P2 Simeon's Protocol Week of 7/2

[dawnyama]

Originally Posted by manders

Hellooo everyone!

I couldn't weigh myself this morning as the scale is in my parents room and my father was sick and sleeping in there and quite frankly I do NOT want his germs right now.

Still having issues BM-wise. Far far far farrrr TMI to share though. It's nothing I've ever experienced before so I may head into the Dr. if it keeps up.

I think I'm FINALLY adjusting to this phase in this round and have very little hunger and very little cravings. My TOM never started, so I'm looking at that as a blessing.

What issues are you having? I take Natural Calm (magnesium supplement) at night to help me go. And then I drink coffee first thing in the morning, then bam! Are you taking anything lke that for it? Have you tried the Smooth Move? We have a tea here called "Get Regular" that my DH is beginning to love. He doesn't rely on it for every time he goes, but when he uses it he feels better. The brand is Yogi and I have most recently found it in my walmart, before that it was vitamin shoppe (health food store). Btw, my TOM is late as well. I know it is to be expected on the hcg as I have been through this before. So happy for that as I want to continue losing

[junkn]

Originally Posted by dawnyama

Is this your menu every single day? Some find that cabbage is a common staller. I would switch that out with another veggie ASAP. Especially if you are snacking on it. I know that Shelby had to be meticulous with her consumption of cabbage. She found that if she didn't weigh it and really eat small portions she would gain from it. So be cautious of that veggies. It is not a good one to have in unlimited amounts. Find something else to snack on like chicken broth, tea, coffee. Not food, but a liquid. They seem to quelch hunger OK.

Funny thing about the coffee. I drink 3 cups every day--former Starbucks barista here ---because I love it and it fills me up between meals. I thought this round I would cut it back to only 1 or at most 2 cups. Did that and got tiny pitiful losses the very next day. So I have kept up my 3 cup a day addiciton Good thing about this plan, you can figure out pretty quick what works and what doesn't ! Good luck!!

what do you add to your coffee?

no, i just started the cabbage yesterday. was eating spinach before this.

do you think its too soon to do the apple day? i started hhcg last wednesday.

[temekayoung]

Hi ladies, i woke up at 4:30am this morning for work so i dont know if i lost weight or not. Im kinda disappointed. I did lose 10 1/4 inches though. Happy releases!!

[dawnyama]

Originally Posted by junkn

what do you add to your coffee?

no, i just started the cabbage yesterday. was eating spinach before this.

do you think its too soon to do the apple day? i started hhcg last wednesday.

I add as my sweetener NectaSweet. It is equivalent to 4 pkts of sweetener. I also add a bit of cream (shhh, don't tell anyone, that is not protocol and don't suggest anyone do this one!) and cocoa powder. I cannot understand why I lose well drinking it like this, but I do Like I said, I tried it without my 3 cups of coffee and don't lose as well. So I am keeping it!

So your veggie before the cabbage was spinach? I have heard that tomatoes are diuretic as well as romaine, so I try to have those a lot on protocol. When I include them I lose really really well. I also eat cucumbers.

Maybe it is not your veggies but your beef. Dr Simeons' warns of having too much beef on protocol. I would switch to another protein and see how that goes for you.

[dawnyama]

Originally Posted by temekayoung

Hi ladies, i woke up at 4:30am this morning for work so i dont know if i lost weight or not. Im kinda disappointed. I did lose 10 1/4 inches though. Happy releases!!

Yea, I get up early when I am working and believe that the time of day weigh in is so important. I hate it when that happens. You really should weigh in at the same time every day. Great inches lost

[Arctic_Mama]

Originally Posted by HappyChick

Can anyone point me to a discussion about protein, specifically concerning the number of grams and how they effect this protocol. I did a search on the subject but had no luck.

I'm asking because I want to use my protein powder for some meals and that seems to put my protein numbers higher than what I would get with 200grams (food weight) of lean protein meats- even though it's lower fat and carbs.

Any opinions on this??

The grams vary depending on the powder used, but you want about 100-120 calories worth of protein. With my Jay Robb that is one scoop.

[Arctic_Mama]

Originally Posted by chesapeakers

Arctic Mama-What are your thoughts on skipping one injection day per week for Rx hcg ( to ward of immunity)? I keep seeing conflicting infomation on this subject...

I did that in my first round and not in my second, had no issues either way. I do think skipping an injection allowed me to do a loner round more comfortably, and it didn't make a discernible difference in my comfort during the VLCD (no hunger, for example). I also took off the first three days of my period with no injections and felt fine, too, just as the protocol suggests.

