am I confusing when you ended your round?

[misslatte]

All of this talk about the book Weight-Loss Apocalypse - I can't seem to find it any any local libraries.. is it worth the $$ to buy? (I don't usually buy books)

[junkn]

Originally Posted by dawnyama

Julie--we are twins today!! Up the same in my weight. But still 127 something!

hi dawn. i'm 126.4 (gained .2 this morning), i started hhcg about 2 wks ago at 131. so my losses are slow and it's ok as long as i can keep losing. i am going to try to go longer than 40 days if i can.

i do find myself thinking a lot about food.. A LOT!! not that i'm really hungry either. just obsessed with whats my next meal is going to be. i made a whole head of savoy cabbage and ate half at one meal. hope its not too much

i'm taking the pellets 3-4 pellets 3x a day. i just ordered some drops to see if that will make a difference.

is it okay to mix pellets/drops during a round?

[misslatte]

Originally Posted by Arctic_Mama

Didn't you just do P3 sweetie? What happened to P4? Or am I confusing when you ended your round?

I'm on P3D9 today - what a MESS!!! I was out of town for the first 5 days of P3 and I'm dealing with a crazy fluctuation (went from LDW of 154 on the 1st to 172.5 on the 9th). I've been cycling clean and CDs since I got home and was at 167.5 this morning. The problem I think stemmed from being away from home/on vacation/off of my normal schedule and routine for the very first part of P3. Initially I planned to just play it by ear - if I stabilize nicely during/after vacation I will stay in P3. If it's a cluster (which it is) I would consider my 'P3' a planned interruption and just hop back to P2.

[dawnyama]

Originally Posted by junkn

hi dawn. i'm 126.4 (gained .2 this morning), i started hhcg about 2 wks ago at 131. so my losses are slow and it's ok as long as i can keep losing. i am going to try to go longer than 40 days if i can.

i do find myself thinking a lot about food.. A LOT!! not that i'm really hungry either. just obsessed with whats my next meal is going to be. i made a whole head of savoy cabbage and ate half at one meal. hope its not too much

i'm taking the pellets 3-4 pellets 3x a day. i just ordered some drops to see if that will make a difference.

is it okay to mix pellets/drops during a round?

So now we have triplets today. I think a whole head of cabbage is a lot!! I know that Shelby had to weigh her cabbage out because too much would cause her to gain. Be aware of that next time. I am really not hungry either, but just want to eat. I have to cook for my family (there are 6 of us) and temptation is everywhere If you are wanting to mix the pellets and drops I think that is OK. I have not done that but have heard of others doing it. I think some have pellets at work and the drops at home so they are less likely to forget taking them. I have also heard that some that take the pellets do better on a 3/2/3 schedule. Maybe you can try that dose? I would try that first and then go from there. Less is better when trying to find out what dose to use. Good luck!!!

[dawnyama]

Originally Posted by misslatte

All of this talk about the book Weight-Loss Apocalypse - I can't seem to find it any any local libraries.. is it worth the $$ to buy? (I don't usually buy books)

You can look at the videos first to see if you want to buy the book. Here is a link to a thread:

Weight-Loss Apocalypse

She has a lot of videos on youtube and a facebook page.

[Arctic_Mama]

Originally Posted by misslatte

I'm on P3D9 today - what a MESS!!! I was out of town for the first 5 days of P3 and I'm dealing with a crazy fluctuation (went from LDW of 154 on the 1st to 172.5 on the 9th). I've been cycling clean and CDs since I got home and was at 167.5 this morning. The problem I think stemmed from being away from home/on vacation/off of my normal schedule and routine for the very first part of P3. Initially I planned to just play it by ear - if I stabilize nicely during/after vacation I will stay in P3. If it's a cluster (which it is) I would consider my 'P3' a planned interruption and just hop back to P2.

Ah, I see. So you think you need to try stabilizing again with P2? Good luck! I'd do P2 for another week or two, minimum, if your weight has been got g that crazy on your interruption.

[shelbyla]

Originally Posted by Arctic_Mama

You DO need to post vacation picture. Get on it, lady! I need some motivation

Ok, I posted some this morning on my Low Carb Success Stories thread if you want to see... The bikini was the last day in Cancun so whatever weight I gained DURING the trip is ON in this pic. I LOVE maintenance! And I LOVE hCG!!!!!

[Arctic_Mama]

Originally Posted by misslatte

All of this talk about the book Weight-Loss Apocalypse - I can't seem to find it any any local libraries.. is it worth the $$ to buy? (I don't usually buy books)

I got it as a kindle book on amazon to read on my iPad, which was cheaper than the hardcover version. It is worth the money either way. I resisted for almost two months and what a silly thing to do - it is now in my top three of health and fitness books, pushing New Rules of Lifting for Women off the list

The other two that are amazingly useful and in the same vein are

-The Don't Go Hungry Diet by Amanda Sainsbury-Salis (one of the foremost researchers on leptin, her book is like Robin's without the hcg component and an incredible, sensible read) and

-The Perfect Health Diet by Paul and Shou-Ching Jaminet. That one is probably the most well researched and nutritionally balanced diet I have seen, with every key nutrient in the sweet spot between deficiency and toxicity, and very non inflammatory. I also has ketogenic fasts included, which is a useful tool.

