P2 Simeon's Protocol Week of 7/2

[dbunny]

Hey all ~ VLCD1 for me.. I didn't weigh in till this morning.. let me just say I pretty much blew my last round. Gained almost all of it back in 3 weeks. I did load for 3 days, and I got my period yesterday, so maybe there is a few pounds of bloat in there in addition to load gain.

[Arctic_Mama]

Julie, I have at LEASt two weeks left, since I'm only on VLCD9 now, and I was actually originally going to make this a slightly longer round. We'll see, I'm not sure now.

[Arctic_Mama]

I was at 168.0 today, which is right on the nose of my LDW. This is good news, at least! I'm also not feeling hungry, I just need to control my midday cravings for weird things and stay strict. Next Saturday is going to be a nightmare - I am helping to coordinate a group of parade walkers and this involves slicing up one hundred Costco muffins, walking for three hours, and then sitting through a barbecue afterward. I may just die. But the plan is to pack my own food and ignore the yummies.

I may know if I am pregnant by then, too (I suspect, but no proof) and if I am, then I'll ditch my hcg and eat normally when I find out. If not, I'm committed to at least a 30 day round despite my issues. We'll see.

[HappyChick]

I woke up at 167.4 this morning! And, just out of curiosity, I wanted to see what my after-meal weight was. Well, I stepped on the scale after lunch and came in at 166.6. I did not expect that with the food, water, coffee in me!! How is that possible?! LOL.. I don't care, I'm just tickled to death and would be just as happy if that's what the scale said tomorrow morning, too.

[Arctic_Mama]

Great losses! Yay!

Did to have a potty break before weighing? That can sometimes make a big difference with me

[christyb]

Originally Posted by manders

Thanks guys. I will continue to take the drops. I'm VERY crampy and sore and bloated today. Not fun. I'm happy to report that I only took a lick of icing and did not have any cake. That was SO tough, because I could probably demolish an entire cake by myself!

I've been hitting the water really hard today and have somehow managed to not drink ANY soda. I'm really sick of being stuck in this 187-190 range, so I'm cutting it out in an effort to try and break this cycle.

Good for you! Keep going and it will be worth it!!

Originally Posted by dawnyama

OK!! I have good news and even better news!! Good news--I am below the stats to the left!! Now for the better news--I am down even more when I weighed myself later!! WooHoo!! I just counted on the calendar and in 11 days of doing the VLCD, I am down 9 lbs!!! This round is going better than I expected!!

So, from here on out I will be updating my numbers in my avi to reflect what the scale says. I am tickled today and will definitely be on plan today I want this to be IT for me and I can do it!!

Congratulations!!

Originally Posted by temekayoung

Good morning ladies!!!! I lost more inches but no pounds. I lost .02 lbs for 3 days during TOM and nothing the last two days. Today is VLCD 9 and i have only lost 8.2 lbs and 12 1/4 inches as of this morning. I would love to see the scale go down. I have never lost alot of inches and not have the scale move too. Also, have problems going to the bathroom for last 3 days. I feel nauseous.
Im happy for everyone that lost , keep up the good work!!!
For everyone that didn't im sure our time will come!!

ONLY 8.2 pounds in 9 days!?!? Silly girl, that is amazing!! You are waaay above average! You are rocking this so keep it up! Have you tried the Smooth Move tea everyone talks about? My doc recommends it too and so I used it when I got backed up and it worked really well. I don't, however, recommend doing it two days in a row. Took me a bit to far the other way, if you know what I mean!

Originally Posted by Arctic_Mama

I was at 168.0 today, which is right on the nose of my LDW. This is good news, at least! I'm also not feeling hungry, I just need to control my midday cravings for weird things and stay strict. Next Saturday is going to be a nightmare - I am helping to coordinate a group of parade walkers and this involves slicing up one hundred Costco muffins, walking for three hours, and then sitting through a barbecue afterward. I may just die. But the plan is to pack my own food and ignore the yummies.

I may know if I am pregnant by then, too (I suspect, but no proof) and if I am, then I'll ditch my hcg and eat normally when I find out. If not, I'm committed to at least a 30 day round despite my issues. We'll see.