[Arctic_Mama]

Originally Posted by temekayoung

Hi ladies, i woke up at 4:30am this morning for work so i dont know if i lost weight or not. Im kinda disappointed. I did lose 10 1/4 inches though. Happy releases!!

Great inch loss!

[Arctic_Mama]

Originally Posted by dawnyama

Yea, I get up early when I am working and believe that the time of day weigh in is so important. I hate it when that happens. You really should weigh in at the same time every day. Great inches lost

I can get up to a two pound difference if I weight earlier vs later in the morning, even with minimal potty output. I must be exhaling a whole lot of water or something

[dawnyama]

Originally Posted by Arctic_Mama

I can get up to a two pound difference if I weight earlier vs later in the morning, even with minimal potty output. I must be exhaling a whole lot of water or something

It is the time of day, period. For me anyway. On days I work I weigh in at 5:15AM. When I weigh in at 7AM on non-working days I am sooo much lighter. I found hat out a lot of rounds ago I would get up at 5AM to potty, take my homeopathic hcg and go back to rest til I had to get up at 7AM. Weighed at 5 and again at 7, with the only change being time as I don't take any liquids with my hcg. Would be down a bit from my 5 AM weigh in, at 7AM.

[Arctic_Mama]

Today is VLCD8 for me and I'm doing pretty good - down .8 pounds to 168.8 and only a smidge away from my LDW last round (168.0 was that target and I dropped slightly lower in maintaining, but for the most part spent P3 in the 168-170 range). It is tough to say if the weight loss is slowing down a smidge because I am on top of my previous set point or if it is just that my load weight is gone be so I am losing real, stored body fat as opposed to load fluff. But either way my losses have been about on track for me and in feeling decently enough.

I worked out yesterday and overdid it with chores, as I mentioned before on here, so I am a little sore today. I'm not sure if that is impacting my losses either, with water retention in my muscle.

[julieboolie]

Good morning ladies! First VLC day! I'm up to 163.4 today oh well, I loaded well I'm waiting to drink something. I'll try watered down black coffee but may go back to tea for P2. Need to make a pitcher of iced tea too. And prep some chili and chicken lettuce wraps. It's been a looooong time. Gotta get back into the swing of things!

Dawn-youre doing great! Keep plugging away!

Taryl-that's great too! I'd be happy to get back to my previous LDW in 8 days! I'm hoping to get there in 21!!!

I'm hoping to workout today, taking dd(12) to exercise w/me. Trying to keep it going t/o ts round. Off to get our day started!

[Berta48]

Originally Posted by julieboolie

Good morning ladies! First VLC day! I'm up to 163.4 today oh well, I loaded well I'm waiting to drink something. I'll try watered down black coffee but may go back to tea for P2. Need to make a pitcher of iced tea too. And prep some chili and chicken lettuce wraps. It's been a looooong time. Gotta get back into the swing of things!

Dawn-youre doing great! Keep plugging away!

Taryl-that's great too! I'd be happy to get back to my previous LDW in 8 days! I'm hoping to get there in 21!!!

I'm hoping to workout today, taking dd(12) to exercise w/me. Trying to keep it going t/o ts round. Off to get our day started!

Julie nice to have you with us!

Originally Posted by temekayoung

Hi ladies, i woke up at 4:30am this morning for work so i dont know if i lost weight or not. Im kinda disappointed. I did lose 10 1/4 inches though. Happy releases!!

Inches are great girl,awesome KUTGW Dawn is right too. If I get up and weigh early and then go back to bed when I get up later I weigh lessCrazy but true!

Originally Posted by Arctic_Mama

What I meant is that there is always some event, but is it worth losing a week or more of weight loss or not stabilizing for your round? The biggest issue with cheats is that they can blow stabilization out of the water, which I know is a concern for you . If you don't treat every round as needing complete dedication and perfection, it is a waste of time given how finicky the protocol is. Some plans have leeway for holidays, but not P2 of Simeon's Protocol.

It is your choice and body, but as a friend I have to caution that the setbacks from a cheat can be huge and not noticeable until well into P3, when you find yourself regaining and fluctuating all over the place. It doesn't happen to everyone, but it is frequent enough that breaking protocol for a holiday, especially without a proper planned interruption, is bad enough for me to recommend delaying the entire round to fit around a holiday rather than just having an off-plan meal in the middle of it. It's THAT big.

