P2 Simeon's Protocol Week of 7/2

[Arctic_Mama]

Originally Posted by manders

NOOOOO. I spoke too soon. My TOM came into town. Dang. I couldn't weigh myself yesterday, but I went up 1.5 lbs today. CRAP.

So do I continue taking the hHCG now? I'm so bloated, I think I'm retaining half of Lake Superior.

There's a huge birthday cake downstairs for someone. LAME!!!!! I'm feeling so discouraged.

HCG is the only thing that makes my periods weird. Late, early, light, heavy, spotting for weeks, missing completely... All of these are normal reactions to hCG.

As for hhCG, yes you can continue to take it on your period. It is rXhCG that is the one where skipping is advised and even then it isn't crucial.

I'm sorry about the cake - it stinks to not eat it, but you can have cake later, now is the time to drop epic amounts of weight and get compliments up the wazoo

[christyb]

Originally Posted by manders

NOOOOO. I spoke too soon. My TOM came into town. Dang. I couldn't weigh myself yesterday, but I went up 1.5 lbs today. CRAP.

So do I continue taking the hHCG now? I'm so bloated, I think I'm retaining half of Lake Superior.

There's a huge birthday cake downstairs for someone. LAME!!!!! I'm feeling so discouraged.

Don't be discouraged! You're doing great! The scale will move when TOM is done. Mine didn't move for 4 or 5 days and then yesterday I lost 2 pounds and today I lost 1. Just keep plugging away and it'll be worth it!

My doc had me continue the shots throughout my TOM. But I know that's not protocol. They don't have any of their patients stop.

[dawnyama]

Originally Posted by manders

NOOOOO. I spoke too soon. My TOM came into town. Dang. I couldn't weigh myself yesterday, but I went up 1.5 lbs today. CRAP.

So do I continue taking the hHCG now? I'm so bloated, I think I'm retaining half of Lake Superior.

There's a huge birthday cake downstairs for someone. LAME!!!!! I'm feeling so discouraged.

I would soooo continue on the hhcg. I did not dose through my TOM on my second round and did that ENTIRE round hungry it was the worst thing ever and I will NEVER do the hcg without my dose.

[dawnyama]

Originally Posted by temekayoung

Thanks ladies, everyone is always so encouraging. Im glad about the inches lost. Im going to weigh myself in the morning at my usual time,if i didnt lose can i do an apple day? Do you im still carrying water weight from TOM? Im so happy for everyone that lost!!

I bet if you weigh in at the usual time you will see that you are down. An apple day is to be used when you stall for 4 or 5 days. I have done them and they worked for me! But I did wait until I was 5 days at the same weight. I highly suggest them for when you are in a true stall.

[Star73]

I've done so bad today


I'm doing better tomorrow and here on out. Emotional eating got the best of me and I was so stupid.

Cheating isn't worth it and I'm feeling like a failure right now.

[dawnyama]

Originally Posted by Star73

I've done so bad today


I'm doing better tomorrow and here on out. Emotional eating got the best of me and I was so stupid.

Cheating isn't worth it and I'm feeling like a failure right now.

I have been there and done that. Happens to us all. You can do this!!!! Only thing is you have to get back on now. Do not have the attitude of tomorrow. I can eat a lot at night, thinking I can re-start tomorrow For me, it is best to have the change is attitude immediately.

[Star73]

Originally Posted by dawnyama

I have been there and done that. Happens to us all. You can do this!!!! Only thing is you have to get back on now. Do not have the attitude of tomorrow. I can eat a lot at night, thinking I can re-start tomorrow For me, it is best to have the change is attitude immediately.

Thank you Dawn

I'm going to drink lots of water and bake my chicken for the rest of the week and weekend tonight. I've been doing so good and feeling great, but something happened. It's all going to be ok. I'm getting back on track tomorrow.

[Desma]

Hey ladies. I can't seem to get back on track from my issues surrounding TOM. I'm so depressed about everything that has happened thus far so I'm going to cut my losses and start this HCG thing again next month around the 6th of Aug after a two day load. I wish you all good luck and will encourage everyone from the side lines.

Go Berta! Go Dawn! Go Martiangurl! Go C'Marie! Go Crazy PreK Teacher! Go Cocoapeanut! Go Gracie514! Go DRM!
Go Arctic Mama! Go Manders! Go Misslatte!

[christyb]

Originally Posted by Desma

Hey ladies. I can't seem to get back on track from my issues surrounding TOM. I'm so depressed about everything that has happened thus far so I'm going to cut my losses and start this HCG thing again next month around the 6th of Aug after a two day load. I wish you all good luck and will encourage everyone from the side lines.