So if you are pregnant, is taking hcg still safe? I don't know how that all works. Congratulations if you are!! If you are pregnant I would think that could have more to do with the Pica than anything. Maybe you should call your ob about that because you may be deficient in something.

I was down 1.4 today! 19.6 pounds! So I'm excited to hit 20 pounds! It's just a nice number, I think! I took a before picture when I started, so I thought I'd take one at 20 pounds lost to see if I can see a difference. I know when I've lost weight in the past it seems to take a while for it to really show cause I'm so big.

I've got lots of food prepped, so I'm just going through the motions now. I haven't cheated yet and I hope I can make it through without any. But I have been obsessing about potato chips almost the whole time. I mean, they are singing me songs from the pantry. UGH! If I let myself start I would eat the whole bag!

Have a great day everyone!

[Berta48]

Originally Posted by Arctic_Mama

I was at 168.0 today, which is right on the nose of my LDW. This is good news, at least! I'm also not feeling hungry, I just need to control my midday cravings for weird things and stay strict. Next Saturday is going to be a nightmare - I am helping to coordinate a group of parade walkers and this involves slicing up one hundred Costco muffins, walking for three hours, and then sitting through a barbecue afterward. I may just die. But the plan is to pack my own food and ignore the yummies.

I may know if I am pregnant by then, too (I suspect, but no proof) and if I am, then I'll ditch my hcg and eat normally when I find out. If not, I'm committed to at least a 30 day round despite my issues. We'll see.

OHHHH Taryl
I hope you are expecting that would be just awesome.... as I know you and your hubby want you to be!!!

[Crazy PreK Teacher]

Hey Berta

How are ya doing? I haven't talked to you in a while. Read that you were struggling...can you just jump back on? Sometimes a re-feed can help boost losses, kwim?

I'm still trudging along...just feeling kinda fatigued right now...no energy...need to take a break soon.. I'm stalled the last few days...in sun & heat all day Wed...always does that to me...but I usually lose well thereafter

TTYL...keep your chin up

[temekayoung]

Thanks everyone.!! I wanted to lose at least 35lbs in this round and i only have 34 VLCD left. Im sorry i am grateful i just want more ...i hope that makes sense. I think i wont weigh again for a couple of days. I will try to find the tea. Thanks for all the support and advice. I almost went to the fridge in frustration. I really feel like bingeing... :-(

[manders]

Hey all.

Julie - I'm alright today. My issue SORT OF resolved itself but I have my TOM now so I'm just all messed up anyways lol

I'm back down to 188.0 today. so only .4 above my lowest thus far. This is my second day without any soda. It's not as bad as I thought. I'm just replacing it all with water and I feel good.

My bf and I broke up today. I'm not really that sad, more just shocked. He sort of initiated it, which I didn't see coming, and then started acting like a complete psycho, so I was like okay this breakup is probably good.

[temekayoung]

Im not having a good day today. i feel so bad. I cheated and ate a baked potato with butter and sourcream. I had a headache and my job is stressing me. I feel soo ashamed of myself. Starting fresh tomorrow and im not weighing in for a couple of days.

[Star73]

Manders, I'm sorry to hear about your break up. If he has gone psycho then maybe it's for the best?

Tameka, tomorrow is a new day

[Crazy PreK Teacher]

Originally Posted by manders

Hey all.

Julie - I'm alright today. My issue SORT OF resolved itself but I have my TOM now so I'm just all messed up anyways lol

I'm back down to 188.0 today. so only .4 above my lowest thus far. This is my second day without any soda. It's not as bad as I thought. I'm just replacing it all with water and I feel good.

My bf and I broke up today. I'm not really that sad, more just shocked. He sort of initiated it, which I didn't see coming, and then started acting like a complete psycho, so I was like okay this breakup is probably good.

(((HUGS))) manders So sorry!!!

[Crazy PreK Teacher]

Originally Posted by temekayoung

Im not having a good day today. i feel so bad. I cheated and ate a baked potato with butter and sourcream. I had a headache and my job is stressing me. I feel soo ashamed of myself. Starting fresh tomorrow and im not weighing in for a couple of days.