Don't feel like I'm shaming or attacking you, I just really want to see you succeed and not shoot yourself in the foot over one measly holiday It's your diet and your choice, I had to discover the hard way that an evening off plan, even a really enjoyable and mentally necessary one, caused me way more anguish down the road than the enjoyment it netted me at the time. It stunk

Thanks Taryl I appreciate your concern and you are absolutely right. But a bit late as it was last night and I ate and ate and ate. And my round is up Sun. for LD anyway,I had to mix up another vial this morning for tonight as today was day 20. I have decided when I get back from Wichita on the
20th I am going to continue PH2 until this vial is gone and then go to PH3 again.

I am wondering why we are to go 23 days dosing when the vial runs out at 20 days? Well anyway I was up today 254.4 but I fully expected it and deserve it! So back to PH2 and strict protocol until Sunday and then 3 VLC days afterwards.

[HappyChick]

Originally Posted by Arctic_Mama

The grams vary depending on the powder used, but you want about 100-120 calories worth of protein. With my Jay Robb that is one scoop.

Thank you!

So, next question is.. since I don't eat fruit (while dieting) and skip the melba toast b/c I don't like it- is it ok to substitute those calories with protein cals?? I'm thinking yes- but, am really trying to stay within the parameters of the protocol, especially for this first round.

[julieboolie]

Sorry! I didn't go back far enough to read b.4 I posted this morning!!

Berta-bummer on the gain, but sounds like you enjoyed your BBQ. At least you consciously chose it and didn't just go crazy and lose control. I think there is something to our control and choice that makes it better . You'll relose the weight and I'm sure you'll go on to several more successful rounds. I hope it doesn't interfere w. stabilization (as Taryl mentioned). It's hard enough to stabilize smaller. There have been people who call that type of thing a "refeed" and go on to losing better after their indulgence. I do hope that is the case for you.

Originally Posted by Arctic_Mama

As for me, I had a fine night, diet-wise. Unfortunately I exercised AND sealed a sandbox cover with varnish, and by halfway through the sealing I was shaking from fatigue. I was useless the rest of the evening, just totally wiped out and weak.

This is still proving to be an incredibly rough round for me, I'm having major cravings for minerals and actually ate two sheets of nori to satisfy some of the trace mineral issues (I consider it a supplement, honestly, and not off protocol for ten calories worth of seaweed to get some measly vitamin A and minerals). I'm actually experiencing issues similar to true pica, wanting to eat non-nutritive things due to deficiencies. So I'm thinking something is wonky with this round.

It may or may not be related to my dosing sublingually, but I'm going to compound my next vial of hCG for injections, anyway, just to eliminate that variable. That means I'm going to have to freeze half the syringes so they don't lose potency, but it's not the end of the world. I keep almost forgetting my nighttime dosing, anyway, so going back to what I am more comfortable with in terms of frequency and 'feeling' my doses seems to be the thing to do. It may be psychosomatic, or there may be a real issue with me not absorbing hCG well under my tongue, but I feel like I am lacking hCG on this round, despite meticulous mixing and dosing. And if I have the same issues, I'll know it is no error on my part but just a very rough round.

I know you're well educated and are taking good care of yourself, but are you taking vitamins t/o this round? I've found that I have to take my good raw multi, potassium, iron, magnesium and biotin. And I even have to apply mag oil to my ankles, legs and feet topically for cramps. I hope you're suspicion is correct and subling. dosing is the culprit!! I'm so sad you're not feeling great this round!! Hope it improves quickly!!

Originally Posted by HappyChick

Grabbing a spot here with you fine wonderful people! Hope you don't mind!!

I am so new to this.. but, so happy! In less than a week I have dipped below a set-point that I have not been able to touch in more than a year- maybe even two years of careful eating and regular exercise! hhCG is a little miracle, for reals!

Oooh, Weee- yesterday's pool party was difficult. I stayed with P2 foods but probably had too many of them and definitely broke protocol by mixing my veggies.. I was very relieved not to have a gain this morning. (A tiny bummed about not having a loss, tho.)

Should I do anything differently today other than strict protocol? I understand that CD's are not to be used in P2 except for extraordinary circumstances... appreciate any advice!

Question for anyone who is also hypothyroid and using hhCG: Does your formula contain Hypo/Pit/Thyroid at 6x 12x 30x 60x 200x ? If so, is it affecting the dosing requirements of your regular thyroid medications? I've noticed that my pulse is pretty high- even though my BP is low, as usual.