Go Berta! Go Dawn! Go Martiangurl! Go C'Marie! Go Crazy PreK Teacher! Go Cocoapeanut! Go Gracie514! Go DRM!
Go Arctic Mama! Go Manders! Go Misslatte!

Don't quit! You can make this round work! At least go to P3 so you don't lose all your hard work!!

[Arctic_Mama]

That was quite a shout out, desma! I'm so sorry you've had issues sometimes a restart is what we need.

I'm barely hanging on by the skin of my teeth. I'm having such intense pica, today I am craving animal food. It's completely insane and I have no clue why this round is SO bad. I'm just praying I can keep on track through the rough times and that they'll smooth out on their own. I will consider transitioning off the hCG before cheating in any substantial way, but at this point I'm really mulling it. Ack! This is so mentally taxing I can't believe it, and I'm not even starving by growling tummy standards, but feeling very voracious for particular things. Bizarre.

I did get in a workout this afternoon and am doing fine with that right now. I'm a little tired, but not wiped out or completely drained. So that's an upside.

[mommy2boysaz]

Sorry to hear this round hasn't been what you hoped, Desma.

I honestly believe that there are some times in life when food/weight/diet has to take a backseat to higher priority issues. Not that health is not high on the list of priorities (at least it should be!), but life is full of lots of other issues, too. Maybe if you take a few weeks to prepare mentally and physically, you'll be able to accomplish a full, strong round next month. Hope so!

Star73- I'm in your boat right now! Have had 2 cheats in the past week, after a totally perfect first week of round 1... I'm angry with myself about it, but refuse to let it ruin the rest of the round. I've had a good day today and already have my lunch for tomorrow packed and ready to go. (Cottage cheese, celery, apple.) Hang in there and be kind to yourself. I'm sure you'd forgive someone else in the same situation, so forgive yourself and move on!

I am finally done with TOM, so even though I've made some mistakes, I'm looking forward to seeing how many pounds will be coming off over the next week! And, I just have to say~ All of you on this board are wonderful! I have been on other forums that have snide, rude, people posting, which just ruins the whole purpose of a "support" group. I have been spending a fair amount of time here and a bit on the JUDDD site, and have yet to come across anyone that wasn't kind, encouraging, and helpful to the newbies (myself included!). Kind of brings back my hope for humanity!!
I feel so blessed to have come across these forums.

BTW, Christy, my daughter LOVES your avatar! She's 8 and that's her favorite saying from the movie. In fact, she just ran to go find the Nemo DVD. LOL!

[julieboolie]

I worked out today too! Did pretty heavy weights, only 2sets instead of 3. Felt fine! But, it's VLCD1 . as long as you were already exercising b/4 P2 you'll be fine. And of course listen to your body, as Taryl said.

Meanders-I'd wait a few days to weigh. Let the hormones settle, hopefully the plumbing straightens itself out, then you'll have a good whoosh.

Mom-popcorn for dinner? movies are tricky! Sorry you have to go through all of the recovery!

I was hungry earlier, but could barely finish dinner?! crazy! I made yummy cabbage beef soup. Quite pleased that I'm full! Yeah! May this bode well for this round!

Not sure about weighing daily? I have in previous rounds but not 100% sure I'll do it this round. We'll see.

[Star73]

Originally Posted by Desma

Hey ladies. I can't seem to get back on track from my issues surrounding TOM. I'm so depressed about everything that has happened thus far so I'm going to cut my losses and start this HCG thing again next month around the 6th of Aug after a two day load. I wish you all good luck and will encourage everyone from the side lines.

Go Berta! Go Dawn! Go Martiangurl! Go C'Marie! Go Crazy PreK Teacher! Go Cocoapeanut! Go Gracie514! Go DRM!
Go Arctic Mama! Go Manders! Go Misslatte!

Originally Posted by Arctic_Mama

That was quite a shout out, desma! I'm so sorry you've had issues sometimes a restart is what we need.

I'm barely hanging on by the skin of my teeth. I'm having such intense pica, today I am craving animal food. It's completely insane and I have no clue why this round is SO bad. I'm just praying I can keep on track through the rough times and that they'll smooth out on their own. I will consider transitioning off the hCG before cheating in any substantial way, but at this point I'm really mulling it. Ack! This is so mentally taxing I can't believe it, and I'm not even starving by growling tummy standards, but feeling very voracious for particular things. Bizarre.