Sorry about your struggles...get back on it! It will resolve itself. Remember...it may take a few days to a week...it usually does for me. Don't get discouraged...you have done awesome so far.

[manders]

Thanks ladies, I appreciate it. He's been acting pretty nuts lately so I feel quite relieved that it's all over.

Originally Posted by temekayoung

Im not having a good day today. i feel so bad. I cheated and ate a baked potato with butter and sourcream. I had a headache and my job is stressing me. I feel soo ashamed of myself. Starting fresh tomorrow and im not weighing in for a couple of days.

We've all had those days. When one of my pets got really sick 2 weeks ago, I caved and ate a bag of marshmallows, a HUGE bag of m&m's and a bag of salt and vinegar chips. I put him to sleep a few days later which was absolutely devastating, and the 2 days following, I ate nanaimo bars, frapps, 2 large pizzas, marshmallows and a huge bag of m&m's.

I turned that into my loading days, but I put on 7 pounds and it took me 8 days to get rid of it. A baked potato isn't so bad.

After a binge, I like to record how I feel on my iPhone and go back and read it later when I feel one coming on. It USUALLY stops me.

[Berta48]

Originally Posted by Crazy PreK Teacher

Hey Berta

How are ya doing? I haven't talked to you in a while. Read that you were struggling...can you just jump back on? Sometimes a re-feed can help boost losses, kwim?

I'm still trudging along...just feeling kinda fatigued right now...no energy...need to take a break soon.. I'm stalled the last few days...in sun & heat all day Wed...always does that to me...but I usually lose well thereafter

TTYL...keep your chin up

HI Angela
I am good. I am on PH2 still my LDD is Sunday that will be day 23(then 3vlcd) until the 20th I have had a wasted round this time due to my eating on 4th of July but I had made my mind up before I ever went I was going to eat and enjoy the evening..... so I am not complaining. I am sorta mad at myself because I was at my first mini goal of 250 and gained 4lbs on the 4th!I was down .4 today so will see what I am in the morning What does kwim & TTYL mean and what do you mean by refeed
I still haven't made up my mind if when I get home the 20th if I want to continue on PH2 for another couple weeks or go on to PH3 &4 for awhile a do JUDDD. But I will decide when I get back. The heat wears me out also it has been 105-114F here it is 11:00 PM and it is only 85F but sure feels hotter.
You certainly have been doing great with your losses.I am proud of you

Originally Posted by temekayoung

Im not having a good day today. i feel so bad. I cheated and ate a baked potato with butter and sourcream. I had a headache and my job is stressing me. I feel soo ashamed of myself. Starting fresh tomorrow and im not weighing in for a couple of days.

Tameaka
Don't let a baked potato get you down. None ever goes without evr cheating if they say they don't I don't believe them. I mean at least one bite or something.Dr.Says one salted almond is off plan.Just get back in there and continue on.

I cheated really bad on the 4th and gained 4 lbs because of it and I was at my first mini goal .But I am back on track now. I have at least seven more rounds to go so I really haven't been that worried about it this time for some reason. I can't quit as I bought 248.00 worth of RX HCG so I have to keep it up

We can do this.... we just have to keep at it.It isn't easy.But it isnt easy being fat either!And I have never had a plan work as well as this one does before and believe me I have been on almost all of them!

[dawnyama]

Originally Posted by manders

Thanks ladies, I appreciate it. He's been acting pretty nuts lately so I feel quite relieved that it's all over.



We've all had those days. When one of my pets got really sick 2 weeks ago, I caved and ate a bag of marshmallows, a HUGE bag of m&m's and a bag of salt and vinegar chips. I put him to sleep a few days later which was absolutely devastating, and the 2 days following, I ate nanaimo bars, frapps, 2 large pizzas, marshmallows and a huge bag of m&m's.

I turned that into my loading days, but I put on 7 pounds and it took me 8 days to get rid of it. A baked potato isn't so bad.

After a binge, I like to record how I feel on my iPhone and go back and read it later when I feel one coming on. It USUALLY stops me.