I too had trouble losing beyond a weight point (170-175 for me, and I'm 5'6" too). I'm also hypo, and need to go check my bottle. I'm doing the IM pellets and don't think they have that? It does have aminos in it, which I like WAY better than the drops. Feel 100% better on the pellets than in previous drops rounds. If your heart is racing, how're your temps? If they're high, you may want to back off a bit on your thyroid meds. Bummer. It's so hard to get those straight to begin with. I think Shelbyla adjusted hers during a round, and she's much better with all that than I am. Hope you're feeling well today!

Ok, made 4 servings of chicken "lettuce wraps" so that's a start. I've got GB and tomatoes in a pot for "chili". I need to go check out some recipes. I've got to use up GB and cabbage. Prob make it w. broth and seasonings. Maybe Italian? ideas welcome .

Off to slice and marinate some cucumbers. Not too hungry. Had some watered down black coffee w. truvia. Not bad. I may be able to keep that t.o this round. Woohoo!! Off to a good start. Almost noon, and no food yet!! I hope this bodes well

[julieboolie]

Originally Posted by HappyChick

Thank you!

So, next question is.. since I don't eat fruit (while dieting) and skip the melba toast b/c I don't like it- is it ok to substitute those calories with protein cals?? I'm thinking yes- but, am really trying to stay within the parameters of the protocol, especially for this first round.

I'm not a protocol worshipper, so take my advice w/ a grain of salt I'd def up that protein if you're skipping the fruit and bread. I skip the bread too, and do 4oz raw meats to make up for it. I do eat the fruit, but mostly apples or strawberries. I've found I lose better WITH the apple than w/o. Which is nice for me, since I love them .

[Arctic_Mama]

Julie, my first round P3/P4 was like that - I overate in P4 and didn't correct enough, so I had a lot of ground lost in the next round that I had to relose, which stunk. I was a lot more vigorous this time around.

For vitamins, I take potassium, magnesium, vitamin D, and a hair/skin/nails complex. I used to take a b complex, but with the hair/skin/nails I would have been overdosing on some fat soluble vitamins and didn't want to risk toxicity. So yeah, I'm even more surprised at feeling so terrible given that I supplement, mix, and dose carefully. Bah!

[Arctic_Mama]

Originally Posted by HappyChick

Thank you!

So, next question is.. since I don't eat fruit (while dieting) and skip the melba toast b/c I don't like it- is it ok to substitute those calories with protein cals?? I'm thinking yes- but, am really trying to stay within the parameters of the protocol, especially for this first round.

I wouldn't shift things around, myself, but I am a strict protocol girl. Simeos says anything may be omitted and nothing added, so if you don't eat your fruit and bread component then the additional calories can go toward the only protocol item with NO set serving size - veggies.

If you're wanting to go rogue and risk possible issues (many gals seem to do okay with minor tweak, so it is up to you!) then I'd move those calories to the meat as Julie suggests. But my first impulse is always to follow the rules, especially with something as finicky as the protocol.

[christyb]

Good afternoon! I was down 1 pound this morning, so I'm thrilled with that! 18 overall!

I'm on VLCD20. I've spent the past several hours cooking. I made a huge batch of tomato sauce, four servings of chili, portioned out a few pounds of chicken, marinated some chicken Adobo and cooked up a bunch of ground beef (grass-fed, very low fat). I'm about to make some Spanish Chicken Soup. This is a new recipe, so I hope it's good. I have to get more chicken in. I've been doing more beef than anything, which I know isn't recommended. But it has all be very lean and seems to be working ok. Even so, I know I need to mix it up more.

Julie, what recipe do you use for chicken lettuce wraps? Does anyone else have some chicken recipes that are staples? I really don't like plain grilled chicken that much without a decent side dish (oh how I miss potatoes!!). Vegetables are definitely a struggle for me. I've always hated them. I've been doing grilled onions to the point that they are grossing me out.

What do you guys like on your salad? Off protocol I don't really enjoy salad, but I eat it sometimes with ranch or french dressing, obviously not options!

I'm trying to get some new foods in here so I don't get too bored. I'm really hoping to do a long round!

Congrats to everyone on their losses!!