I am doing my maintenance with the Perfect Health Diet by Robin and Amanda's satiety scale principles. It's like the perfect triad, but it took me three years to come upon all three resources. I started my journey with the Don't Go Hungry Diet and got away from it, which was stupid. But I became convinced I could lose faster with the calorie game. Unfortunately that was true, but it also enabled continuing my food and emotional issues and taught me to ignore my body's cues. Bad ju ju. Now I've come full circle thanks to Robin reminding me of what is crucial for maintenance. I wasn't ready to enact all that information a few years and 90-some odd pounds ago, but I am now

[Arctic_Mama]

Originally Posted by shelbyla

Ok, I posted some this morning on my Low Carb Success Stories thread if you want to see... The bikini was the last day in Cancun so whatever weight I gained DURING the trip is ON in this pic. I LOVE maintenance! And I LOVE hCG!!!!!

*scuttles over to see*

[Berta48]

Originally Posted by shelbyla

Ok, I posted some this morning on my Low Carb Success Stories thread if you want to see... The bikini was the last day in Cancun so whatever weight I gained DURING the trip is ON in this pic. I LOVE maintenance! And I LOVE hCG!!!!!

WOW you look amazing!!!! CONGRATULATIONS

[dawnyama]

I cannot find them either. Hopefully someone will post a link. Waiting...........ooooh, I see. That thread is in another forum. Tricky!!

[shelbyla]

http://www.lowcarbfriends.com/bbs/lo...-new-post.html

Oops this is Taryl's comment! Scroll up a smidge on the thread...

[dawnyama]

Love it Shelby. And you too girl. Job well done!!!

[Berta48]

Girls
I have a question. I am going to be doing PH3 for a week.I need to know how much is to much? I mean DR.S doesn't give a portion size so how do you know when you're eating to much? I don't want to gain.

I am going to try eating the meat and veggies, butter and cream sour cream etc. But should I eat till I am full or just eat a normal serving like 1/2c and 4oz of meat

I am open to suggestions!

I had my bacon today and burnt it then went to throw it in the trash.Started to go down the concrete steps (three of them) and slipped as I had spllied the grease and didn't realize it. My feet went flying out from under me and I landed directly on my back right in the middle of the steps hitting my back really hard. I thought I was going to passout. Then the skillet came down and hit me on my leg and burned it.Now I have blisters all over the front of my right leg.

Just great for starting my vacation. I think I am ok... but boy I wasn't sure at first.
I certainly am sore and my back really hurts but I will be ok. I think I will go to the Dr. before we leave.I'll check back and let you all know if I did any damage. I also jammed my left big toe into the closet now it feels sore too. OH the joys of getting old

[dawnyama]

Oh Berta sorry you had a rough morning. I would do a nice P3 if you are going to do an interruption. That means eating like you did on your last P3. Eat lots of meat, veggies and good fats. Just make sure you don't have any sugars or starches. You really shouldn't because of your diabetes anyway As to portion sizes, Simeons puts no limits on those. Eat til satisfied. But not too stuffed You have been there and don't want to do that again. Feel better soon.

[Arctic_Mama]

Yikes, be careful, Berta! No black eyes before vacation, yes?

For calories, eat to your hunger and use 1500-1800 as a guide. At your weight and age that may be a little low to just about right, but it is a good starting point. Eat more if you are still genuinely hungry and eat less if you have no hunger.

[Berta48]

Originally Posted by Arctic_Mama

Yikes, be careful, Berta! No black eyes before vacation, yes?

For calories, eat to your hunger and use 1500-1800 as a guide. At your weight and age that may be a little low to just about right, but it is a good starting point. Eat more if you are still genuinely hungry and eat less if you have no hunger.

Are baby snap peas on PH3? I am cooking them with some butter and cauliflower for tonight.Just wondering cause if they aren't DH can eat them.

I had 3 ribs out and 3 joints locked up and a sprained neck my toe was jammed.But Dr. fixed me up.I am still very very sore. BUT OK!

Originally Posted by dawnyama

Oh Berta sorry you had a rough morning. I would do a nice P3 if you are going to do an interruption. That means eating like you did on your last P3. Eat lots of meat, veggies and good fats. Just make sure you don't have any sugars or starches. You really shouldn't because of your diabetes anyway As to portion sizes, Simeons puts no limits on those. Eat til satisfied. But not too stuffed You have been there and don't want to do that again. Feel better soon.

Dawn
I am going to try my very bestWe will be eating in restaurants but chef salads w/ranch and steak and eggs etc should be ok. Maybe some soups. Will have to make sure they aren't thickened with flour though.

My last PH3 was not good I had to do so many CDS it was pathetic. But hopefully this time will be different

[dawnyama]

Ouch is right Berta Hope it heals soon. What a way to start a vacation. Lots of rest hon. Do you know how long you will be gone? Have you found a place to stay or will you wait til you get there?

[Berta48]

Originally Posted by dawnyama

Ouch is right Berta Hope it heals soon. What a way to start a vacation. Lots of rest hon. Do you know how long you will be gone? Have you found a place to stay or will you wait til you get there?

Thanks Dawn
Yes we have rented a room at the Marriott in Wichita .We will be home the
20th which then I will return to PH2 for awhile.

I have stayed the same for three days now 2lbs under my ldw of 254.8.So that means so far on this round I have lost seven lbs. As I was 260.6 upon starting.I am hoping to loose more when I get home.

I ask above but Taryl hasn't seen it yet... so do you know if baby snap peas are on PH3?I have some cooking in with butter and cauliflowerBUT if they aren't I will dig mine out for DH.

[dawnyama]

I don't know. I know that peas are not on P3--too starchy. But baby snap peas??? I have no idea!! Sorry.