Sweetie--you have been through a lot Glad you turned a negative situation into a positive one though.

[dawnyama]

I am down again!! It was 0.4 on the scale, but I did weigh in super early. Looking forward to tomorrow's weigh in when I get to sleep in This round has been good to me. I got through an afternoon of chickfila (my kids wanted to eat there) and then Dunkin Donuts (it was next door). I had grilled chicken salad and then when the kids were eating donuts and ice cream I had coffee I am super excited that I resisted temptation because I was rewarded on the scale.

Happy Saturday!!! I am off to work.

[temekayoung]

Good morning ladies! Today is a new day, im up 2lbs and it's ok. You ladies made me realize its ok to have a bad day i have to push thru. I have a goal and i plan to reach it. You all have inspired me to work hard and not beat myself up. Thanks!!
Manders sorry about your boyfriend. He will definitely be sorry later!!!

[Star73]

yay! I'm down 2 more pounds!

That is even after the bad night I had the other night! That's seven pounds total

[mommy2boysaz]

manders~ Sorry to hear of your breakup. Life is so hard sometimes. But it sounds like you are keeping a great attitude about it. You will likely be better off in the end! Congrats on continuing to hang in there on this WOE while going through such stress!

Tameka~ Your losses sound wonderful, but I totally understand you feeling impatient for it to come off faster. I feel that way all the time. The critical thing is to not just throw in the towel when you feel frustrated. (I've done that a time or two or ten, too!) And, we can't beat ourselves up for the times when we fall off the wagon. I mean, we're all doing the best we can and sometimes life happens and we make a mistake. Or we just choose to eat a "normal" meal with our family or friends. I used to beat myself up terribly if I wasn't 100% perfect on a diet. Then, of course, I'd just binge and gain back everything I lost plus a few. I'm starting to finally learn that I'm not perfect, but I am working on improving myself! So, I'm constantly just moving in the gradual right direction. I saw someone else describe the weight loss as a ball bouncing down the stairs. I love that analogy!! It's soooo true! The weight can bounce up and down a little, due to our good days and our bad days, or just due to our normal body processes, but as long as it still goes down eventually, it's all good! You should be very proud of all you've done to improve yourself and keep going!

Dawn~ Congrats on the awesome losses!! That is wonderful! You were one of my inspirations when I began this and that continues!

Taryl~ Hope your wishes for your pregnancy are true! What a blessing! Are you doing the Rx HCG or the homeopathic? I'm not sure what effect that could have on an actual pregnancy? I am a Certified Nurse Midwife, but I'm new to learning about the type of hcg that we're all taking... I think I might be leery of taking it while trying to conceive (if you're actually trying!). Best wishes to you!! Congrats on your losses, also!

Star73~ Wonderful losses!! This plan really is amazing. I can't believe it's really possible to lose so much in such a short time. And, I really can't believe that I am capable of only consuming 500 calories per day! I never thought I'd be able to do that! HCG rocks!

Berta~ Congrats on your continued losses!! You have such a positive attitude, I'm sure you'll meet your goal!

As for me, I'm down 0.8 today, which surprised me following a not great day yesterday. Week 1 I lost 8.2 pounds. But, I was perfectly on plan the entire week! This is the end of week 2 and I've NOT done well this week. I am down a total of 8.0 as of today. I'm going to consider that a good thing, because as bad as I did this week, I should probably be up more than that.
Today is VLCD 16 for me and I plan to remain 100% on plan for at least the next 8 days (maybe longer?), before calling it a round and moving to P3. My results for this round will likely not be what I was hoping, due to my own mistakes. BUT, I am 8 pounds lighter than I was 2 weeks ago (8.8 from my highest loading weight), so that makes me happy. I refuse to give in to my frustration and allow stumbles to knock me down!

Having said all that, since I have eaten things I shouldn't have 3 out of 4 days this week, is just getting immediately back on track the best route for me to take? I've read about planned interruptions someplace. What are they? How does it work? Is that what I should call what I've done this week, and if so, should I be doing something else now? I'll go search the forum for more info on this, but would appreciate any info you all can offer. Thank you!!