Christy

[HappyChick]

Originally Posted by julieboolie

I'm not a protocol worshipper, so take my advice w/ a grain of salt I'd def up that protein if you're skipping the fruit and bread. I skip the bread too, and do 4oz raw meats to make up for it. I do eat the fruit, but mostly apples or strawberries. I've found I lose better WITH the apple than w/o. Which is nice for me, since I love them .

I do love apples! Actually, I love all fruit- but, I've found that sugar, in any form, really packs it on me. I'm hoping that once I am at goal and stabilized, I'll begin to process and/or metabolize complex sugar(s) better. I really think I have a bit of insulin resistance- although that hasn't been confirmed in any meaningful way.

Arctic M said:
"I wouldn't shift things around, myself, but I am a strict protocol girl. Simeos says anything may be omitted and nothing added, so if you don't eat your fruit and bread component then the additional calories can go toward the only protocol item with NO set serving size - veggies."

Probably excellent advice!!

[Crazy1]

Hi Everyone,
Day 10 for me. Had a 3 day stall but finally started to drop pounds again. Down 9.5 pounds so far. Have my weigh in tomorrow so i will see if the inches are melting away. I feel really good and have lots of energy.

I guess I am a little rogue as I eat broccoli. I find that it keeps things moving so I eat it a least twice a week.

Another veg that I like is Daikon radish. Dr S. probably hadn't heard of it so I figure if red radishes are ok, this should be too. Only 22 calories for 100 grams. I peel it and dice it like a potato, then boil it in water with a chicken breast,garlic powder, onion powder, celery salt, pepper, and some grated ginger. I think it tastes like potato. The texture is the same too so it's agood replacement. It can be eaten raw as well but I have never tired it that way.

Hope you all have a great day!

[Arctic_Mama]

Daikon is fine! I use it in radish salads and love it with sugar free rice vinegar. I wouldn't do broccoli, as much as I love it, because there was a distinct reason he chose certain cruciferous veggies and not others, but that's just my thoughts. Brussel sprouts, too. Are another item that many think 'should' be on the protocol and isn't, yet it stalls many gals who have tried it.

[julieboolie]

Originally Posted by christyb

Good afternoon! I was down 1 pound this morning, so I'm thrilled with that! 18 overall!

I'm on VLCD20. I've spent the past several hours cooking. I made a huge batch of tomato sauce, four servings of chili, portioned out a few pounds of chicken, marinated some chicken Adobo and cooked up a bunch of ground beef (grass-fed, very low fat). I'm about to make some Spanish Chicken Soup. This is a new recipe, so I hope it's good. I have to get more chicken in. I've been doing more beef than anything, which I know isn't recommended. But it has all be very lean and seems to be working ok. Even so, I know I need to mix it up more.

Julie, what recipe do you use for chicken lettuce wraps? Does anyone else have some chicken recipes that are staples? I really don't like plain grilled chicken that much without a decent side dish (oh how I miss potatoes!!). Vegetables are definitely a struggle for me. I've always hated them. I've been doing grilled onions to the point that they are grossing me out.

What do you guys like on your salad? Off protocol I don't really enjoy salad, but I eat it sometimes with ranch or french dressing, obviously not options!

I'm trying to get some new foods in here so I don't get too bored. I'm really hoping to do a long round!

Congrats to everyone on their losses!!

Christy

Like you, I do best when I prepare multiple batches and have them ready to go!

I made this up my last round. I buy ground chicken breast (you can just dice up your chicken breast) and brown it in a frying pan w/ a little broth. I add Bragg's amino's, ground ginger, garlic, onion powder, a bit of sweetener (stevia or sweet-n-low) and dash of apple cider vinegar. I add a few minced onions and cook it all up. Then I'll use romaine or green lettuce leaves (washed and dried) as a "shell" and put the chicken mixture on top. Delicious!! When not following strict protocol (was pretty rogue in previous rounds), I add diced bell peppers too. It's pretty tasty and filling!

Happy-I'm a LCer for life. I'm insulin resisitant and very sensitive to quick gains w. carbs. Even w. all of that I've found that I still do better w. the apple I don't need to understand it, I guess, I just go w. it!! I also hope it'll make it easier for me to maintain on a higher carb level. I was able to stabilize w. GY, berries, apples, melon, and even added NSA froyo (frozen yogurt) in past rounds, which was very encouraging. I hope you do well too!!

Taryl-bummer You've got all those bases covered!! Hope the subcut will do the trick!!

I'm through "lunch" and looking forward to my apple Have a great day all!!