I did get in a workout this afternoon and am doing fine with that right now. I'm a little tired, but not wiped out or completely drained. So that's an upside.

What kind of animal food are you craving? I'm reading about Leptin reset and I wonder if that really works with cravings.

Originally Posted by mommy2boysaz

Sorry to hear this round hasn't been what you hoped, Desma.

I honestly believe that there are some times in life when food/weight/diet has to take a backseat to higher priority issues. Not that health is not high on the list of priorities (at least it should be!), but life is full of lots of other issues, too. Maybe if you take a few weeks to prepare mentally and physically, you'll be able to accomplish a full, strong round next month. Hope so!

Star73- I'm in your boat right now! Have had 2 cheats in the past week, after a totally perfect first week of round 1... I'm angry with myself about it, but refuse to let it ruin the rest of the round. I've had a good day today and already have my lunch for tomorrow packed and ready to go. (Cottage cheese, celery, apple.) Hang in there and be kind to yourself. I'm sure you'd forgive someone else in the same situation, so forgive yourself and move on!

I am finally done with TOM, so even though I've made some mistakes, I'm looking forward to seeing how many pounds will be coming off over the next week! And, I just have to say~ All of you on this board are wonderful! I have been on other forums that have snide, rude, people posting, which just ruins the whole purpose of a "support" group. I have been spending a fair amount of time here and a bit on the JUDDD site, and have yet to come across anyone that wasn't kind, encouraging, and helpful to the newbies (myself included!). Kind of brings back my hope for humanity!!
I feel so blessed to have come across these forums.

BTW, Christy, my daughter LOVES your avatar! She's 8 and that's her favorite saying from the movie. In fact, she just ran to go find the Nemo DVD. LOL!

Thank you so much! It helps to hear encouraging words

I agree that this group is really great!!

[manders]

Thanks guys. I will continue to take the drops. I'm VERY crampy and sore and bloated today. Not fun. I'm happy to report that I only took a lick of icing and did not have any cake. That was SO tough, because I could probably demolish an entire cake by myself!

I've been hitting the water really hard today and have somehow managed to not drink ANY soda. I'm really sick of being stuck in this 187-190 range, so I'm cutting it out in an effort to try and break this cycle.

[Star73]

I just wanna say that I'm really surprised how HCG has helped my joint pain. I have rheumatoid arthritis and while I read in P&I that it can help "rheumatism" (that's what they used to call things like RA and fibro and other things), I really didn't think it would cause so many things say they can help joint pain and they don't. I noticed for the first time the other day that I can walk around outside without foot pain! Do you know how happy that made me? I forgot what it was like to take a step without it feeling like I'm walking barefooted on stones

I sure hope this continues and if it does, I wish this was something I could take every day forever.

[Arctic_Mama]

Made it through dinner and feel fine now. It seems the middle of the afternoon is the worst for my cravings, and it may be that I need to strategically sip things to keep from going nuts. Though I didn't have major issues in previous rounds with them, I'm also thinking that cutting out diet Pepsi (I have one a day or so) might help, in case that is exacerbating cravings? It's worth a shot.

[mommy2boysaz]

Good Morning, everyone! TGIF!!!

I'm down 1.2 today, so my recovery from TOM and more importantly, my misdeeds, is beginning. My plan is to continue to make that number go down! I would LOVE to see 160s before I finish this round. It has been a couple of years since I've been there!

Have a great day, everyone. I'm off to work!

[Star73]

Originally Posted by mommy2boysaz

Good Morning, everyone! TGIF!!!

I'm down 1.2 today, so my recovery from TOM and more importantly, my misdeeds, is beginning. My plan is to continue to make that number go down! I would LOVE to see 160s before I finish this round. It has been a couple of years since I've been there!

Have a great day, everyone. I'm off to work!

yay! That's great!

[HappyChick]

Originally Posted by mommy2boysaz

Good Morning, everyone! TGIF!!!

I'm down 1.2 today, so my recovery from TOM and more importantly, my misdeeds, is beginning. My plan is to continue to make that number go down! I would LOVE to see 160s before I finish this round. It has been a couple of years since I've been there!

Have a great day, everyone. I'm off to work!

Fantastic!!

[dawnyama]

OK!! I have good news and even better news!! Good news--I am below the stats to the left!! Now for the better news--I am down even more when I weighed myself later!! WooHoo!! I just counted on the calendar and in 11 days of doing the VLCD, I am down 9 lbs!!! This round is going better than I expected!!