[Star73]

mommy2, those cheat days can really set us back huh? I'm not doing that again. It takes too long to bounce back. Stay on track and you will do great! 8.2 pounds your first week is awesome! Now, just keep going

[Crazy PreK Teacher]

Originally Posted by Star73

mommy2, those cheat days can really set us back huh? I'm not doing that again. It takes too long to bounce back. Stay on track and you will do great! 8.2 pounds your first week is awesome! Now, just keep going

Yes...it's amazing that there is NO FORGIVENESS when it comes to cheating on HCG. I am a long time low-carber...and I could easily eat a small goodie once in a while and I knew I had to eat squeaky clean LC the remainder of the day, etc. and still lost okay. With a lot of weight to lose...LC just isn't fast enough for me right now...lol. I do love it, though. I've never really been to goal and maintenance, but LC is definitely the way I will maintain. The HCG does kick your butt, BUT the losses are out of this world!!!

[Crazy PreK Teacher]

Originally Posted by Berta48

HI Angela
I am good. I am on PH2 still my LDD is Sunday that will be day 23(then 3vlcd) until the 20th I have had a wasted round this time due to my eating on 4th of July but I had made my mind up before I ever went I was going to eat and enjoy the evening..... so I am not complaining. I am sorta mad at myself because I was at my first mini goal of 250 and gained 4lbs on the 4th!I was down .4 today so will see what I am in the morning What does kwim & TTYL mean and what do you mean by refeed
I still haven't made up my mind if when I get home the 20th if I want to continue on PH2 for another couple weeks or go on to PH3 &4 for awhile a do JUDDD. But I will decide when I get back. The heat wears me out also it has been 105-114F here it is 11:00 PM and it is only 85F but sure feels hotter.
You certainly have been doing great with your losses.I am proud of you

Hi Berta

Thank you so much for the encouragement

KWIM=know what I mean? and TTYL=talk to you later

And refeed...I prolly shoulda used a different word. After I sway off of protocol, it takes a few days to get back to losing, but once I do...I usually lose pretty well for a few days...like last week when I had slowed way down, then cheated w/ homemade blueberry cobbler & eating fried eggs...I stalled for a few days, then I lost 3-4 lbs. within a few days.

Even being up a few pounds...you still have done great! Get back on it! I would say to jump back on P2 after vacation, so you don't have to re-load...(my unfavorite part...lol) and worry about that gain with loading. That would be a PI (planned interruption). I know we lose big at first...but what is the difference? We load/gain...or jump back in & start losing (maybe not huge losses, but still losing).

Sooo...jump back in the saddle...don't be discouraged...you prolly needed the off-time to keep your sanity down the road

Remember...everything happens for a reason.

TTYL friend!!!

[Berta48]

Down 1.4 more today

Originally Posted by dawnyama

I am down again!! It was 0.4 on the scale, but I did weigh in super early. Looking forward to tomorrow's weigh in when I get to sleep in This round has been good to me. I got through an afternoon of chickfila (my kids wanted to eat there) and then Dunkin Donuts (it was next door). I had grilled chicken salad and then when the kids were eating donuts and ice cream I had coffee I am super excited that I resisted temptation because I was rewarded on the scale.

Happy Saturday!!! I am off to work.

You go girl.Keep it up there won't by anything left to you Aren't you happy you came back? You should be able to stop HCG soon and just do JUDDD. Can a person do JUDDD on PH3? I was thinking about trying that while in Wichita.But don't know how well I would be able to stay with the DD since I am in someone elses kitchen And I know we will eat out at least once a day. But I will see. Have a great week-end. My 23 day round is up tomorrow then my 3 vlcd then PH3 for at least a week. I have to wait and see how I feel when I get back and decide then if I am going back toPH2 or stay on PH3.

Originally Posted by temekayoung

Good morning ladies! Today is a new day, im up 2lbs and it's ok. You ladies made me realize its ok to have a bad day i have to push thru. I have a goal and i plan to reach it. You all have inspired me to work hard and not beat myself up. Thanks!!
Manders sorry about your boyfriend. He will definitely be sorry later!!!