[christyb]

Originally Posted by Crazy1

Hi Everyone,
Day 10 for me. Had a 3 day stall but finally started to drop pounds again. Down 9.5 pounds so far. Have my weigh in tomorrow so i will see if the inches are melting away. I feel really good and have lots of energy.

I guess I am a little rogue as I eat broccoli. I find that it keeps things moving so I eat it a least twice a week.

Another veg that I like is Daikon radish. Dr S. probably hadn't heard of it so I figure if red radishes are ok, this should be too. Only 22 calories for 100 grams. I peel it and dice it like a potato, then boil it in water with a chicken breast,garlic powder, onion powder, celery salt, pepper, and some grated ginger. I think it tastes like potato. The texture is the same too so it's agood replacement. It can be eaten raw as well but I have never tired it that way.

Hope you all have a great day!

Did you say tastes like potato?! I'm in!! So what you described here, you eat it as a soup?

Originally Posted by julieboolie

Like you, I do best when I prepare multiple batches and have them ready to go!

I made this up my last round. I buy ground chicken breast (you can just dice up your chicken breast) and brown it in a frying pan w/ a little broth. I add Bragg's amino's, ground ginger, garlic, onion powder, a bit of sweetener (stevia or sweet-n-low) and dash of apple cider vinegar. I add a few minced onions and cook it all up. Then I'll use romaine or green lettuce leaves (washed and dried) as a "shell" and put the chicken mixture on top. Delicious!! When not following strict protocol (was pretty rogue in previous rounds), I add diced bell peppers too. It's pretty tasty and filling!

Happy-I'm a LCer for life. I'm insulin resisitant and very sensitive to quick gains w. carbs. Even w. all of that I've found that I still do better w. the apple I don't need to understand it, I guess, I just go w. it!! I also hope it'll make it easier for me to maintain on a higher carb level. I was able to stabilize w. GY, berries, apples, melon, and even added NSA froyo (frozen yogurt) in past rounds, which was very encouraging. I hope you do well too!!

Taryl-bummer You've got all those bases covered!! Hope the subcut will do the trick!!

I'm through "lunch" and looking forward to my apple Have a great day all!!

I will try your recipe! Thanks!!

[temekayoung]

Thanks ladies, everyone is always so encouraging. Im glad about the inches lost. Im going to weigh myself in the morning at my usual time,if i didnt lose can i do an apple day? Do you im still carrying water weight from TOM? Im so happy for everyone that lost!!

[manders]

NOOOOO. I spoke too soon. My TOM came into town. Dang. I couldn't weigh myself yesterday, but I went up 1.5 lbs today. CRAP.

So do I continue taking the hHCG now? I'm so bloated, I think I'm retaining half of Lake Superior.

There's a huge birthday cake downstairs for someone. LAME!!!!! I'm feeling so discouraged.

[temekayoung]

Oh and i started exercising yesterday 30 mins on the elliptical. Do you think that's too much?

[temekayoung]

Don't be discouraged Manders you are soo close!!!!! My protocol says dont take hhcg on TOM. You can make it thru this with no problem. :-P

[mommy2boysaz]

Took my kids to the movies last evening and subsituted popcorn and Mt. Dew for my supper...

So, predictably, I'm up 2.4 today...

It's been a clean day today, with lots of water. My appetite is up today, probably from my faux pas of yesterday, I guess. I'm roughly half way through this round. I WILL finish strong with NO more slips!

Thank you all for your inspiring posts! It really does help my resolve when I get on here. Need to spend more time here!

[Arctic_Mama]

Originally Posted by temekayoung

Thanks ladies, everyone is always so encouraging. Im glad about the inches lost. Im going to weigh myself in the morning at my usual time,if i didnt lose can i do an apple day? Do you im still carrying water weight from TOM? Im so happy for everyone that lost!!

Apple days are only for long stalls, we're talking at LEAST four days of no losses. Better to not weigh in for a few days and stay perfectly on plan - then you're almost guaranteed a pleasant loss. Scale watching in P2 is unnecessary, honestly. I only weigh daily because I have over three years of data and am used to tracking. But the best thing to do in P2 is eat on plan, listen to your body regarding rest, and then see what your clothes are doing.

Regarding your workout, if you felt good after the elliptical it isn't too much. Our energy and stamina are poor in P2, so it is easy to overdo it, but I promise you'll be able to feel, very quickly, when you've crossed that line. I did it yesterday and was out of commission for four hours in the evening. Even lifting my arm to hold up a cup felt tiring