So, from here on out I will be updating my numbers in my avi to reflect what the scale says. I am tickled today and will definitely be on plan today I want this to be IT for me and I can do it!!

[dawnyama]

Originally Posted by manders

Thanks guys. I will continue to take the drops. I'm VERY crampy and sore and bloated today. Not fun. I'm happy to report that I only took a lick of icing and did not have any cake. That was SO tough, because I could probably demolish an entire cake by myself!

I've been hitting the water really hard today and have somehow managed to not drink ANY soda. I'm really sick of being stuck in this 187-190 range, so I'm cutting it out in an effort to try and break this cycle.

How long have you been stuck? I have done the apple days and love them they have really helped me get out of stalls and plateaus. The upside also---they are so simple to do. No thinking involved. If you are hungry--eat an apple. Feeling thirsty? Eat an apple. What could be easier???!!! I think you might want to consider it.

[dawnyama]

Originally Posted by Arctic_Mama

Made it through dinner and feel fine now. It seems the middle of the afternoon is the worst for my cravings, and it may be that I need to strategically sip things to keep from going nuts. Though I didn't have major issues in previous rounds with them, I'm also thinking that cutting out diet Pepsi (I have one a day or so) might help, in case that is exacerbating cravings? It's worth a shot.

I am sorry that this round is so rough for you. I hope you figure out what is giving you so much trouble. I know you and I know you wil figure it out. Just hope it is sooner rather than later.

[dawnyama]

Originally Posted by mommy2boysaz

Good Morning, everyone! TGIF!!!

I'm down 1.2 today, so my recovery from TOM and more importantly, my misdeeds, is beginning. My plan is to continue to make that number go down! I would LOVE to see 160s before I finish this round. It has been a couple of years since I've been there!

Have a great day, everyone. I'm off to work!

That is fantastic!!! So glad you are down Very motivating to see those numbers

Have a great Friday too!!

[dawnyama]

Originally Posted by Star73

I just wanna say that I'm really surprised how HCG has helped my joint pain. I have rheumatoid arthritis and while I read in P&I that it can help "rheumatism" (that's what they used to call things like RA and fibro and other things), I really didn't think it would cause so many things say they can help joint pain and they don't. I noticed for the first time the other day that I can walk around outside without foot pain! Do you know how happy that made me? I forgot what it was like to take a step without it feeling like I'm walking barefooted on stones

I sure hope this continues and if it does, I wish this was something I could take every day forever.

That is wonderful and a very good reason to stick to plan the benefits along with the weight loss are so worth doing the diet. I think that the JUDDD plan for life will take care of the inflammation too. You are on the right track

[Star73]

Originally Posted by dawnyama

OK!! I have good news and even better news!! Good news--I am below the stats to the left!! Now for the better news--I am down even more when I weighed myself later!! WooHoo!! I just counted on the calendar and in 11 days of doing the VLCD, I am down 9 lbs!!! This round is going better than I expected!!

So, from here on out I will be updating my numbers in my avi to reflect what the scale says. I am tickled today and will definitely be on plan today I want this to be IT for me and I can do it!!

Awesome!

Originally Posted by dawnyama

That is wonderful and a very good reason to stick to plan the benefits along with the weight loss are so worth doing the diet. I think that the JUDDD plan for life will take care of the inflammation too. You are on the right track

Thank you!!

I'm very excited about this. I have some flare up of my hands but I was eating too much beef. I cut back on that and feel better today. I'm really amazed at how my feet feel!

[Crazy PreK Teacher]

Good morning lovely ladies

I have been MIA since Tuesday. Super-busy & tired. I spent all day in the sun at a water park/car show (we have a restored 1970 Camaro)/fireworks show on the 4th, and of course I have been zapped w/ water retention ...happens every time if I spend lots of time in the heat--here in good ole' TX.

Yesterday, I was extremely tired & my lower back aches...along with all my daycare kiddos...they were tired, GRUMPY, and just did not get along w/ each other at all.

So...I am exactly the same weight since Tuesday, up/down/STS...I know eventually it will whoosh...I have been following protocol to a T. I have noticed that I am slimmer through the hips...that is my most problem area...seems to hardly shrink...even if I look like a skeleton on top. I am out of all my meats as of today...not sure if I will do eggs or do cottage cheese for lunch, I do have canned chicken & tuna I gotta get to the grocery store tonight after daycare is gone.

I haven't had TOM yet...it's either late by 5-6 days or it may skip...it's not the first time I've skipped before (even off of hHCG).