HI Tameka
You hang in there gorlfirned you are dong so good.Please don't let a bad day stop you. Just get back on the next day or even next meal!!!! It works and we can do this

Originally Posted by Star73

yay! I'm down 2 more pounds!

That is even after the bad night I had the other night! That's seven pounds total

WHOOO HOOOO

Originally Posted by Crazy PreK Teacher

Hi Berta

Thank you so much for the encouragement

KWIM=know what I mean? and TTYL=talk to you later

And refeed...I prolly shoulda used a different word. After I sway off of protocol, it takes a few days to get back to losing, but once I do...I usually lose pretty well for a few days...like last week when I had slowed way down, then cheated w/ homemade blueberry cobbler & eating fried eggs...I stalled for a few days, then I lost 3-4 lbs. within a few days.

Even being up a few pounds...you still have done great! Get back on it! I would say to jump back on P2 after vacation, so you don't have to re-load...(my unfavorite part...lol) and worry about that gain with loading. That would be a PI (planned interruption). I know we lose big at first...but what is the difference? We load/gain...or jump back in & start losing (maybe not huge losses, but still losing).

Sooo...jump back in the saddle...don't be discouraged...you prolly needed the off-time to keep your sanity down the road

Remember...everything happens for a reason.

TTYL friend!!!

Thanks now I know what TTYL & KWIM means
I had alreayy planned to count this next week 13-20th as in interuption. SO I plan on PH2 starting the 20th again.I was told I didn't have to re-load again though.Are you certain about that? I usually loose on my re-load days or like this time only gained 1lb in both days and I ate like a horse!

I am hoping to at least go back to PH2 until this vial of RXHCG is used up because I just mixed it up 2 days ago and it is enough for 20 days.But I accidentally spilled some of it yesterday so now I don't really know how long it will last when I get back.

You are doing so good I am happy for you.I truly am If I didn't know I had so many more rounds to go I probably would be a bit more upset about my gains.But I have lost 2lbs of the 4 already(since the 4th over feed) and I still have six more vlcd I can do before vacation.So prayerfully I will at least have that back off. It does aggravate me when I think where I would have been klosing htis 2lbs if I had not gainded 4.But all I can do is learn from it. RIGHT?

TTYL Friend.I sure hope you have a wonderful week-end too!

[julieboolie]

Originally Posted by Arctic_Mama

I was at 168.0 today, which is right on the nose of my LDW. This is good news, at least! I'm also not feeling hungry, I just need to control my midday cravings for weird things and stay strict. Next Saturday is going to be a nightmare - I am helping to coordinate a group of parade walkers and this involves slicing up one hundred Costco muffins, walking for three hours, and then sitting through a barbecue afterward. I may just die. But the plan is to pack my own food and ignore the yummies.

I may know if I am pregnant by then, too (I suspect, but no proof) and if I am, then I'll ditch my hcg and eat normally when I find out. If not, I'm committed to at least a 30 day round despite my issues. We'll see.

That would be such a blessing!! I so hope that's the case. Get your rest in the meantime and don't overdo it!!

Originally Posted by manders

Hey all.

Julie - I'm alright today. My issue SORT OF resolved itself but I have my TOM now so I'm just all messed up anyways lol

I'm back down to 188.0 today. so only .4 above my lowest thus far. This is my second day without any soda. It's not as bad as I thought. I'm just replacing it all with water and I feel good.

My bf and I broke up today. I'm not really that sad, more just shocked. He sort of initiated it, which I didn't see coming, and then started acting like a complete psycho, so I was like okay this breakup is probably good.

Sounds like it's a good thing he took the initiative there!! Most likely a blessing in disguise. Once you adjust to the new situation I suspect you'll feel a great deal of relief and peace. And w. all this new weight loss you'll look even better and feel even more confident "out there". You're a beautiful girl and this time where you're following hcg and taking control of your diet and choices is a good time to celebrate your independence. Enjoy your freedom and take some time for you!

Originally Posted by temekayoung

Im not having a good day today. i feel so bad. I cheated and ate a baked potato with butter and sourcream. I had a headache and my job is stressing me. I feel soo ashamed of myself. Starting fresh tomorrow and im not weighing in for a couple of days.

I'm sorry for the cheat. We all sympathize w. the temptation. You can get right back on track and be strong. The weight setback is painful and will take a while to recover, but it can be done.

Berta- I'm glad you're back on track and owning your choices at the BBQ. You know yourself well and are doing great. You've got a great perspective on the big picture. It's not a sprint but a marathon. Keep fighting the good fight.
That said, I have to say that I don't agree w. you about cheating. I hope this doesn't offend you, I mean no offense. I have done several rounds 100% on plan. No cheating. It can definitely be done, and many of us do it that way. I've been reading Weight Loss Apocalypse and she makes many good points on the hormonal impact cheating on hcg has. Made me really rethink "cheats" and what could happen from it. I think her perspective on the hormonal and brain impact of hcg while following this plan is very intriguing. It makes me commit fully to the plan. It's a short time and even w. lots of temptation around me, my fear of messing myself up further by not sticking to it, keeps me committed. I just wanted to make sure we all know it CAN and SHOULD be followed 100% correctly. It's not to say the round is wasted or we're failures if we cheat. We're human. It's just to say that it can and should be done cleanly. It gives us the best losses and success at maintenance down the road.

Star-great losses!!

Mommy-I think the PI is when you're unable to stick to the protocol for the 40 days, and after 21 you stop dosing, transition to P3 for whatever social or interruption thing you have, then w.i 14 days transition back to P2 (w. dosing). You don't need to load for that period of time. That's my understanding. Many people have tried "cycling" too, which is doing a round of P2, doing 3 weeks (give of take) and then transitioning back to P2 w.o doing the recommended 3 weeks P3 + 3 wks of P4. There have been mixed reviews of the results of this. I tried "cycling" once myself. It was awful and I did't lose anything further. I was hungry, and miserable. That P3 (when I finally gave up the resumed P2) was a tough one and I regretted that wasted time. No real loss from it either. . I haven't done an interruption though. So, from my experience, I'd just do as long a round as you can stand, then do the stabilization phases as recommended. That break between rounds is as important as the losing phase is.

Hope you're all having a good weekend. I find it the hardest time w. my family looking for entertainment by dining out too much . It's tricky, but we can do it!! Stay strong and keep plugging away. This is a temporary sacrifice for all of us. "I can have that later" is a phrase that really helps me keep going.

[christyb]

I'm down another 1.4 pounds for 20.8!! Every day is kind of the same, but that's the way of P2 isn't it?

I do believe a round can be done without cheating. I haven't yet, and I don't plan to (of course no one plans to!). That said, I have absolutely no judgement for anyone who has because I've only gone this far by the skin of my teeth! I've been so close so many times. And I certainly didn't get this heavy by sticking well to things. But we've put so much money into this and I have to go report to my doctor once a week. I think that's keeping me honest!

I hope everyone has a great weekend and that your scales treat you nicely!

[Arctic_Mama]

Originally Posted by mommy2boysaz

Taryl~ Hope your wishes for your pregnancy are true! What a blessing! Are you doing the Rx HCG or the homeopathic? I'm not sure what effect that could have on an actual pregnancy? I am a Certified Nurse Midwife, but I'm new to learning about the type of hcg that we're all taking... I think I might be leery of taking it while trying to conceive (if you're actually trying!). Best wishes to you!! Congrats on your losses, also!


As for me, I'm down 0.8 today, which surprised me following a not great day yesterday. Week 1 I lost 8.2 pounds. But, I was perfectly on plan the entire week! This is the end of week 2 and I've NOT done well this week. I am down a total of 8.0 as of today. I'm going to consider that a good thing, because as bad as I did this week, I should probably be up more than that.
Today is VLCD 16 for me and I plan to remain 100% on plan for at least the next 8 days (maybe longer?), before calling it a round and moving to P3. My results for this round will likely not be what I was hoping, due to my own mistakes. BUT, I am 8 pounds lighter than I was 2 weeks ago (8.8 from my highest loading weight), so that makes me happy. I refuse to give in to my frustration and allow stumbles to knock me down!