I think I am going to do a PI/re-feed on Tuesday for 4-5 days...been craving some fats...well, mainly peanut butter ...but I will not eat any...definitely gonna do P3 in a few weeks and I will get me some almond butter


Great job to all the losers

(((HUGS))) to all those who are struggling...hang in there...it will turn around.


Have a great Friday...weekend is coming

[temekayoung]

Good morning ladies!!!! I lost more inches but no pounds. I lost .02 lbs for 3 days during TOM and nothing the last two days. Today is VLCD 9 and i have only lost 8.2 lbs and 12 1/4 inches as of this morning. I would love to see the scale go down. I have never lost alot of inches and not have the scale move too. Also, have problems going to the bathroom for last 3 days. I feel nauseous.
Im happy for everyone that lost , keep up the good work!!!
For everyone that didn't im sure our time will come!!

[dawnyama]

Originally Posted by temekayoung

Good morning ladies!!!! I lost more inches but no pounds. I lost .02 lbs for 3 days during TOM and nothing the last two days. Today is VLCD 9 and i have only lost 8.2 lbs and 12 1/4 inches as of this morning. I would love to see the scale go down. I have never lost alot of inches and not have the scale move too. Also, have problems going to the bathroom for last 3 days. I feel nauseous.
Im happy for everyone that lost , keep up the good work!!!
For everyone that didn't im sure our time will come!!

Oh, goodness. You say you "only lost"----girl look at where you are now. If we say that in the main lobby, those folks would look at us like this You lost 8.2 in 9 days........that is incredible You have done more than the average you lose on P2---and that is WITH TOM In the house!!! Dr S says that women lose 0.5 lb per day--and you have exceeded that. You are doing well. Do NOT think you are NOT doing well.

You should be shouting from the rooftop "I lost 8.2 lbs in 9 days"!!!! What other diet can you say that about??? Well done my friend, well done

I have posted on here what I do to make things oakie doakie in the bathroom. I use Natural Calm (a magnesium supplement I can find in my vitamin shoppe) at night along with psyllium capsules at night. Then when I have my coffee in the morning--magic! My Dh also loves to use a tea we can find at Walmart called "Get Regular". It is by a company called Yogi. I can find that at my vitamin shoppe as well, but we go to walmart more frequently.

[julieboolie]

Dawn-Woohoo!! So happy for you!! Very exciting and gives me hope too!! WTG!! Keep it up girl!!

Mommy-glad you're in recovery mode now, back on track and the scale is going back down!! YEAH!

Star-that's great about the RA!! I too wish I could take hcg all the time. I just feel "better" on it. Not sure how else to describe it. But I suspect I have an untreated hormonal condition and maybe this little bit of hhcg helps balance me back out? I just generally feel "better". . Enjoy it while you're on it!! You're doing great. Back in control and down you go!!

Manders-how's today? Any better? I second Dawn's recommendation for magnesium. Most of us are deficient in it anyways, but you can make thing "happen" w. it too!!

Angela-you're wise to recognise it's water and it'll go. Yes, hit the store. Much easier w. the proper supplies in the house! You can do it!!

Temeka-if you're down that much and still backed up? You're way ahead of the game!! You can do it!!

Taryl-mid afternoon is my hard part too. I need to go "out" and either shop or run errands. Seems to make time go faster and I don't eat. I haven't had any DP this round so far (only day 2!!) but I'll add it when I feel like I need a "treat". Movies, sporting events, etc. I'm trying to drink water w. a bit of crystal light in them, which isn't ideal, but better than a whole packet or diet soda. Progress . Hope you have a good day and it's not so hard. Holding on by sheer willpower must be awful. How many more days do you have?

I'm down 3 from day 1. That's most of my load weight, which is nice. It's all recent gain, the next 10lbs will be just to get me back in my "window" from last round. I know it's weight I've regained, but I sincerely hope my body isn't too "attatched" to it . I'd like to drop back to my previous LDW and maybe a few lbs of wiggle room? We'll see. Truly hoping the metabollic reset I've invested in the past few months works toward easier maintenance this round. We'll see. 1 day at a time!!

[Berta48]

Originally Posted by dawnyama

OK!! I have good news and even better news!! Good news--I am below the stats to the left!! Now for the better news--I am down even more when I weighed myself later!! WooHoo!! I just counted on the calendar and in 11 days of doing the VLCD, I am down 9 lbs!!! This round is going better than I expected!!

So, from here on out I will be updating my numbers in my avi to reflect what the scale says. I am tickled today and will definitely be on plan today I want this to be IT for me and I can do it!!