Having said all that, since I have eaten things I shouldn't have 3 out of 4 days this week, is just getting immediately back on track the best route for me to take? I've read about planned interruptions someplace. What are they? How does it work? Is that what I should call what I've done this week, and if so, should I be doing something else now? I'll go search the forum for more info on this, but would appreciate any info you all can offer. Thank you!!

Oh no! Not trying to conceive during my round, though I was before. But my husband and I had some spontaneous fun during the early part of this round and I wasn't checking my calendar. Then I was quite surprised to feel myself ovulate just a few hours later! Between my own pretty good fertility, the timing of it, no birth control, and the fertility-boosting effects of hCG, it is entirely possible I could be pregnant.

RXhCG is no danger to a pregnancy - it is a pregnancy-supporting hormone. The only issue comes about with the toxins being released with the fat during the VLCD - those are no good for a baby. And a round shouldn't be continued with the discovery of a pregnancy for much longer due to the nutritional needs of mommy and baby. It isn't dangerous, per se, as we have more than enough stores to deal with early pregnancy without dietary supplementation, but Simeons advises women who discover pregnancy to end their hCG as soon as they find out and cautions that they may have a harder time getting back to their pre-pregnancy weighs because they did not lock in a set point before conceiving. Beyond that, there's no danger.

Hubby and I would welcome a baby, even if it meant ending this round early, so I'd be thrilled either way. But I would like to know sooner than later and the hCG dosing can mess with test results. Thus, unless I stop the hCG altogether to test, I will have to wait until AT LEAST 12 days after ovulation to get a positive that I could be reasonably sure wasn't from the rXhCG (I already know what a false positive from the protocol looks like, as opposed to an early positive from a baby - the former is very weak and almost invisible).

Thus, by next weekend I should be able to test. Worst case scenario I wait until my period is late and then test, by that time I would only need about five more days on the VLCD to finish out my round, anyway. So these are the things I am thinking about.


Onto you - do NOT do a planned interruption, I find they do more harm than good and most gals have an impossible time getting back on the VLCD after the break. Major mental struggles, if nothing else. They are, after twenty days on plan, taking 72 hours to transition off your VLCD and eating P3-style for a few days, until some event is over, before transitioning back onto the VLCD for the remainder of the round to lose more weight (but still not exceeding 40 days on P2). Given that planned interruptions occur when one has already done the minimum days on the protocol, it is almost always better just to call it a shorter round and do maintenance for awhile than try to go back on the VLCD for a few weeks. I wouldn't bother. Just try to stay on plan and then transition off when your desired weight or number of days have passed and don't mess with the dietary phases. A clean P2 and P3, by the book, are going to benefit you a lot more

[Arctic_Mama]

As for me, I'm at 167.4 today. I overdid it on warden farms stuff yesterday and while it wasn't a cheat, per se, it is off protocol and I'm going to keep it tighter in the future. I'm watching my artificial sweeteners like a hawk to see if they are what is driving my cravings/hunger right now, but it has improved.

This is a new low for this round, below my last dose weight for round two, and right where my lowest weight has been since I was 15. Everything below this is virgin territory! As much as I dislike P2 I must do it right - I just keep telling myself cheats are to an option. I haven't outright blown it but a nibble here or too much sf stuff there has crept in the past few days and I'm done with that. I hate the way I feel when I'm not in the P2 zone sweet spot, little rule bends don't do anything more than temporarily satisfy me. So despite the difficulties of this round I need to do it like I did the first two - right!

[dawnyama]

YOu can do this Taryl For me, I am stunned but thrilled that I am "in the zone". I resisted the Dunkin Donuts that my kids wanted yesterday (had a coffee and bought some coffee for at home instead ) and was rewarded today by being down. I would have loved to have even a bite of donut or spoonful of ice cream, but I didn't and my DH helped. I am so glad I have gotten into the right frame of mind. It is a bout time I am so tired of the re-dos I have been doing.

I really do wish you the best this next week. Hope that you find out soon enough if you are pregnant because it really could be the source of your difficult round this time around. Crazy cravings you have been having lately